Dr. AMK

3 hours ago, TBoneSan said:

I'm interested to see how the temps are on DM2 with a single 1080.

 

Im also very confused about the monitor selections on offer right now and in the near future. 

Dear friend, just listen to @Mr. Fox advice in this regards and you will not regret that. I'm using a 4K 55" LG TV as a monitor and I can feel the 4K details practically, 17" 4K in my opinion is just a waste of money, but for rich people it will be nice to have especially if it will support the 120Hz  

15 minutes ago, Lucifer Nymphetamine said:

What´s new Doc?

I didn't understand your question,

but I'm asking about the upgrade requirements, is it needs to completely change the heat sink for example to support the 2 cards for the new cooling design, I don't know if the cooling system for the model P870DM2 with one card will include the heat sink for SLI or not? is the upgrade will be only the card or needs a complete kit?

I'm not an expert like your kind self, and maybe sometime I'm asking a silly questions  pardon me please.

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9909335

Thank you @johnksss for your kind reply, one GTX1080 is still impressive, on top of GTX980 SLI, this is really remarkable.  I'll consider the 1080 singularity as a strong option for someone like me.

My next question and concern will be about the future upgrade to SLI requirements, it will be nice or a nightmare?  .

On 8/20/2016 at 6:42 PM, Prema said:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9794614

Dear @Prema @Mr. Fox is there is any benchmarks for CLEVO P870DM with (one) GTX 1080?

Regards,

5 hours ago, Brian said:

Honestly, this is why I think in the long term e-GPU is a good thing for notebooks. You can buy a notebook w/a kick ass CPU in it equipped with an integrated GPU and then just dock it to an external GPU that is better than any MXM class card you could install in your system. The advantages are:

 

1. eGPU is cheaper and upgradeable 

2. eGPU is a full desktop card and will run cooler than an MXM solution

3. Your notebook will likely be thinner and much lighter

4. You aren't tied to a single brand of notebook

5. Your notebook won't sound like a jet engine

6. Notebook won't be hot as a furnace and roast your balls

 

Yeah the e-GPU is an external solution but come on let's be real here for a minute, many of you with these beastly rigs have 2 x 330W PSUs hooked up to them which are enormous. Those would also be eliminated as you'd have a small compact PSU for the notebook and one for the e-GPU. If you travel you may have to lug an extra piece of equipment around but that's not really a big deal considering these "notebooks" aren't exactly travel friendly in the first place. Personally, as a enthusiast, I want a thin profile notebook w/a desktop CPU in it and 120 Hz IPS display that has TB3 which is compatible with any eGPU I connect to it, I think that is the real future of laptop gaming.

I asked for advice in many discussions, to find information about trying the eGPU option with my P570WM along with GTX 1080 using the Express card slot in the front, I didn't find any confirmation that convince me to take the risk to invest and buy all parts needed. I can be the 1st one to do it, but I can't without a complete guidance and direction from our senior members in this regards.

7 minutes ago, Prema said:

 

Pretty cool, considering that's all still with stock firmware and a bunch of throttle... 

We should call this beast a "Super Computer" he must have the title after the P570WM with no competitors at all, and with your perfect BIOS @Prema it will be even more powerful and beautiful as well.

I do not know where will modern technologies take us, but undoubtedly to wonderful place. We are expecting some cooperation between Samsung and nVidia to do something crazy in the near future, just wait and see.

47 minutes ago, Prema said:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9794614

This is really impressive, I never saw such a score before. WoW

Yes, I was asking @johnksss for his laptop price few days ago, and if there is something can be done it should be by him to get this old beast alive.

So we just try to deal with this facts, except if someone will do something special someday, the experts people always do, we all saw some members removing the desktop GPU cores and put it in a mobile one.

I will have hope and keep searching, and in the same time I have to prepare a new budget for the new technologies anyway and I'm getting quotations now from different vendors for the new Clevo P570WM3.

There is some information we can find it in this discussion:

This is from @Prema

On 8/16/2016 at 11:57 PM, Lucifer Nymphetamine said:

 

 

Good afternoon , guys , I think my pergpunta will be directly answered by PREMA , but come on . I have a Clevo P570WM3 (aka Phanter 5D Eurocom ) I want to buy SLI 1080 ... Eurocom and Mr. Fox warned me that it is impossible compatibility. PS : I want to slit my wrists . Prema , is there any possibility of any of the paschal be compatible ? If so, what will possibly be compatible . Many thanks to all who can somehow guide me .

Single MSI GPU may work, but I have no test results, yet. None of the cards that I am aware of would allow for SLI.

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This is from @Mr. Fox :

On 8/17/2016 at 0:08 AM, Dr. AMK said:

Dear @Prema and @Mr. Fox I'll ask the same quistion and need your kind advice for the P570WM.

Hey bro! Unless @Prema has some kind of info that I have not seen, I think 980M SLI is the end of the line. 

A 1060 option might exist, but a wimpy option like that really isn't an option at all. If it has no SLI connector, then it will be an unacceptable option even if it fits. 

I'm not convinced that 1070 SLI is a significant enough upgrade to justify the expense. We need some extreme 1070 SLI benchmarks to set the record straight on this, but it will still be second rate with 1080 SLI overshadowing it. And, for 1070 to fit, it's going to have to be totally different than anything Clevo brings to the table. Maybe an MSI variant.

The question of heat sink fit also comes to mind. Fitting in the chassis is the first step. Step two is cooling it. If the heat sinks for the P570WM do not fit, game over. If they fit but can't keep it cool, game over. Many variables to contend with.

43 minutes ago, Lucifer Nymphetamine said:

Any other update ? 
Have same ´´problem´´ a phanter 5D who needs upgrade...

Waiting for our experts and heroes  to give us a hope  

9 hours ago, D2ultima said:

Your best update is possible the GTX 980 130W SLI option from the MSI GT80. But I don't know if they can actually fit, and if not, then 980M SLI is the end for that machine. The other cards simply won't fit, and you don't have heatsinks for them with the custom designs, as far as I know.

Thank you @D2ultima for your kind reply. 

My opinion from business prospective, strong and powerful manufacturing companies always care about the old models to support all new technologies as much as they can, this will give their products more value even the resale value will be increased, but the sales team will not be happy of course. MSI for example promised all clients that the GT80 will support 2 future generations, I assume that Clevo is more powerful than the MSI with their desktop parts and in the same time should be more flexible to upgrades as well.

I'm not an expert, but I believe that there is a solution to have at least one GTX1080 inside this old beast somehow, and maybe with some modifications SLI can be done, it needs more research and more contribution from our experts members.

Regards.

My friends @Mr. Fox  @Prema @Brian @chap @D2ultima @johnksss , I'll just open this discussion again after the latest pascal GTX 1070/1080 released. If you don't mind, I suggest discussing the upgrade possibility for this machine with the new GPU's in single and SLI options, and close it once and for all.

1 minute ago, Brian said:

 

I wonder if that shared hsf will hamper cpu overclocking and possibly gpu boost consistency once it is heat soaked? I was never a fan of shared hsf designs. I had hoped they would try something new like a vapor chamber to cool these monsters.

I agree with you @Brian, and what about some innovation and considering the water cooling somehow...  Clevo should be leading the markets from all perspectives.

7 minutes ago, Lucifer Nymphetamine said:

 

 

Good afternoon , guys , I think my pergpunta will be directly answered by PREMA , but come on . I have a Clevo P570WM3 (aka Phanter 5D Eurocom ) I want to buy SLI 1080 ... Eurocom and Mr. Fox warned me that it is impossible compatibility. PS : I want to slit my wrists . Prema , is there any possibility of any of the paschal be compatible ? If so, what will possibly be compatible . Many thanks to all who can somehow guide me .

Dear @Prema and @Mr. Fox I'll ask the same quistion and need your kind advice for the P570WM.

Beautiful interior the Duel GTX 1080 inside the Eurocom X9E2, is the new cooling system is the same for other brands?

http://www.newsmaritime.com/2016/clevo-gaming-laptops-getting-nvidia-gtx-1080-gtx-1070-mobile-video-cards/

http://en.yibada.com/articles/150411/20160811/nvidia-gtx-1080-1070-mobile-video-cards-appear-clevo-gaming.htm

http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=950&lang=en

http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=953&lang=en

http://www.eurocom.com/ec/future()ec

1 hour ago, cmiyc said:

 

Thanks for the reply. Basically I tried my Laptop y500 with a my friend's setup GTX 760 and works fine. I am planning to buy a GTX 1060 or GTX 970. If 10 series cards work then I will buy 1060. I hope someone can give a confirmation.

I'm waiting also, but I'll go for the GTX1080.

Good Luck

Really not sure yet, no one confirm it's working or not, it seems like it will work fine but maybe some bandwidth limitation will happen, the GTX1080 still a new card no one has experience with eGPU can tell us until now.

Our friend @Tech Inferno Fan is our Senior Expert in this subject without his confirmation it will be a risk, he is the software owner to make it work, you can find his tools in the link below:

2 hours ago, Khenglish said:

So I switched 7 of the 980's memory chips over to the 980(m?). I broke the 8th. ~200MHz memory clock gain.

 

1502/7160 firestrike:

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13957945

 

My gpu scores are just not in line with the normal 980 mxm cards. Extrapolating my score for their clocks I'd get ~16800, while they get 17100. Maybe I'm getting a little optimus penalty? Its strange to be getting it at such low fps though. Usually it only shows up for 200fps+.

 

1495/7160 3dm11: (needed to drop voltage to avoid AC cutoff)

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11477667

 

Meanwhile 3dm11 does very well. 21748 is right where a 1495/7160 980 should be.

 

I am eyeing a dead 970 with Samsung memory on ebay now for 8 more 7GHz memory chips.

 

 

UPDATE:

 

I reran firestrike and scored much higher. It looks like something went wrong on that last run. Same clocks as before, but over 16k gpu:

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13958342

 

firestrike loves memory clocks.

This is fantastic, how did you do that?

Thanks @Mr. Fox 

The different between the 880'sM and the 980'sM almost 10,000 wow, really a big different. Hope that the P570WM can support the GTX 1080 so I can upgrade in the near future.

BTW, the RAM speed is it important? I saw many videos and benchmarking between the 1333, 1866, 2400 and not that much different. Do you think I need to change my 1600 one?

Dear @johnksss

Within the next few days I'll get a Clevo P570WM with i7 4930K, 16GB, GTX 880m SLI, 256GB SSD + 1TB SSD Raid,  2X330W PSU, how much do you think I can get from it after flashing @Prema bios and flashing the vBios as well?.

Maybe @Mr. Fox can help as well, he is one of our heros 

 Fallout 4 ,... I have to try it.

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