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This is awesome, an open forum that as long as it stays civil anything is game I can't argue a single point that was made by Brian and think they're spot on. The two systems are VERY VERY different markets even though the names don't look like it. As someone who has owned both I chose the R3 because I wanted something more portable, don't like dealing with some of the problems dual GPU systems can bring, and needed battery life measurable in hours not minutes. If someone is out for all out power, the R2 especially right now, is the winner. If you want a rig that is more portable, higher battery life(by quite a bit with the right config), and will still do very well in gaming and productivity the R3 may be the best fit. The main points I see on the R3 are: -SB CPU's -More updates left -Battery/portability -3D screen(if you like 3D) -Throttling CPU after high stress for long periods The R2 main points are: -Has the fastest CPU(for now) -Dual GPU's(mainly benchmarking and a small amount of games) -RGB LED screen -Heavy as sin (although the R3 isn't a LOT lighter) -Probably nearly done with available upgrades, even with help from people like Wiz

Mythical shmythical, M18x will come...it better anyway.