aldimeola81

Ok so will be OK.. Is better the dgpu + igpu version or igpu only for my purpose?

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dGPU version has a much better cooler, but you will have to disable the dGPU in order to enable Opt. compression. I never used an Nvidia card on this laptop so I won't know.

 

I would suggest dGPU if you want to upgrade to i7 quad. If you are going dual core any of the two would be OK and iGPU would be easier to setup.

 

note: There are some reports that some E6430 (iGPU/dGPU) won't handle adequately the x1.2 signal. Two cases reported to have trouble to connect an eGPU successfully @ x1.2 with EC. They had to downgrade to x1.1.

Right now prices are too low on ebay (you can find a CPU only as low as $100). So you may take your chances and try. I would also suggest that you go for one of the latest models so it will still be under warranty.

 

That's a bad news, how can I discover if mine will work at 1.2Opt or not? The igpu only model is unaffected?the dgpu can be disabled into bios or I need egpu setup? Another thing: my t530 runs very cool maibe around 60C° also playing at GTA 5 with everything maxed on fhd display, I have an i5-3360 processor.. Why the dell has temperature problem with same I core series? I've read also about modded bios to overclock the CPU, it will work with any supported CPU or only with some models?sorry for too much request, but I don't want to buy another bad laptop...

Ok so will be OK.. Is better the dgpu + igpu version or igpu only for my purpose?

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The t430 won't have any monitor connected at boot on egpu or it will stuck on thinkpad logo, so I've used an HDMI switch connecting laptop output and egpu output to the same monitor... But I have to switch every time I boot computer and I prefer a more clean solution..

If I connect two cables to same monitor, ( after windows start or it won't boot) , the data will go over igpu and the 3d performance goes slower also disabling the monitor into windows.. For that reason i'm searching a better solution, thanks.

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thanks but I need optimus compression at least into win for play 3d games..

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Hi everyone, I'm thinking to buy an E6430 laptop to make an egpu system in according to an P4EC and MSI gtx9604gb.. I have some doubt: is that laptop fully compatible with egpu via express card? I would use the laptop docked and closed and I need to have the video output from the egpu working also out windows; for example in bios, in boot order selecting menu and in Linux. At the moment I have a think pad t430 but it won't boot with a monitor attacked to egpu, I have to connect it after bios and it work only into Linux and windows.. I don't like that solution so I'm asking if the problems will go away using that e6430, thanks for the answers.

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The PE4C with key A/E is the right for you, but after insert the adapter is not sure it will work , as I know you are the first with that laptop model. The problems can be: not whitelisted slot, tolud.. And some of them can be very difficult to solve.. But you can try if you feel lucky, and you have spare time.

I've made a eGPU setup with a "tested" laptop and I've worked for a month for make it work almost properly.. Maybe yours will be plug and play.. Or with egpu setup software you can do a mod easily.. Bye.

 

Thanks for the reply, sorry for the questions but i cant seem to find the way to know the TOLUD, because in my case i dont find any PCI BUS its just PCI EXPRESS ROOT COMPLEX ( COMPLEJO RAIZ PCI EXPRESS, in spanish) also can i uncheck the whitelist from the BIOS??

 

and for last wich do you think would be a GPU card with less errors or less incompatibility issues ATI or NVIDIA???

Sorry for my bad english and for asking too many questions. MANY THANKS!!

 

Surely you need a gtx nvidia card, as gtx960 or better, and a dell da-2 as supply, but after that you must to try what happens with your laptop, maybe for start if you have another mpci card you can try if the laptop recognize it or get an error on boot, after that you can try the egpu software by Tech Inferno Fan.

P.s. I'm not a really expert about egpu, I'm interesting about it from some month only and I have done mine only,in my opinion the egpu will work with a bit of modding but I can be wrong and the thing will go to nightmare cause you have bought several hardware and the system can't work. You need to try and see what's happens.

Well, I have tried with Setup 1.3 and the card isn't detected.

 

I have tried with different SW1 and SW2 postions, nothing detected.

I have disabled all but the one PCI port that expresscard uses (I had plugged a usb3 expansión card on the express card slot and worked) and the egpu is not detected

 

My model is an PE4C v3.0, tried with bot the Dell D220P and an ATX 450W PSU

Cards tested: GT 8800, GTX 560ti, GTX 750ti, all work on their own.

 

On the board, the D1 LED (CLKRUN) is always red while the express card is plugged.

The board never powers up on it's own, if I short the "force power on" pins on the board,

the card powers on and the fans rotate at full speed, but it isn't detected

When powered up, the D2 and D3 LEDS (3.3v and 12v) are Green, and  D4(PERST)  is red

I'm already out of options. I cannot return the PE4C V3.0, but I think it may have been defective.

I have tried on three laptops (all HP, different models) with the same symptoms.

 

Any other suggestion?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Check the soldering after 3m tape on the board, maybe some wire is disconnected , have you bended the cable? Bye

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Good day everyone i wich to know if i would be able to do some of that awesome eGPU modding,

 

Laptop: Lenovo z5070

OS: Windows 10, 64-bit

CPU: Intel® Core Intel i5 4210U CPU @ 2.7GHz 

iGPU: Intel® HD Graphics 4400

dGPU: NVIDIA 820M

 

Im thinking into getting a NVIDIA GTX 960 or 970

 

the mPCI-e integrated in my laptop  its M.2 NGFF its the M.2 Key A Slot the right one in the image       with this Wlan and bluetooth adapter    I wanted to know if this PE4C V4.1 (PE4C-M2060A V4.1 ) will work

http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4C%20V4.1.html   Many Thanks!!  

The PE4C with key A/E is the right for you, but after insert the adapter is not sure it will work , as I know you are the first with that laptop model. The problems can be: not whitelisted slot, tolud.. And some of them can be very difficult to solve.. But you can try if you feel lucky, and you have spare time.

I've made a eGPU setup with a "tested" laptop and I've worked for a month for make it work almost properly.. Maybe yours will be plug and play.. Or with egpu setup software you can do a mod easily.. Bye.

Hi all,

 

Hoping to get a bit of help with an eGPU setup. 

 

LAPTOP

Laptop: Lenovo w530

OS: Windows 10, 64-bit

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3740QM CPU @ 2.7GHz 

Storage: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500G

iGPU: Intel® HD Graphics 4000

dGPU: NVIDIA Quadro K1000M

 

eGPU SETUP

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 950 Overclocked 2GB 128 Bit GDDR5 PCiE Video Graphics Cards GV-N950WF2OC-2GD

PSU: EVGA 500 W1 80+, 500W Continuous Power, 3 Year Warranty Power Supply 100-W1-0500-KR

Adapter: [Expresscard Version] V8.0 EXP GDC Beast Laptop External Independent Video Card Dock

Arrangement: See photo; 8 pin (GDC Beast-side) to 20 pin MB and 4 pin CPU; 6 pin PCI-E from ATX straight to GPU; ExpressCard/HDMI connector; GPU to a TV by HDMI

 

The problem

My computer never detects the card. Here is what I have tried:

(1) Computer off, plug everything in. GDC delay switch is all the way to the left. Turning on the computer, the PSU fan comes on and the GDC turns on a blue light (stays on) but the GPU fans don't spin. In Device Manager, my iGPU and dGPU show up, only. EVGA 500W should be fine, as the Gigabyte website suggests that "350W (with one 6-pin external power connector)" is sufficient.

(2) In UEFI BIOS I selected "Integrated Graphics" which turned off the dGPU, I turned Power>ExpressCard speed setting to "Generation 1" instead of automatic, and finally I disabled PCI LAN as a boot option (after reading gdc manual). I then used DDU to remove all of the nvidia drivers. I get the same result as before, blue light, no gpu fan, atx fan spinning softly, windows boots up normal. Only  the iGPU in Device manager.

(3) Finally, I did the PSU paperclip trick, to force the PSU to be on during boot up. Light is blue, no gpu fan, and then turn I on the computer and nothing new happens. Simply doesn't show in Device Manager. I had to disconnect the 20 pin connector in order to place the paperclip, but figured this was fine since the only wire coming from it to the gdc is the ground for signaling on/off.

(4) I have also do most of these options with the delay switch in the middle (7s) and right position. I have also tried plugging in the ExpressCard at odd times, like during the windows startup or while the laptop is already on.

 

I have not tried setup 1.3 because I am not sure what problem I have here and how this would help. Would whitelisting cause this? Everything is super new so probably there aren't any hardware issue here i suspect. I picked this adapter over the Bplus one because the banggood website lists my computer as compatible.

 

Please chime in if you have ideas. Thanks in advance (is this the place to post this question, even though it is about expresscard type adaptors?).

 

Best,

Dan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have now also converted from GPT to MBR with and installed Setup 1.3. 

Setup 1.3 does not detect the eGPU either.

Is my brand new GPU dead on arrival? Only thing I can think of now.

In device manager you don't see any device with error 12 under graphics card when the egpu is connected? Have you well inserted the express card into the laptop? Try to check under security in bios if express card slot has been disabled.. And get back to normal supply connection,with pe4C at least the egpu must start by himself, so remove all egpu delay. Install and start lenovo system update for update your drivers and common modules, update the bios, after that, if the card will be recognized but you get error 12 you can pass to second step Bye

Why don't you try with external LCD? Just to see what happens..

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i've a little problem: sometimes the performance of my system go very well, sometimes not, i'm not using the battery for the computer t530 (i bought it but isn't arrived yet)

Can be a battery related that problem? the score on benchmark 3dmark 06  goes from 21500 to 17500 depending from nothing ..

On 10/2/2016 at 10:45 PM, EgT said:

Vsync didn't change anything it's the same stuck at 48-50fps, so your fps were limited on internal screen too? 

no, i've tried using internal laptop screen (1600x900) and the fps go up 130 in some moments, the final score is around 17500 for 3dmark 06

The only issue in windows was to boot without monitor connected, I added a mechanical HDMI switch after to not disconnect the cable at every boot, on Linux the latest version works like a charm with little mods, there is a guide online.

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I have X230 with HD4000. I have used it before with PE4L since it came out and everything was working

as expected include Optimus. Then after sometime I was bored and sold the GTX card.

 

But today I acquired the GTX680 and decided to setup the same route I did many years ago.

Plug the card to PE4L -> Connect EC ->  Turn on the power -> Turn on X230

So, X230 is on. Everything is working except I couldn't get the Optimus to work.

I try difference driver but still no optimus. What am I missing? Need advice.

As I see the PCI speed is only 1.1, try to check into bios over power management for PCI express.. At 2.0 you will have much better result

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7 hours ago, Cloudbyte said:

I have checked for Expresscard options in bios, no useful options found.

I have the Dell D220P AC adapter for it, but the card doesn't seem to turn on (the fan remains dead)

If I connect the expresscard, I get a the PERST led turn on dimly.

If I force the powerup of the card by shorting the jumper, the card powers on, the fan spins, the 12v and 3v leds turn green and the CLK led turns brightly red, but the PERST one remains dim.

In any case nothing gets detected on the device manager (Windows 10)

I'll try with both switches on the default position (1) before turning on the laptop, don't remember if I tried that way.

Hotpluging the card doesn't work, nothing gets detected.

 

Should the CLK and or the PERST leds turn green at any point?, or is normal they're red?

Will the card turn on on its own when detected or I'll always have to force the power up via the board pins when using Dell D220P AC adapter?

 

I have tried on several laptops (all HP, but different models), in none the board gets detected.

I have tried 2 video cards GTX560ti and GTX750ti and none gets detected. The cards work on their own on desktop computers.

 

Maybe I'm doing something wrong....

the card must run by himself without switch, i have the same adaptor, same power supply and no problem with my lenovo t530 and other several computer, be sure to connect the external 8pin connector to pe4c base

maybe you got a faulty pe4c or faulty dell adapter.. try with a standard atx supply for first, and watch if there are any changes, bye.

6 hours ago, EgT said:

I think LCD frequency and refresh rate are the same, right?

if you are using vsinc yes.

try to enable vsinc on the nvidia panel instead of game app.

what score do you get on 3dmark06?

but on internal at fhd resolution the 2.0x1 bandwith is too small , so that's the problem, i've suffered for same problem and playng on 24" external now.

I'm using a y510p:

i7-4700MQ

8gb of ram

Windows 8.1

Bplus PE4C v3.0 adapter mPCIe MSI gtx 970 graphics card

Evga 500 psu

Everything works but in most games I can't reach more than 48.9fps, e.g. Bf3, bioshock and many others. I tried lowering the graphic details in all of them the maximum fps is the same 48-49fps but the only thing that works is lowering the screen resolution to lowest.

I'm using the internal laptop screen, I know I should get lower performance but fps shouldn't be limited to 48?

What I've tried but non helped : Installing different drivers. Overcloking gpu and couldn't.

Changing nvidia global settings, like vsync, etc..

Help please! , I've have searched a lot but haven't found a fix.

The bandwith is the problem, so for optimal speed you must play over external screen, check with gpuz the speed of PCI express while the nvidia logo rotate over driver menu, if you see PCI 2.0x1 everything is OK.

Hi

 

I'm looking for help,

 

My system

HP Elitebook 8440p

Core i5 520m

8Gb ram

 

PE4C V3.0 ExpressCard

ZOTAC GTX 750Ti

 

Dell D-2 power supply.

 

Here's a pic of my device manager (for TOLUD)

 

And a pic of the leds on the PE4C V3.0, the two at the edges are red, and the two in the middle are green.

The fan of the card starts working, but apart from that, I get nothing.

 

No matter the combination on switches on the PE4C, the laptop doesn't detect anything. Device manager doesn't

move at all. Tried on Linux with dmesg, and I didn't detect any change on expresscard insertion.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks in advance

Have you tried to check over express card configuration over bios? The two switch must set at zero delay (DX) for be recognized on boot.

If the fans start to rotate slow, the card is recognized, if start spinning at full speed, doesn't, be sure of connect the external supply on 3d card directly also, bye.

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I'm not sure if I'm posting in the right place, and if I am not I apologize, 

I have a Lenovo T430( I5 3320m, 8gb, intel hd 4000 only no nvidia dgpu, express 2.0)

I'm trying to figure out the most compatible setup for an EGPU while using the internal screen, which I understand is possible using an Nvidia graphics card with optimus

the card I have narrowed it down to is the EVGA branded 750ti ( I would like to play BF4 not necessarily on high but above 30-40fps average)

my questions are, 

What is the best adapter for my particular situation using the expresscard option?

if using the PE4C or another adapter that could use the  220 8 pin power unit would it be enough for the 750ti?

and finally, is there any suggestions for protecting the exposed card without buying a large case?

ideally I would want to be able to safely be able to put it into a bag to take it to work with me when needed!

thank you for any advice, I once again apologize if I posted in the wrong area!

I've the same PC ad yours, t530 only igpu,i5 3360m, i've used a PE4C 3.0 and a MSI gtx960 4gb.

Everything works fine on internal LCD, but if I want to use an external monitor to the egpu, I must connect it after boot or the bios will hangs. Playing over internal is not a good option, cause the LCD is too small, have bad quality , bad resolution and the system is slower than using external lcd. I've also started with the same idea but I've switched to a dell IPS 24" and I haven't any regrets.

About enclosure I use the card naked over my desk but you can make everything with plastics, wood, metal, paper ..

I've managed to make egpu working over Linux too ( external only)

Bye.

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My system:

HP Probook 4530s / i5-2450M / 8GB / HD7470M / Win10x64

eGPU: PE4C 2.1 / PSU Advance TX-750w / MSI GTX 660 TF3

 

I use eGPU with expresscard.

I've set EC Gen2 in BIOS. I've set Gen2 for NVIDIA in DIY 1.30 too and then I did a compaction iGPU + eGPU -> Test run.

Everything is OK, no ERROR. I can play PES2016 with my external screen.

But just in 10-15 mins later, my PC freezes, its screen goes into a black screen and never comes out of it (even after unplugging the express card).

I couldn't do anything and and hard reset only helps.

What's the problem here ? Can you help me ?

 

And when I tried with my internal display. I got this after 5mins 

Please help...

 

My experiences suck.

 

GTX 760 - error 12

GTX 960 - error 12

 

I would like to see a real thread were we talk more about the types of gfx cards that people are using rather than laptops. 

Have you tried to monitor temperatures? Maybe the CPU go too hot?

I have a partial success connecting t530 igpu only with PE4C and MSI GTX960 4GB: win7 64: internal monitor is working and external too, wei give the max to graphic ; the benchmark of fire strike rate the system around 6000 and over 3dmark 06 21800, the card must be connected at startup and the external monitor must be connected after boot otherwise the PC freeze on boot. No need of use egpu program , only driver install, very good performance over real games on fhd monitor into new games as gta5, fallout 4, crysis 3.. High or ultra details, work stably for hours, the laptop remains cool and the GPU too even overclocked. BIG Thanks to Nando4, and his big patience.. The problems remained is that I have to disconnect every time the external monitor on boot and to make it work over Ubuntu..

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sorry if I insist but about the compatibility and plug and play  egpu install what  is better: a PC with only intel iGPU or iGPU + dgpu?

 

 

thanks.

If are confident of doing a DSDT override then the T530 iGPU model would be the preferred option.  Usually less costly than the dGPU model. arteart successfully applied a DSDT override on a iGPU-only T430 at https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/5874-guide-dsdt-override-to-fix-error-12/ which then gives a plug'n'play solution. 

The t530 is arrived, I have reinstalled windows 7 with egpu connected, no error, everything appear to be fine, the igpu and egpu are installed without problem.. But when I play with games they use only the igpu, I've tried selecting the gtx960 inside nvidia panel as preferred for gaming but no changes.

Any advice? I must install egpu setup for make it work? Thanks.

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Edit: solved ! After connected an external monitor the egpu works also into internal over games, t530 works without any mods.

1 hour ago, Tech Inferno Fan said:

@Tech Inferno Fan

unfortunately I can not; the customer (my brother) wants to use the w510 with 3D modeling programs and screen fhd is the thing that 'convinced him.

if it will work 'well, I'll buy' another panel of w510 and will put it on the T530, of course I will inform 'first on cable and compatibility.

edit: someone has already done an egpu setup over t530 igpu only

http://blog.lastlog.de/posts/setup-1.x/

for now you just have to wait, you're very kind, thank you.

@Tech Inferno Fan

I hope at least to succeed, I read only cases of failure on the T530 with only iGPU in various forums in all languages .. I hope to change things, because I bought it for this project when I saw that he was among Recommended laptops.

about the w510 I was right to change it or you could get similar results with a egpu?
the NVIDIA Quadro FX880M also supports Optimus I saw, and I saw that AIDA64 recognize  PCIExpress as 2.0 ..maybe your software could get it running well in internal display?

the W510 has already 'a great screen FHD and a cpu i7-920XM extreme, I am very sorry to sell it.

11 hours ago, Tech Inferno Fan said:

 

If are confident of doing a DSDT override then the T530 iGPU model would be the preferred option.  Usually less costly than the dGPU model. arteart successfully applied a DSDT override on a iGPU-only T430 at https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/5874-guide-dsdt-override-to-fix-error-12/ which then gives a plug'n'play solution. 

I'm not really familiar to use DSDT override, however, it seems to me possible to do .. but 'I'd rather do it on startup, with an external software independent from the OS (such as your setup 1.3) if it can do this ;  

it's sure I should 'to override, or any model works in its own way how can i know it before buy  a laptop?

Another doubt: the setup 1.3 write only into temporary memory or change something into bios? so is there any possibility of doing some permanent  damage with wrong setup or no? the configuration must be done every times windows boot or it can remember last used one?

in my Thinkpad I dual boot with 2 different ssd (use windows just to play games and ubuntu for everything else)
in ubuntu I do not think I'm gonna need 'to use the external GPU, the Intel card  will be' more 'than enough to play hd movies.
I was also thinking of replacing the internal LCD panel with a FHD compatible with the model; do you think there will be problems in relation to egpu ? maybe using internal lcd the pci express 2.0 is too slow to hard gaming at high resolution?
sorry for all these questions, I discovered the world egpu for a week and I fell in love, then I read all the forums for hours but doubts are still many.

32 minutes ago, Tech Inferno Fan said:

 

Ivy Bridge supports maximum PCIe 2.0 (Gen2) speed on the expresscard/mPCIe slot.  BPlus PE4C V3.0 with it's soldered cable the eGPU adapter with best chance to provide glitch free Gen2 eGPU operation.

 

There are issues with Win10 Optimus mode: https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/8918-egpu-window-10-optimus-mode-problem/ . Those problems have been confined to using the desktop driver. No reports yet in that thread of anybody modifying the mobile driver INF with desktop card PCI-IDs to see if it fixes the problem. A possibility. Otherwise Win7/Win8.x Optimus works well.

 

TOLUD issues can be solved with either:

1. modded/update/rollbacked BIOS that lowers TOLUD

2. getting the dGPU model, disable the dGPU and hijaak it's PCIe space using Setup 1.30

3. applying a DSDT override