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    GTX970 + Dell DA-2 test results

    MSI have just announced a laptop with a 350watt power supply with a 4 pin connector. Maybe this could be used in the future instead of the Dell DA-2 220watt power supply? MSI's GT80 Titan is an Nvidia 980M SLI monster with a mechanical keyboard - PC Gamer
  2. Hi Nando4, Pics added. Sorry for the mess; I've got building work going on in my house so everything is covered in dust. I've seen this no limits BIOS before but I think the power supplied from the DA-2 is more restrictive than the BIOS limitations. Until I have done more testing with the current bios and power requirements + DA-2 I will not be overclocking the GTX 970 for gaming. For the benchmarks above I just added a +100 clock speeds to see if it would crash, I wasnt actually trying to overclock and I have no idea as to the overclocks long term or in game stability. Until I have identified what is causing the BSOD during Far Cry 3 at stock clocks I do not intend to overclock for gaming.
  3. Hi guys, Sorry for the long break in communication and updates but I work in retail and it has been manic,plus I knew I was about to install a new SSD drive with a clean install of windows so I wanted to document it from a fresh start so none of my instructions are workarounds for quirks in my install. Parts used: ZOTAC GTX 970 PE4C 2.1b with mPCIe adapter Dell DA-2 220 watt power supply. Setup 1.x from Nando4 Limitations: 1. Restart computer will cause a no boot. Use shutdown then start up again instead. 2. Sleep and hibernate don't work either. 3. Your shitty inbuilt keyboard will no longer fit flush. although it still works it is advised to use an external keyboard. 4. Your laptop will be less portable unless you are happy to leave the mPCIe card unscrewed. Quirks, workarounds and optionalbits: 1. The l702x uses a dynamic max TOLUD which means it auto adjusts the size of the TOLUD to whatever is plugged into it when it starts. Now this should mean we don't need to do any DSDT override, except the laptop will not boot if it detects the eGPU . With the modified A19 bios you candisable the dynamic TOLUD and set the max TOLUD size, though it seems like that feature does not work at this time, unless I am doing something wrong. 2. My laptop has the modified A19 BIOS.This is not essential but I find that disabling my PCIe Port 1 in the BIOS (F2 at startup, advanced, southbridge config, SB PCIe config,PCIe port 1 config, disable) then re-enabling it in setup 1.x with a hot reset can make eGPU detection at startup more reliable. Disassembly: This is really easy. I've listed the steps below but it can be hard to visualise. You can follow this guys video up until the 4:25 mark. Here is another video guide. You do not need to remove the palm rest or keyboard cables, just lift the keyboard through the gap in the palm rest. 1. Flip the laptop over, remove the RAM/HDD cover. 2. To the left of your hard drives there is a screw that holds in your DVD/Blu-ray disc drive. remove this screw, then pull the disc drive out. 3. Where the disc drive used to sit are 3 small screws in a line holding the palm rest to the chassis. Remove these three screws. 4. Flip the laptop onto it's side and push on the little button shaped piece near the screw holes. This will lift the palm rest. Shove a credit card or spudger into the gap between the chassis and the palm rest. slide the card all the way around the palm rest to pop up all the little catches until the palm rest is free. 5. VERY CAREFULLY hinge the palm rest towards your chest. All the cables (power, touch pad and quickset buttons) attach under the touchpad area. If you lift the palm rest incorrectly you could damage these cables and your computer will not turn on again!. 6. VERY CAREFULLY lift the keyboard up and through the gap where the keyboard used to sit. The keyboard cable is quite short so be careful. 7. Place the palm rest back down with the keyboard now on top of the palm rest. Click the palm rest back down. This should leave the keyboard free to be lifted so you can see and access the WWAN port. 8. Replace the 3 screws in the bottom of the palm rest, then replace the disc drive and disc drive screw.Be careful as the keyboard no longer lays flush and may damage your screen if put under too much pressure. 9. replace the RAM/HDD cover. Installing the eGPU: Step 1 > DSDT Override If you follow this guide it is easy. It talks about having all the GPU active at once but I have not tested this. From what I have read splitting the PhysX across two GPU does not yield that great a performance boost.http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/3539-guide-dsdt-override-simultaneous-igpu-dgpu-egpu.html#post49833 Step 2 > Install Setup 1.x,following the instructions sent to you by NANDO4. Step 3 > Uninstall NVIDIA drivers,graphics card etc. 1. prevent device manager auto install:This is to stop windows from reinstalling your dGPU every time you uninstall it. Open "devices and printers", right click on your computer icon and click "device installation settings".Click "no..." and "Never..." click OK. 2. Uninstall your NVIDIA drivers through "uninstall a program...". NVIDIA install 4 pieces of software so uninstall the one the says "driver" and the others will automatically be removed. 3. Shutdown your computer Step 4 > Attach your eGPU. Plug your eGPU into the WWAN port under your keyboard. Flick the SW2 Switch to position 2 on your PE4c 2.1b. This enables CLKRUN delay which allows the computer to boot without hot plugging. Screw the mPCIe card into the WWAN port using a small screw. Step 5 > Run Setup 1.x 1. Start the computer. at the options screen DIY eGPU Setup 1.x. 2. Select “menu based”. 3. From this point on you will need to load some instructions into the chainloader. to do this press F3. 4. Select PCI Ports > hot reset >P1 (NVIDIA) . press F3 once completed. 5. Select PCI Ports > Gen2 speeds >select Port 1 (NVIDIA), confirm retrain. press F3 once completed. 6. Select PCI compaction > Select Endpoint 4.0GB. Select ignore [dGPU]. Run PCI compaction on iGPU and eGPU. accept the red warning notice to disable dGPU once completed. 7. Select Video Cards > disable dGPU by pressing enter on dGPU. Press F3. 8. Select startup.bat, select speedup. Press F3. 9. Click “Test Run”. 10. Select Chainloader, change to MBR1. Select “test run”. 11. This will return you to the booting options menu, this time select windows 7. Step 6 > Configure windows 1. On first boot it will detect the graphics card and install it as generic VGA adapter. Shutdown your computer (do not restart, restart will cause no boot). 2. Startup your computer, select setup1.x, then select chainload, then select windows 7. Windows will now detect your graphics card properly but will not install graphics drivers for it (because we told it not to). 3. Download the latest driver for your card from the NVIDIA site. Run the installer, selecting advanced,then tick clean install. If the installer wishes to restart, shutdown your computer before it auto restarts, then start it up again going through setup 1.x, then chainloader, then windows 7. 4. Once installed you will need to shutdown your computer, then start it up again going through setup 1.x,then chainloader, then windows 7. Check in device manager, you should see GTX 970 listed under graphics devices with no warning symbols.Success! Press windows key + P to select "projector only"to test it is working to your external screen. DA-2 Power limitations: The GTX 970 is a hungry beast, and although NVIDIA listed its TDP as 150watt it actually draws over 300watt on full load. This can cause issues with the Dell DA-2 power supply. In addition the DA-2 is not designed to deal with rapid changes in voltage requirements, which can cause power starvation to your card and BSOD. 1. NVIDIA control panel: open the NVIDIA control panel and select "manage 3D settings. Select "prefer high performance NVIDIA Processor” Scroll down the list of settings until you see "Power Management Mode. Select "prefer maximum performance". This limits reduces the amount of voltage ramping and voltage changes and improves stability. 2. MSi AfterBurner: Use this tool to limit the power requirements of the GTX 970. By default it can boost the power requirements over 150 watt and outrun the DA-2 power supply. To the right of the power limit slider is an arrow, click this, then uncheck the "link" button.This allows temps to reach the default 79*c even when running at reduced power limits. adjust the power limit to 80%. This will limit the constant running to 80% but still allow it to boost to 99%. 80% was found by my trial and error so YMMV. adjust the core clock to -100 (make sure you put te minus in!) This will reduce core clocks to the reference 1077mhz. (different cards are overclocked to different limits so YMMV, adjust accordingly). Click apply, save it to a preset. Test, then click the "apply overclock at system startup". 3. Monitoring: I use GPU-Z to monitor what the card is doing so if I get a BSOD I can try to work out why. Run GPU-Z, click sensors, then click"log to file" down the bottom. this will log details of the cards performance and vital signs to a text file for reference later. ---------------------------------------------------- Benchmark results: Firestrike (default) @ 80% power (99% peak), -100 clock (peak 1177mhz) - 8802 Graphics http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3372912 Firestrike (default) @ 100% power (109% peak), Stock clock (Peak 1278mhz) - 9724 graphics http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3372937 Firestrike (default) @ 106% power (116% peak), +100 clock (peak 1377mhz) - 10220 Graphics http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3372960 Firestrike (default) @ 106% power (118% peak), +200 clock (peak 1478mhz) - 10625 Graphics http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3372996 This gives us about 80% PCIe efficiency at stock clocks. This also puts my laptop 1500 points above the GTX 970m and at the same level as a GTX 980m. Photos:
  4. RE: GTX970 W/Dell DA-2 power supply: I have done some more testing and although not yet conclusive I am seeing a pattern. I have been experimenting with MSi Afterburner to adjust power requirements and I believe we are simply running out of power from the 220 watt Dell DA-2. Possible causes: Efficiency: Lets assume the DA-2 has 75%-80% full load efficiency (which seems to be reported by some picoPC forums). This gives us a power of 165 - 176 watts available. The GTX 970 reference card is rated at 145 watt TDP. Zotac do not state what their cards max TDP is, but we shall assume it is slightly more due to the slight overclock and dual fan cooling, lets say 150 watt. Now GPU-Z reports the power consumption boosts to 110% of TDP when required. This gives us a peak power consumption of 165 watt, exactly what the DA-2 can provide @75% efficiency. Bullshit power ratings: Midway through writing this post I found this review detailing the exact power requirements of the GTX 970 and 980 cards: A New Power Consumption Test Setup - Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 And 980 Review: Maximum Maxwell There are 3 pages of power consumption results and it is well worth a read through all three as it is very interesting. In summary NVIDIA lied about the power consumption and although it's average power consumption is lower than similar performing cards it peak and requirements under gaming load are just as high or higher, at times peaking up to 300 watt and consistently sitting around 250 watt under full load. After reading this I am surprised I can run this thing at all from the Dell DA-2 220 watt power supply! Voltage/Current: The toms hardware article clearly shows that at times the card requires more than 12 volts. the DA-2 has been shown to operate closer to 11.7v than 12, and with the GTX 970 peaking over 13v and spending much of its time over 12.5v. Although the GTX 970 is not shown, the GTX 980 shows amperage spikes over 20A and up to 24A at times. This is significantly more than the DA-2 can provide. Software Solutions: I have had some success here and have not had a bluescreen with these settings yet. Underclocking - I have dropped my core clock speeds down by 100mhz, bringing the core clock down to the same as the NVIDIA reference cards (1177mhz). Power throttling - When set to 100% the card boosted to 110%. I have adjusted the "power" slider in MSi Afterburner to 80%. This is to prevent the card from exceeding the 145 watt TDP. The card still boosts to 94% peak, even when limited to 80%. Driver Tweaks - In NVIDIA control panel i have changed the power management mode to "prefer maximum performance". This locks the card at 1177mhz clock speed and prevents sudden fluctuations in power requirements. The default is set to "adaptive" which specifically fluctuates the power to reduce overall power consumption but with unknown effects on peak draw. There is another option labelled "prefer consistent performance" but I cannot find out exactly what it does or how it differs from Max performance. I would assume it disables boost but I've done that manually with the underclock. Hardware Solutions: Standard ATX power supply - and live with the fan noise, mess and size. A big-ass capacitor - This would smooth out the voltage and current peaks and drops during unexpected power loads. Link two DA-2 together? - Cut and link the 2 sets of signal cables together but run one DA-2 to the PE4C to provide power to the board and PCI slot, then convert the other DA-2 to a PCI power plug to power the card directly. Both would turn on at the same time from the signal cables but would double the available power. Corrections on GPU-Z PerfLimit Basically any reason given is the reason the card has reached peak performance, not necessarily a fault. It is normal for GPU-Z to display something here, as the card is either under utilised (util) or at maximum performance. Vop + VMax = graphics card has reached maximum voltage permitted through drivers (1.2v) though may not have reached maximum clock speeds. Pwr = Card is running at max clock speeds but does not require full voltages. pwr + Vop + VMax = everything is maxed ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT: I have just finished a 3 hour gaming session in Far Cry 3 without a single issue i kept the clocks at 1177mhz max but upped my power limit to 90%, which produced power peaks of 98% and GPU loads of 98% (interestingly GPU-Z logs show the card has never exceeded 98% load under any test, benchmark or configuration). Temps remained constant at 75*C and fan speed never exceeded 50%. Interestingly the Voltages averaged 1.1620, and the card spent very little time at the 1.2v max. The DA-2 is now quite warm to the touch but has not tripped into protection mode, making me think it is overcurrent or overvoltage protection that is the issue, not thermal.
  5. rossysaurus

    eGPU experiences [version 2.0]

    Hi Nando, I will re-write the guide with some pictures when i have some time and once I have ironed out all the issues (still can't reboot my laptop with blackscreen - no boot) I have just retested the issue with the PSU on risers with an 80mm cooling fan and it crashed very quickly. Now I don't think it is thermal protection but over voltage/current protection. Looking through the GPU-Z log file it reads as though the DA-2 cannot deliver the power required by the GTX 970. For anyone interested here are the codes for GPU-Z PerfCap Reason in GPU-Z log. 1 - Total Power Insufficient 2 - Thermal Limits Exceeded, Performance Reduced 4 - Voltage Delivery Unreliable 8 - Max Voltage insufficient 16 - Card Not Fully Utilised (Max Performance Not Required) These can be added together when multiple factors are at play, for example I got error 1 (total power), Error 12 (Max voltage unreliable and insufficient) error 13 (not enough total power, unreliable and insufficient voltage). After testing some MSi Afterburner I have discovered that reducing the GPU clock speed does nothing to eradicate the Voltage errors, however reducing the "power %" bar to 80% seems to remove these voltage errors and give the generic power error instead, which is to be expected. interestingly the card drops the voltage from 1.2v to 1.175v but clock speeds do not seem to affected. What was it doing with that extra 20% power? I've not got time tonight to test it with Far Cry 3 or benchmarks but I will give it a go when I have some time. What are the chances of plugging a second DA-2 into the ATX power supply socket through an adaptor? Or rigging two DA-2 together through an adaptor, then plugging them into either the DA2 socket or ATX socket? I can pick up DA2's for £10 each, but a suitable ATX power supply will cost me £30-£40.
  6. rossysaurus

    eGPU experiences [version 2.0]

    Hi guys, everything has been going well with my PE4C 2.1 and GTX970, until last night when my Dell DA-2 power supply overheated and shut itself off. My laptop blue screened mid game after about 2 hours of playing and the light on the DA-2 power supply which is normally green when active and an amber when off had gone out. I rebooted about 5 times in various configurations with no signs of life from the PSU (PE4C had only 1 solid red light on, the two green lights did not illuminate like normal) and the laptop would not detect the GPU. I fetched my problem-solving whisky and by the time I had poured a glass the amber light came back and and the system booted normally. My question(s): 1. Has anyone else experienced overheating DA-2 power supplies? 2. What can i do to stop it happening again? I check my GPU-Z logs and the graphics card was running at full load with the TDP power rating at or slightly over 100% (presumably from GPU boost), though temperatures sat at 78*C and the fans did not rise above 50% so I do not think it was the fault of the graphics card. For tonight I have propped the power supply up on little legs to improve airflow but because the entire thing is encased in plastic I do not think the DA-2 is particularly well designed for heat dissipation and I doubt it was ever designed to run full power. Based on ~75% efficiency of the power supply and the 150 watt TDP of the GTX 970 I estimate that the boost TDP reported by GPU-z is still within limits of the DA-2 220watt power supply, but only just (Both 165 watt). the new version of GPU-Z 0.8.0 I have just installed has an option called "PerfCapReason" which tells you why the GPU has decreased it's power, giving reasons such as Power, Temperature, Voltage Reliability, Operating Voltage and Utilisation. This could be really useful in my use since power through the DA-2 may not be as consistent as an ATX power supply. I will see if it reports anything.
  7. rossysaurus

    Setup 1.30 Discussion

    Hi Matey, I haven't taken any pictures yet (I've just got back from a VERY long weekend with no sleep) but I will endeavour to take some pictures this week. it's not looking pretty right now because it is still in "easy access" testing mode with all cables and switches in easy reach. I've also got to do some serious cable organising The DA-2 220p was easy to plug in, it went in the labelled slot on the PE4C 2.1 and then the 8 pin -> 2x 6+2 connectors went from the PE4C into the ZOTAC graphics card. I only needed 2 6 pin connectors for this card since it is pretty low clocked out-the-box.
  8. Hi guys, It seems the only reliable way for me to activate the eGPU is to sleep/hot plug/resume with SW1 and SW2 on #1. I am completely unable to use the eGPU from boot. Im sure there is a way to set the SW1 and SW2 switches to enable use from boot to windows but I cant work it out. I did DSDT override (huge thanks to angerthosenear for such a clear guide) which seems to have done a whole load of nothing, but at least I can discount it as a problem factor. CLKRUN delay (SW2) seems to allow it to boot into setup 1.3 without hotplugging but not into windows (just reinstalls as generic VGA adapter). SW2 #1 prevents boot, #2 allows bot into 1.3 and onto windows but with no eGPU support, #3 does the same as #2 but slower. Can anybody explain if PCI reset delay would be useful? So far all it seems to do is prevent the laptop booting if used without SW2 and slows down boot if used with SW2. Also i noticed some sockets labelled J2 and J3; are these jumpers for something and if so what do they do? I really wanted to avoid hotplugging the mPCIe card so any help with getting it to boot would be great. Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT: I've finally got it all working perfectly from boot with no hotplugging. YAY!!! 1. I disabled port 1 (used for eGPU) in my bios. 2. set SW1 (PCI reset delay) to position 1 (off), SW2 (CLKRUN) to position 2 (short delay). 3. I added a "port 1 hot reset" to my Setup 1.3 startup.bat Now it boots perfectly. I think this works because it prevents the laptop from detecting the eGPU during POST but detects it before loading windows.
  9. rossysaurus

    Setup 1.30 Discussion

    YYYYYYEEESSSSS!!!!!! IT'S ALLIIIIIVE! Ahem, yeah, it works. Specs/setup: Zotac GTX970 PE4C 2.1b, mPCIe into WWAN port. Dell DA-2 220p power supply. I7-2630QM 6GB ram Windows 7 professional Notes: I still cannot restart my laptop, I get black screen and no post. Shutdown/startup works instead, or unplugging mPCIe before the screen goes black, selecting "setup 1.3" - "chainload startup.bat" then hotplugging during scan. Switches were set to SW2 (CLKRUN) - 2, SW1 (PCI delay/PERST) - 1/off. PC would not boot if SW1 was in any other position, would boot if SW2 was in 3 but 2 worked better (less delay). This took about 15 hours to get working, although 14 hours of that were failures. This took half a bottle of scotch whisky. Steps taken: 1. fail 400 times 2. undo all your past failures. 3. uninstall dGPU from device manager and uninstall NVIDIA graphics drivers completely, preferably by running "display driver uninstaller" in normal mode. Disable device manager auto install (open devices and printers, right click your computer icon, click device installation preferences, click NO - Never install). run "display driver uninstall" again, this time select safe mode. 4. restart or shutdown/startup if you have boot issues. Device manager should then install your dGPU as "generic VGA adapter". Shutdown again. 5. plug in mPCI card. Boot to windows. 6. windows should detect your graphics card as "generic VGA adapter". shutdown. 7. restart into Setup 1.3. Setup 1.3 - F3 saves to chainload settings.1. Go to PCI compaction, select 32-bit 4gb limit. 2. Select "ignore dGPU" 3. run PCI compact on eGPU only. 4. Go to video adapters, disable dGPU. press F3. 5. Go to PCI settings, enable Gen2 on eGPU port. press F3 6. Go to chainload, select MBR (not MBR2, this gave me HDD not detected errors) 7. open startup settings, select fast boot. 8. Click test run, it should OK everything. 9. Go to chainload, click test run, it should take you back to the "boot windows or setup 1.3" menu. Click windows. Windows/Driver install 1. Windows should now detect your external graphics card with no Code 12 error, though may have code 14 (needs restart).Your dGPU should not appear. 2. Install NVIDIA drivers. reboot though 1.3 chainload startup.bat. Reboot again though 1.3 chainload startup.bat. 3. System may give you error 43 (device disabled due to error report). Put the computer to sleep. unplug mPCIe card once asleep, replug, then resume from sleep. wait 2 minutes and the error should clear. This is the stage I am at. When i have some more time I will update this thread with more results. the only benchmark i have run so far has been 3dmark firestrike, with a result of 7645 total, 9590 graphics, 6617 physx (CPU), combined 3343. I will run a full 3D Mark 13 when i have some time. Unusual problems encountered: Windows detected my GTX 970 as a 6800 LE, a standard 6800, a GeForce networking adapter, a 3d graphics adapter (apparently not the same a s VGA adapter) and refused to detect it at all. all of these were fixed by right clicking the device and selecting "update driver" - "I will pick driver" - "select driver from list" - "Generic VGA adapter. If that didnt work a reboot did. Problems: I still cannot reboot without black screen before POST + no boot. Biggest problem. Does anyone have a solution? Sleep sometimes is disabled which prevents sleep/resume hotplugging. it appears to be related to the state/error code shown by the graphics card though i haven't worked it out yet.
  10. Now Windows has detected m GTX970 as an NVIDIA 6800 LE and installed drivers for it but NVIDIA will not recognise it.... Another problem I have is when my laptop restarts the eGPU stops completely; no fan noise, no action, and more importantly POST or no boot, just a black screen. Ive tried all the SW1 PERST# switches (no effect except it prevents normal startup as well) Ive only found success with SW2 CLKRUN on #2. #1 and #3 do no boot at all. Nothing I do will make the eGPU remain active during restart, nor reactivate during restart. Can anyone help as to what the hell is going on and what I should do!? P.S - hotplugging is impossible as my keyboard is holding in my mPCIe card and if I remove the keyboard my laptop will not boot. -- YYYYYYEEESSSSS!!!!!! IT'S ALLIIIIIVE! Ahem, yeah, it works. Specs/setup:Zotac GTX970 PE4C 2.1 (not PE4L), mPCIe into WWAN port. Dell DA-2 220p power supply. 17" Dell XPS L702X, i7-2630QM 2.0, 6GB RAM, GT550M dGPU Windows 7 professional Notes: I still cannot restart my laptop, I get black screen and no post. Shutdown/startup works instead, or unplugging mPCIe before the screen goes black, selecting "setup 1.3" - "chainload startup.bat" then hotplugging during scan. Switches were set to SW2 (CLKRUN) - 2, SW1 (PCI delay/PERST) - 1/off. PC would not boot if SW1 was in any other position, would boot if SW2 was in 3 but 2 worked better (less delay). This took about 15 hours to get working, although 14 hours of that were failures. This took half a bottle of scotch whisky. Steps taken: 1. fail 400 times 2. undo all your past failures. 3. uninstall dGPU from device manager and uninstall NVIDIA graphics drivers completely, preferably by running "display driver uninstaller" in normal mode. Disable device manager auto install (open devices and printers, right click your computer icon, click device installation preferences, click NO - Never install). run "display driver uninstall" again, this time select safe mode. 4. restart or shutdown/startup if you have boot issues. Device manager should then install your dGPU as "generic VGA adapter". Shutdown again. 5. plug in mPCI card. Boot to windows. 6. windows should detect your graphics card as "generic VGA adapter". shutdown. 7. restart into Setup 1.3. Setup 1.3 - F3 saves to chainload settings.1. Go to PCI compaction, select 32-bit 4gb limit. 2. Select "ignore dGPU" 3. run PCI compact on eGPU only. 4. Go to video adapters, disable dGPU. press F3. 5. Go to PCI settings, enable Gen2 on eGPU port. press F3 6. Go to chainload, select MBR (not MBR2, this gave me HDD not detected errors) 7. open startup settings, select fast boot. 8. Click test run, it should OK everything. 9. Go to chainload, click test run, it should take you back to the "boot windows or setup 1.3" menu. Click windows. Windows/Driver install 1. Windows should now detect your external graphics card with no Code 12 error, though may have code 14 (needs restart).Your dGPU should not appear. 2. Install NVIDIA drivers. reboot though 1.3 chainload startup.bat. Reboot again though 1.3 chainload startup.bat. 3. System may give you error 43 (device disabled due to error report). Put the computer to sleep. unplug mPCIe card once asleep, replug, then resume from sleep. wait 2 minutes and the error should clear. This is the stage I am at. Unusual problems encountered: Windows detected my GTX 970 as a 6800 LE, a standard 6800, a GeForce networking adapter, a 3d graphics adapter (apparently not the same a s VGA adapter) and refused to detect it at all. all of these were fixed by right clicking the device and selecting "update driver" - "I will pick driver" - "select driver from list" - "Generic VGA adapter. If that didnt work a reboot did. Problems: I still cannot reboot without black screen before POST + no boot. Biggest problem. Does anyone have a solution? Sleep sometimes is disabled which prevents sleep/resume hotplugging. it appears to be related to the state/error code shown by the graphics card though i haven't worked it out yet. Benchmark results 3dmark13-FS.gpu=9760 When i have some more time I will update this thread with more results. the only benchmark i have run so far has been 3dmark firestrike, with a result of 7705 total, 9760 graphics, 6653 physx (CPU), combined 3328.
  11. rossysaurus

    BPlus PE4C V3/V2 discussion

    My PE4C turned up today via DHL. They charged me an additional £18 in import duty, £8 of which was "admin". we shall see how this goes!
  12. I saw this too. What are the chances this interfaces with MXM instead of thunderbolt? Alienware have used SLI mobile chips before, I dont know if that means their Mobo have 2x MXM slots. Maybe one is used for external and the other for the 860m? It will be interesting to see if they can use the external for graphics and internal for PhysX.
  13. rossysaurus

    eGPU experiences [version 2.0]

    No I have the non 3D version with the crappy resolution screen. Biggest regret with this laptop was not getting the upgraded screen and the backlit keyboard, but that won't matter for long (keyboard is coming out to fit the mPCi connector, screen is not going to be used once I receive my parts). Just so you know I am attempting this with a Zotac GTX 970. It was the shortest double fan model i could find so should fit nicely on the PE4C and have great cooling while still being energy efficient enough for the D220 power supply. The 5 year warranty is a nice option too. It is one of the slowest clocked cards available but that isn't so much of an issue since I'm not squeezing every bit of power from it anyway.
  14. rossysaurus

    eGPU experiences [version 2.0]

    That powerless release was perfectly timed. Just purchased the PE4C 0W from that site and a brand new Dell DA-2 220p off ebay for £10. Once they arrive I will order your 1.x setup software and the GTX970, then we can get cooking.
  15. rossysaurus

    eGPU experiences [version 2.0]

    Hi guys, been reading the forums for about a week and gone through all the implementation guides but these two adaptors seem quite new / unused with mPCIe systems. My laptop does not have express port or thunderbolt so my only option is the mPCIe socket. I noticed the PE4L/H/C series have CLKRUN switches to delay the PCI detection. Do I actually need this for mPCIe or can I use the much cheaper EXP GDC V6 without needing to hot plug on each boot? From what I have read my laptop does not have whitelisting enabled, Plan 1: EXP GDC V6 - mPCIe Dell DA-2 220watt NVIDIA GTX970 Plan 2: PE4C - mPCIe with CLKRUN delay switches Dell DA-2 220watt NVIDIA GTX970 Specs: i7-2630QM HM67 chipset 6GB Ram NVIDIA GT555m 3gb with Intel HD3000 in Optimus config. Thanks guys
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