MattyB Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I hope it works out for you. I really thought I wasn't going to get my 1070 to work until I worked out the vBIOS issue and I had resigned to the fact that I had wasted $420USD (about $660AUD at the time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 yup I hope it really works out for me also. I don't want to blow 400 USD down the drain to have a useless bricked card if a bad flash happens or something along the lines of that occur that renders the card useless and unreturnable. It would be just be frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Yeah it's a scary feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) So I eagerly recived my 1070, but I get a black screen when I turn on the computer and insert it in. I have made sure UEFI boot is on and PEG mode is on. Im not sure what could be causing this as I also tried connecting an external monitor to the hdmi in and out with no result Edited May 20, 2020 by Crustieraxe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I'll see what I can find out. Maybe try re-seating the card just to make sure it's sitting right. I've heard some people have fixed it by closing the lid and opening it again but it probably won't work in this instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, MattyB said: I'll see what I can find out. Maybe try re-seating the card just to make sure it's sitting right. I've heard some people have fixed it by closing the lid and opening it again but it probably won't work in this instance. I didn't try closing the lid. But i did try putting the card in several times. I also got no beep codes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Did you Disable Load Legacy ROM in the BIOS? Usually you'll have to do a clean Windows installation when switching from Legacy to UEFI as you have to change your drive partition from MBR to GPT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, MattyB said: Did you Disable Load Legacy ROM in the BIOS? Usually you'll have to do a clean Windows installation when switching from Legacy to UEFI as you have to change your drive partition from MBR to GPT. I installed windows 10 with legacy mode on and then switched to UEFI. I think that was my problem I can't really remember Edited May 20, 2020 by Crustieraxe EDIT: Would that probably be the cause of the black screen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 That could be your problem. You need a pure UEFI environment which usually means switching everything to UEFI and disabling Legacy ROM and then reinstalling Windows. During the installation it will tell you that you cannot install Windows on the disk because it's not of the GTP type, or something like that. You have to use Command Prompt to change the disk type. I had to do all this when swapping my M18x to UEFI. I googled how to swap the disk type using Command Prompt and it worked perfectly. I was told that I had to have UEFI so I swapped over from Legacy. After I did it I spoke to someone else with an M18x and he did the upgrade without UEFI. I'm not sure if the M17x is different though because of the 120Hz display. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, MattyB said: That could be your problem. You need a pure UEFI environment which usually means switching everything to UEFI and disabling Legacy ROM and then reinstalling Windows. During the installation it will tell you that you cannot install Windows on the disk because it's not of the GTP type, or something like that. You have to use Command Prompt to change the disk type. I had to do all this when swapping my M18x to UEFI. I googled how to swap the disk type using Command Prompt and it worked perfectly. That is probably 100% my problem because it doesn't make sense it won't even give me any picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Hopefully. I would think you'd get a beep code if there was a hardware issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, MattyB said: Hopefully. I would think you'd get a beep code if there was a hardware issue. My current windows installation is GPT. My problem lies somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Is the Legacy ROM enabled or disabled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Just now, MattyB said: Is the Legacy ROM enabled or disabled? Disabled. So the bios can't be my problem. Video mode is alos on PEG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Yeah sounds like you have everything set right. I've never done it on an M17x which makes it harder to help. I would suggest to start a new thread at NotebookReview. Sometimes questions get missed if you comment on another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Will it boot to the BIOS with the card installed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MattyB said: Will it boot to the BIOS with the card installed? Nope it will not boot to bios at all. It also has no backlight when it is turned on. I'm confused as to why its not working since I did everything correctly. Edit: is there a key combination I can do to get into any setup screens that will get me into the bios? Edited May 21, 2020 by Crustieraxe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I can't quite remember but I thought it was SHIFT-F or SHIFT-D. I'll see if I can find it. The problem with the 120Hz display is it needs the GPU to run it so if the GPU isn't working then you get nothing. Do you have to reinstall your old card to see how the BIOS is set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MattyB said: I can't quite remember but I thought it was SHIFT-F or SHIFT-D. I'll see if I can find it. The problem with the 120Hz display is it needs the GPU to run it so if the GPU isn't working then you get nothing. Do you have to reinstall your old card to see how the BIOS is set up? Yup I have the old card on right now and i can see everything in the bios. But when i have the 1070, I don't see anything. I'm thinking the vbios is not compatible with this laptop. If that's the case then I'm just goinf to return because i can't even get into the machine with the card to flash a new vbios onto it Edited May 21, 2020 by Crustieraxe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It's definitely possible. If it did come from the ASRock machine like the other guy said then it will definitely have an incompatible vBIOS. I would have thought that your M17x would still pick it up as an Nvidia card and at least boot the machine. It's a different situation with your 120Hz display though and it makes things more complicated. My 1070 vBIOS was wrong but the M18x uses SG mode for the 1070 so the laptop would still boot fine with the Intel graphics. Flashing the correct vBIOS was pretty simple. If you lived a little closer I could test it out for you. You could also look at using a BIOS programmer. I have zero experience or real knowledge about them but many people use them to flash a BIOS. I believe it actually clips onto the BIOS chip and you flash it this way rather than it being inside the laptop. I've never looked into it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, MattyB said: It's definitely possible. If it did come from the ASRock machine like the other guy said then it will definitely have an incompatible vBIOS. I would have thought that your M17x would still pick it up as an Nvidia card and at least boot the machine. It's a different situation with your 120Hz display though and it makes things more complicated. My 1070 vBIOS was wrong but the M18x uses SG mode for the 1070 so the laptop would still boot fine with the Intel graphics. Flashing the correct vBIOS was pretty simple. If you lived a little closer I could test it out for you. You could also look at using a BIOS programmer. I have zero experience or real knowledge about them but many people use them to flash a BIOS. I believe it actually clips onto the BIOS chip and you flash it this way rather than it being inside the laptop. I've never looked into it though. Well, my machine has SG mode as well. Could i possibly boot with the 1070 in this mode instead of PEG?, furthermore will I be able to boot again to bios if i put it in this mode with my 660m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 You will most likely get an 8 beep code and I've also heard that it could brick your board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Yup. I'll be better off just returning it and not take any chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustieraxe Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 So I have found older posts of people running SG mode and stating to run SG mode on the laptop as quoted from a notebook revoew thread You can run Optimus mode (SG) and support the following GPUs:1070: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Nvidia...490959?hash=item2cdd7c974f:g:VgYAAOSwNo9b0ulz1060: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-GeF...487546&hash=item2f2a9c5b14:g:RCQAAOSw5pRcSDe1or if you want to run PEG (dedicated mode) you can use:980M: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Dell-A...sh=item23b20b1e05:g:vhoAAOSwwvZZU2yI&LH_BIN=1780M: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-GeF...sh=item3d8b4bbcbf:g:RM0AAOSwgTxc4nbX&LH_BIN=1680M(native support): https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-GeF...sh=item2cec1c5ccf:g:5QkAAOSwZbFc94wG&LH_BIN=1680M will provide 2x your current performance780M will be around 10-15% faster than 680M980M will be 4x your current performance (2x 680m)1060 will be around 10-15% faster than 980M1070 will be 8x your current performance (~2x 980m)If you want a cheap upgrade, native support, 2x performance, 680m is great.980M will provide a much bigger performance increase while keeping native PEG mode.1070 will provide current gen laptop performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Ok, that's interesting. Optimus (SG) will not work with the 120Hz display so it will be interesting to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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