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I thought I remember one of the Clevo resellers stating there is no difference between them and DM2/DM3 are the identical except that the model naming convention is determine by the customer's choice in GPU configuration. In other words, if you order one 1080 or 1070 SLI you get what they have chosen to call a DM2, but if you order 1080 SLI you get what they are calling a DM3; but, they pull the same barebones chassis box off the shelf to fulfill the order regardless of what is being installed in the way of GPUs and heat sinks. If that is not correct, maybe one of them can clarify it. That may seem a bit confusing, but Clevo gave the P570WM a "3" at the end to signify a model with a 120Hz screen and eDP versus 60Hz LVDS. That was the only difference between the P570WM and P570WM3. That sounds right, same components except heatsink but the distributor likely has the dm3 box marked with the heatsink and 1080 sli already in it. But same components as for chassis and mb... If building from barebones, then same exact unit. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

Please read before posting!!! This has been asked and answered thousands of times all over multiple threads! 1080 sli = dm3 1080 single, 1070 sli = dm2 Theoretically you can get the single 1080 in the dm3, but no resellers are really doing that at the moment. The dm3 has the grid heatsink. It can also do 1070 sli, I believe, but no one is selling that option. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

Because of the pathetic cooling system on the P750ZM I have to run the little guy at 4.3GHz. I can do short benchmarks at 4.5GHz without AC, but anything serious requires AC cooling to avoid thermal throttling of the CPU. It benches fine at 4.7 and 4.8GHz using AC cooling, but that crappy little heat sink really is not made as well as it needs to be for a 4790K. Had they made it a little better that would be an outstanding little 15 inch beast. What's really weird about it is the 980M runs extraordinarily cool, even when the CPU is about to catch on fire and I am overclocking the crap out of the GPU. That's puzzling, but I'm very glad it's the CPU that needs help instead of the GPU. It took me about a month to get over the fact that I cannot bump the BCLK even a tiny little bit to get an accurate CPU clock speed that matches the core ratio. I hated that at first, but I eventually accepted it as inevitable. I wish I understood why it refuses to POST if there is any change to the BCLK... very weird glitch. I suspect that can't be fixed or@Prema would have already taken care of it a long time ago. So, it is what it is. Overall, it's doing a pretty darned good job at doing what I want it to and I'm glad I bought it all things considered. It's a pretty solid little machine. I love almost everything about it except for the poor quality cooling system for the CPU and the low end LCD. The screen isn't a big deal to me though. I've never been obsessed about display quality. It's adequate in that respect, just not as good as what I have been used to for about the last 8 years. I used to be at 4.5 24/7 until had to pull the heatsink. Now I'm 4.0 from laziness. Was hoping those new heatsink would work, but I'm starting to think a custom heatsink is the way to go... Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

I basically never overclock my GPUs except when I am benching. They run stock for normal use and for gaming. When I do any kind of serious GPU overclocking it's on AC cooling because I don't want to kill super expensive parts by cooking them to death. Now, CPU is a totally different story. My 6700K runs 4.7GHz 24/7 with c-states disabled and I goose it to 4.8GHz for benching. It runs cool enough for normal use just using the fans sitting on top of my modded U3. Plus, if I wear it out, 6700K is a cheap CPU and replacing it isn't a big deal. Since I don't have a BGA turdbook, a CPU replacement is a Philips screwdriver and tube of CLU away, and about 15 minutes of my time including delid. The CPU is expendable, but as cool as it runs I doubt I'll ever need to replace it. What's your 24/7 on the 4790k? Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

And if the single 1080 is running in a P775DM3, it only comes with a single 330W adapter. Won't it lack power then? Sorry to bother you so much, I am just anxious to spend my money "wisely" If worried, but the second 330 adapter and ask for the converter box! Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

I wonder if that shared hsf will hamper cpu overclocking and possibly gpu boost consistency once it is heat soaked? I was never a fan of shared hsf designs. I had hoped they would try something new like a vapor chamber to cool these monsters. We are pretty sure it is a vapor chamber the heat pipes are sitting on, not just a metal plate! Look for more pics of the sink to check and talk to resellers. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

The middle 8mm pipes both CPU and GPU side of the 775DM3 only cover half the radiator. It is nice to see clevo to start to use big 8mm pipes at least. I noticed and wondered about that too. I don't know if staffing like that distributed the heat more evenly over the fin array. Time will tell... Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

Most likely heat. Check out the p775DM3 heatsink and compare that to the new 750dm2! The extra heat offload with the extra pipes seem to be part of it, potentially... Either that or electrical specs... Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

Bro, do you know anymore about the previous gen upgrade that you might not have been able to say under NDA? Is 1) the 1080 P&P and compatible with the previous 980 HS. 2) the 1070 " " with SLI Apologies if you have answered this. Both cases, new heatsink are needed... Maybe not for the 1070 sli if using the msi cards, but definitely with the Clevo cards. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

What heatsink mod was done, if any, for the msi 1070 in the DM you saw? Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

Yeah. Will Dellienware came after with something similar or will they continue with their thin ECHO models?? You know the answer is the latter!!! Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

Look at the msi 1070 board. Don't know if you can make that overhang work or not... Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

Different memory forms! More differences I'm sure, but now begins the fight for who wins the form standard and compromises as they can now factory overclock cards for mobile... Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

That msi 1070 is damn sexy! What heatsink work with it in current zm/dm settings and can someone get a pic of both the p750 and p775 heatsink bottom side? Really can't wait to find out more, including the msi 1080 form factor... Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

It was, if they had the same monitor. Instead, only the 4K screen is offered. This means it costs more.

Can't wait to show what a Phoenix can do!!! (P870DM)

This isn't the ones from the OP, but I love this OC on my P770ZM with a 4790K!!! HWBotPrime = 5.1 WPrime - 32M = 5.0 Both at room temp! http://hwbot.org/submission/3024820_...0k_6343.68_pps http://hwbot.org/submission/3024824_...90k_4sec_864ms

No sli

The only thing I hate is Intel pushing back Skylake-E. X99 chipset would have half a year to a year before the new chipset comes out, while that socket revision will last until cannonlake-e. Also, I second d2's suggestion on both lvds and eDP unless the market will phase out lvds altogether... I'll write more later when I'm not on my phone.

I remember complaints on the speaker quality/signal shielding on the zm for some owners... Still thinking of other issues...

I wanted to add, maybe have nvlink sli available on machines asap. My prior comment on eGPU was talking of the obvious bottleneck and sli relating to them only. Nvlink and a good desktop mxm card would still be nice for Pascal in an sli machine... Edit: also supporting AMD radeon's version of this as well (if Greenland or arctic islands show promise)...

Help create mxm 3.0C standard (and get faster bandwidth too and from the card, like pcie 4... But @jaybee83 is right about needing it standard!

Sorry for the double post, I'm on my phone. Expand use of mxm desktop gpu - YES!!! Including sli options. Yes to mxm-bga (some like thinner and ability to upgrade) 13" super monster -I never buy less than 17", so I can't give a good answer. 18.4" model - YES as an alienware alternative, including sli desktop mxm. Also, this may be a candidate for a socket 2011 or an amd Zen processor (if and only if Zen is cheaper at price point and competitive benchmarks, which is unknown until next summer, unless Clevo can get a sample to decide whether it is worth developing). Storage - I like the idea of all m.2 with a fan or cooling in compartment. It also would free up space for more fin thickness, a fan in the area, oversized mxm cards, any needs hbm2 cooling would have, etc. The draw back is no hdd can be used. Some users like to move the hard drive physically to the new machine. This is impossible under this scenario. Also, price for m.2 pcie x4 nvme ssd is still high, although that will drop over that time. The m.2 satas cost the same as 2.5 ssds, so it's a wash (unless you need the drive space like 1tb or 2tb drives have in 2.5). If it meant more cooling/better mxm cards, definitely do 4 m.2 drives for a trade off!!! :-) Also, getting an 8k as soon as possible in that time would be awesome (at minimum in the 15", 17" (including sli model), and 18"sli models)! I saw Japan display released that. Cannot wait. Also eDP 1.3 (or any newer version out in that time). Are almost all of those panels going to be 40 or 50 pin? Anyways, until a better leap is made in eGPU for sli (not the Nvidia nvlink still requiring an extra cord for the additional speed) I don't see much pickup for it. But, developing a 660W ac pack would be nice for the sli mxm models![emoji83] that way you just have one unit (acceptable to have two power cords from the wall going to a single block, then one to the laptop). That's top of my head on what was asked. Also, two models of 18", one with performance desktop (socket 115x for i5/i7/e3) and the other with extreme desktop (socket 2011 vX for i7-E/e5) processors would cover all bases (with the later primarily if multi thread improves under directx 12). Also, if they could examine the use of k-core copper plates for the heatsink with media vias, that would rock! It is graphene core inside copper outside, and the vias is a break in the graphene to allow the heat to better enter into the high heat transfer graphene plane. I don't believe they have vertical graphene sheets to use as the core yet, but that would be awesome. Also, tighter QA tolerances on the heatsink plates for better contact (i know the p870dm heatsink looked better than my ZM before I started)!!! I can send info on the company that makes K-core of need be. I just want to maximize cooling for desktop 14/16nm gpus that are coming... And, as always, an unlocked Prema bios stock on all sli machines, or at least Clevo support for it!!!

Well, if Kaby lake is the same socket and chipset as Skylake, then you wouldn't need a new socket laptop to replace the P7X0DM until 2017 with cannonlake. This means, so long as mxm is an option, it is upgradeable and future resistant, leaving only the bga needing upgraded. I, of course, always would say mxm-bga over bga-bga. But the only laptop I may but in the next couple years would be the P870DM or a P570WM replacement. So I'm not exactly the target demographic...

What's your model and does it have optimus? Also video card model? If Maxwell, it only works with a modified Windows vbios flasher (get from Prema's website). As for the USB, make sure the bios is set for all usb ports on at start.