Going to test clevo 980m in alienware m17x R4, m18x R2, AW17

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

Reset the card then -> BIOS -> OC Options -> "Bus Clock" just re-apply current settings -> "apply settings immediately" -> "apply settings permanently after reboot" -> F10 -> auto-shutdown -> done.

@1252/2805 P0-P1 matched, stock v.

Then set P0 1252/2805, P1 default/stock settings.

I'm not quite sure that is a problem with that, if I disable SLI the core clocks stays as high as I set it through NVinspector.

[J95]

I'm not quite sure that is a problem with that, if I disable SLI the core clocks stays as high as I set it through NVinspector.

Did you reset the card? with SLI try lower clocks first.

[MENTION=2750]Miguel Maroto Madrid[/MENTION] BIOS settings, did you change anything...?

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

Did you reset the card? with SLI try lower clocks first.

@Miguel Maroto Madrid BIOS settings, did you change anything?

Yes I did, no luck even doing that.

I tried:

+50 MHz / +50MHz

Still 1126 MHz during all the benchmark :S

[J95]

Yes I did, no luck even doing that.

I tried:

+50 MHz / +50MHz

Still 1126 MHz during all the benchmark :S

That was my initial fix...

Find out which are the GPUs/PCI Express ports using HWiNFO or AIDA. #2 #3?

We'll try my BIOS settings then...fully disabling ASPM is counterproductive, thanks to nvidia.

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

Did you reset the card? with SLI try lower clocks first.

@Miguel Maroto Madrid BIOS settings, did you change anything...?

Here you have all my BIOS settings

Nikos BIOS - Album on Imgur

Maybe I set up something wrong.

[J95]

Here you have all my BIOS settings

Nikos BIOS - Album on Imgur

Maybe I set up something wrong.

Great, now open HWinfo and find the PCI-E ports# both GPUs

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

Great, now open HWinfo and find the PCI-E ports# both GPUs

Not sure how to check that :S

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Great, now open HWinfo and find the PCI-E ports# both GPUs

I think you are looking for this ?

BIOS option for those ports:

[J95]

Good, start disabling "Automatic ASPM" #2 #3 above.

Video Configuration:

SA DMI Configuration -> Disable DMI ASPM Control.

PCI Express Graphics -> Always enable PEG -> Enabled *disable this before switching to "SG" e.g. vbios flashing*

Other setting can cause conflicts, SLI x8

Stock vBIOS max OC...?

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

Good, start disabling "Automatic ASPM" #2 #3 above.

Video Configuration:

SA DMI Configuration -> Disable DMI ASPM Control.

PCI Express Graphics -> Always enable PEG -> Enabled *disable this before switching to "SG" e.g. vbios flashing*

Other setting can cause conflicts, SLI x8

Stock vBIOS max OC...?

+135MHz on core (but 1126MHz always) / Same memory freq

I'm going to try your settings

Meanwhile check this out

I think I have the best 3DMark FireStrike score so far (M18X-R2)!

14893

[J95]

+135MHz on core (but 1126MHz always) / Same memory freq

I'm going to try your settings

Meanwhile check this out

I think I have the best 3DMark FireStrike score so far (M18X-R2)!

14893

Now?...

These Settings will not fix this, but will reduce latency. Stable OC, thanks again to NV high DPC latency drivers.

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

Now?...

I'm going to the BIOS right now I was recording one 3DMark benchmark plus the power consumption (I will upload it to YT). 5 Minutos I'll be back

[J95]

I'm going to the BIOS right now I was recording one 3DMark benchmark plus the power consumption (I will upload it to YT). 5 Minutos I'll be back

Castellano... >Madrid<

Best scores then. After applying/F10 the settings to reset the card did the laptop shutdown?

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

Castellano... >Madrid< >>>>Barcelona! Best scores then. After applying/F10 the settings to reset the card did the laptop shutdown?

I have to go to bed right now (5.11 AM) I have to wake up "early" haha

Hope you like this video (the video is recorded before applying your BIOS settings):

if you want me to test something more, just leave it here I will ASAP tomorrow

Thank you very much for your time and for your effort.

[J95]

I have to go to bed right now (5.11 AM) I have to wake up "early" haha

Hope you like this video (the video is recorded before applying your BIOS settings):

if you want me to test something more, just leave it here I will ASAP tomorrow

Thank you very much for your time and for your effort.

No problem, we'll improve this score.

[tanzmiester]

forgot to add, to flash cards under UEFI, after many hours of waiting, priorly having the machine sleeping, one have to disable the drivers for GPU's in Device Manager only after the nvflash promt screen has appeared. if it is not disabled, the system will crash and the whole cycle has to be repeated!!!

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Miguel, can you please tell me what is your 3rd mark 11 graphic score with 980m sli?

[J95]

[MENTION=2750]Miguel Maroto Madrid[/MENTION]

Now we will improve the score 2k min..., this will allow you to OC for many hours. Reboot as many times necessary >TDRs<, shutting down will restore @1126.4 MHz OCing.

There are three ways to reset the card, simply enter the BIOS and re-apply BCLK current settings, another is using XTU to increase BCLK 'min frequency' and lastly is to install v344.75. The latter works 100%.

Please follow all the steps below.

Uninstall current driver/DDU "Clean and Shutdown" option

• Install GeForce 344.75 WHQL use this .inf nv_dispi.inf_v344.75 -> reboot.
  
• After booting to desktop/windows fully loaded -> uninstall v344.75/DDU "Clean and Restart" >NOT< shutdown option.
  
• Install GeForce 350.12 WHQL -> nv_dispi.inf_v350.12.zip -> reboot.
  
• Start OCing using P0/P1 method, gradually increase frequencies.....Push the cards to the limits... On your responsibility.
  

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

@Miguel Maroto Madrid

Now we will improve the score 2k min..., this will allow you to OC for many hours. You may reboot as many times necessary >TDRs<, shutting down will restore @1126.4 MHz OCing.

There are three ways to reset the card, simply enter the BIOS and re-apply BCLK current settings, another is using XTU to increase BCLK 'min frequency' and lastly is to install v344.75. The latter works 100%.

Please follow all the steps below.

• Uninstall current driver/DDU "Clean and Shutdown" option
  
• Install GeForce 344.75 WHQL use this .inf nv_dispi.inf_v344.75 -> reboot.
  
• After booting to desktop/windows fully loaded -> uninstall v344.75/DDU "Clean and Restart" >NOT< shutdown option.
  
• Install GeForce 350.12 WHQL -> nv_dispi.inf_v350.12.zip -> reboot.
  
• Start OCing using P0/P1 method, gradually increase frequencies.....Push the cards to the limits... On your responsibility.
  

Thanks for the ideas, but still no luck, core clocks goes down to 1126 MHz. I will try with 344.75 now and benchmark with them, lets see how it goes.

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forgot to add, to flash cards under UEFI, after many hours of waiting, priorly having the machine sleeping, one have to disable the drivers for GPU's in Device Manager only after the nvflash promt screen has appeared. if it is not disabled, the system will crash and the whole cycle has to be repeated!!!

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Miguel, can you please tell me what is your 3rd mark 11 graphic score with 980m sli?

As soon as I have a full stable system I will provide more benchmarks, including 3DMark 11. I'm using FireStrike because is fast to pass and save me a bunch of time.

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

After testing with 344.75 (+ your inf.) I'm not quite sure if it's driver related. With this drivers, I see the core trying to maintain the frequency but it always end with random core throttling (135, 500, 866 or so) but the good thing is that the core tries to be as high as possible all the time. Maybe you could apply your 350.12 fix to 344.75 drivers and I will check that for you.

350.12 seems to be the best driver so far talking about stability.

I have one more test to do, install on top 344.75 your driver but first going to the BIOS and reset the BCLK.

I will come back ASAP with more info.

[J95]

Thanks for the ideas, but still no luck, core clocks goes down to 1126 MHz. I will try with 344.75 now and benchmark with them, lets see how it goes.

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You're doing something wrong, unless it's a specific SLI issue. This always works, bclk occasionally fails but not v344.75, never. I needed a different method and found BCLK, primarily because of the pain of installing v344.75 each time.

Uninstall current driver -> Install v344.75 -> Uninstall -> Install v350.12 -> Never shutdown -> Done.

[tanzmiester]

i've got the same result in Firestrike that you did. i am running sli with slv7 hex edited bios. no random visible throttling whatsover on any driver, but seems i am running into some fps cap in 3dmark11, as it never goes higher than 120.5fps and my gpu util gets 70-80 when it hits that wall.

Thanks for the ideas, but still no luck, core clocks goes down to 1126 MHz. I will try with 344.75 now and benchmark with them, lets see how it goes.

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As soon as I have a full stable system I will provide more benchmarks, including 3DMark 11. I'm using FireStrike because is fast to pass and save me a bunch of time.

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

Your doing something wrong, unless it's a specific SLI issue. This always works, bclk occasionally fails but not v344.75, never. I needed a different method and found BCLK, primarily because of the pain of installing v344.75 each time.

Uninstall current driver -> Install v344.75 -> Uninstall -> Install v350.12 -> Never shutdown -> Done.

I think it's SLI related (maybe power related).

This is exactly what I did - (Reboot into Safe Mode -> Prior to that go into the BIOS -> Reset BCLK -> Boot -> DDU from safemode -> reboot with signature off -> install 344.75 -> Reboot -> Reboot Safe Mode -> DDU -> Reboot signature off -> Install 350.12 = 1126.4 MHz (SLI) )

The last thing I tried - (Reboot into Safe Mode -> Prior to that go into the BIOS -> Reset BCLK -> Boot -> DDU from safemode -> reboot with signature off -> install 344.75 -> -> Reboot signature off -> Install 350.12 = (with core clock @ +136 MHz and memory clock @ + 0 MHz) 1262 MHz for a few more seconds (Power consumption = always around 330W when it gets higher the core clock goes down to 1126 MHz) <- this last try I think is the best so far but still is not maintaining 1262 MHz the whole time.

I will try to do something different if you think I did something wrong just let me know, but I guess is SLi related :S

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i've got the same result in Firestrike that you did. i am running sli with slv7 hex edited bios. no random visible throttling whatsover on any driver, but seems i am running into some fps cap in 3dmark11, as it never goes higher than 120.5fps and my gpu util gets 70-80 when it hits that wall.

I saw same behavior in 3D Mark 11 always 120.5 FPS. In some places and just for a few short time it goes higher than that but not all the times and not all the time.

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

<dt>Graphics Score 1184

No SLI, no throttling at all, 1300 MHz during all the benchmarks +174 MHz / +450 MHz @ 1.1V (+37.5 mV)

</dt><dt>Graphics Score 11986</dt>

No SLI, no throttling at all, 1330 MHz during all the benchmarks +204 MHz / +450 MHz @ 1.112V (+50 mV)

GTA V (No SLI, no throttling at all, 1330 MHz during all the benchmark +204 MHz / +450 MHz @ 1.112V (+50 mV))

Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg

Pass 0, 13.501227, 61.782425, 57.270287

Pass 1, 25.270493, 63.211140, 54.683575

Pass 2, 37.955757, 62.220230, 58.201344

Pass 3, 34.379906, 62.257423, 58.868664

Pass 4, 26.590147, 68.560036, 56.379612

Time in milliseconds(ms). (Lower is better). Min, Max, Avg

Pass 0, 16.185833, 74.067337, 17.461061

Pass 1, 15.819997, 39.571846, 18.287027

Pass 2, 16.071943, 26.346464, 17.181734

Pass 3, 16.062342, 29.086758, 16.986967

Pass 4, 14.585756, 37.607914, 17.736908

Frames under 16ms (for 60fps):

Pass 0: 0/535 frames (0.00%)

Pass 1: 2/509 frames (0.39%)

Pass 2: 0/549 frames (0.00%)

Pass 3: 0/556 frames (0.00%)

Pass 4: 13/6495 frames (0.20%)

Frames under 33ms (for 30fps):

Pass 0: 532/535 frames (99.44%)

Pass 1: 506/509 frames (99.41%)

Pass 2: 549/549 frames (100.00%)

Pass 3: 556/556 frames (100.00%)

Pass 4: 6490/6495 frames (99.92%)

Percentiles in ms for pass 0

50%, 16.00

75%, 17.00

80%, 17.00

85%, 17.00

90%, 19.00

91%, 19.00

92%, 19.00

93%, 20.00

94%, 20.00

95%, 20.00

96%, 21.00

97%, 23.00

98%, 24.00

99%, 26.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 1

50%, 17.00

75%, 19.00

80%, 19.00

85%, 20.00

90%, 21.00

91%, 21.00

92%, 21.00

93%, 22.00

94%, 22.00

95%, 22.00

96%, 23.00

97%, 24.00

98%, 24.00

99%, 27.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 2

50%, 16.00

75%, 17.00

80%, 17.00

85%, 17.00

90%, 17.00

91%, 17.00

92%, 18.00

93%, 18.00

94%, 18.00

95%, 19.00

96%, 19.00

97%, 20.00

98%, 21.00

99%, 22.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 3

50%, 16.00

75%, 17.00

80%, 17.00

85%, 17.00

90%, 17.00

91%, 17.00

92%, 17.00

93%, 17.00

94%, 17.00

95%, 17.00

96%, 17.00

97%, 17.00

98%, 17.00

99%, 18.00

Percentiles in ms for pass 4

50%, 17.00

75%, 18.00

80%, 18.00

85%, 19.00

90%, 20.00

91%, 20.00

92%, 21.00

93%, 21.00

94%, 21.00

95%, 22.00

96%, 22.00

97%, 23.00

98%, 23.00

99%, 25.00

=== SYSTEM ===

Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)

DX Feature Level: 11.0

Intel® Core i7-3920XM CPU @ 2.90GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.1GHz

8192MB RAM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M, 8471MB, Driver Version 350.12

Graphics Card Vendor Id 0x10de with Device ID 0x13d7

=== SETTINGS ===

Display: 1920x1080 (FullScreen) @ 59Hz VSync ON

Tessellation: 2

LodScale: 1.000000

PedLodBias: 0.200000

VehicleLodBias: 0.000000

ShadowQuality: 2

ReflectionQuality: 2

ReflectionMSAA: 4

SSAO: 2

AnisotropicFiltering: 16

MSAA: 2

MSAAFragments: 0

MSAAQuality: 0

TextureQuality: 2

ParticleQuality: 2

WaterQuality: 2

GrassQuality: 1

ShaderQuality: 2

Shadow_SoftShadows: 5

UltraShadows_Enabled: true

Shadow_ParticleShadows: true

Shadow_Distance: 1.000000

Shadow_LongShadows: true

Shadow_SplitZStart: 0.930000

Shadow_SplitZEnd: 0.890000

Shadow_aircraftExpWeight: 0.990000

Shadow_DisableScreenSizeCheck: false

Reflection_MipBlur: true

FXAA_Enabled: true

TXAA_Enabled: true

Lighting_FogVolumes: true

Shader_SSA: true

DX_Version: 2

CityDensity: 0.700000

PedVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000

VehicleVarietyMultiplier: 1.000000

PostFX: 3

DoF: true

HdStreamingInFlight: true

MaxLodScale: 1.000000

MotionBlurStrength: 0.300000

[J95]

I think it's SLI related (maybe power related).

This is exactly what I did - (Reboot into Safe Mode -> Prior to that go into the BIOS -> Reset BCLK -> Boot -> DDU from safemode -> reboot with signature off -> install 344.75 -> Reboot -> Reboot Safe Mode -> DDU -> Reboot signature off -> Install 350.12 = 1126.4 MHz (SLI) )

The last thing I tried - (Reboot into Safe Mode -> Prior to that go into the BIOS -> Reset BCLK -> Boot -> DDU from safemode -> reboot with signature off -> install 344.75 -> -> Reboot signature off -> Install 350.12 = (with core clock @ +136 MHz and memory clock @ + 0 MHz) 1262 MHz for a few more seconds (Power consumption = always around 330W when it gets higher the core clock goes down to 1126 MHz) <- this last try I think is the best so far but still is not maintaining 1262 MHz the whole time.

I will try to do something different if you think I did something wrong just let me know, but I guess is SLi related :S

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It seems to be the case then, I need an M18xR2 to fix this... try installing my other driver mod, let's see if those removed DLLs/'Green BTS' have any influence here (only nv_dispi.inf) -> GeForce 350.12 MOD (PEG) AW/900M Stock Throttling Removed (P1 switching)

[etienne51]

Hello again to everyone here, I've been here a while ago, I'll say about 5 months earlier, and I finally just decided to buy myself one GTX 980M for my M17x R4.

So I see the options remains the same, meaning, either Windows 7 with Optimus, without eDP 120Hz panel, either Windows 8.1 or 10, with dedicated graphics, and the ability to use a 120Hz panel right? And apparently no worries about throttling issues when using Optimus.

I tried to read the 100 more thread pages since the last time I've been here, but I may have missed a lot, that was quite huge.

Now I'm comming back with one question... I just saw the Clevo P771ZM and I'm wondering if a 980M bought from HIDEvolution could be swapped to this Clevo monster later, with or without a vbios flash? Anyone knows anything about that?

I just sent them a mail to get more informations about their cards, I'll see what they tell me.

Actually, I plan on upgrading my M17x R4 for the moment, and maybe in the next months or even earlier, I may buy a Clevo P771ZM without graphics card, and put my 980M inside, if it happens to be compatible.

[Miguel Maroto Madrid]

It seems to be the case then, I need an M18xR2 to fix this... try installing my other driver mod, let's see if those removed DLLs/'Green BTS' have any influence here (only nv_dispi.inf) -> GeForce 350.12 MOD (PEG) AW/900M Stock Throttling Removed (P1 switching)

What ever you need to test or try just tell me, I will try to satisfy your personal curiosity to fix this issue.

I have reinstalled right now "..(only nv_dispi.inf) -> GeForce 350.12 MOD (PEG) AW/900M Stock Throttling Removed (P1 switching) " and as expected no throttling from 1126 MHz (this mod is the most stable) but we can't go further than 1126 MHz

If we could have a different VBIOS to try, it will help us to know if the problem persist even if you force those clocks & voltage by flashing the cards. Is there any how we could try to mod Prema's vbios?

I would like to test something like:

P1 - Core 1300 MHz / Memory 2905 MHz @ 1.112 mV (stock voltage + 50 mV )

P0 - same clocks as P1.

I don't know how to do that or who can help on this.