Khenglish Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Memory controller voltage level N/A (0)[ATTACH]10715[/ATTACH]Thaiphoon Burner XMPE (XMP Enhancer) XMPE -> templates -> Standard Speed Bins -> DDR3 2133M CL13, 2133L CL12, 2133K CL11Defaults are 1.30V / Module VDD Voltage Level 1.65V @Khenglish setting Memory Controller voltage level to 0 turns Auto/controller ?Default XMP profiles voltages.I highly doubt setting the memory controller voltage there will have any real effect. Even on desktops the memory controller voltage (VCCSA) is controlled in BIOS only, ignoring the memory SPD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 That's why I set 0 (N/A) to avoid possible conflicts, both worked for me 0/1.30V confirming what you said. [MENTION=119]Mr. Fox[/MENTION] edited previous post (Spoiler), System CMD Rate Mode default for CL11 is 3T (2T). XMP second Profile CL10, Kingston HyperX PnP CL9 1600MHz. XMP CL11 1.65V HyperX PnP (Today) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfafa Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 That's why I set 0 (N/A) to avoid possible conflicts, both worked for me 0/1.30V confirming what you said. @Mr. Fox edited previous post (Spoiler), System CMD Rate Mode default for CL11 is 3T (2T).XMP second Profile CL10, Kingston HyperX PnP CL9 1600MHz.[ATTACH]10721[/ATTACH]XMP CL11 1.65V HyperX PnP (Today)[ATTACH]10724[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]10725[/ATTACH]Hello, J95.Did you make CR1 (command rate 1T) by Thaiphoon Burner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 Hi there, 2x8GB default CR1, when using XMP profiles (2000MHz) CR needs to be adjusted with Thaiphoon Burner CORSAIR CMSX16GX3M2B2133C11 Vengeance Performance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 204-Pin DDR3L SO-DIMM 2133MHZ Laptop Memory 16GB 1 DIMM per channel - 32GB 2 DIMM per channel. CR1 1ns-1.250ns (CR2 2.000 ns). [ATTACH]11090[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]11093[/ATTACH] FireStrike 7045 (CPU power issue/68W Max 80-100 pts lower) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,AlienwareM17xR4Modded 580m htsnk 83C (stock fan), P/N THPDJ 11.4 CFM even better... CPU power issue 80W (XTU stability test) this proves that the board is power capable. XTU benchmark 68W max, ME FW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfafa Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Hi there, 2x8GB default CR1, when using XMP profiles (2000MHz) CR needs to be adjusted with Thaiphoon Burner CORSAIR CMSX16GX3M2B2133C11 Vengeance Performance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 204-Pin DDR3L SO-DIMM 2133MHZ Laptop Memory[ATTACH=CONFIG]11604[/ATTACH]CPU power issue 80W (XTU stability test) this proofs that the board is power capable. XTU benchmark 68W max, ME FW.That's incredible. Nice work. I should update my ME FW too.Nice ram too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 That's incredible. Nice work. I should update my ME FW too.Nice ram too. It's not fixed, I only found out the proper settings/limit. XTU 4.4GHz 99W-128-99W 115A (pri 920) Flex 14 (54.68750mV). For 4.5GHz there's not enough power, 80W was achieved with very tight RAM timings (XTU stress test) still when running the benchmark test it's limited to 68W (4.4GHz-4.5GHz)...so modding ME FW is required. RAM at 2133MHz all stability tests OK (default settings 11-11-11-31), not 100% stable (Premiere Pro) and it's not the controller, this CPU was tested 2133MHz 10-10-10-30 and (R4) @2000MHz 9-10-9-27 passing all stress tests including Premiere Pro. My current XMP profiles , 2000MHz 10-10-10-29 CR1 or benchmarking 9-10-9-28 (9-10-9-27). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 It's not fixed, I only found out the proper settings/limit. XTU 4.4GHz 99W-128-99W 115A (pri 920) Flex 14 (54.68750mV). For 4.5GHz there's not enough power, 80W was achieved with very tight RAM timings (XTU stress test) still when running the benchmark test it's limited to 68W (4.4GHz-4.5GHz)...so modding ME FW is required. RAM at 2133MHz all stability tests OK (default settings 11-11-11-31), not 100% stable (Premiere Pro) and it's not the controller, this CPU was tested 2133MHz 10-10-10-30 and (R4) @2000MHz 9-10-9-27 passing all stress tests including Premiere Pro. My current XMP profiles , 2000MHz 10-10-10-29 CR1 or benchmarking 9-10-9-28 (9-10-9-27). What have you done to confirm stability with +54.7mV? I can do benchmarks with my 3920xm at that voltage and 4.4ghz, but I need +82.5mV to run prime95 for several hours (burns up to 89W running up to 95C). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 Well that's the problem, if I set +82.5mV it will start dropping power but keeping core v. M18xR2 tests 4.4GHz +31.25mV (silicon lottery), M17xR4 +54.68mV. Probably modding M18xR2 ME FW...I've already tried flashing M18xR2 ME FW (FPT), BIOS doesn't recognize it, still no brick. Flashed unlocked A11 without issues. 80-100 pts lower (7045) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,AlienwareM17xR4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfafa Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Well that's the problem, if I set +82.5mV it will start dropping power but keeping core v. M18xR2 tests 4.4GHz +31.25mV (silicon lottery), M17xR4 +54.68mV. Probably modding M18xR2 ME FW...I've already tried flashing M18xR2 ME FW (FPT), BIOS doesn't recognize it, still no brick. Flashed unlocked A11 without issues. 80-100 pts lower (7045) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,AlienwareM17xR4Nice job, you've done.What's the physics score with 3dmark11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Well that's the problem, if I set +82.5mV it will start dropping power but keeping core v. M18xR2 tests 4.4GHz +31.25mV (silicon lottery), M17xR4 +54.68mV. Probably modding M18xR2 ME FW...I've already tried flashing M18xR2 ME FW (FPT), BIOS doesn't recognize it, still no brick. Flashed unlocked A11 without issues. 80-100 pts lower (7045) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,AlienwareM17xR4Interesting that the m18x needs less voltage. I'm surprised there's a noticeable difference since the m17x is 3 phase, so it should be decent. I wish Dell posted motherboard schematics so I could see the voltage regulation circuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 Nice job, you've done.What's the physics score with 3dmark11?Win8.1 Physics 10279 (4.4GHz) Win7 +500 pts.Interesting that the m18x needs less voltage. I'm surprised there's a noticeable difference since the m17x is 3 phase, so it should be decent. I wish Dell posted motherboard schematics so I could see the voltage regulation circuits.Actually it doesn't, XTU stress test unlocks the power limit to +80W using the same settings as the M18xR2 4.4GHz +31.25mV. It's only when running XTU benchmark that I must set 54.68mV due to the 68W limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfafa Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Win8.1 Physics 10279 (4.4GHz) Win7 +500 pts.Actually it doesn't, XTU stress test unlocks the power limit to +80W using the same settings as the M18xR2 4.4GHz +31.25mV. It's only when running XTU benchmark that I must set 54.68mV due to the 68W limit.Great score. Does the clock not fluctuate during intel XTU test with 4.4 * 4 cores?I have experienced many 3940xm/3920xm/QBC1 oem qs and ect, and found a very nice CPU that can run 4.5 * 4 intel XTU stress testwithout any fluctuation of clock with only 60~65w (less than 68w) in m17x R4. That means it also runs very cool.godfafa´ÔÀÇ ºí·Î±× : ³×À̹ö ºí·Î±×I dont know why but i can't add a screenshot. This is my blog, you can click the picture and at the left upper corner there is a icon that you can click and get a better look.All screenshot was done in m17x R4 with 3940xm oem and 780m with unlocked bios and vbios.FIrst picture shows this cpu runs 4 cores with 4.5 clock at 78~80 degree celssius with 60-65w. I can't forget the first moment I met this CPU. Second picuture is a 3dmark11 score with no OC for GPU and 4.6 * 4 core overclock for CPU. At 4.6 * 4 clock, the clock at XTU stress test fluctuate between 4.5~4.6, and I think it is maybe due to a higher required power for 4.6 clock.Third picture is a XTU benchmark with 4.7 clock. Again the clock fluctuate due to lack of power. Overall, I never was able to push more than 68w for CPU in m17x R4. As you know, I've tried so many things to overcome this but never was able to do so.But I am just happy that met this wonderful CPU and because I dont need SLI or CFX any more ( I only play Leauge of legends and diablo 3),I will stick to this CPU and laptop for a few years. I sold my m18x R2 because 11k physics score with 3dmark11 is enough and the temperature is much better with m17x R4 ironically. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 Yep, that's a very good CPU you got there. Try running XTU memory stress test, it will probably reach +80W (keeping RAM tight timings).FireStrike 7108 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M17xR4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Small improvement.3DMark11 P10649 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M17xR4FireStrike 7175 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M17xR4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfafa Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 @J95hi, would you please share your xmp profile file (thaiphoon file)? I am getting a corsair memory eventually. Very hard to get rid of samsung ram in korea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 @J95hi, would you please share your xmp profile file (thaiphoon file)? I am getting a corsair memory eventually. Very hard to get rid of samsung ram in korea. Never get rid of Samsung ram, locura! You're in the right place then BIOS set custom profile/timings 2133MHz with this little monster Samsung 8GB DDR3-1600 CL11 Sodimm M471B1G73QH0-YK0: specifications, reviews, prices, discount offers and more | ITReviews United Kingdom It will depend on your cpu memory controller, but you should be able to OC the hell out them... Corsair Vengeance CMSX16GX3M2B2133C1 with Samsung chips K4B4G0846Q http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/file/product/DS_4G_Q-die_DDR3_Rev10-1.pdf XMP profiles 2000MHz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfafa Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Never get rid of Samsung ram, locura! You're in the right place then BIOS set custom profile/timings 2133MHz with this little monster Samsung 8GB DDR3-1600 CL11 Sodimm M471B1G73QH0-YK0: specifications, reviews, prices, discount offers and more | ITReviews United KingdomIt will depend on your cpu memory controller, but you should be able to OC the hell out them... Corsair Vengeance CMSX16GX3M2B2133C1 with Samsung chips K4B4G0846Q http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/file/product/DS_4G_Q-die_DDR3_Rev10-1.pdf XMP profiles 2000MHz. Thanks, I'll try that XMP. Have to contact thaiphoon burner to get another serial. I have YK0 and CK0 samsung memories that could be OCed to 2133 in m18x R2. However in R4, 2133 doens't seem to work with any of those Kingston or Corsair memories. That's why I want to try 2000. Thanks again for sharing the xmp files. - - - Updated - - - @J95, BTW you managed to OC any ram to 2133 with stability in R4? And have you tried 2200? Some one in Korea has succeeded to OC his corsair ram to 2200 with the new alienware (=R5) . He said he OCed just by BIOS. (not XMP editing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Thanks, I'll try that XMP. Have to contact thaiphoon burner to get another serial.I have YK0 and CK0 samsung memories that could be OCed to 2133 in m18x R2. However in R4, 2133 doens't seem to work with any of those Kingston or Corsair memories.That's why I want to try 2000. Thanks again for sharing the xmp files.- - - Updated - - - @J95, BTW you managed to OC any ram to 2133 with stability in R4?And have you tried 2200? Some one in Korea has succeeded to OC his corsair ram to 2200 with the new alienware (=R5) .He said he OCed just by BIOS. (not XMP editing)[ATTACH=CONFIG]12621[/ATTACH]Haswell has a much better IMC than ivy bridge and sandy bridge. I have a stick of samsung that can do 2133 10-11-11 at best in an IVB, and I let someone with a haswell borrow it and it booted windows at the same timings at 2400, and that was at 1.35V. That's why the corsair could do 2200 in the R5. I can't get that stick to finish POST at any timings at 2400 in my IVB laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfafa Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 @KhenglishWow 2400 at 1.35v is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 Thanks, I'll try that XMP. Have to contact thaiphoon burner to get another serial.I have YK0 and CK0 samsung memories that could be OCed to 2133 in m18x R2. However in R4, 2133 doens't seem to work with any of those Kingston or Corsair memories. That's why I want to try 2000. Thanks again for sharing the xmp files. - - - Updated - - - @J95, BTW you managed to OC any ram to 2133 with stability in R4? And have you tried 2200? Some one in Korea has succeeded to OC his corsair ram to 2200 with the new alienware (=R5) . He said he OCed just by BIOS. (not XMP editing) [ATTACH=CONFIG]12621[/ATTACH] Nope, 2133Mz 2x8GB passes the memory tests (XTU, memtest86+) but not the firefox test (RAMdisk) which is pretty handy when messing with timings, doing it first avoids wasting time. Try this spd with corsair vengeance ram 2133 1 DIMM per channel 2x8GB (updated thaiphoon burner), xmp1 24/7 xmp2 benching or update xmp2 using .emp 9-10-9-27 / 9-9-9-27. @godfafa use these XMP profiles (tCWL) corrected), set xmp2 to 9-10-9-27 or 9-9-9-27 Corsair CMSX16GX3M2B2133C1 Corsair_XMP.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfafa Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 @J95Thank you very much!I succeeded OC corsair ram to 2000Mz with your profile.It took some time for me to contact thaiphoon burner company to get a new update.This is great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 @godfafa Try the updated XMP profiles with tighter/corrected timings. [ATTACH=CONFIG]12669[/ATTACH] Corsair CMSX16GX3M2B2133C1 Power issue, I've tried a few mods with no success, it could be a hard limit on a voltage rail on the board (svl7). R4 & M18xR2 board schematics would be helpful...where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfafa Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thx again.The updated profile works great too! BTW have you seen the 3dmark11 result of "new" new alienware with HQ cpu?Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960HQ,Alienware 0146Q8check it out.If 17 18 alienware comes with HQ cpu, the era of alienware would be done. ;( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfafa Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 The new profile #1 shows some error in testmem5. I am using your old profile since this one works flawlessly without any error in testmem5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thx again.The updated profile works great too! BTW have you seen the 3dmark11 result of "new" new alienware with HQ cpu? Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960HQ,Alienware 0146Q8 check it out. If 17 18 alienware comes with HQ cpu, the era of alienware would be done. ;( An aberration, Frankie's achievement goals... Power issue, maybe High resolution images from the M18xR2 board so we can compare components. Do you still have the m18x? The new profile #1 shows some error in testmem5. I am using your old profile since this one works flawlessly without any error in testmem5. Mine passed all tests, TestMem5 included. I probably need to adjust Command Rate. How many sticks? Upload the stock spd, replace the serial numbers with 000000. 24/7 @Khenglish 3D model (eDP) link x16, differently R4/Optimus and M18xR2 3.0 x8(2) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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