minominti Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Classified Tool does not Idle the vcore. I think they use direct access to the VRM controller just like what AB Beta14 does. GreatBut how you managed to run 1212mv with stock bios ? Theres no stock BIOS capable of running more than 1.2v or even 1187 afaik My stock Zotac bios can run 1.2 V by adding +38 mV via any GPU overclocking tools but it throttles like mad. Not sure about 1.21 V, though. From what I can see from AB Beta14 the reference board could actually run with more than 1,3 V but somehow I am thinking the program author limited it to 1,3 V to minimize people frying their cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowyy1337 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 GreatBut how you managed to run 1212mv with stock bios ? Theres no stock BIOS capable of running more than 1.2v or even 1187 afaik My bad.. it was 1187mV. Fixed the other post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gh0stp1rate Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 @svl7Is your Classy VBIOS default core clock set to 993MHz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menthol Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Your Classified bios has been working well for me, Thank you very much. If you want to clock the 780 Classified very high it will take very good cooling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xonar Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Your Classified bios has been working well for me, Thank you very much. If you want to clock the 780 Classified very high it will take very good cooling[ATTACH=CONFIG]8746[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]8747[/ATTACH]Amazing scores! Grats to you and svl7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DStealth Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 From what I can see from AB Beta14 the reference board could actually run with more than 1,3 V but somehow I am thinking the program author limited it to 1,3 V to minimize people frying their cards. It's no problem to program till 1.6v Also find registers to disable Vdroop, but hit power limit @ 1345 1325mv and now it throttles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicehunter Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I flashed to the Nvidia GTX 780 (EVGA) - 80.10.3A.00.01 - 'OC edition v03' as I had your older "OC Edition" and now I can no longer set my voltage any lower than 935 where as before I could get near 800, Also now I cannot lower my memory clock below 0 in EVGA Precision X where as before I could get -502MHZ but I can get this on the stock VBios.Also your REV03 VBios is only 198KB in size and the older one was around 250KB, what changed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 It's no problem to program till 1.6v Also find registers to disable Vdroop, but hit power limit @ 1345 1325mv and now it throttles...[ATTACH=CONFIG]8748[/ATTACH] Yes, but seeing that people already killed reference boards with as much as 1.35V I really don't think 1.6V is a wise decision. I think there's a reason why the AB dev set it to 1.3V max... I flashed to the Nvidia GTX 780 (EVGA) - 80.10.3A.00.01 - 'OC edition v03' as I had your older "OC Edition" and now I can no longer set my voltage any lower than 935 where as before I could get near 800, Also now I cannot lower my memory clock below 0 in EVGA Precision X where as before I could get -502MHZ but I can get this on the stock VBios. You are able to lower the 3d voltage per software with the stock vbios? Can you send me a screenshot of Nvidia Inspector when you use the stock vbios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicehunter Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You are able to lower the 3d voltage per software with the stock vbios? Can you send me a screenshot of Nvidia Inspector when you use the stock vbios?No that's not what i meant, in your last OC bios i could lower the voltage below 935 now i cannot and the memory will not go below 0 in precision x like it did before in your last oc bios but with the stock bios the memory willIn short with this vbios, I cannot underclock or undervolt like with your older one, rev 1 or 2 maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minominti Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 @DStealth Grats on solving the vdroop and good clocks, haven't started to pushed my card that hard Yes, NCP4206 could actually output up to 1,6 but I don't think the heat will be tolerable, getting it cold is the only way. @svl7 I was wondering whether if you could actually remove the power or temp limit completely because I am still fascinated by how my GTX 680M overclocks without those limitations. I know the 680M didn't get that boost implemented in the first place if that what matters, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 I still don't get what you mean, please post the screenshot I mentioned. - - - Updated - - - ove the power or temp limit completely because I am still fascinated by how my GTX 680M overclocks without those limitations. I know the 680M didn't get that boost implemented in the first place if that what matters, thanks 680m has boost in the stock vbios, whether it works or depends also on the bios of the system. I don't think you can completely remove the power limit, at a certain point it is limited by the board, but that doesn't really matter as you can't get such a high power draw by pure software overclock anyway.... and the temp target doesn't matter as long as you prioritize the power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minominti Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 - - - Updated - - -680m has boost in the stock vbios, whether it works or depends also on the bios of the system. I don't think you can completely remove the power limit, at a certain point it is limited by the board, but that doesn't really matter as you can't get such a high power draw by pure software overclock anyway.... and the temp target doesn't matter as long as you prioritize the power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 You mean you're currently limit by the power limit when you overclock your desktop 700 series card? What are your settings? Card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicehunter Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Here's the picture, On the bios before rev3 i could get lower voltage and underclock better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 Ok, can I get the same with Nvidia Inspector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicehunter Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Ok, can I get the same with Nvidia Inspector?I have no idea how to do that, Could you not re-upload the earlier bios as that worked much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 Just download Nvidia Inspector, open it, click on 'show overclocking' and make a screenshot.Sure I can, but I want to see what's really wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minominti Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You mean you're currently limit by the power limit when you overclock your desktop 700 series card? What are your settings? Card? I was using Zotac 780 ref with stock bios and was limited to 1.2 GHz and then it started throttling horribly on 3dmark test 1. I am currently using your rev3 bios and it works really great, no more throttling and I am getting 1000 points more in GPU score with the same clock. Thank you so much svl7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicehunter Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Here you go, your rev02 bios i think it was let me undervolt and underclock this one will not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 Sure it does. Default 3d votlage is 1.15V and it allows you to go to 1.15V - 0.2V resulting in 0.95V which is very low for the 3d state anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicehunter Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 The one before rev3 let me go 0.825 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 With EVGA precision? It certainly didn't allow for undervolting with the inspector... but anyway, what do you want with a 3d P-State at 0.825v? That's totally pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gh0stp1rate Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 @svl7What's the default core clock on your 780 Classified VBIOS, is it 993MHz?EDIT: NM, I was able to download it and flash it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicehunter Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 With EVGA precision? It certainly didn't allow for undervolting with the inspector... but anyway, what do you want with a 3d P-State at 0.825v? That's totally pointless. Lower temps and the ability to underclock even the memory like I could in your previous bios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaharacer19 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Is there going to be a BIOS mod for the GTX 770? I couldn't find anything throughout this entire thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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