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TheReciver I guess I've deserved that last answer my own for your previous one was a bit too passive aggressive shouldn't have wrote it after few beers. But I really didn't mean to insult You, again about unlocked bios - fptw64 dost want to work under WIN 8.1 and installing windows 7 would take a lot of fuss (I'd had to download it install it get all the drivers etc) especially that it allegedly don't work with Geralds adapter (that remain to be check thou because it might work after all since windows 8 works) so it was much faster and easier to ask someone for his already unlocked one - its not a short cutting just common sense. I'm fully aware You don't care about that laptop mobility - its juts that I and I think most of people plying with eGPUs do. That's the reason eGPUs were devised in the first place, to enhance laptop capabilities not to turn them into desktop PCs. Your project is quite interesting from scientific point of view and I would like to see how it will turn out to look in the end but what You have in mind is very specific application. My opinions and my views are just "my own" and I wouldn't even bother with stating them in length if You wouldn't insist that I don't get your idea - it took me around 2 posts to get it but at this point you already started to be angry " I dont know what it is with you but I have provided context to my plan like 2-3 times now and every time you miss certain pieces along the way" etc. I think You take this whole thing much to seriously but as everything else its Your choice. I would prefer to "work" alongside your project development as Your help, thou a bit "bitter", was quite valuable but as we clearly have problems with communication without unnecessary stress all I can do Is wish you best of luck with your endeavour - ill try to find it when it will be completed but I wont say a word about it

TheReciver you are creating a problem when non exist - I didn't have a problem whit your intentions until you started to answer like a jerk - You remember when I asked you for unlocked bios and you 3 or 4 times directed me to bios download files even when I clearly stated that I cant use bios backup program - and it didn't have anything to do with me editing posts as I've asked you directly about already unlocked one and you assumed I don't know what I'm doing? That got old really fast but I didn't start to behave like an offended 5 year old. English is not my native language either so sometimes I have problems with understanding some concepts right away but you clearly don't want to understand that other people have different views. From practical point of view making y510p in weaker more problematic PC don't have much useful application - people were making such builds at least from time of Pentium 2 CPUs (at least I remember such attempts from that time) probably earlier, and it was always "for fun and knowledge" as you are loosing both PC and laptop virtues but keep vices of both of them (no mobility, high price, complicated build etc) and most users just want to get best part of those worlds. Although I support your approach as I'm as curious as You are how it will come out I tend to accept more practical direction and dismantling laptop screen and making it another stationary monitor don't fit with that, - but I have never claimed that your idea don't have sense, its just not very practical. We can be hostile towards each other or we can work together to squeeze as much of that laptop as we can manage - I would prefer the second outcome and I think our misunderstandings might be caused by language and cultural barrier/differences so I would ask You for a bit more forgiving approach to my comments - I really try not be aggressive in my statements but its hard to "feel" that in foreign language. From what we learned so far we know that we can use Gerald adapter with windows 8 and that we can use internal and external displays together - its possible that it was mended in newer AMD drivers or its specific graphic card related, from what I know no one has made extensive tries with this adapter and different AMD cards. I also started to look in to 4930mx OC and maybe I will get some solid results - If someone could provide full NCP81103 VRM integrated circuit datasheet it would help us immensely as without it I cant find out if it is able to withstand larger currents and what elements need to be changed on mobo to get rid of 85A limit from it (thou mosfet replacement would be a must as current high side ones have 85A limit). Thou we have different approach and we have various builds in mind we can definitely benefit from cooperation so if I can ask you that You would try to relax and just assign the things that annoy You in my posts to my language inaptness I would be really grateful.

Babbler I have exactly the same problem with the adapter so I'll try to fit it into additional ultrabay 750/755m chassis. I'm currently looking for broken card but if I can't find it ill use my working one and post the results. TheReciver firstly could you lessen a bit on your causticity ? I don't try to be hostile in my statements so you don't have a reason to be either. Secondly the reason for your setup is purely fun - it has no reasonable application as using mini or micro ITX would done the same job easier and simpler, if You would sell your Y510p also cheaper and with proper parts on parr with it considering electrical efficiency . Most of people who are interested in Gerald eGPU adapter have more practical approach. And about moving laptop from the desk surface - the simplest thing would be to set it below desk - like many people do with custom computers. Setting it in on the wall with additional raisers and external fans will only create more unsightly mess or maybe I totally don't have a proper picture of your placement idea. And pleas don't get me wrong I find your idea interesting, its obviously your choice what to do with your hardware, money and time, and I'm quite interested in what results you achieve, but as you posted your intentions on forum I have a right to discuss it and express My opinion about it. Now about the 4930mx overclocking, I've talked with electronic specialist and he claims (and probably rightly so) that 85A limit is built into VRM surrounding circuit as a safeguard and not soft coded into EC. So to get 4930mx to its full potential we would need a rather hefty hardware mode including exchanging mosfets and meddling with VRM. Right now I need fully working motherboard to test limits of 4930mx oc on 85A although from what he says going up to 95A allows using around 100w by CPU so those 10amps less should still be able to give us more than 3800mhz with 57w TP. Ill try to fiddle with hardware mode later on after Ill check what I can get with normal hardware configuration.

Hi Babbler I've bought modular fanless XFX XTS, coupled with Radon Fury X fan, it fits quite well behind my 27" monitor. Unfortunately I think there is small chance that someone will find a method to send signal from eGPU to the laptop screen my wild guess is it should be possible with bios and drivers modding but there's not enough demand for that so no one's digging, its the same situation as with Nvidia Cards - it should be possible to unlock them as Lenovo showed with newer bioses (which have AMD cards also blocked) that its software not hardware block but I guess its too much work for such small demand. So for now we are condemned to using external monitors only. But if we could build up solid community around this eGPU and collect enough money then we would probably be able to find someone advanced enough to help us with those problems. Unfortunately Gerlad makes those adapters just as a side job or even for fun and he neither plan to expand production nor want to improve them so its not very likely. The Reciver with all due respect that idea don't make much sense - its better to buy graphic card with multi monitor support and add smaller cheap used screen - when you disassemble laptop like that you lose all mobility and it would be much more convenient to buy small desktop on Mini or Nano ITX, probably it would be cheaper also. Actually even Your external fan mode is close to loosing all advantage of eGPU coupled laptop and that's why I didn't "got" the idea right away when you mentioned it. For me Gerald adapter is great because it allows me to have a cheap, small, light, efficient laptop that I can carry when needed, with very powerful graphic card for playing at home and all of it quite close to price of comparable Mini ITX desktop.

I guess it comes down to cultural differences, In Poland we still mostly live in real word (except the youngest part of population =/<20 years old) and virtual one is just an addition so people here tend not to care too much about their credibility online

I don't have high res camera that's for start, and I don't have full trust in "internet" knowledge - I'm old school in that matter and I prefer "face to face" consultations . I'll ask around on polish NHL forum. There are some people I know who work in laptop repair business.

I really doubt that posting pictures will help us I think it would be better if someone with proper knowledge look at it - I'm currently looking through y510p schematics but its mostly black magic for me. I think VRM is built around NCP81103 but that's about all I can decipher.

Firstly I would contact electronic engineer and ask him about estimation of power section durability. Ill try my local laptop repairman but ill doubt he will be able deduce that. If I recall correctly You are studying on some technical academy so maybe you could find someone who would try it ? If there will be enough overhead for some serious OC, at lest 400-500mhz than we can try to track down someone for EC unlocking.

Well that depends on what You mean by "substantial" ;). And the sense of such expenditure would hang on defining theoretical VRM and whole power section durability, if we could lets say go up to 80W of power for cpu (4.2-4.4ghz) without burning it out then we could think about money spending. I've already spent over a 1000$ on this "toy" so adding some extra bucks ain't that big of a deal.

Ghoul did you read what I wrote besides the part about throttlestop ? I'm well aware of EDP current limit - but from what I could see during my tries with 4930mx at 3.8ghz, CPU was throttled by TDP not EDP so there just might be a bit more overhead in EC limit, maybe enough to get to 4ghz under gaming load maybe not. As to VRM locking its definitely not a good thing - we can easily modify cooling for it but if EC doesn't allow changing current values then we are out of luck. Maybe we could find someone who could unlock it in EC for us?

TheReciver as I mentioned earlier I could falsify TDP CPU indication on my current mobo with powercut option from throttlestop and with addition of manually setting VCCIN around 2 volts but basing on the experience with this mobo I think that EDP Current limit is either set by EC or hard-coded into voltage controller and right around the corner - maybe well reach 4ghz stable on around 60 watts. I should be able to exchange new motherboard for proper one (if they have them) in a day or two and maybe ill check the previous one tomorrow so we'll see.

Klem well be thankful for your help - even if we wont be able to overclock cpu that way there is still quite a few interesting things in there And as I'm definitely not very advanced in y510p meddling its possible that someone else will get better results than I did (up until last month I was MSI boy mostly). TheReciver with both 3.05 stock and 3.05 unlocked I've got stuck on post with incompatible VGA card message

Well do TheReciver I tried to use unlocked 3.05 just to overclock 4930mx but it didn't work - only thing I manage to do was totally bricking the bios and now I have problem with mobo replacement unfortunately bios for y510p don't have this option that allows to falsify cpu power indication that MSI 4 gen does.

We both use 2.07 because Lenvo blocked use of Radeon cards in later versions just like all Nvida cards except 750/755m were blocked from the start.

The Reciver its possible that well be able to overclock mx cpus in y510p just with powercut option from Throttlestop iv manage to get it going on my current mobo but I cant properly test it as its limited by edp current not TDP. Btw You have mentioned that you plan to use bigger fan but I didn't know its for the outside I wonder how your setup will look after all additions seems to be a real franken mode. I use external picture hosting site for my files as I loath those 2mb limits