Clevo X7200 vs Alienware M18x

[StamatisX]

Which one would you choose and why?

[StamatisX]

In terms of performance the X7200 still beats the M18x but it would take 2 PSUs in parallel and a desktop CPU (poor battery life), plus the design needs improvements... so overall I prefer the M18x

[LVNeptune]

Beats it in what way? It uses a desktop proc, so you really can't compare them in that respect.

The M18x will have a 120hz panel which to me is SUPER important, even without 3D 120hz looks SO MUCH BETTER!

More GPU options on the CLEVO but the 6970 and 460m are on the m18x and possibly the 485m.

[StamatisX]

It is still a laptop though (even if it uses a desktop CPU) so we can compare the most powerful laptop offered by Clevo vs the most powerful laptop offered by Dellienware.

[Brian]

Beats it in what way? It uses a desktop proc, so you really can't compare them in that respect.

The M18x will have a 120hz panel which to me is SUPER important, even without 3D 120hz looks SO MUCH BETTER!

More GPU options on the CLEVO but the 6970 and 460m are on the m18x and possibly the 485m.

Where did you hear about the 120 hz panel? This isn't the case afaik.

[mw86]

I would go for the Alienware because I'm a fan for life now! But I would love a I7 990x in a laptop... believe me I would find uses for all 12 threads.

[mw86]

Xotic PC allows x7200 np7280 to be configured with a total of 4 hard drives if you opt to have one in place of you dvd drive. 4 ssd in raid 0 could equal some nice numbers.

[freedomofthedarkendheart]

Yeah but how many really hard drives you need what are you going to do run quad ssd's like in your R2 4 256 ssd's lol, yeah i would so something for that. I would also find a way to use up all those threads also i totally agree play ton's of games while running virtual machines. It does need some improvement and their prices have always been pretty high but it's top of the line equipment. Weight isn't that bad though. It times for a backlit keyboard nice they are offering a matte screen now that's what i have always liked about Clevo though if i really save up my money i would buy one someday and a M18x comparisons! I hope dell comes out with a non 3D 120HZ panel.

[StamatisX]

If only Clevo could hire a few good designers and improve their products aesthetically and quality wise... They still look like my D870P (back in 2004...)

Their cooling and performance is remarkable but the rest...

[mw86]

Yeah but how many really hard drives you need what are you going to do run quad ssd's like in your R2 4 256 ssd's lol, yeah i would so something for that. I would also find a way to use up all those threads also i totally agree play ton's of games while running virtual machines. It does need some improvement and their prices have always been pretty high but it's top of the line equipment. Weight isn't that bad though. It times for a backlit keyboard nice they are offering a matte screen now that's what i have always liked about Clevo though if i really save up my money i would buy one someday and a M18x comparisons! I hope dell comes out with a non 3D 120HZ panel.

Right on, my R2 has 2 250gb ssd drives in raid 0, lol I wish I had 4 of them that would be crazy.

So maybe we just need Alienware to jump on the laptop w/ desktop cpu config... M18x w/990X 6core 12 thread 32nm fabrication processor.

[StamatisX]

it wouldn't be portable, a 30min battery life, plus you would need 2 power bricks to carry around... moreover an unlocked 2920xm with cooling mods can come close in performance

[mw86]

it wouldn't be portable, a 30min battery life, plus you would need 2 power bricks to carry around... moreover an unlocked 2920xm with cooling mods can come close in performance

True no one wants to lug a bunch of bricks around. I know... the 2920xm has gotten great reviews beating 980x in a lot of benches. They could try to be more creative with throttle stop we can fine tune powersavings and when not using it for extreme processing we could easily have a profile to bring it into lower clocks we would see on a 2920xm or lower notebook processors giving it better battery life. Dell could do something similar but I don't see it ever getting past the drawing board. So that leaves the 2920 as a very fast processor that saves energy for us so we see longer battery lives.

[StamatisX]

Another problem is the cooling... you need a heatsink with copper half the size of the laptop to keep an overclocked 990x cool enough...

[Brian]

And the power the 990x consumes is much higher than mobile sb.

[StamatisX]

Oh yeah, more than half the power of the PSU would go to the CPU only... even with our mobile CPUs when we use throttle stop you can see TDP of 100+...

[mw86]

So tends to say 2920XM bests the 990X.

[Jimbo]

With the M18x still 1+ months away, I'm waiting for any info on the rumoured p180hm. I almost bought an X7200 about 4-5 weeks ago, so glad now that I held back.

Right at the moment, It'd be a simple decision for me -

M18X

Backlit keyboard

2 1/2hrs + battery life

Single power brick

International warranty

Four row numpad

Aluminium shell

Macro keys

Less weight

HDMI in

X7200

Faster potential CPU

??????

Just my 2c

[Brian]

X7200 has nothing on M18x IMO unless you need the X7200's 990x CPU for development work. The extra cores would then be useful I suppose but at that rate, I'd rather just build a light weight HTPC. The P180HM, that's their 17" version with 3D + 485M right? Seems like a decent system and will force Alienware to step up the M17x-R3 with a 485M option as well. For the M18x, the 485M isn't very important since there is no 3D screen offered on the M18x. Oh yeah, you left out battery life, M18x gets 3:30+ while X7200 gets about 15-20 minutes lol!

[mw86]

So X7200 is a desktop computer you can move easier (no battery life mean not a true laptop) and the M18x is a beast of a laptop (has similar performance of the X7200 and it actually has good battery life).

[Jimbo]

AFAIK the P180HM Should be sandy based dual GPU, similar to m18x. Also the long asked for backlit keyboard. The P170 is the one with single 485.

[Brian]

AFAIK the P180HM Should be sandy based dual GPU, similar to m18x. Also the long asked for backlit keyboard. The P170 is the one with single 485.

Ah ok so the P180HM is the X8100 replacement. Well if they kept the shape the same but just added a backlit kb with no IGP support, it'll still play second fiddle to AW.

[mw86]

True in performance there is real competition but seems in battery life the M18x will be a real contender.

[KillerBunny]

Battery life, build quality, pretty lights, warranty-m18x

slight cpu edge (907x-990x), slight gpu edge (capable of both 6970CF and 485m) and PRICE-->clevo x7200

[mw86]

Killerbunny yes those points are right on, the Clevo also has a Sandybridge model that can compare better given it has a 2920XM as an option at around *$800 something and Dell's is $900 something. So the GT485M is also for sale for a Clevo and Dell had left that SLi setup out. Config for Dell M18x w/ 2920XM, (2) 250gb ssd in raid 0 and 6970M Xfire was pushing $5500+. The Clevo with all the same config came to about $4,300 minus the inch or so on the screen size... If I had cash and not credit on a Dell preffered account I would pick the Clevo with 485M SLi for less cost than the M18x.

[mw86]

Yeah but how many really hard drives you need what are you going to do run quad ssd's like in your R2 4 256 ssd's lol, yeah i would so something for that. I would also find a way to use up all those threads also i totally agree play ton's of games while running virtual machines. It does need some improvement and their prices have always been pretty high but it's top of the line equipment. Weight isn't that bad though. It times for a backlit keyboard nice they are offering a matte screen now that's what i have always liked about Clevo though if i really save up my money i would buy one someday and a M18x comparisons! I hope dell comes out with a non 3D 120HZ panel.

I had 2 250gb ssd drives in my R2 totaling 500gb of hard drive space in raid 0... lol 4 hard drives would be awesome in an R2.