Tonrac Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 @AlphaMagnum: with this clevo OC bios (on my P150HM) no need to overheat to make the card throttle ... don't know exactly what happen (maybe some weakness in the power circuitry of P150HM ...)Maybe Killerinstinct could confirmed this result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaker Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I take it that flashing the Dell vbios on the clevo is a bad idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerinstinct Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Im getting better results with the new vbios however i am seeing throttling but not constant throttling, it goes fluctates every second from full power 3d to throttle an then goes back up to full 3d then back, very quickly @svl7 could you mod it so that the voltage is 1.037/1.012 and the default core is 900/2200 like the msi vbios thx :Dalso nice job on the clevo vbios Edit: also it didn't fluctuate at the stock speeds , so it could be the unlocked portion that is messing it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonrac Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 @Meaker : You are right ... it don't kill the card but windows decline to boot ... in fact it boot, but i think when windows load the driver the card become unstable and the display become crazy. So the only solution is to flash back to the backup on dos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldor Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Its not a bad idea to flash the dell bios on your clevo card, its a great idea if you like to brick your card , so its a no go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Im using default A03.M18xR2Any ideas? Thank you.Yeah, overclocking per software isn't supported by your BIOS, Dell needs to fix this.Im getting better results with the new vbios however i am seeing throttling but not constant throttling, it goes fluctates every second from full power 3d to throttle an then goes back up to full 3d then back, very quickly @svl7 could you mod it so that the voltage is 1.037/1.012 and the default core is 900/2200 like the msi vbios thx :Dalso nice job on the clevo vbios Edit: also it didn't fluctuate at the stock speeds , so it could be the unlocked portion that is messing it upWell, you mean the Clevo vbios at 900? This won't work, I'm pretty sure, did a lot of mods with the Clevo and Dell vbios, and all have issues at higher clocks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Maroto Madrid Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yeah, overclocking per software isn't supported by your BIOS, Dell needs to fix this.Well, you mean the Clevo vbios at 900? This won't work, I'm pretty sure, did a lot of mods with the Clevo and Dell vbios, and all have issues at higher clocks...I will not impose, but could you do a couple of vbios with defferent clocks if is not a big problem? Something like low OCmid OCHigh OCExtreme OCJust for the meanwhile (I think it's going to take time to see the BIOS from Dell that fix this issue.)In NBR one guy claims that he can overclock his M18X R2 SLI 680GTXM also he provided test and results. I don't understand how can be this possible. Thank you for your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi3x Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 When using the OC OV in my dell 680, I get throttle without touching anything. Went back to the 850-889 vbios version. The best score without throttle was 859 and 1100 memory. Anything above shows throttling in 3dmark 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldaren Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 ^ What he said. I've also noticed heavy throttling with anything above 900 core in games as well. Most heavily in Metro 2033. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder Brian Posted August 30, 2012 Founder Share Posted August 30, 2012 Every brand of card will throttle except MSI/Clevo in single card configuration. The reason is that the single Clevo/MSI cards can utilize an ES leaked version of MSI's 680M bios that doesn't have the throttling built into the vbios. Unfortunately, this ES (FD) bios doesn't work for Dell cards nor does it work in SLI configuration for Clevo/MSI cards. So when Clevo/Dell are both in SLI configuration, both are at the mercy of throttling with the retail vbios releases. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widezu69 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 That's pretty bad news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder Brian Posted August 30, 2012 Founder Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yeah its pretty disappointing, I'm glad I didn't waste $700+ on another 680M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yeah, it seems to be just as Brian says... unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long2905 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 so either extreme OC or SLI. And with that SLI and Crossfire of this generation will be neck on neck with each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pau1ow Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 IMO budget wise, get a 4GB 680M if you want to run a single card setup or a xfire 7970M for bi-gpu system ! SLi680M is a bit pricey to my liking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaker Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 MSI usually removes their SLI connector from their cards so i'm not surprised it does not support SLi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi3x Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Hey, which version OCed (not OV) is for the clevo p170em? I need the OCed version, but there are many versions dunno which one to pick. This is from a friend who wants to try it.EDITED OUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder Michael Posted August 31, 2012 Founder Share Posted August 31, 2012 Hey, which version OCed (not OV) is for the clevo p170em? I need the OCed version, but there are many versions dunno which one to pick. This is from a friend who wants to try it.Here is also the noob tutorial on how to flash a vbios, there may be others like I was, searching for scattered info, so here it goes:1....Please do not copy content directly from NBR and post it here.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric_chook Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Every brand of card will throttle except MSI/Clevo in single card configuration. The reason is that the single Clevo/MSI cards can utilize an ES leaked version of MSI's 680M bios that doesn't have the throttling built into the vbios. Unfortunately, this ES (FD) bios doesn't work for Dell cards nor does it work in SLI configuration for Clevo/MSI cards. So when Clevo/Dell are both in SLI configuration, both are at the mercy of throttling with the retail vbios releases.Any Idea where one can obtain the FD vBIOS?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonrac Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 you can find the vbios at NBR or i can post a download link here if the moderator are Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric_chook Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 you can find the vbios at NBR or i can post a download link here if the moderator are OkIs it the one that Ken Lee from Gentech dumped or is it a different one.I have tried Ken's vBIOS and its OK, its just that the core speed is 771MHz.I am after a completely stock 680m(ES) FD vBIOS.I believe the one from ken was a dump from a retail GT70 so its OEM not ES.If you are allowed to link to the FD vBIOS, that would be awesome and thanks for your help.Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonrac Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 No it's not the bios that you already have but it's not a stock 680m(ES) FD vbios.Saltius is based on this es vbios but with a default clock of 900/2200 and a 3d voltage of 1.012 v vs 0.987 default voltage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 You're better of with a newer vbios unless you want to overclock. There's no reason to use the old one at stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widezu69 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I made a thread here with a guide to using your GTX 680m wisely:http://forum.techinferno.com/general-notebook-discussions/2062-using-your-4gb-gtx-680m-its-safest-full-potential.htmlDon't get threads mixed up though, all Kepler vbios discussions should still stay here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi3x Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 @svl7 - would it be too much to ask if you could post in your vbioses post, the Dell 680m vbios with 950-989 boost? I've seen your work in a benchmarks thread on the other forum, and it's awesome, and it seems it cannot be aquired with sofware using the 850-898 vbios. Had the stock voltage, as I could see. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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