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Share a mod from other man with you guys , Ultrabay Adaptor & Sata3 box.
Finally, it can be locked in, and won't be plug out by accident anymore.
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Hello Everyone, haven't been to this topic for a long time, glad to see that @gerald is still manufacturing this adapter.
Someone who bought this adapter with me together modded this adapter, and found that after a little modding, this adapter can work with ALL version BIOS on Y410p/Y510p with an AMD card.
He tells me that , as the following pic shows, replace the 102 Chip Resistor with a 1002 Chip Resistor, that means changing the 1KΩ to 10KΩ(He mentioned that 10KΩ~100KΩ is OK for it).
And then, ALL version BIOS on Y410p/Y510p works fine, No more BlackScreen Hanging, No more Unauthorized 2nd GPU balabala……
What's more, after this modding, a Y410p/Y510p can also enter the system with an nvidia card, but it shutdown immediately after 40 seconds, just like my Y500.(I mentioned the 40s shutdown issue on my Y500 in this topic long time ago). So after this modding, it seems that both Y410p/Y510P and Y400/Y500 has the same symptom with an Nvidia Card, 40s shutdown.
So, since it shutdowns itself , it seems that it is not a BIOS issue, but a EC issue.
After flashing the Y430p'EC together a Y410P's BIOS, his motherboard died. And he has to replace a new EC chip to bring his motherboard back to life.
He said this is the EC chip on motherboard.
So, still got nothing to deal with the 40s shutdowns issue on Y410p/Y510p with Nvidia Cards.(Nvidia & AMD Cards on Y400/Y500)
As The following pic shows, now it shows a Microsoft basic graphics card with an yellow exclamation on Y410p with an Geforce 620 on a modded adapter.
And he tells me that whether mod it or not, Windows 10 is not necessary for the adapter. He said that Windows 7 8 8.1 also works with it.
And as for PSU, I think ensure its 6/8pins 12V power is enough for the graphics card is enough. You don't need a 600W+ PSU. I only know one person who got PSU issue for this adapter, and he bought a PSU at 50 RMB(7.5USD) including shipment fee.
@gerald Any idea with these Chip Resistors?
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On 1/1/2017 at 9:17 PM, Brian said:
You can get that program from here:
I think that egpu only effect in something like "bootloader", which will affect the system start up args. And it effects right after the BIOS POST, and it can't affect the BIOS, am i right?
Any idea of the Y500's 40secs shutdown? It shuts down even in BIOS menu, I think at that time only BIOS has started(things in ROM chip), and nothing in the disk drive can affect this.
Will something like EXP-GDC's "0s""7s""15s" delay options affect on this issue?
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On 2016/12/20 at 2:06 AM, Tesla said:
@skavi mine isn't very loose yet it is not that firm either. I add pieces of foam beneath it for some extra support and adjusted the screws in a way that suits my desk.
@David 'SOAP' Washington @rusTORK I came across this topic and i think it worth giving it a try on y500. it is a step by step guide on PCI pass-through to a VM while running linux.
forum.level1techs.com/t/gta-v-on-linux-skylake-build-hardware-vm-passthrough/87440
I didn't finish reading the guide, but at the first sight I saw the "PCI pass-through", I think it needs VT-d, and after a roughly reading of it, I proved my thought.
My i7-3630qm does support VT-d, so, you know, still a dead end.
And, as it shutdown even in BIOS menu. I don't think this VM things can solve it.I think that a VT-d PCI pass-through tech also effects after the BIOS POST. It can't part the pci-e lane from the BIOS when POST.
I have a ExpressCard version EXP-GDC adaptor. It has a hardware switch on it which has the options "0s","7s","15s". I think it works as a start up delay timer.On my T430s(QM77 chip), it works on the "0s" option, first time power on after I plugin the EXP-GDC, laptop will shut down immediately and then auto power on again in 2~3secs. And then everything works well.
On another older laptop(945 chip), it stays blackscreen on "0s", but it will work well when I switch it to "15s".
Any idea about this kind of things? How does this effect when BIOS starts up? May be we need a 40s delay on Y500?
I tried to power on the laptop without plug the PSU for e-GPU, and then set to sleep mode, then plug the PSU, then wake up the laptop.
In this case, My Y500 Will shut down right after I wake up it, and auto power on in 3s, and shutdown, and power on, stuck in this loop until I plugout PSU of the e-gpu.
What will it happen to your Y510P when you start up without plugin the PSU of e-gpu, and then sleep it and plugin the PSU and wake up? Have you tried this thing on a Nvidia card?
Black screen? Shutdown & Power on loop? Or system just unrecognized the nvidia card but woke up normally?
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https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/sli-with-different-cards.158907/
Recently I found this Hack Tech, It's been started for a long time but I just found it by chance.
Even though it seems to be end supported a few month ago and it's not suit for the newest Nvidia drivers.
Its existence means that:
"DifferentSLIAuto is a small, free tool that allows you to pair together different GPUs of similar generation/architecture to work together in SLI*
It can also enable SLI on some non SLI/Crossfire compatible motherboards, making it a replacement for the now discontinued HyperSLI program**"These things can be done with a Driver MOD on software level, or by using VT-x.
So I think it means that the Hardware SLI part on Ultrabay is not the reason which kill our Ultrabay adaptor.
If the BIOS passed POST, Y500 & Y510P should can be SLI GT 650 with GT 750/755 by using this DifferentSLIAuto progrom.
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3 hours ago, Ratou11 said:
Do you think it would be possible to use the SSD's M.2 pcie slot for a GPU instead of the wifi's x1 pcie lane? I want to use a 3.0 GPU (Rx 470), but I fear the x1 pcie will be too much of a bottleneck.
I could buy the Ultrabay adapter but I'd like to buy something that could be used on other laptops also....https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=529434284683
I think you mean this, it's M.2 M key=>X4(20G/S), and it needs M.2 nvme support.
It‘s alreadly existed.
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@rusTORK As u have flashed the SLV7's mod, u shoulda got a Rom File of your own BIOS.
Have u ever tried to find out whether a GT650M's Hardware ID can be found in the ROM's Hex Value in the way I metioned before? I think I described the method clearly with pics.
If it can be found, I think we still have a chance to have a try. In this case we will need a chip programer which can backup/recover the whole BIOS chip in case that the mod failed, also need the tools to remove the BIOS chip off the motherborad. Considering is it worth to make a try for modding in that way is what should do next.
What worse, maybe it doesn't exist any Graphics Card's ID explicitly in the Hex Value. In this way, at lest I have got outta options. I don't have any other thing can be tried. Maybe it's time for Y500 users to considering sell the Y500's motherborad and buy a Y510p's one to replace it.(Also, CPU and a lot of things need to be replaced in the same time).
But as for me, I don't wanna replace it. I'd rather wait a few more month for i7-7700K & z270, they should be announced offically during CES2017, buy a desktop and retire this Y500 once for all. Cuz my Y500's weight and its 170W AC adaptor made it just as inconvenient as a desktop to move, I used it just like a desktop for years.
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On 2016/11/16 at 3:39 AM, rusTORK said:
O.K., small update.
Everything is connected (Ultrabay adapter, Radeon X700, PSU, External Monitor) - result - System is shutdown power.
It's shutdown when i am in Windows, when at system recovery mode (F8) and when i am at BIOS.
There is no any errors in Event Viewer (system).
So, standard BIOS v2.04 (and EC v2.04) without MODs isn't working.
INFO from Device Manager:
It's also mention that "Starting driver don't match with video driver which pass POST verification" (or something like that).
I think POST verification is at BIOS side.
The same symptom as mine. A 40secs deadline countdown.
Code 31 means that "This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.", according to Microsoft.
I think that you have pre-installed an AMD driver before you ADD the graphics card(I don't think that you can install one within 40secs), and as you metioned before, i'd rather call your AMD card an "ancient" one. So a nowadays driver may not suit for your ancient card.
When I tried the Geforce 210 on a desktop, I have to downgrade to an older version Nvidia driver to use it. You said that you've tried your ancient AMD card on a desktop too. Did you pre-install the same version driver on your Y500 which used on the desktop?
If you didn't, plz try it again just in case. I wanna check that whether the Windows behaved normally or not, and is it just a 40secs shutdown without any other error.
And what device did you successfully add on it without shutting down again???
We haven't managed to test an Official 1.05 BIOS for it, because we did make a successfully flashback to 1.05 as I metioned before. Do you have any other 1.05 rom to make a try? Maybe the old version will works with it.
What's more, I think that you will backup your BIOS out in a ROM file after all (as you said that you gonna try SLV's BIOS, and the first step of that is backup BIOS into ROM file), would you like to try to find out whether the onborad nvidia card's hardware ID can be found in the BIOS hex value or not??? I'm on a business trip these days, I didn't carry my Y500 with me, it's too heavy for a business trip, I carried my T430s instead.
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13 hours ago, skavi said:
Can anyone see if the software, "Lucid Virtu," allows for use of the internal monitor with AMD cards? It seems to be a platform agnostic version of Optimus. According to this datasheet, Virtu allows for output of the GPU to go through the main display output, rather than through the GPU outputs. Thanks for any confirmation.
Virtu's Flow - Found in this Anandtech Article with a lot more info
Unfortunately, Mine is a Y500. I do wanna help you to try it, but I can't even use this adaptor myself.
Here is the schematic of Y510 you asked for in attachment. It doesn't said Y510p, but I think it's the same one. Hope this will help you.
And a schematic of Y500 in RAR file
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So, is there anybody got this adapter worked with a graphics card on Y400/Y500?
Still got Y410p/Y510p only.
@rusTORK Any updates?
BTW, what Bios version is it on you laptop?
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On 11/1/2016 at 6:52 PM, rusTORK said:
I think we should stay focus on BIOS (and last version one). Since there was whitelist on WLAN - there probably whitelist on eGPU (GT 650m and GT 750m).
Yeah, it's possible (i think) to flash wrong data in GTX 1060 (and allow Y500 to see it as GT 650m), but if it will work - we need to swap all the settings from NVIDIA drivers from GTX 1060 to GT 650m.
And do it every time NVIDIA update drivers. It's wrong way on my opinion. Need to dig deeply in Y500 BIOS. Find exact problem and find people to solve it. svl7 did good, but if he can't help us anymore - we have to find someone who can.
We got the same opinion.
I think modding the BIOS is the correct way to cut the trouble head once for all too.
I searched for the whitelist removing methods for changing WiFi card recently, and I noticed that when people trying to remove the WhiteList limited to change Wi-Fi cards, both SLV7's Modded BIOS and the way which delete the whole whitelist module directly(I think slv7 also deleted it in the same way by deleting the whole module) will cause a trouble with BlueTooth function on WiFi card. You can find report for this issue in SLV7's "Lenovo Y400 / Y500 - unlocked BIOS / wlan whitelist mod" topic comment. So even delete the whole module of it is not a perfect solution for the WIFI changing.
But, I also found that others reported that just Find Hex Value of your original WiFi card's Device ID in your own BIOS ROM with WinHex and modify it to the target WiFi card's will solve the issue perfectly. No trouble with Bluetooth function.
What's more, I find that removing the mini pci-e whitelist is not necessary if you just want to use the EXP GDC to conncet to a graphics card but not connecting another WiFi card.
So I think that the whitelist on mini pci-e interface is targeted to WIFI cards, and of couse, it's a whitelist, not blacklist.
Maybe it's the same thing on UltraBay interface too. So that's why rusTORK said his IF adaptor(I assume it's not a Graphics Card, but I don't know what an IF adaptor refers to) can used with his Y500. But our Graphics cards cannot.
And, I heard that a non-whitelisted WIFI card can be added when the laptop slept(not shutdown), and then power on normally, and be recognized normally. Maybe recover from sleep condition doesn't go thourgh the whitelist check.
So, I asked other one to test it with ultrabay adaptor and an A-Card in the same way on a Y400.(My RX480 has been returned as I said before.) It won't 40secs shutdown, but the Graphics Card cannot be recognized. Maybe he didn't do it in a right way which I said, or maybe the Graphics Card connected like this cannot be Hot Plug at all.
If any one intersting in trying like this, maybe you can have another try.
And now I'll make a Brief Description for how did they remove the WiFi whitelist by modifying the Hex Value Device ID, but not delete the whole whitelist module:
//This is a Brief Description for WiFi whitelist removing, not tested on Ultrabay Graphics Card whitelist yet. Don't be mistaked!!!
1.Backup a ROM file of your own BIOS by using the fpt.exe(with command parameter in DOS).
2.Open the ROM file you just backuped with EzH2O.exe(select the filetype to ALL(*.*) to show .rom files in the file selection dialog)
3.Press OK button, minimize the EzH2O.exe(don't close it)
4.Open the WinHex.exe and press the OpenRAM button.
5.Find Ezh2o, and select Primary Memory, then press OK button.
6.Now you got a lot of Hex Value, press the Find Hex Value, search for your original Device ID.
For example:
Intel N 2230's is 8680880886806242.And in next pic it changed into AC7260's.
And another example for how to get the Hex Value:
As for an Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260, its Device ID is PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_08B1&SUBSYS_40708086.
!!!Rearrange the part in Red Rectangle, 2 in a group, and you got your new Hex Value!!!
It's 8680B10886807040.
7.Press the Save button in WinHex after you finished modifying it.
If you got these msg, you have to restart modifying it again from reopening the EzH2O.exe. Be Quick for the modifying.
8.Press the Save button in EzH2O.(You can reopen the rom file to check whether it modified correctly or not)
9.Flash the modified Rom File to BIOS by fpt.exe(also in dos)
10.Reboot and set the BIOS settings to Default.Here is the link to the original topic I found(in Chinese):
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3183773042//This is a Brief Description for WiFi whitelist removing, not tested on Ultrabay Graphics Card whitelist yet. Don't be mistaked!!!
@Heterodyne @Tesla @everyone
Is it OK to try the same way in Graphics Card Device ID too?
Will it change the onboard d-gpu's ID just because the main d-gpu's VBISO is also in BIOS chip?
Will the VBIOS backup together with the BIOS in ROM File by fpt.exe?
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Nvidia Geforce 210 which is PCI-e 2.0 only and definitely no SLI supported outdated graphics card confirmed not working with my Y500 v2.04.
And this time I used a stopwatch app on my phone. 40 secs death countdown with no Tolerance, this must be malicious.
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On 2016/10/28 at 6:53 PM, rusTORK said:
I have got plans to sell 2nd VGA after i test Gerald adapter and confirm it's working fine for me. So, i would like to don't disassmble 2nd VGA. =)
Not yet and it will take LONG. I am ordered part i need on eBay and seller give me tracking number, but i can't get any data from tracking system.
Parcel sent from China by ePacket to Russia. Tracking type is LQxxxxxxxxxCN.
Also, i don't have any Radeon card yet. In fact i don't know what to choose RX 470 or RX 480? I am sure IF adapter will work - it will work as PCI-E v2.0 and not 3.0. So, maybe there is no real reason to pay more for performance of RX 480 which i will not really see? And another problem for me it's choose between 4096 Mb or 8192 Mb on board.
So, i am stuck now and waiting for news from tracking system and thinking about which card i should get.
Good thing is - i can take pictures of my disassembled Lenovo Y500. =)))) So youd don't need to disassemble it.
Man, as what I said, all of five of our Y400/Y500s failed on 2.02 2.03 2.04 BIOS, I personally strongly recommend you borrow a Radeon card to test it before you buy one(unless you can return the one you buy). I have already return mine.
And, to be honest, I did't findout what a IF adapter refers to. Can you tell me what's the full name of it? But it sounds like not a graphics card. Maybe this difference caused you can start it up.And we also noticed that both 2nd 650M and 750M can only work as v2.0 x8 on Y400/Y500 (But it works as 3.0 on Y410p/Y510p), as the other one among us has already point it out in this topic.
The 3rd gen of Intel core i CPU should support for PCI-e 3.0 and of couse the GT650M too. And the GPU is linked to CPU directly. So it is unreasonable for it, it doesn't make a sence.
But what's interesting is that it shows 3.0x8 once you uninstall the driver of it. So I think Nvidia's driver causes it.
So can you make sure your IF adaptor(whatever it is) support for PCI-e 3.0? And can you recheck what shows once you uninstall the driver of it, 2.0 or 3.0.
According to what you said, I'll borrow a GT210 which only support 2.0 to make a try for luck tomorrow(I got no where to borrow an AMD card which support 2.0 only). And then, maybe I'll buy a PIC-e to SATA3 convert adaptor and plug a SATA3 SSD on it to make another try(Or sth like this which is not a graphics card and can be checked whether it is functional or not). To see does a non-graphics card work with the adaptor on Y500.
Don't forget to repost once your laptop repired.PS: I choosed a Sapphire RX480 8G OC. According to a Thunderbolt3 is 3.0x4(==2.0x8), so even thought Y500 can only work with 2.0, it is enough for it. And the new RX470d gets the best price-quality ratio ever.
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On 2016/10/28 at 4:34 PM, Tesla said:
@David 'SOAP' Washington Heterodyne's y510p is different than ours (Manystrongwords, Gerald and me). Now as for the 3.05 bios (model of y510p w/pcie3.0), I already checked it extensively before -with slv7 mod and without- and in both cases it gave me an error msg "remove the adapter...blah bla". I tried to mess with the advanced display settings in slv7 mod and I almost bricked my y510p (in fact I completely bricked it by setting the display to the external pcie lol) but was able to restore it back thanks to team viewer, I was able to reflash older version remotely.
I tried the version 1.05 and it didn't not work. Now for the slv7 mod on 2.07/2.04 that will help you out if you've replaced your wifi card. and that is what im running at the mean time (2.07 slv7) but the whitelist has nothing to do with the external graphics card.
I don't encourage you to mess with the bios a lot as it can be bricked. If you really want to, then at least buy some spare bios chips in case something goes wrong.
I've confirmed for the y510p that both 2.04 and 2.07 work well with the adapter.
@Tesla You mean that you reflashed a BIOS remotely? Interesting. What kind of remote? Any Guide link for this? I want to take a look on it in case some day I need it.
I only know this laptop can Blind Flash by Press Fn+R with a usb flash disk(I need the laptop can power up and read the USB Flash Driver).
As you say, The two 3.05 succeed laptop are diff from others but no one can tell cause. What makes the difference is still a mystery.
And, also some update for today, whick I think it breaked your confirm. Another Y410p failed on 2.07BIOS & 2.07EC, it hangs blackscreen and won't POST. And it gave error msg "Unauthorized Slave VGA Card is plugged in, Power off and remove it" on 3.05BIOS & 3.05EC. Lucky it works well on 1.05BIOS & 1.05EC.
And the BIOS File this Y410p flashed is the same one which a Y510p flashed and confirmed it worked with the adaptor well.
And what's more, it blackscreens once you plug the adaptor on but without any device on the adaptor. (It starts up normally without the adaptor)
As you know the Y410p flashes with the same ROM as Y510p, so I think there's no 100% confirm on 2.07 by now, now it seems to depend on luck.(2.04 not been tested cuz we got nowhere to find a 2.04 ROM, could you gave me a link to download for a test on it?)
Meanwhile, we got another problem. Two of Y400 blackscreened after flash back to 1.05. This time the blackscreen means they won't POST WithOut the adaptor, it can't POST itself.
So the 1.05 on Y400 haven't been test yet.
This is definitely a failed flash back. But the BIOS FILE named like an offical one and it has the same UI. It should works well but not. Do you know anywhere to download a 1.05 for Y400/Y500 more reliable?
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@others
Thanks at first, and I'm here again with both good news and, of couse, bad news.
The good news is that both two Y510p we got works just fine with A-Card(still doesn't get any N-Card or other pci-e device to make a further test on them), 2.07 and even 3.05! And they tell me that the 3.05 even have an option to disable the D-GPU in the BIOS which will stop windows to recognize the D-GPU at all, and this can avoid a I-Display "screen freeze bug" when rebooting the windows.Of couse, the bad news is that all of the Y400/500s failed including mine. Most of us have a Y400/500, that means only two mentioned above succeed.
We tested it on 3 different version BIOS Y400/500s, 2.02, 2.03 and 2.04. All of them got the same symptoms jusk like I mentioned before, the "30~40 secs shutdown". No matter what you do, the deadline countdown starts at the time once you pressed down the power button(Soft Reboots at windows 10 blue screen menu doesn't reset the countdown).
@Tesla So by now, there's two of 3.05 Y510p succeed(including Heterodyne's). Are you interested in rechecking why 3.05 doesn't works on your laptop again? Maybe you can get the real point meanwhile and help us. Or any advice for us? Is it the only way that we have to flash every version BIOS to make a try? As official version 2.02~2.04 failed, the only left and what we can find is 1.05. Does SLV7's crack BIOS 2.02~2.04 worth an additional try? Or any advice for avoiding bricking the laptop during flashing? Did you flash them under DOS or exe in windows or even chip programer directly?
And as for 3.05 is now MAY work but not CANNOT work and @Heterodyne said that it seems nothing to deal with the whitelist in BIOS, are we started at a wrong direction? What does EC effect in the whole system?
Heterodyne seems to be the only one among us who is experienced in modding BIOS level, @Heterodyne according to what you know, what else do you think can cause this shutdown if it is not the BIOS itself at all? EC, Thermal Sensor or anything else? Or we just not findout what tricks have Lenovo done yet. Which is more reasonable? Could you make a whitelist removed BIOS for Y400/Y500 for us to make a try? It seems OK for a Chinese version laptop motherboard to flash a worldwide version BIOS after one of us tried to do so and succeed on Y510p(2.07).
One of us findout that the Y500 circuit diagram maybe a little different from Y510p?(See below)(Only thoughts cuz we are not professional)
Are these two chip resistor the things circled in the circuit diagram? Did them have to be removed to adapt a Y500? And what other chip resistors designed on PCB are used for? Did they missed or have to be removed for a Y500?If you can take some time to recheck the differences between the Y500 and Y510p in circuit diagram to make a sure that is this PCB design suitable for a Y500 or not, would be very nice.
I know that this adaptor isn't designed for a Y500 at a very begining and you never guaranteed that it works well on a Y400/500, but we do need your help now too.
@rusTORK Have you repired your laptop yet? I missed you so well.
So, the point now in brief is that this adaptor may not suitable for a Y400/500.
I may a little experienced about knowing what does windows or others software should be, or may be able to flash BIOS to an existed BIOS ROM, but as for a hardware error or BIOS level issue, I'd rather say that I'm a totally noob or even can't say I'm a noob cuz I have no idea about them, it's far more beyond my knowledge. By now the only thing I can do may just guess and try blindly.
Anyone who's more experienced plz help.
(I got more than 30 users who is interested in this adaptor gathered in an instant messaging group chat by now, more than 2/3 of us have a Y400/500. The older model Y400/500 goes out of date first, and the users are more eager to update it, isn't it. And most users of Lenovo is in china, isn't. Got crowds to be saved.)
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9 minutes ago, Heterodyne said:
The smaller screen is the external one, it's and old 4:3 monitor I had lying around. I had to disable the igpu because every program kept using it instead of the AMD gpu. The internal screen works even if I disable the igpu, but that just the matter of how ju set up multiple displays. With igpu disabled the internal screen works as a secondary screen.
No, with AMD gpu I didn't encounter any problem, it even works for me with 3.05 bios, it was plug and play basically. Only NVIDIA cards aren't working, which has nothing to with the whitelist, and I am sure I removed it because its similar to the wlan/wifi whitelist, and it doesn't boot into windows, with 2.07 it reboots with 30sec intervals and with 3.05 it just hangs.
It means that you haven't hear the windows start up sound both in 30 secs reboot and hangs condition? This Y-series even doesn't have a HDD LED.
So, any idea or thoughts of what caused the 30 sec shutdown? It's not a BIOS issue? Can yours read out the E-GPU's temp and fan speed? Or do you have any other non-graphics card to have a try?
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On 2016/10/24 at 5:40 PM, Heterodyne said:
Well, I come bearing news.
So, I finally had the time to run some tests with both AMD and NVIDIA cards.
All test were under a clean Win10.
1,) With the Ultrabay whitelist removed i got the same results like with it. On 2.07 i got 30 sec reboots with black screen, on 3.05 hangs on boot with black screen. So far the whitelist is not the problem why NVIDIA cards doesn't work.
2,) For some reason the AMD card works for me on 3.05 slv7 version no problem (see screenshot), but I had to disable both the 750m and the Intel igpu, and I didn't got any 5-10 min black screens either.
As you can see on the screenshot all gpu disabled except AMD on 3.05 slv7 bios.
Hi, According to your screenshot, it seems to be two different resolution display. Is the smaller one the Integrated Display and the bigger one the e-display?
Does the integrated display work eventhough disabled the integrated graphics card?
What happens when you didn't disable them? Hangs on boot? 30sec reboot? or 30 sec shutdown like mine?
Did you open the start up sound in windows settings? Could you plz recheck the windows start up sound to make sure does your laptop really hangs on boot or it just did't display any thing on the dispaly? And also recheck has windows started before 30 sec reboot?
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And, one more Question for Any other users who succeed to start up normally, can your laptop read out the E-GPU's temp and fan speed? Does this the reason? I cannot find out any other reasonable things can shutdown the laptop like this. Or Lenovo DO did some tricks to detect the e-gpu and shutdown deliberately......What about other PCI-e devices? PCI-e SSD, network adaptor, or etc? Did them cause the trouble?
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6 hours ago, Tesla said:
I just want to know something for sure, Does it cut the power when you say "shutdown" or the Windows shuts down regularly?
I had a similar symptoms when I tried the nvidia cards on my y510p but with a black screen and laptop failed to post.
unfortunately i dont have a Y500 to test on but I can imagine it could be either a bios thing or more probably some kind of a protection circuit that is kicking on.
Unfortunately, it cuts the power, as I said so, it even shutdown when I kept staying in Novo Button Menu without doing anything. At that time, windows or any other System/Software Level program should not started yet.
So, it must be something on Firmware Level caused shutdown in 30s. And within 30s, everything seems to be alright, windows recognized a basic microsoft video adaptor and also one more display, this is what it should be without installing a driver for the graphic card, isn't it?
So all I can do at this time is waiting for others to try it on different version BIOS until someone findout a useful version?
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On 2016/10/23 at 10:20 PM, rusTORK said:
I finally got Adapter from Gerald at Friday on this week!
But week BEFORE (or so) i am cleaned CPU cooler and damaged flex cabel from power button board to motherboard. So, i am waiting now for replacement part...
Also, CPU cooler started to wobble a lot and give very noticable vibration to entire notebook - i think i will replace CPU cooler too.
P.S. I am inserted adapter in disassembled notebook and... it's a bit wobble too. No strong fix inside. Maybe someone integrated adapter in 2nd VGA shell? Or maybe custom shell with Ultrabay lock? That will be nice MOD!
Here is braket only:
$20 for it, seriously? We can buy one at ￥20. Just use the same one on your 2nd graphic card is fine, it can be token apart from the 2nd graphic card. Or get a HDD adaptor on UltraBay and make some DIY to stable this PCB is fine too.
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Alright, mine adaptor has arrived yesterday and a new AMD RX480 arrived today. So I test it these days with two Nvidia cards and one AMD card, unfortunately ALL of them failed on my Y500(official V2.04 BIOS).
But it has a totally different failure behavior on my laptop. I can even get into desktop after entering the passcode, and it shutdown itself after about 30~40sec after I power on.
It totally cut down the power immediately just like what a computer acts when CPU overheating(definitely mine is not overheated at the time).
And I tried my best to open the device manager and took a pic of it before it shut down itself.
It recognized a basic microsoft video adaptor with an Exclamation, and I also succeed to get the detail info was "This device has no driver", but I have no time to take a photo before it shut down.
Then, I plug out the PSU power, and surely the laptop started normally, so I checked the hidden device, I can find the graphic card and the monitor.
So, It means that everything is OK before the shutdown.
Then I check it several times in different condictions with 3 different cards, not enter the passcode, windows blue screen recovery menu, and finally the NOVO menu(press the small button with an arrow icon beside the power).
In ALL condictions it shutdown itself automatically after 30~40secs after I power on.
I-Display works and E-Display blackscreen(but the monitor is not in standby condition, the monitor got the signal to keep power on until the laptop shutdown).
So did I get another kind of 30secs reboot issue(But mine is shutdown)? And my I-Display works because Y500 doesn't have a i-gpu enable at all and connnet the I-Display to d-gpu directly?
Because of the novo button menu also shutdown automatically, I think that it must come from the firmware level but not system level or software level.
@Heterodyne , Do you sure for successfully removing the blacklist? Is this different behavior useful for you to find out the trouble head?
@rusTORK , you got the very same version Y500(the only difference is mine is a chinese version), plz check out whether yours works well or not and repost it soon, thanks.
And Other chinese users will get the adaptors tomorrow, they will check it on v2.02, v2.03 Y4/500 and v2.07 Y4/510p soon, and I will repost soon after I got the results from them.
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1 minute ago, Heterodyne said:
I have the igpu enabled version.
Yes I deleted it, I got an email from gerald on the weekend, the adapter probably arrives this week, so I can test myself.
Congratulations, and can help waiting for your triumphant news.
Mine is also on the way, but it doesn't update the Delivery status for days since it started to ship out. I think I may have to wait for weeks, Damn.
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11 hours ago, octiceps said:
All versions of the Y510p/Y410p had iGPU enabled if you removed the SLI GPU from the Ultrabay (since Optimus is incompatible with SLI). The Y500/Y400 had iGPU disabled no matter what.
What I heard is that all Y410p/Y510p sold in worldwide market had iGPU enabled, the iGPU disabled version only sold in china mainland.
I just want to know which version does this mod base on exactly, so I can ask other users I know who has the correct version of laptop whether he/she wants to have a try or not.
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On 2016/10/4 at 4:04 PM, Heterodyne said:Hello everyone!
So I been working on the ultrabay whitelist removal, and I need some testers who can try it out. The bios flashes without a problem, but without an adapter I'm not able test that it works or not. So I need some volunteers who have an adaper and an NVIDA card.
Here is the 2.07 rom with ultrabay whitelist modified: https://mega.nz/#!dp81HA7b!owk4YHjE5_VIlVZu4aWNTDn0xnAfVEs0EbRVXFjbNKs
This is for the Gt750m version.
This rom doesn't have the wlan whitelist removed, so you should unplug it if you have a non-factory wlan card.
If you are on 3.05 or higher do a rollback to 2.07 with the official updater and flash the rom.
Make a backup before flashing just in case.
If you willing to test, please post here the following:
1. Operation system
2. What GPU you used
3. if you encounter something like reboot, black screen, etc.
Thank you!
And, I just found that the ROM FILE is no longer available on MEGA, anything wrong with it?
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On 2016/10/5 at 8:59 PM, Heterodyne said:
Well, I would test myself, but I dont have an adapter yet ( ordered form the second batch, delivery is probably still a month away), thats why I posted it so users can help me testing it the meantime.
Like I said I flashed it myself, so I didn't posted something that can brick the laptop. The y500 bios probably can be modifed too, but until I know how to make it work on the y510p I cant really promise anything.
I advise not to get your hopes up, while I try to do my best, it could still be impossible for me to make it work with an NV gpu.
Flasing a ROM is not without danger, there is always a possibility of bricking the system. The modified bios is just for testing, so you should only use it if you can recover in case of failure.
Yeap, I just wanna mention the differences, and make sure others who wanna test it don't make a mistake.
I also heard that there's even two version of Y410p/510p??? The elder version disabled integrated gpu just like Y400/Y500, and the newer version enabled it.
So, which version does your Mod based on? The official 2.07 US version of Y410p/Y510p with the igpu enabled?
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On 2016/10/4 at 4:04 PM, Heterodyne said:
Hello everyone!
So I been working on the ultrabay whitelist removal, and I need some testers who can try it out. The bios flashes without a problem, but without an adapter I'm not able test that it works or not. So I need some volunteers who have an adaper and an NVIDA card.
Here is the 2.07 rom with ultrabay whitelist modified: https://mega.nz/#!dp81HA7b!owk4YHjE5_VIlVZu4aWNTDn0xnAfVEs0EbRVXFjbNKs
This is for the Gt750m version.
This rom doesn't have the wlan whitelist removed, so you should unplug it if you have a non-factory wlan card.
If you are on 3.05 or higher do a rollback to 2.07 with the official updater and flash the rom.
Make a backup before flashing just in case.
If you willing to test, please post here the following:
1. Operation system
2. What GPU you used
3. if you encounter something like reboot, black screen, etc.
Thank you!
Bravo man, I have a Y500 with GT650m SLI and 2.04 BIOS, is there any possible to make a mod for this if your BIOS mod works with Y510p GT750m SLI and 2.07 BIOS?
And my laptop is a Chinese one, I do believe Chinese version and US/Worldwide have different Windows Activation Infomation in the BIOS/UEFI, cuz Chinese version laptop can only activate a special version of Windows for China Mainland. And it won't activate the worldwide version windows. Any idea to solve this?
And what's worse is that I'm not sure does a US version based BIOS/UEFI mod can works with a Chinese version laptop or not.
Once my friend and I bought two same US version ThinkPad T430s, I updated BIOS/UEFI with an official tool downloaded on the US officail website, and it works well.
But my friend forgot his laptop is an US version one, and update it with an offical tool downloaded on the Chinese official website, and his laptop turned into a brick(that means unable to power up at all or unable to start up the BIOS/UEFI correctly and reboot automatically) after the update.
As for both ThinkPad and IdeaPad Y-serise are Lenovo's product, you know what I mean.I noticed that your file updated is a ROM file. I think this kind of BIOS mod should be tested carefully and detailed by an experienced man who has a chip-programmer and be able to recorver the laptop from a brick status at first.
What I mean in brief is that an US/Worldwide ver.Bios and a Chinese one DO have differences in Avtivation part, and MAY have differences which can make the laptop turns into a brick when someone tries to flash a US ver. BIOS based BIOS Mod into a Chinese ver. laptop and vice versa.
Is there any possible to make a tool just like the SLV7's tool that can automatically mod the BIOS rom/bin file which the user just backuped from the Chip???
It's much safer in this way.The adaptors for me and other chinese buyers should be arrived in a week or two, some of them have the same hardware version laptop you need, and it's a Chinese ver BIOS one.
I'll ask them whether they'er willing to test your ROM file after the adaptors arrived.(BTW, why I just cannot login Tech|Inferno via my Steam account these days? I just find out it fixed up for me to login today, damn.)
Y510p Ultrabay Graphics card
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Congratulations!
So, What about Y400/Y500?