Alienware vs. Origin Laptop

[DarkSpyro92]

I've heard a lot of bad things about Alienware and keep hearing Origin is the best.

I don't care about the design. Even if it looks like an 80s computer, as long as I can run my Skyrim, BF4, and GTA V on the max settings even after dropping it on concrete or leaving it on and charged for days at a time. I want power and quality.

What do you think?

[devilhunter]

Origin PC is a rebranded Clevo, same as sager and Eurocom.

I would buy a Eurocom custom laptop. They offer the best configuration (Im not trying to market their business...)

Check "Panther"

[DarkSpyro92]

Well now I'm hearing the best bang for my buck would just be to just build a custom laptop, but I know nothing about building computers and don't want to mess anything up.

Origin PC is a rebranded Clevo, same as sager and Eurocom.

I would buy a Eurocom custom laptop. They offer the best configuration (Im not trying to market their business...)

Check "Panther"

I looked at the Panther, and tried customizing it with the best specs on the site, and without even going halfway through it's already more expensive than an Origin that has better specs.

[haiwepa]

I think panther is not the correct laptop to choose from Eurocom to compare: the scorpius 3 is based on the same barebone than Eon 17 SLX.

This said, i've tried to configure one of each with same hardware: Origin is less expensive (-90USD plus a free recovery usb stick) than Eurocom, but you have less choices (especially for the screen).

[D2ultima]

Yeah, Eurocom is exceedingly expensive for reasons unknown. You can also get from Sager through a reseller like LPC-Digital or XoticPC and it will be cheaper than both origin and eurocom. But as far as I could see, many of these clevo rebranders have been skimping on QA with these machines so it's more of a "pick your poison" kind of deal.

I can say that a place that WILL definitely do QA before sending to you is Mythlogic, but Mythlogic is also a bit expensive, and warranty may not be as above and beyond as it was say two years ago.

[Guest]

I've heard a lot of bad things about Alienware and keep hearing Origin is the best.

I don't care about the design. Even if it looks like an 80s computer, as long as I can run my Skyrim, BF4, and GTA V on the max settings even after dropping it on concrete or leaving it on and charged for days at a time. I want power and quality.

What do you think?

Origin PC is a rebranded Clevo, same as sager and Eurocom.

I would buy a Eurocom custom laptop. They offer the best configuration (Im not trying to market their business...)

Check "Panther"

I agree with the Panther (P570WM) recommendation. If you truly place a high value performance and want a quality build as well, that's your machine. There is nothing wrong with the other options, just chiming in based on what you said was important. The other options cannot come close to the performance of the Panther.

[DarkSpyro92]

I agree with the Panther (P570WM) recommendation. If you truly place a high value performance and want a quality build as well, that's your machine. There is nothing wrong with the other options, just chiming in based on what you said was important. The other options cannot come close to the performance of the Panther.

It is beyond expensive, however. The one universal thing I guess I should've included is a good price. I can get max specs on an Origin 17" laptop with a bag, shipped in a box, custom case design, and a bunch of other neat features for about $6,200. I went through about five options on the Panther and chose the max stuff like I did with Origin, and it was already over $6,500. I still had about 20 settings to go through.

[DarkSpyro92]

I think panther is not the correct laptop to choose from Eurocom to compare: the scorpius 3 is based on the same barebone than Eon 17 SLX.

This said, i've tried to configure one of each with same hardware: Origin is less expensive (-90USD plus a free recovery usb stick) than Eurocom, but you have less choices (especially for the screen).

What features would I really be missing out on? Nothing really important? The screen isn't really important, since I won't be taking it outside, so matte is of no issue. I also don't need it to look pretty on the screen (Although I also would like to be able to see what I'm doing instead of a blurry mess), but what I really don't want is to be teleporting around and not being able to hit things.

[haiwepa]

Nothing really important: only the screen option could have been a matter. That said, if it was for myself, i'd go to Origin (same hardware, -90USD, usb recovery stick for free, what else?).

[devilhunter]

It is beyond expensive, however. The one universal thing I guess I should've included is a good price. I can get max specs on an Origin 17" laptop with a bag, shipped in a box, custom case design, and a bunch of other neat features for about $6,200. I went through about five options on the Panther and chose the max stuff like I did with Origin, and it was already over $6,500. I still had about 20 settings to go through.

You can always ask for discount, you can ask directly from Eurocom youtube channel. Same implies with XoticPc and Origin.

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What features would I really be missing out on? Nothing really important? The screen isn't really important, since I won't be taking it outside, so matte is of no issue. I also don't need it to look pretty on the screen (Although I also would like to be able to see what I'm doing instead of a blurry mess), but what I really don't want is to be teleporting around and not being able to hit things.

The screen makes a HUGE difference, check some reviews on the screen. Some of clevo clones laptop do really have shitty screeens

[DarkSpyro92]

You can always ask for discount, you can ask directly from Eurocom youtube channel. Same implies with XoticPc and Origin.

I really can? I wonder for how much. I knocked down the price of the Origin laptop I wanted to about $6,000 once I removed a few unnecessary things (such as lojack and t-shirts), but hopefully I can get it lower. I don't make much money since I don't have a job and I'm a college student. I can get the money if I save up, eventually.

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The screen makes a HUGE difference, check some reviews on the screen. Some of clevo clones laptop do really have shitty screeens

Origin does have matte screen with LCD calibration (whatever that is), and the raving reviews I've heard from friends are very good. I think the screen will be fine if I choose Origin.

But when it comes down to it, can't I just replace the screen myself if it's bad by purchasing a separate one and installing it into the laptop for cheap?

[devilhunter]

Origin does have matte screen with LCD calibration (whatever that is), and the raving reviews I've heard from friends are very good. I think the screen will be fine if I choose Origin.

But when it comes down to it, can't I just replace the screen myself if it's bad by purchasing a separate one and installing it into the laptop for cheap?

All laptop screens are replaceable. You have 30 days guarantee or something provided by origin.

I was about to Purchase an origin PC to be frank, but when I found about the panther, I quickly changed my mind. If you are looking for resell value, then aim for alienware. If you are looking for a good performance laptop that you plan to use for 3 years at max, then get an asus ROG. My asus is still working and my family is using it as a workstation despite all my experiments on it. If you plan to use a laptop for 5 years + with great value and upgradability then Clevo clones are not a bad choice at all. If you are looking for the ultimate laptop performance, get panther, period.

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Also, check dinoPc there are Gigabyte clones as well.

[DarkSpyro92]

So I have the specs of both the Eurocom Panther 5 and the Origin E17 that I wanted and I'm not a computer specialist. Compared together, what do you all think?

I had to use copy-paste, MS Word, and paint to really get it all lined up.

Edit: Also, I wanted all this for gaming. The Panther isn't under Eurocoms gaming laptops. Is it really good for gaming compared to a gaming PC producer like Origin?

[haiwepa]

You're trying to compare a wild beast to a tamed one! Origin E17 is the same as eurocom P5 pro, not panther.

[Guest]

So I have the specs of both the Eurocom Panther 5 and the Origin E17 that I wanted and I'm not a computer specialist. Compared together, what do you all think?

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I had to use copy-paste, MS Word, and paint to really get it all lined up.

Edit: Also, I wanted all this for gaming. The Panther isn't under Eurocoms gaming laptops. Is it really good for gaming compared to a gaming PC producer like Origin?

Yes, it's an incredible machine. It makes mincemeat of games. It's the only laptop in existence that has a desktop hexacore CPU and dual GPU. It's the master of all beast laptops and pretty much destroys everything else. It can also run Xeon processors and be used as a portable server.

[DarkSpyro92]

Yes, it's an incredible machine. It makes mincemeat of games. It's the only laptop in existence that has a desktop hexacore CPU and dual GPU. It's the master of all beast laptops and pretty much destroys everything else. It can also run Xeon processors and be used as a portable server.

Well I guess that settles it. I'll get a Panther, then.

[Guest]

Well I guess that settles it. I'll get a Panther, then.

Here's a 3DMark 11 run with the Panther 5 and 4930K using a rather boring 4.3GHz CPU overclock and the 980M SLI running stock clocks. Pretty impressive results for zero effort.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4930K,Clevo P570WM powered by PremaMod.com

[devilhunter]

Well I guess that settles it. I'll get a Panther, then.

I do have a 4940mx CPU, and its a total garbage, extreme edition of mobile CPU is usually a miss. Panther is not an ergonomic laptop, but for sure its the best performance "laptop" out there. Also, 980m is really damn good, its actually not far away from the desktop ver. performance wise. At last, DONT GET 880m GTX, NVIDIA's BIGGEST SCAM!

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Why techinfero is not notifying me when a thread I contributed to got updated with new posts?

[Guest]

I do have a 4940mx CPU, and its a total garbage, extreme edition of mobile CPU is usually a miss. Panther is not an ergonomic laptop, but for sure its the best performance "laptop" out there. Also, 980m is really damn good, its actually not far away from the desktop ver. performance wise. At last, DONT GET 880m GTX, NVIDIA's BIGGEST SCAM!

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Why techinfero is not notifying me when a thread I contributed to got updated with new posts?

You may have accidentally clicked a link to unsubscribe in one of the emails. I have done that many times by accident. Go to the top of the page, click "Thread Tools" and if there is an option to "Subscribe" you'll be set again.

I don't have 4940MX, but 4930MX is fairly decent in the right machine. Mine and a few others I have seen overclock nicely as long as temps are controlled. I have not seen any impressive overclocking examples using the 4940MX. Not sure if that is user and machine dependent, or a flaw with the 4940MX, or a combination of all of those elements.

I have no problem overclocking that CPU at all, but thermal management is a real chore with Haswell. My 4930MX overclocking in unmanageable except with Liquid Ultra thermal paste. I have been using it on the 3920XM and 4930MX for over a year with superior results. I cannot use it on my Panther because the heat sink does not mate with the CPU IHS well enough. I have to use IC Diamond to fill the gap and it (and other pastes) is not nearly as effective as Liquid Ultra. Liquid Ultra requires a nice tight and square alignment and cannot be used to fill the gap in sloppy fit. I should look into a replacement CPU heat sink for this Clevo beast. It does wonderful at 4.3GHz with IC Diamond, but 4.5GHz gets way too hot unless I use AC cooling. I can run the 3920XM at 4.5GHz without AC cooling using Liquid Ultra and not have any thermal management issues, but the CPU (and GPU) heat sinks fit extremely well on both the M18xR2 and Alienware 18. This is one area where Alienware has consistently done a marvelous job. Unfortunately, with the new BGA machines, it's not all that important because they are not made for, and incapable of delivering, extreme performance.

[Dothan]

Eurocom has a 10% discount going on now, yes even if your not a student, they will pretty much apply it to any build this Spring I believe. Search slickdeals for it...

[arulin]

I've heard a lot of bad things about Alienware and keep hearing Origin is the best.

I don't care about the design. Even if it looks like an 80s computer, as long as I can run my Skyrim, BF4, and GTA V on the max settings even after dropping it on concrete or leaving it on and charged for days at a time. I want power and quality.

What do you think?

Alienware x17m R3 with a 2960xm, over 16 gigs, all SSDs, and a 780m GTX stock got nearly 11000 on the Heavensward Benchmark. A k4000m can whip Skyrim if it overclocked. Suggest you don't go over 950 on that clock and clock the ram to 2500. The PCI-E 2.0 is a "bottle neck" on that card. So if you are looking for a tuner on Ebay, R3 or R4 are sweet. R4s can even go for a 880 (K5000m) to a 980 or the AMD equate so that about where I stop on Alienwares.

If you want something new, Eurocom, have about 5000US$ and get the workstation SLI they released (Dual Xeno processors), you won't be replacing it for some 15 years plus. You can litterally run "any game on the planet max" on a setup like that.

[Infini]

Dell Alienware 18 Laptop i7 4900MQ 4 0GHz 32GB 2080SSD 8GB 780M GTX M18x | eBay

Someones selling new unused Alienware 18's if your interested. Good price on em too and hardware by the looks of em. Seem to be lower scale on the graphics but if your competent enough eurocom is selling 980m's and heat sync parts.

[user21233]

Alienware isn't exactly the best value these days. You're mainly paying for the brand. Anything clevo is good, though, origin is a big brand as well. Check out Sager Notebooks.