hugog3011 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 mine was the same original but i found the 33 10 better. I dont understand, if i use the 33 10 stock without OV and clock it to +130 / +600 i get higher score than if i use a OV 1.025v or 1.05 and clock to +230 / +600 wtf? i mean i got the P150EM with the 180W PSU and i dont have a XM cpu just a 3610QM shouldnt i have space to Overclock? why am i getting lower score like 200-400.EDIT: +130/550 3dmark vantage 24800 score and 3dmark 11 P7255. I have the 7970M aswell and it scores higher ( 26k vantage) with the same Notebook, well its optimized for benchmark probably. Well i dont know why my 680M doesnt work well with higher clocks (OV) its getting around 80C°while benchmark and while gaming farcry 3 85-90C.Strange... more voltage e clock.. e worst benchmarks... and in real world, fps games? is worst too?Are you using 33.10 MSI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 mine was the same original but i found the 33 10 better. I dont understand, if i use the 33 10 stock without OV and clock it to +130 / +600 i get higher score than if i use a OV 1.025v or 1.05 and clock to +230 / +600 wtf? i mean i got the P150EM with the 180W PSU and i dont have a XM cpu just a 3610QM shouldnt i have space to Overclock? why am i getting lower score like 200-400.EDIT: +130/550 3dmark vantage 24800 score and 3dmark 11 P7255. I have the 7970M aswell and it scores higher ( 26k vantage) with the same Notebook, well its optimized for benchmark probably. Well i dont know why my 680M doesnt work well with higher clocks (OV) its getting around 80C°while benchmark and while gaming farcry 3 85-90C.When detecting high power draw the P150EM will begin clock modulation throttling on the CPU. I have run throttlestop for months to kill the throttling and the laptop still works fine.As for temperatures, clevo has a poor manufacturing method of both the CPU and GPU heatsinks that results in them being uneven where they must make contact with processor dies. You can knock over 10C off temps by lapping the heatsinks. At 1.05V 1006Mhz with the fans on auto I only reach 84C in heaven with a room temp of 72F. I did some other cooling mods too, but the majority of my improvement came from lapping the heatsink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel_ennix Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 guys i need help just tried flashing one of the bios here and i always get this error ID mismatch i already tried flashing it with commands such as nvflash -2 -3 -4 -5 -6 -j -p -u and nothing works i also tried turning the protection off but i still get the mismatch error im using dell GTX680M 4GB on a m17xR4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riri-Fifi Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 guys i need help just tried flashing one of the bios here and i always get this error ID mismatch i already tried flashing it with commands such as nvflash -2 -3 -4 -5 -6 -j -p -u and nothing works i also tried turning the protection off but i still get the mismatch error im using dell GTX680M 4GB on a m17xR4 Hi! Donwload pj decrompress C: load KeplerBiosTweaker.exe nvflash.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gschneider Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Hi all, First all of I have read all 208 pages of this and some how I still feel confused about somethings. I would like to thank all previous posts as you have helped me a lot Facts to note: Alienware M17x R4 - not yet delivered. UK variant with 200Watt power adaptor. Nvidia driver set: 314.22, Geforce Experience is installed. Nvidia 2GB 680m So questions: 1. What is the difference with all the different vbios version. I know there is a volatage difference but is there a default clock and mem clock difference? or is it a case of just increase voltage so you can over clock more. Dell 680m - 80.04.5B.00.02_'OCedition'_revised_00.zip Dell 680m - 80.04.33.00.32__'OCedition'_revised_00 - OV 1000v.zip Dell 680m - 80.04.33.00.32__'OCedition'_revised_00 - OV 1025v.zip Dell 680m - 80.04.33.00.32__'OCedition'_revised_00 - OV 1050v.zip Dell 680m - 80.04.33.00.32__'OCedition'_revised_00.zip I am looking to increase my standard spec for more FPS in Battlefield 3 in preparation for Battlefield 4. I have read that you guys are achieving close to that of the desktop Gtx 670 and I would love to get that performance, this leads nicely into question 2. 2. Safety. How safe is it to have a vbios? I have a 3 year warranty with my system (I got it free as I haggled) I know its all about temps I remember that from the old days with my ATi 9800XT. under 85c I think I read is a good temp. 3. Is there any driver issue with vbios? 4. Does this work under windows 8 Pro 64bit? 5. Is there anything else affected? Optimus? Gpu Boost? 6. Is it better to have permanent over clock say 1000/2500 (to equal Desktop 670) or over clock when you need it? 7. Is it possible to software overvolt to achieve the 670 speeds without the need of a vbios if over clocking when needed makes more sense. Info to help: I have done some things in advance, I have Nvidia Inspector, GPU-Z, MSI afterburner +iPhone app, 3dmark 11 and 3d mark vantage. This system is solely to play games on it does nothing else at all, for anything else I use a Mac or iPad. Reliability is also key to me as this system is there just to play games on it has to last 3 years before replacement hence why I want some extra juice. I don't mind having to turn on the system and load a profile from my gpu then start a game. Key is just to get a stable, reliable, safe over clock to speeds equally that of desktop 670 cards to increase FPS in games so I can use higher detail settings I do apologise in advance if anyone feels my questions are noobish, I have been out of the PC market for 5 yrs now. I do understand the principle of over clocking, small increments, Testing and temperature monitoring against performance gain. I just haven't had to for 5yrs LOL. I thank you all for your time in helping me all the best Glen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gschneider Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 hi svl7 current exchange is £1 to $1.52 I will gladly donate case of beer for help, seems a very fair trade to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 All bios are on stock clock, boost is disabled, the voltage can be seen in the file name. Generally you can say more voltage results in higher stable clocks, but of course this also comes with higher temps. You'll need to see for yourself what works best for your system. The OS is independent of the vbios, so yes it works with all of them, if you see driver issues then it's the drivers fault, the above vbios versions work perfectly fine.About how to clock them... whatever you prefer, my card is usually running at stock clocks. You will need the vbios to get more voltage. Just keep a backup of your original vbios and you can always flash back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schranzmaster Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 @svl7 would it work if i use the dell 660m overvolted vBios for my lenovo y580 660m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gschneider Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I have another question for you svl7, I read that you play most of your games on stock clock speeds. Why do you play at stock on a 680m if you can achieve a greater playable fps with your vbios and OC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugog3011 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 All bios are on stock clock, boost is disabled, the voltage can be seen in the file name. Generally you can say more voltage results in higher stable clocks, but of course this also comes with higher temps. You'll need to see for yourself what works best for your system. The OS is independent of the vbios, so yes it works with all of them, if you see driver issues then it's the drivers fault, the above vbios versions work perfectly fine.About how to clock them... whatever you prefer, my card is usually running at stock clocks. You will need the vbios to get more voltage. Just keep a backup of your original vbios and you can always flash back.svl7, and about bios versions.. and brand... like msi... there's diferences between than?Also now i'm experiencing problems with OC bios... in the game the 680m clock go to 324mhz suddently... and i using que max stock oc.. nothing different... anyone knows about that?Usingo beta drivers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gschneider Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Desktop Class Processor680670 660ti660Cuda Cores153613441344960Gpu Clock10589809801033Mem Clock 1500150015001500Mem effective6000600060006000Bandwidth192.2192.2144.2144.2BF3 FPS6553Laptop ClassProcessor 780m680mx 680m675mx670mCuda Cores153615361344960384Gpu Clock797720720600620Mem Clock 12501250900900750Mem effective25002500180018001500Bandwidth160160115.2115.296Overclocked 680mProcessor780mExtremme - VBOC - VBOC onlyOC onlystandardCuda Cores1536Gpu Clock1037902864806720Gpu Clock797Mem Clock 125011001033960900Mem Clock 1250Mem effective25002200206619201800Mem effective2500Bandwidth160140.8132.2122.9115.2Bandwidth160BF3 FPS62.258454341.7from review62Above Adjusted for 780m review online against the 680m review on here. Adjustment 8 FPS 680m 42BF3 not adjusted70.265535148.7I did this earlier from around the internet to get information.All laptop/desktop Class information is taken directly from Nvidia websiteOC = overclockVB = vbios.red text = my own speculation based on calculation.780m spec takjen from here: [url=http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-GTX-780M-Mobile-GPU,22546.html]Report: Nvidia GTX 780M Specifications Surface[/url]Extremme VB taken from review of 680m on this website as is OC-VB.BF3 FPS ultra settings 4xAA 16xAF.I just thought it would make a good comparison for anyone.svl7 I have noted your advice about trial and error with what works for my system.I have come to the conclusion I wanted to aim for 1001mhz Core/2500mhz Memory. Which voltage would be best for this? 1v or 1.025v or 1.050v again aiming for stability? I might push for 1037mhz if it will let me achieve the 1001/2500. So I can match the 780m :DI am unsure how you calculate what voltage to use in order to achieve a given speed on core/mem clocks with stability. Looking for something like a tablev0.987 = 758/1800 to 864/2000v1.0 = ....... to ....v1.025 = ... to ....v1.05 = ... to ...(above is example only)I get that its not an exact science but a little pointer like the table about might light my path. Especially as I can't increase the voltage with software? (I only know that MSI afterburner doesnt let you adjust voltage, if another program does feel free to correct me).Thank youGlen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Per Kristian Sørpebøl Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I got a question about cooling.Is there any way to cool a NP9150? Should I use arctic silver on CPU and GPU. I can get 855 Core - 950 Memory, but then it reaches 90 celsius.I tried higher and i can see that it's stable but it throttles it down to 600 core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I got a question about cooling.Is there any way to cool a NP9150? Should I use arctic silver on CPU and GPU. I can get 855 Core - 950 Memory, but then it reaches 90 celsius.I tried higher and i can see that it's stable but it throttles it down to 600 coreclevo sells their laptops with bent heatsink plates so that it is impossible to get good die contact without lapping heatsinks. You can somewhat compensate by using a large amount of thermal paste, but flattening out the heatsink is the only true fix. I sanded mine flat on the edge of a countertop with 800 grit sandpaper. Arctic silver is an outdated thermal paste. I suggest IC Diamond instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invictadeus Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Just wanted to say thks to slv7! You are the man! Downloaded Dell 680m - 80.04.5B.00.02_'OCedition'_revised_00.zip and runs fantastic! Overclock to 175/300 and games are running a good 15 to 20 percent faster in fps and stable. Once again awesome work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Smith Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Guys, everybody who tried the vBios can answer to this Please.Clevo, Dell, MSI:GPU :vBios: which one you flashed (svl7 vbios stock Voltage, OV 1050, OV 1025, OV 1000)Core / Memory Clock :3d Mark 11 :3d Mark Vantage : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjtnag Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 what is the difference between these two?Dell 680m - 80.04.5B.00.02_'OCedition'_revised_00.zip (116.9 KBDell 680m - 80.04.33.00.32__'OCedition'_revised_00.zip (52.3 KBi am also having some trouble with the overvolt vbiosesmy fan control is shot, i have to use hwinfo64 to control themand the card just starts to throttle when it reaches 90C (it shouldn't be that hot, right?)i'll just try to clean my fans and the ventand another problem is that, i am not able to flash to a non OV, just unlocked vbiosthough i am able to flash back to my backup rom(no use though) i always flash to stock before flashing any other rom, just to be safei would also like to know what is the difference between the two vbioses mentioned abovethanks a lot to the dedicated vbios editors/patchers! really helped me get my $monies$ worth ot of my machineSystem: M17XR4 with dell 680M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nofew Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Rajar Roger Nag: I don't know the differences between them, but so far I think the 5B version may be meant for laptops with 3D screens. Thise are wired different and require that Optimus be disabled. I could use some help researching this. Is your screen 3D-capable, and what version is your stock vbios?The limit set by nVidia is 95 C. Don't hit that. 90 C is the highest you should probably be going while supervising it. For regular use you'll wanna run less. I don't hit 90 even while running OCCT with a +240 overclock, so if you're running hotter at lower speeds something's probably wrong. How hot is your room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjtnag Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Rajar Roger Nag: I don't know the differences between them, but so far I think the 5B version may be meant for laptops with 3D screens. Thise are wired different and require that Optimus be disabled. I could use some help researching this. Is your screen 3D-capable, and what version is your stock vbios?The limit set by nVidia is 95 C. Don't hit that. 90 C is the highest you should probably be going while supervising it. For regular use you'll wanna run less. I don't hit 90 even while running OCCT with a +240 overclock, so if you're running hotter at lower speeds something's probably wrong. How hot is your room?thanks for the replyi have the m17r4 with nvidia 3d vision2 with a dell 680mhere is my stock vbioshttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32467782/backup.romi really do not know what version my vbios is.it is pretty hot here in New Delhi, India (hitting 45C in the afternoon)so i would say that my room would be around ~33-35Crunning furmark at stock hits 80-82C(stock voltage)it hits 90, on 1Volt vbois nonOCthe increased voltage mods somehow broke my fan control, used Hwinfo for thatbut hwinfo also randomly crashes (4.1.8.0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 thanks for the replyi have the m17r4 with nvidia 3d vision2 with a dell 680mhere is my stock vbioshttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32467782/backup.romi really do not know what version my vbios is.it is pretty hot here in New Delhi, India (hitting 45C in the afternoon)so i would say that my room would be around ~33-35Crunning furmark at stock hits 80-82C(stock voltage)it hits 90, on 1Volt vbois nonOCthe increased voltage mods somehow broke my fan control, used Hwinfo for thatbut hwinfo also randomly crashes (4.1.8.0)That's v80.04.33.00.32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjtnag Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 thanks a lot for helping me on that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNtAl_DaRkNeSs Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Guys, everybody who tried the vBios can answer to this Please.Clevo, Dell, MSI: GPU : vBios: which one you flashed (svl7 vbios stock Voltage, OV 1050, OV 1025, OV 1000) Core / Memory Clock : 3d Mark 11 : 3d Mark Vantage : Hi ppl, Here are my answers: Clevo: P150EM GPU : GTX 680M vBios: svl7 vbios stock Voltage Core / Memory Clock : 936 / 1200 3d Mark 11 : GPU score 7612 3d Mark Vantage : GPU score 26603 I hope it's helpful Best Regards to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugog3011 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Clevo: P170EMGPU : GTX 680MvBios: Clevo 680m - 80.04.67.00.01 'OCedition' revised_01.zip stock voltageCore / Memory Clock : 936 / 12003d Mark 11 : GPU score 75633d Mark Vantage : P25734 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaniTaRiuM Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 DellGPU: 680m SLIvBIOS: stock voltageCore/Memory Clock: 920/22503d Mark 11: 12489 (windows 8)3d Mark 11 GPU score: 150393d Mark Vantage: not testedCPU is a 3740qm with 41/40/39/39Edit: just added GPU score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nofew Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Rajat Roger Nag: Okay, did some research and found out that .5B has support for Secure Boot and Fast Boot while .33 doesn't. I don't really know why a GPU would affect those things, but that seems to be the case.Do you know if your BIOS even has an UEFI option? You can check under the "boot" page and see if there's a toggle option between "UEFI" and "Legacy". I'm thinking about flashing .33 onto my card, but I know Secure Boot and Fast Boot are both UEFI things and I don't have much experience there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjtnag Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Rajat Roger Nag: Okay, did some research and found out that .5B has support for Secure Boot and Fast Boot while .33 doesn't. I don't really know why a GPU would affect those things, but that seems to be the case.Do you know if your BIOS even has an UEFI option? You can check under the "boot" page and see if there's a toggle option between "UEFI" and "Legacy". I'm thinking about flashing .33 onto my card, but I know Secure Boot and Fast Boot are both UEFI things and I don't have much experience there.thanks for the info!i am currently on bios A11it does have a UEFI and legacy boot optionbut isnt it for windows 8 fast boot?using windows 7 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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