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Brother John.... In the name of number chasing let there be no hardware not overclocked lol Thanks Prema I really have Tech Inferno and all of you to thank. I was glad to help put Tech Inferno Team out there more. I try to enter new scores on HWBOT when I get time, our team is doing pretty good.

Thank you very much angerthosenear hehe I love pushing hardware. Getting Sandy Mobile to 5ghz was cool and it definitely has been a fun journey since. Being a part of T|I is like having a family away from home. Glad to be amongst fellow enthusiasts. That is a great build list you setup and posted, thank you. That case is very cool and does match the motherboard. I was definitely thinking of the 4790k since thats the best chip for the socket. I wont be able to get parts till a bit into December so prices may change but I definitely want a 4790k in the system, ill skip the storage drive since i have plenty around externally so to save a couple $. 980 definitely the best choice, I see so many variances in prices on gpus for the same cards setup different by each third party so I appreciate the link that looks like a nice price on GTX980. Looking forward to building this beast and sharing the experience along the way. I know Brian went the way of the Desktop not long ago. I am sure this will be great fun. Haha my last desktop build for myself I could call my own was an Athlon XP barebone kit from Soyo

Wow thanks Staff Sargent and unlcewebb. Of course unclewebb, Throttle Stop is an integral component of any good running Intel Silicon and it is an honor to be able to use your program. Good to see all my great friends at Tech Inferno.

What is not working correctly with your Alien 17 svl7?

awesome i got 100hz on my alien display a bit over but 100 makes sure i am below the threshold. Thats great advice Louis1978uk and I am thinking of picking up that type of a laptop next year. I think I would like the extra threads and to be able to use a 130watt cpu and well quad channel ram. Eurocom is an incredible manufacurer. Im using 4 ssd in my Alien 18. 2 ssd main bays, 1 ssd in optical bay and msata ssd drive. they raid 0 all 4 and each port is sata 3 6gbps. Do you know if you load the 4 hd in the laptop if all 4 ports including using optical bay is sata3 6gbps. I was thinking going similar route as you guys besides the desktop build ill be starting out soon.

have you therefor tried 1440p at 20 or 24hz just to see if you get an image? might you have to hook it up with laptop closed and monitor as main display? with like external keyboard mouse, that probably isnt your intent.

LOL at this Windows 8 "mistake" in handling the CPU... maybe that's why Windows 8 lovers think it's faster than Windows 7. lol Love your rants bro I do agree that physics performance is a clear indicator of how efficient Windows 8-10 is. I only recently loaded the Win 10 preview but I would not go to that unless they fixed the efficiency issues. In all other aspects its not so bad. 10 looks better and 8 was worthless. But neither stand up to 7 till they fix the code i can except the bump from 780m sli to 980m sli because its like having nearly 4 780m for only a 5% cpu performance drop is a great alternative to not being able to use 980m's at all but as for me I wouldn't settle for that either lol. Hopefully Alienware and Windows 7 UEFI +980m becomes feasible on Alien 18 and the other effected models if there were any. My Alien 18 came with Win 7 Ultimate, clearly my preference lol.

Wow, thanks Mr.Fox that is such a nice compliment, thank you again it means a lot to me.

Thank you very much Louis1978UK and Johnksss good to see my tech friends Thanks Ixel glad to see you buddy

Hello Tech | Inferno I entered a competition on HW Bot on a whim. I entered late on a 4 week competition. Surprisingly I could not get an entry each week to work of the two weeks I participated for XTU (screenshot validation wouldn't come up with the xtu run uploaded). There were three entries on different tests each week for 4 weeks. I was eligible to enter this contest because I had Kingston HyperX ram in my system. I had bought DDR3L SO-DiMM for my Alien 18 that was a replacement for my previous M18x R1 this year under warranty. Still being new to the 22nm scene and having not used Ivybridge, Haswell was a very new beast to me. We had to run XTU, Super-Pi and Maxmem etc with different sub-scores or scores as the requirement. It was a lot of fun and I honestly only got to spend about 3 nights or so on my entries at all. I was surprised when I placed against all Liquid Cooled or phase cooled desktop rigs. We had to place in the top 6 to at least win the competition and I have never won anything in my life. I won 6th place and to me that was the greatest victory and experience. I admittedly never entered a competition before, so to me it was a very gratifying experience. It is an honor to share this entire experience with you and more of an honor to have met all of you here. To have learned from each other and to have shared all our experiences good or bad in technology. Very recently @Mr.Fox and @J95 helped me the past two months get acquainted with Haswell. Thank you kindly gentleman. @Stamatis-X as well encouraged me to go for it a great friend indeed. Very quickly I was starting to see the caveats to an Alien 18 and Haswell furnaces. The furnace was cooled by Liquid Pro (liquid metal alternative to thermal paste for those that don't know) after getting some practice on some older laptops around me and comparing Liquid Ultra and Liquid Pro in real world use. With my rig thermals in order and XTU/Throttle Stop/Bios Settings/HWiNFO combo I was back on track and clocking away again thanks to @Mr.Fox for all the advice on how to get started thanks to all his great expertise. Testing my CPUs ranges I got the 4940mx validated just under 5ghz like Mr.Fox and had my ram on 1.35v hitting 2220mhz@CL11-11-11-34 by using base-clock which is how I entered the competition. I got a Wprime 32m to 4.8secs something seconds on air at i think 4.8ghz (have to check) on air so I knew I had a nice range of performance available (my Sandybridge 2960xm needed extreme AC assistance and CL9 2133 ram at 1.65v to achieve 4.8secs and 5.135 GHz to get there). So I went at clocking my Haswell real high and running Maxmem for best scores they were looking for and SuperPi was there hardest I let it run all cores same speed for that test so each core would stay cooler on air vs locking to one core. XTU regrettably I couldn't get my entry in but I got ones ranging just shy of 1100 using less than 4.4ghz was near 4.35. Overall the competition was a lot of fun. I learned I can do a lot more than I thought I could and that if you try hard you can succeed. I will look for more competitions, this was a wonderful experience. To my surprise I was later notified about a week later that I had been selected as a winner of a HyperX Hot NA Hardware Bundle via email. I really didn't think I placed high enough to win something I simply thought cool I got my name on the list lol. So below this post are a few photos and screenshots of the Competition and the Hardware I won. The email stated the following which I was shocked to read: " Congratulations! You have been selected as a winner to receive a HOT hardware bundle! This includes: HyperX Predator DDR3 8GB 2800MHz kit HyperX 3K SSD 240GB GIGABYTE Z97X-SOC FORCE Gelid GC Extreme 10G Cooler Master V750 Cooler Master Nepton 140XL To receive your prize bundle, please reply" I am honored to win and I am glad to share my experience with you all. I would like to give a lot of thanks to all of you here. I would like to give a special thanks and I know I am going to miss a few people (apologies) but you are all greatly appreciated even if I fail to mention you. Thank you @Brian @svl7 @Michael @StamatisX @unclewebb @Mumak [MENTION=119]Mr. Fox[/MENTION] @unreal25 @chmod1337 @Conker @angerthosenear @Xonar @johnksss @J95 @deadbydawn @iloveb00bs @Prema @Aikimox @bifnewman @DaneGRClose @DanXbix @daveh98 @debaucher @DR650SE @Erich86 @eYe-I-aie... @faiz23 [MENTION=19224]free[/MENTION]domofthedarkenedheart @Gearsguy @GetFound @hidz7 @HOPELESSLYFAITHFUL @HTWingNut @ichime @iPhantomhive @Ixel @JCrichton @jeffereybaks @Jimbo [MENTION=7]Jubbin Grewal[/MENTION] @katalin_2003 @Kensei @KristoferNathan @Leo14 @littleone562 @louis198920 @Marcus007 @mitchellpeixer @mmskate13 @n3ocort3x @Nando @Nekojin @Ninjahunter @Nospheratu @Pursuit @ragingazn628 @rawhide85 @robby001 @robby_hd [MENTION=95]Silent Bob[/MENTION] @Simplified @Speedy Gonzalez [MENTION=305]Staff Sargent[/MENTION] @Stevenxowens792 @Strigae @thanats007 @TheGame @TitanGod @usmc362 @vikingrinn @Warp(d)Alien @wbabt007 @widezu69 @Khenglish @Slovedon @cresterk @louis1978uk @TBoneSan @Robbo @muhd86 @mohsen @Klem @arazvan2002 @godfafa In no particular order. Thank you all for being great friends and inspiration. Also for the fun friendly competition to keep us going. I want to thank my family as well. My dear Mother and Father, Holly and James as well as my Brother Maxx. My friends off the net Rob, Shawn and Ryan thank you. A special thanks to someone special in my life R.L.S You are my greatest inspiration and true friend. This kit may turn into a build which I'd be glad to get suggestions for. I haven't received the motherboard yet but I will share when that comes as well. Cheers and thankful for great friends. Will be first Desktop Build in years.

you are welcome and it's always great just to help glad I could be of some assistance. Nvinspector is perfectly fine as well. Okay keep working up until you seem to notice the temps jump more than they were per mhz you have raised. When you hit that point stick to the volt and mhz that was handling very good last. I think based on what you have reported you should get atleast the stock clock 993mhz at a low volt i forgot to say if you start to raise vram the volt needed on the core may need to be higher youd have to test because the more bandwith from the vram the more your core can work at the same speed or is pushed is basically the result. So my 1020mhz core @1.0V may need to be 1.006V @ a decent overclock on the vram. Vram and Core dont directly effect each other in their handling but because it can help the opposite do more at once the volt requirements can go up. So if you add speed to any component it may need more than what overclocking one component of the gpu needed. Temperatures if temps sit very high for long term the volts required can slip up an increment but you know that because you are testing long term temps. When done definitely load up your most modern game to test long term temps and real world scenarios vs tests. if your right click the top bar of the gpuz window you can select ASIC Quality that will tell you an estimate of how efficient your gpu may be, may is key word because some with low ASIC numbers can still do great but they usually require more cooling. The idea is the high the number the less volts at the same mhz would be needed and the lower may get the same mhz but need more volts and will need to be cooled better due to the higher volt requirements. here are my pair of 880m

Thats wonderful, great news. You dont really need fan control having auto and flatout hardware controls anyway, i use HWiNFO to be able to set as you say Flat Out (full speed. My suggestion test with fans flat out get a temp on the same tests to see where you are at then go from there if you want. The idea is to use the least amount of volts for the max speed that will allow for the speed you are at. Each card is different but if you crash thankfully PrecisionX will let you reset everything and if you dont have it apply on boot set your definitely good to go while testing. Vram high will effect heat dramatically on our *gb cards and 880m combo simply because a certain section gets hotter on the card from factory then 780m and the likes at same speeds etc. If your real worried about heat stick real low on volts such as the 1v or maybe as high as stock 1.018v for gaming but since that original voltage was too high 1v at something over 1ghz core would be a good bet. Maybe 1.006 or 1.012v but as you go up temps go up more than simply raising the mhz... the volts are only to keep the mhz stable as you see. Depending on the temps you get flat out fans on those tests you can probably go a bit higher on core and a small vram OC. For bench numbers a lot use 1500mhz on the vram or higher but for a daily clock on the temps we are dealing with if you use one I'd recommend trying 1300-1425mhz vram. Going too high over what the vram can do long term since you cant raise the volt of the ram easily you will cause the error correction to kick in which will allow in a lot of cases to complete a bench test but it degrades performance when that starts so if you start to raise vram to a point and scores start to drop thats near where error correction kicks in because it is needing more volts than is being supplied. Have fun buddy.

Hehe forgot about this @J95 I clocked that on Maxmem using baseclock and stock timings. http://hwbot.org/submission/2658198_mw86_maxxmem_read_bandwidth_ddr3_sdram_23332_mbytesec.

evga doesnt work for mine either for fan control did you try HWiNFO im not sure if it works or not but you open the sensor panel and if there is a fan icon at the bottom of that window you have fan control. you said auto or flat out? if you have a hardware control that maxes fans id use that. definitely give a raise to the exhaust area of the laptop to keep heat from building. In game you should not hit more than 80c from the handling you described in most games that is..

Ram is always easy to upgrade. For my Alien 18 there are two slots under the bottom cover and two under the keyboard assembly I would imagine it is similar on the Clevo. Upgrading to a second 880m in Sli should be straight forward as well. Needing the second gpu, heatsink and Sli bridge cable yes. You would need to make sure this is a heatsink for the secondary slot. Secondary slot heatsink can be different from primary. As long as it is a Clevo PSU for the same model. If not you may run into issues. If you have done one motherboard replacement it should be pretty straight forward performing these upgrades.

ypu should worst case scenario be able to remove the cmos battery wire and battery and hold power for 30 seconds then reassemble and bios is reset. thats worst case and most times a few tries booting a bad option will cause the bios to reset or will disable the Overclock options to try to boot itself again so you should have no worries even on an ES Cpu model. cheers

okay well not too bad for using MX4. I use Fan Control for my Alienware 18 through HWiNFO. If you can control your fans setting them to max while gaming would be good. If not you should be okay for gaming at 1v 993mhz. The paste I use is not a paste but liquid metal and highly conductive. It performs very well but takes practice to apply so that it is just enough and does not touch other components other than the cpu or gpu die. So for MX4 those temps arent bad. I used at one point a full version of 3dmark and set it on one test and looped it and go by the max temp i get in that after a few tests in a row. better than using furmark. a free alternative would be Unigine benchmark a few times in a row with max graphics settings.

just loaded Windows 10 Technical Preview on a test machine and it is a lot better than 8.1...

lol well I know my 880m do stock vram and 1020core on 1v seem to stay cool enough in what I throw at it. Much higher long term temps get worse because of the needed voltage to get there. I am using Liquid Pro on the gpu cores though so stock paste may not get as far. 1.018v for 993 on the stock vbios was horrible, this mod is great having 993mhz 1volt default. I have to max my fans to stay cool always anyway as I have Haswell and it is like trying to cool the Sun...

Thanks J95 you helped me plenty along the way :Awesome: The secondary timings I was able to drop lower as well. I kept them in the same ratio they were stock so I dropped those as low as the last timing there the right side of timing table editor would go while keeping that Ratio, that value would not go lower than about 25 i think so I kept the others set according to that value. It is like from top right down.. second value is 3 times the first timing there, the third and fourth like 1/2 the second timing and i think the final timing was 5 times the first timing. lol anyway pretty happy at 2133. Thanks @J95

yeah your bios might of reset you could try setting to ahci mode and make sure your hd is your first boot drive, move network boot option down below hdd, odd , usb etc. Unless your operating system is on your network which I dont think this is the case here. the reinstall might not be required i dont know either. You might need to go through and enable legacy boot if there is an option on Lenovo.

usually users use HWiNFO to make their fans run at maximum. What it could be is the hardware temp sensor is malfunctioning or reporting wrong especially if your gpu is not stock theres a chance for that. Maybe HWiNFO will let you override them while they are at max and make a fan table based on temps. It is definitely worth a try.

after flashing the vbios I recommend EVGA precision X app you can attain from their website. This app works better than most for our 880m allowing to control the volts, power limit and temp limit that the modded vbios allows us to adjust. The new limit if you set it can now be 93c and 160% power limit in TDP. Make sure to sync the two limits, is one of the options.

no they came from factory with the inability to maintain their stock clocks and boost clocks. They throttle down due to imposed limits on the card which is adjustable on the modded vbios. So they arent factory underclocked, rather they are factory crippled lol.

Replied in PM hope my info helps any. If any issues please reply in your thread about the issues you created or PM me. This is actually a VBIOS mod request thread. Good luck buddy.