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What card/vbios is it? Clevo? MSI? Aorus? Asus?

Aorus gpu's(SLI) are embedded on the board while Asus have their own world of MXM boards which is not compatible with the famous nb's like AW,Clevo/Sager, and MSI.

fter the flashing with the x51 I have some problems. Boot, Windows 8.1 in the raid system and all seems to work fine BUT....

I did a test with Batman Arkham City and with the same configuration as before I had all the problems I got 30-40fps less than with the .30P bios. Also I tried to flash again the .30P bios to test and in dos mode the program doesn't let me downgrade the bios version.

Is this some kind of problem? Must I reinstall windows 8.1 because the .51x bios and the legacy option change some configuration and make the system go less powerful?

I think that the power boost/hybrid boost is not working now. any idea? Now I am not with the laptop. I will check if the battery is not fit in place but if it could be something else please tell me.

As I said the games don't play as fast as before.....

is this throttling issue related as with the T16/T17 fix with 16f3/1762 nb's? You did flash to T18 also right ya?

The bios including EC were released for 100% compatibility of GTX7 ** M cards. I myself have already operated a GTX780M (original MSI) in a GT60 0NC with 51x bios.

Can you lend me that 780m? I'll check if it works with my GT60 with 51x bios update

need help soon, don't know what to do and I don't know how this happened and why I can't go into a boot dos usb at least to flash again the vga card with the stock rom.

U need to update your bios. or look for an unlock bios for your gt70.. look in msi thread (thread here) there's a solution for gt70 with 770m that works with 780m cards

You mean 120hz LCD right?

Since iGPU does not support 120hz LCD (there are two LCD ports in MOBO, one for 60, another for 120) , optimus will not work.

No optimus, no 980m.

Awww... No 3D no 980m... Plain 60hz :-(

I want to have a future proof Upgradable parts including the GPU with PNP capabilites (unlock bios as well), have a unique style for clevo that can rival AW, MSI, Gigabyte etc, and the price should be competitive.

Another question... If I upgrade to 120Hz monitor, 9xxm cards are compatible? 120hz monitor=3d right? Or it's only a fast refresh rate?

Can't use "hope" and "AMD" in the same sentence. They are opposites and cancel each other out, LOL.

"Hope" + "Less" = AMD ? LOL

is this possible to replace the gpu at your laptop ? at mine dell 7720 with gt650m its impossible cause the card is built in the mainboard

GT and GX series of MSI have upgreadable parts including the GPU. if you have other models other than this one then your conclusion is right

Lots to talk about optimus. I recommend you google.

In this process, alot of things happen. CPU need more power, graphics especially Dx 9 will be very much influenced by it (=slows down) and even if it shows you 60fps, you will not feel like you are gaming in 60 fps.

But why only in 9XXm GPU's are affected with muxed nb's? vbios mod is the answer? If there's no revision of vbios, then AW18's only hope are AMD GPU's

I have made 980m work in my AW17 and m17x R4.

But in optimus as other company.

No one has made it work in SLi or in non-optimus mode.

Noob question. Don't laugh at me but what's the difference between optimus and non-optimus in a notebook? Is there a huge impact even if you got discreet gpu? Still the stronger GPU will play in 3d games right?

Yeah it should work if you unlock your bios and if your R4 isn't 3d.

same as the GT60 with bios unlock

The problem is it only works when the iGPU is enabled. Since you do not have an iGPU it looks like there is no way for it to work.

Is iGFX and iGPU the same? anyways Primary display i saw in bios for MSI GT60-16F3 (one of my nb) have the following:

Primary Display

-Auto

-iGFX

-PEG

-PCI

-SG

I saw iGPU settings also in the bios... Do you think that 980/970m will work? i'll post pic later if its ok here to post.. thanks

Hi

I own one MSI GT70-0NC with a GTX 670M I would like to know the upgrade possibilities. I was thinking to upgrade to a 970M but I am seeing I can be problems with the msi notebook bios or the new 970 bios if it is not msi.

Can you tell me what must I upgrade to be 100% compatible? If I can upgrade the laptop bios first I can have it prepared for the video bios.

thanks in advance.

First look for @iTzZent. He's got the latest bios for GT60 (16F3)/70(1762). The 51x bios with T18 firmware. He said that bios can read from 6xx,7xx,8xx, up to 9xxm nvidia cards.. Or you can browse here his many posts...

I've successfully updated my GT60 (16F3) with the 51x bios... I'm just waiting for some people to try out the new 980/970m gpu's with this NB.. Still saving to get me one until This December.

I have tested 980m in AW17, m17x R4, m18x R2.

The results are it does not work in any alienware without optimus.

With optimus it works. Which means 980m does not work on any of 3D alienware or m18x R1/ R2.

It's not 17 or 18. It's about optimus.

It seems that MSI GT60/70 series is the same with AW M17 When it comes to Switchable Graphics... SG = Muxless

Yes, MSI use an other Heatsink for the GTX9**M Series, because the MXM Board has another Layout.

GTX9**M Heatsink:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]13005[/ATTACH]

GTX8**M / GTX7**M Heatsink:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]13006[/ATTACH]

Here you see the difference between the two cards (GTX870M vs GTX970M). Anything above the RAM chips, located at other positions.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]13007[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]13008[/ATTACH]

MSI sells in Canada as just the GT60 2QD and the GT70 2QD with a GTX970M 3GB. When and where you can obtain the heatsink, I do not know.

but with the 16f3 and 1762 gt models have a great chance upgrading with this gpu's right? just update to 51x bios?

I was told that the 980m works perfectly fine in the AW17, M17x R3 and R4 but apparently not in the M18x R1

I know this is a little off topic (but same gpu)... But What about other brand NB's like MS GT 60 (16f3)/ GT 70 (1762)? does the updated 51x bios reads these new gpus (980/970m)?

You can change your Motherboard, when you find one from the GE70 2PE. Than you have a Maxwell GTX860M... Since the GE70 2PE the CPU is onboard, you don´t need a new CPU

It's sooo difficult to find a motherboard, plus the chassis of the board as well (if its not compatible with the old one)

Only GT and GX msi models are cpu,gpu upgradeable. GS/GE series GPUs are embedded on the motherboard, that's why research first before you buy a gaming laptop, That is if you want all upgradeable parts on your notebook.

The M17x uses a muxless switch where the dGPU passes through the iGPU to drive the display.

Both AMD and nVidia cards have coding in the vB.

Does this mean that only M17 works with 980/970m gpu's for the moment?

yes.

@godfafa

Would you mind asking your friend what's the vbios compatible for MSI? would help me very much thanks.

@iTzZent

Have you seen owners of GT 60(16F3)/70(1762) with udpated 51x that upgraded their nb's with 980/970m ? I'm hoping to hear some good news though.. Thanks

that's an 870m but still the same as with 880m

@admins/Moderators

I put my original thread here under MSI category

http://http://forum.techinferno.com/msi/8000-oem-8gb-nvidia-gtx-880m-question.html

And this is the first time I've encountered this website while searching on google

OEM 8GB NVIDIA GTX 880M question

http://www.techonce.net/threads/459105-OEM-8GB-NVIDIA-GTX-880M-question

They've just changed my name there several times.. Same topic, same conversation, different aliases. W-t-f!

@Khenglish

Does it mean that even the old heatsink for GT60 (780/880m) could actually fit on with 980/970m? Thermal pads is the answer to fill those gaps?

Can someone get 4GB GDDR5 chips?

its the same layout design with the 8GB variant that Khenglish posted.... Btw clevo/sager mxm gpu's are MSI compatible too :-)