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If you are not certain about doing it dont use the liquid but MX-4. The performance is very good too and its no risk. But if you want to risk it you should only use the liquid on the CPU when it is pulled out from the mainboard to exclude any risks. Dont use it for the GPU since you cant remove it from the board.

M14x R1 is an epic fail in thermal design. Let Dell try to repair it 3 times then ask for a replacement M14x R2 cause the heat and throttling problems cant be solved. Best advise i can give you. Even with repasting it still throttles cause of heat. If you dont want to go thru the Dell services - turn off turbo and let it repaste then it should be nearly ok for WOW at least.

Still not sure but if you mean where to put the liquid ultra on id only apply it on the cpu since 1) it needs most cooling efficiency and 2) you can remove the cpu and apply it safely away from the board. hope thats what you wanted to know.

Yes thats right i bought mine from ebay. I was lucky to find a private seller who maybe wanted to push his reputation and sold them one by one for 1 Euro each. Next step is to use low profile small copper heatsinks for the CPU together with liquid metal paste. Maybe in a week or so.. will post results with pics then.

These are the temps while running 3dmark vantage + max OC with svl7`s VBIOS mod. Waaay cooler than before! At the moment we also have very high ambient temps of 27 C in my living room (damn summer). edit: Maybe it has nothing to do with this but i found the test graphics feels like running much more fluent. Before i think i can rememer a bit of a tearing effect which has gone now.

sorry forgot to make pics :/ But its easy to do this mod. you only have to remove the cover + battery ofc. Then remove 2 screws from below. Then peel off the keyboard surrounding plastics. Then remove the keyboard and right below it sits the PCH lid and the PCH itself on the right side. here are some pics to show you (not my own): PCH location copper shim 15mm x 15mm x 1mm fits perfect dont buy a more thick one it could be a problem maybe.

Hi all, since im using my M14x R2 mainly with an external monitor my PCH temps were quite a bit too high for my taste. So i bought a copper shim of 15mm x 15mm x 1mm to put it between the lid and the chip. The PCH is the most important chip right after the CPU and GPU so i thought it needed proper cooling too. I also removed all stickers on the lid and backside of the keyboard since its not good for passive cooling too. Then i repasted this chip (->which comes only with a crap cooling stripe factory wise) with IC Diamond and put the copper shim between the chip and lid. I used the drop method and let the lid pressure spread it evenly. These are the results: before mod in idle: with mod in idle: Since its a passive cooling mod its mainly for idle cause the temps cant go down that good due to the lack of active cooling. While gaming or other PCH stressing activity i had up to 78 C on that thing. Now i guess it will rarely hit 70 C. Will post the stresstest temp results later.

Only tessellation was on max and resolution was 1920x1080 on external monitor the rest was standard settings after installing it. And yes its svl7 awesome unlocked VBIOS for higher OC clocks of the GPU. Dont be frustrated. I had to let Dell replace my board 2 times before i got this stable GPU. The first was good it was completly new but they wanted to replace it, the second was crap and crashed even at 135mhz OC. The one i have now is refurbished but exceptional good compared to the last one i got. So an OC of 250-260 seems common for most users here and is not bad and not very good for this card. But on the other hand my PCH is really bad on this board. I never had one which has such high temps... so there are good and bad sites as you can see.

Thanks thats enough for me being confident buying one. 400 Euro doesnt sound too much for one. Btw do you think an 3920xm is even cooler at standard clock speed than the 3820qm? Im not yet planning to OC the CPU at all only temps are important to me. Hell i wish there was an i7-3667u to buy somewhere even it has way lower performance. But 17W sounds too good for me^^.

Im planing to buy me a ES version of a 3820qm from ebay for 400 Euro. Any experience with Engineering Samples or Qualification Samples?

ugh dont tell me this lol^^

So i turned extreme tessellation on and let it run for about 1 hour. No artifacts and temps were pretty much the same. frames dropped alot from average 40 to about 20-25 max. runs absolutely stable. and again TSW is way more demanding. Here is the score with 350mhz OC, extreme tessellation and full hd: And this is the same without OC: btw i wanted to see when heaven crashes and oced to 380mhz. At test 2 it began to get artifacts and crashed at test 6. This is how high i OCed it in detail:

Ok was a bit curious and tested this heaven tool lol. Its not demanding at all. The fans didnt even kick in with max OC. Here is my result: Temps of my CPU barely reach 73 C. When i play TSW temps are min 78 C for the same duration running it. GPU also was very low at 62 C. See pic below:

Hm sounds like i have to test this heaven tool. How do i see in this tool if its stable? Will it crash if not? I dont know this tool since im not a hardcore gamer... Anyone got a crashed system cause of it yet? ^^ Im not a friend of Furmark too cause its unrealistic extreme stresstest the GPU would never see in real usage.

Well with max OC i can run its possible for me to play TSW in ultra settings + full HD on external monitor. My fps are about 25-30 which is awesome for this demanding game. Without the mods highest for me possible OC i had to run it in mid settings + full HD with nearly the same fps 30fps+). I was playing for max 2 hours per session. Only the CPU temps and the PCH temps were relatively high then (83 C CPU highest core / 78 C PCH temps). GPU never went higher than 64 C. Its only repasted with MX-4 not liquid metal yet. Sorry but i dont use heaven or crysis 2. But TSW should work the same way i dont know a more demanding game - bf3 is very low compared to TSW. And yes this unlocked bios rocks

Any news from your LV3 request [MENTION=4186]Alienware-Frank_L[/MENTION]? Its 1 week ago you wanted to clear that out.

Thats the answer i was looking for. +1 for you in my hall of fame...again^^. However when i understand correctly its the same difference why a chip gets the name f.e. i7-3610qm (low quality chip) or i7-3820qm (high quality chip). The difference is that they are technically the same chip but run stable at lower or higher clocks. And the same goes for the GT 650m but within the same model number even. So the conclusion is when deadbydawn has a i7-3610qm like GT 650m and i have a i7-3720qm GT 650m the one with a i7-3820qm has yet to walk into this forum and show us a max OC of like +400 mhz that is stable and what results he gets by your VBIOS mod since this would be the max possible unlocked OC.

Thats the logical part i could answer myself. I was looking for a more techi based answer

And why can i OC it to 350 and you only to 327? Since temps are no problem at all.

Yeh thats why i was asking why you got the worse GPU score. What can be the differences between the same specc GPU to another? Heat is definetly not the problem. Specially not from the GPU. And CPU never went past 83 C with highest OC. Any ideas someone?

My GPU score is even higher than from deadbydawn. I wonder why since he has the better CPU. NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Alienware M14xR2 score: P13698 3DMarks

Ive just submitted the first M14x R2 score. Dunno how to link the statistics here.

This was the highest OC i could run stable on my system and just achieved a new category for my config! CHEERS M8! NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Alienware M14xR2 score: P13698 3DMarks At 360+ clock OC it begins to become unstable. Maybe my incoming heatsink mods + liquid metal repaste im planning will provide max OC capabilitys.

What does this mean? "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to svl7 again." i want to thank you not anyone else lol. However YOU are amazing and thanks alot im only waiting now to test your final version of stock / unlocked BIOS and see how high i can get my 3dmark vantage score . Hopefully the upload server will be ready soon i cant wait.

Since svl7 was so helpful for me and the techi comm at all here i wanted to contribute something too. In my opinion its the most effective and productive forum cause of all the modders and competent people here. IC Diamond has in my opinion now maybe the only advantage of longlivity vs MX-4. The few differences in temperature is not worth the scratches on the surfaces. Only the liquid ultra seems to have a real advantage over the standard TIMs (or any other liquid metal TIM). Sanding the copper heatsink surface to remove it was very easy and quick too. Ofc it leaves some scratches then but thats no prob. However since it needs no cure time and always performs the same it may be that it will really last for years but that needs some longer tests ^^. I would not prefer IC Diamond over MX-4 but thats my personal opinion. The gain is too few specially under load. I would always use a liquid metal paste from now on and since the liquid ultra is the easiest to apply and remove (for a loss of maybe 1 degree compared to other liquids) i vote for this one. Maybe i should ask them for some advertising money now but i guess its too late