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Guys, I want you to keep this at a polite level, for trolling and flaming go to NBR, no need for this here. If you want to hear my opinion: Skinneelab used IC Perihelion, which is not IC Diamond, as 0x29A already mentioned... it's an aluminium oxide compound with a slightly lower thermal conductivity. Using skinneelab as only reference when they didn't even tested ICD is not a good idea. And I don't really like the application method of skinneelab. Here's a user review of several pastes, including ICD and Prolimatech, it's written in German, but the graphs are pretty self-explanatory: [user-Review] 11 Wärmeleitpasten im Vergleich I have never used PK-1 so I can't compare it's performance with other pastes. What I can say is that ICD has an excellent performance (as already mentioned) and is really annoying to apply, especially on Desktop systems on which the dotting application doesn't deliver the best performance... it's already impossible to use. But it works fine on mobile systems. There's some scratching after cleaning off the paste, but it's no as severe as people think it is. Still, that's the reason I don't really use it anymore. The thermal performance is excellent, check this thread for some comparison and pics of the paste on mobile components: http://forum.techinferno.com/general-notebook-discussions/913-ic-diamond-24-survey-results.html One of the strengths of ICD is that it doesn't get "sucked out" as the pastes with lower viscosity, e.g. MX-4. It stays where it has to be. If I look at skineelabs pics I'm simply shocked how much paste he used... way too much. This explains why he has the low viscosity pastes in front of the ranking... the superfluous paste gets pressed to the side when applying the heatsink, unlike high viscosity pastes. In addition to this we're talking about mobile application here which is totally different to desktop usage... also regarding the pressure applied to the heatsink. For me, the best paste I've used so far is MX-4, easy to apply, relatively cheap and a very decent performance. Plus, it's easy to wipe off. I've ordered some Coolaboratory liquid ultra a while ago, will test it and might also grab some prolimatech, just for testing. In the end I have to say that I don't really care about 1-2°C difference, since this can also be caused by a paste job which isn't perfect...

According to this http://skinneelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/TIMBestTemp5.png and to this http://skinneelabs.com/wp-content/uploads/TIMOverallTemp5.png PK1 is by ~1C better than MX-4 and here is my comparison between MX-4 vs ICD Innovation Cooling – Diamond 24 Review | Tech|Inferno

"Indeed" what? There is no IC Diamond featured in that 'roundup'. How can this prove anything? IC Perihelion is a different product. If we are talking ICD, let's talk ICD. Edit: Note that ICP is a "cost effective" product as IC describes it. It's price is much lower than ICD's too. Clearly, it's not the same quality there. ICP is meant for mass, cost effective applications. And how exactly did you observe that? Let's face it, you didn't. You never conducted in-depth tests nor used that many computers in very heavy stress environments. You're just trolling. ICD's performance became already common knowledge and indeed can be proven in many test. The thing is you just decided you know better and keep talking shit. Your 'expert' does not even seem to notice that the digit stands for volume of the tube with paste. 7 or 24 is not the name of the compound itself. If we are talking proper knowledge, let's talk proper knowledge and not just anything found on any blog anywhere. This is the problem with kids of the wikipedia era. You think that if you googled it it must be right. Again, this is common knowledge mobile CPUs are lidless. So what exactly? The fragment you quoted does not prove anything else apart the fact that questionable expert 'recommends' things (well, in the same way like you do). You haven't really proven anything, have you? So far we established that ICD scratches dies' surface, but apart from that nothing really. Are scratches bad and therefore make ICD perform worse than competition? Prove it, properly this time. BTW, I really can't be your "bro". You're troll. I am human. Two different species. Are you sure this place is for you? You seem more like an NBR type to me. ADMIN NOTE: Highlights in red are the only reason we ban people here at T|I. We don't ask much from visitors here except to be respectful towards other members. If you can't do that, this forum is not for you.

Cool yourselves down haha lol. In the end for any normal user you wont see huge differences between performance pastes. Ive used ICD24 and Artic Silver MX4.... Barely seen a big difference .... Compare to the bottom line and big improvements but in expensive pastes there is small gains if any between one another. ICD is not the best out there. It will last years if applied good and does not bake out, dry out, crack and diamond is a good thermal conductor. I did in fact notice ever so small abrasion on cpu after ICD24 but if one is not pasting over and over like the average person... There shouldnt be any unless changed often. Its hard to avoid but apparently Jimbo has good experience with it and it requires a special way to go about removing it or you do scratch the die... Never wipe large chunks off... Try not to smear it... Ive found it stays moist after months of stress. You can try to pull upp the pieces instead of wipe. PK1 must be a very nice one too and i can see benefits of a thermal material that improves temps even when surfaces are even. How long does a PK1 paste job last under heavy usage?

Well my order is in production and I have my order number. I decided to go with Nebula Red instead of Space Black. How does the red look? Just wanted to try something different. Overall, I am pretty happy with the outcome assuming everything works from the factory. I guess the 30 hours of advocacy over Dell's CS problems did finally get some positive closure. My 6970s were upgraded for free to the 580s but unfortunately they didn't work. Then as a result I am getting a freshly built system. So even though I have not been gaming for a few months (definitely a problem in the technology world IMO) I am at least getting a brand new system from the factory much better spec'd then when I bought it back in July 2011. The system color is different, I am going from 2.2ghz to 2.4ghz and my ram was 1066 and now is 1600. Obviously the 6970s to 580s is the biggest jump. I am just pumped that it's a completely new build. I do plan on riding this rig out for a few years and will make my next purchase after the new consoles arrive. I don't think there is anything really on the horizon that will overly stress the 580s anytime soon. thanks for all the venting on this! It's not like we are purchasing desktops and can just upgrade with the greatest of ease so being out of a gaming rig for a few months really puts a damper on your return on investment with a notebook. I feel badly for people that get bum systems and just don't do anything about it. Sometimes in life you have to be a squeaky wheel to get your way; especially dealing with big business. I could probably have advocated for a better processor or more memory but feel that I got a very good price when I purchased in July. With all the other upgrades, I didn't feel I needed to go any further. My main concern was to get a new computer as mine turned to be a lemon and Dell accommodated my request relatively easily once I was aware that I would get a "same or better refurb." I just didn't want to gamble with getting a "same" refurb. Fortunately MW got an AWESOME top shelf refurb that was well worth it. Looks like we may both walk away happy from this at the end of the day...or at least feel like things were course corrected. Cheers. But ya...how is the exterior red color?

Why risk disappointment, bleeding or anything else? Just get IC Diamond. Well known, performs well and won't disappoint.

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thanks for the link, picked up the spectacles yesterday. lets see how mine can compare to the other i5's

I use this to cool my m17x-R1, and thats only for the cpu, video cards take the entire Antarctica continent.