[BENCHMARKS] The OFFICIAL Thread

[Legion 22]

21 minutes ago, D2ultima said:

Try using throttlestop alone to fiddle and setting current limit to 256A (I've seen some notebooks have 255A as highest; this may work too). Your CPU is throttling pretty hard though... it says 4GHz but that score should be closer to 3.4

 

i'm using XTU but can switch to TS if needed thanks.

[D2ultima 324]

7 hours ago, Legion said:

 

i'm using XTU but can switch to TS if needed thanks.

I think the current systems need a very drawn-out process to switch from XTU. Clevo's fault.

[Papusan 167]

The joy of having socket hardware and not the BGA JUNK in Jokebook's!! BGABook,TurdBook,JokeBook... A dear UGLY child has many names!!   http://valid.x86.fr/fs084d

Edited December 28, 2016 by Papusan

[Legion 22]

Well mighty Papusan great score.

 

I personally need something light also for work. I humbly will not compete with you because i'm Wingling not Phoenix! However i think i can get 4ghz/4.1 on CPU + 2000 or maybe 2100 mhz on GPU (will need Prema overclocking lord magics here though)

 

PS

Does anyone seen good guide how to use TS because at first glance it is much more complicated than XTU.

[Papusan 167]

23 hours ago, Legion said:

Well mighty Papusan great score.

 

I personally need something light also for work. I humbly will not compete with you because i'm Wingling not Phoenix! However i think i can get 4ghz/4.1 on CPU + 2000 or maybe 2100 mhz on GPU (will need Prema overclocking lord magics here though)

 

PS

Does anyone seen good guide how to use TS because at first glance it is much more complicated than XTU.

 

Look into bro @Mr. FoxYoutube videos for TS https://www.youtube.com/user/MrFoxRox2 Or take a walk into http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/

Edited December 30, 2016 by Papusan

[coolane 69]

Though my pair of 970Ms is still doing fine in FHD or QHD gaming, but some of the games that I like do not support SLI, such as Gears of War 4, Horizon 3, Quantum Break, etc. This annoyed me sometimes, and happened that I had a chance to be in China for 2 weeks. So well, just did some treasure hunt, and found a MSI 1070 in good price.

 

Here begins with some benchmarks:

Immediately unlocked the card to 200W TDP, core +215 MHz, mem +655 MHz:

 

Fire Strike, over 21K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11324399

Fire Strike Extreme, over 10K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11324446

Time Spy: 6.8K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1009997

3DMark 11 Extreme, over 9K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11882793

 

Behind the scene:

 

Programmed the vBIOS chip to 200W TDP using the SP16-B programmer, the chipset model is MXIC 25U8033E:

 

Modded the 980DT heat sink for standard card, required patiently sawing a corner and sanding work. Added 7 heat pipes for extra cooling:

 

Re-modded the CPU heat sink for better looking (got some phobia of small dense heat sinks), added 7 heat pipes also:

 

Loading temperature of 200W TDP in Furmark with 1280x720 (4xMSAA) after one hour:

Personally I think setting of 720p + 4xMSAA can very well represent general gaming load, 0xMSAA or 2xMSAA consumes too much heat and non realistic, not recommended.

 

Cost (got everything from taobao.com):

new MSI 1070: $660;

new 980DT heat sink: $65;

Heat pipe: $2 ~ 3 each depends on length;

SP16-B programmer: $70;

Also got a new B173ZAN01.0 for only $65 (including added $5 for picking a perfect screen); 40 pins EDP cable $35.

Edited January 6, 2017 by coolane

[Khenglish 1155]

So Prema finally got my 980(m?) to clock memory properly, or at least close enough to contend with cards made 980 by birth.

 

1526/7600 3dm11 22339 GPU score with 1.2V VID core.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11904402

 

It may take a bit, but I think I can get the core much higher and threaten 1600.

 

[thegh0sts 114]

On 06/01/2017 at 4:53 PM, coolane said:

Though my pair of 970Ms is still doing fine in FHD or QHD gaming, but some of the games that I like do not support SLI, such as Gears of War 4, Horizon 3, Quantum Break, etc. This annoyed me sometimes, and happened that I had a chance to be in China for 2 weeks. So well, just did some treasure hunt, and found a MSI 1070 in good price.

 

Here begins with some benchmarks:

Immediately unlocked the card to 200W TDP, core +215 MHz, mem +655 MHz:

 

Fire Strike, over 21K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11324399

Fire Strike Extreme, over 10K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11324446

Time Spy: 6.8K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1009997

3DMark 11 Extreme, over 9K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11882793

 

Behind the scene:

 

Programmed the vBIOS chip to 200W TDP using the SP16-B programmer, the chipset model is MXIC 25U8033E:

 

Modded the 980DT heat sink for standard card, required patiently sawing a corner and sanding work. Added 7 heat pipes for extra cooling:

 

Re-modded the CPU heat sink for better looking (got some phobia of small dense heat sinks), added 7 heat pipes also:

 

Loading temperature of 200W TDP in Furmark with 1280x720 (4xMSAA) after one hour:

Personally I think setting of 720p + 4xMSAA can very well represent general gaming load, 0xMSAA or 2xMSAA consumes too much heat and non realistic, not recommended.

 

Cost (got everything from taobao.com):

new MSI 1070: $660;

new 980DT heat sink: $65;

Heat pipe: $2 ~ 3 each depends on length;

SP16-B programmer: $70;

Also got a new B173ZAN01.0 for only $65 (including added $5 for picking a perfect screen); 40 pins EDP cable $35.

 

i'm curious as to how you pulled this off since i have a 1070 as well. even knowing just how to mod the 980DT heatsink is a start

Edited January 15, 2017 by thegh0sts

[Khenglish 1155]

Here's firestrike at 1526/7700. Still 300 points off from 980N best GPU score:

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17393670

 

And here's time spy. I had to drop clocks to 1510/7600 as I had to run the demo:

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17397691

[thegh0sts 114]

i only managed a measly 15315 with a +120 overclock on the core on the 1070 notebook.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11273854

 

not a cool as @coolane's score but still respectable i think.

 

EDIT: is it possible to dump the vbios and flash it to another 1070?? oh coolane you have me all worked up!

Edited January 15, 2017 by thegh0sts

[coolane 69]

i'm curious as to how you pulled this off since i have a 1070 as well. even knowing just how to mod the 980DT heatsink is a start

 

16 hours ago, thegh0sts said:

i only managed a measly 15315 with a +120 overclock on the core on the 1070 notebook.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11273854

 

not a cool as @coolane's score but still respectable i think.

 

EDIT: is it possible to dump the vbios and flash it to another 1070?? oh coolane you have me all worked up!

 

About modding the 980DT heat sink, please take a look of the picture below (corner was cut out already). You can compare with yours and see the changes.

If you align the MSI 1070 with the 980DT heat sink, you will find those power phases popping the copper panel and preventing the GPU core from making good contact with the heat sink. Especially the individual one in the corner. I used a hacksaw to cut out the corner, and used the 400 sandpaper to deep-sand the places that I circled, following with refined sanding using 800-grit paper and 2000 grit for polishing. This required a lot of works, I would say adding extra (maybe 3) heat pipes on top of the 980M heat sink would be much easier if you don't want the trouble. 

 

 

About the vbios of the 1070, I will recommend to wait for what @prema might come up later or a modded nvflash. Because at this moment, as I know, any modification of the pascal vbios cannot bypass the nvflash and requires a programmer to program it. This involves extra spending in a programmer and higher risk of bricking a card easily. 

I can't provide the vbios because it's not my property. I found it in a chinese forum; if you search "vBIOS硬刷 Pascal GTX1060/70/80" in google, maybe you will find the original thread.

The below post by Dreamonic is a reference of editing the pascal vbios using hex-editor, I tried to mod it by myself and resulted in black screen on boot, not sure what is the cause.

http://www.techinferno.com/haven/threads/94/

[johnksss 720]

[Khenglish 1155]

@johnksss

 

Wow 5.2ghz on the kaby lake in benches. Finally intel releases a cpu that clocks higher than sandy bridge.

[thegh0sts 114]

On 16/01/2017 at 1:52 PM, coolane said:

 

 

About modding the 980DT heat sink, please take a look of the picture below (corner was cut out already). You can compare with yours and see the changes.

If you align the MSI 1070 with the 980DT heat sink, you will find those power phases popping the copper panel and preventing the GPU core from making good contact with the heat sink. Especially the individual one in the corner. I used a hacksaw to cut out the corner, and used the 400 sandpaper to deep-sand the places that I circled, following with refined sanding using 800-grit paper and 2000 grit for polishing. This required a lot of works, I would say adding extra (maybe 3) heat pipes on top of the 980M heat sink would be much easier if you don't want the trouble. 

 

 

About the vbios of the 1070, I will recommend to wait for what @prema might come up later or a modded nvflash. Because at this moment, as I know, any modification of the pascal vbios cannot bypass the nvflash and requires a programmer to program it. This involves extra spending in a programmer and higher risk of bricking a card easily. 

I can't provide the vbios because it's not my property. I found it in a chinese forum; if you search "vBIOS硬刷 Pascal GTX1060/70/80" in google, maybe you will find the original thread.

The below post by Dreamonic is a reference of editing the pascal vbios using hex-editor, I tried to mod it by myself and resulted in black screen on boot, not sure what is the cause.

http://www.techinferno.com/haven/threads/94/

 

Thanks for you insight! i'll do some investigation when i can.

 

1. did you cut and sand with a dremel or something?

2. what do you mean by "sand this deeply inward? possible to get better pics of that section?

3. How do you apply the smaller heatsink fins?

 

i can see the difference between your heatsink and my unmodded one and I am wondering that this might help with temps even at stock TDP.

 

i also noticed that the area in red touches the heatsink...not sure of that's ok.

 

Edited January 18, 2017 by thegh0sts

[coolane 69]

15 hours ago, thegh0sts said:

 

Thanks for you insight! i'll do some investigation when i can.

 

1. did you cut and sand with a dremel or something?

2. what do you mean by "sand this deeply inward? possible to get better pics of that section?

3. How do you apply the smaller heatsink fins?

 

i can see the difference between your heatsink and my unmodded one and I am wondering that this might help with temps even at stock TDP.

 

i also noticed that the area in red touches the heatsink...not sure of that's ok.

 

 

 

1. I just used a simple hacksaw to manually cut it and 3M sand papers to sand it; the saw looks like this one: 

https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-STHT20139L-Rubber-Grip-Hacksaw/dp/B00B5A0T5K/ref=sr_1_2?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1484799254&sr=1-2&keywords=hacksaw

2. Hopefully the below picture can give you a better insight. If you put the 1070 together with the 980DT heat sink, you will see a better picture of where to cut out or sand out. Because your goal is to have the core contact the heat sink evenly with 4 screw holes aligned.

3. Just 3M double sides thermal tape, it came with the small heat fins I got from amazon. If you don't plan to resell your card, you can use some thermal adhesive.

4. It's okay to have the red-circled components to touch the heat sink, I applied some thermal paste there to dissipate the heat.

[thegh0sts 114]

 

1. I just used a simple hacksaw to manually cut it and 3M sand papers to sand it; the saw looks like this one: 

https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-STHT20139L-Rubber-Grip-Hacksaw/dp/B00B5A0T5K/ref=sr_1_2?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1484799254&sr=1-2&keywords=hacksaw

2. Hopefully the below picture can give you a better insight. If you put the 1070 together with the 980DT heat sink, you will see a better picture of where to cut out or sand out. Because your goal is to have the core contact the heat sink evenly with 4 screw holes aligned.



3. Just 3M double sides thermal tape, it came with the small heat fins I got from amazon. If you don't plan to resell your card, you can use some thermal adhesive.

4. It's okay to have the red-circled components to touch the heat sink, I applied some thermal paste there to dissipate the heat.

Thanks@coolane this info is brilliant. I'll give this a try.

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[thegh0sts 114]

@coolane one last question, the mini heatsinks, what size are they? most of the chips / mosfets look like they're at least 1cm x 1cm (i checked my 980DT as a reference) - is that correct? i don't want to get bigger heatsinks and cut them down as that might screw with the sink's ability to transfer the heat away.

 

EDIT: I found some heatsinks that look similar on moddiy.com so i bought a few and some transfer tape. all i need to get now is dremel to "trim" the heatsink and the sand paper then i shall be set to go with this mod. i've started my commitment to this LOL

Edited January 20, 2017 by thegh0sts

[coolane 69]

On 1/20/2017 at 6:21 AM, thegh0sts said:

@coolane one last question, the mini heatsinks, what size are they? most of the chips / mosfets look like they're at least 1cm x 1cm (i checked my 980DT as a reference) - is that correct? i don't want to get bigger heatsinks and cut them down as that might screw with the sink's ability to transfer the heat away.

 

EDIT: I found some heatsinks that look similar on moddiy.com so i bought a few and some transfer tape. all i need to get now is dremel to "trim" the heatsink and the sand paper then i shall be set to go with this mod. i've started my commitment to this LOL

This is the package I got from amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Mudder-Aluminum-Heatsink-Cooling-Raspberry/dp/B01GE7Q060/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1485027248&sr=8-23&keywords=heatsink

They were designed for Rasberry Pi. I used the smaller one from the package, the size was showed as 8.8mm x 8.8mm x 5mm.

Please PM me if you have further question. I feel like this is a wrong thread to talk about modding in details.

[thegh0sts 114]

7 hours ago, coolane said:

This is the package I got from amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Mudder-Aluminum-Heatsink-Cooling-Raspberry/dp/B01GE7Q060/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1485027248&sr=8-23&keywords=heatsink

They were designed for Rasberry Pi. I used the smaller one from the package, the size was showed as 8.8mm x 8.8mm x 5mm.

Please PM me if you have further question. I feel like this is a wrong thread to talk about modding in details.

 

sure, i've made a thread for future reference and further discussion

[j3tstream 12]

Uau I see mxm is not dead at all. Any chance in the future a p170em may get an 1060/1070 upgrade bios? Would it even be compatible?

[Legion 22]

On 17.02.2017 at 4:02 PM, j3tstream said:

Uau I see mxm is not dead at all. Any chance in the future a p170em may get an 1060/1070 upgrade bios? Would it even be compatible?

 Prema already have tested 1060 in P150XX once so there might be a chance...

 

My new score after heatsink swap and TS usage. Temps are much better but stock BIOS/firmare is still problematic (current and power limits + my corsair 3000 mhz don't want to work properly).

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18307949

 

 

[Revenknight 0]

Hello everyone!

I have a problem with my GPU.

When it's overclocked:

Core: +332MHz

Memory: +350MHz

Voltage: 1,5V

It crashes often during gaming, especially when I ran 3dmark firestrike.

GPU-Z shows under PerfCap reasons: Idle.

What causes this issue?

Is my power adapter not strong enough? I have a 180W PSU.

 

[DAMIN 2]

On 11/11/2016 at 9:42 PM, wersuss said:

Yes, finally crossed 14k on my Gtx980, 1.287v. Prema vbios. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16004115

Hello Was this a vbios mod on the gtx980 200w ?