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Usually people refer to IGP as integrated from my experience so I guess thats were communication didnt line up. I dont think it will be able to draw 170w with just the CPU and motherboard though so I am not concerned about that, whether we have the ability to do so, is what we want to figure out lol

Oh no, I was confirming onboard GPU not the ultrabay 755m But thanks! Im curious if it will behave differently when there isnt as much draw from the onboard 755m. I am not sure if it can be disabled to the point of no power draw but it should certainly be reduced. Temps right now for me are about 72c max load but I also noticed that the fan curve has priority on the GPU. Meaning CPU full load = little increase in speed, GPU load increase = fan speed increase to max allowed on curve.

This was with the on board GPU enabled correct? It stands to reason it may behave differently with the onboard GPU disabled, or you think that is flawed logic? Thanks for your info ghoul!

Right which is expected, there are some settings that i cant recall the location of at the moment (will check after gym) that speak about register bypasses or the ability to ignore it. I was beginning to think that it may have something to do with it but I dont know so I didnt mention it and I didnt want someone to brick their machine on a whim lol Maybe it might be easier to get SS of the menu's in 2.07? Then compare it against the settings in v3.05

@ghoul should be able to settle this then. Was an unlocked BIOS vital to CPU overclocking the 4930mx when you had it? Thanks

I wouldnt overclock using the BIOS, I soft bricked my first y510p like that and had to wait for the CMOS battery to finally give up, left it alone over night and came back after work the next day. Even using known good settings didnt take too well using the overclocking tab in the bios, I dont think its a good idea on this platform If anything unlocking power features may allow for better software overclock. As for v3.05 ultrabay eGPU compatibility I wont be able to test until I get the adapter and finish school, which may happen around the same time anyways lol Off to bed!

If @Zwierzak cant provide it, ill do it in the morning after the gym. About 10-11 hours from now Thanks for humoring us @Klem I figure our only chances of getting overclocking potential and eGPU are either to unlock v2.07 or figure out if a setting was changed in v3.05 I did some poking around and have maybe 1 idea but Im pretty ignorant on this subject. In any case ill be back after sleeping for the night. Thanks again man

Hmm ok, but I think having 2.07 unlocked would be the best option overall I plan to replace the internal fan as well, as well as fans from the cooling pad. Yeah it will be quite the franken set up but thats mostly because I dont like the space wasted by going with an eGPU set up, so one idea lead to the next and the end result will be, completely off the desk and best performance I can squeeze out of it while keeping it cool as possible. Its a modification but its also an investment too Bottom line though, Im a function over form kind of guy... On my y510p I currently have v3.05 installed, I dont have the adapter yet (awaiting shipment) or the 4930mx, but Zwierzak does. I believe he is in the middle of replacing the motherboard though I can revert to 2.07 if need be, I just keep everything on the DOS drive for when the need arrives Im also about to call it a night, gym 5am every morning and its about 10pm here in S. Korea Otherwise if you need any guinea pigs just let me know lol

He removed the whitelist yes, but unlocked BIOS is only on v3.05. At least that is what is available to us in the pack that is downloadable here Sadly v3.05 doesnt work with eGPU on the ultrabay

@Klem Do you think it would be possible to unlock the 2.07 BIOS so we may try to overclock the 4930mx and retain the ability to use the ultrabay eGPU? Just curious if you have any thoughts that may be able to point us in the right direction. Slv7 and Prema arent people we can contact anymore to the best of my understanding, I dont want to spam every modder out there, as Im sure thats annoying. Who would be the best to contact anymore? Thanks in advance and love all the help you give the community!

I am pretty sure I have mentioned my planned used with my cooler master u3 a few times, without it, I cant exactly hang the laptop on the wall lol At max load temp is around 62-64C @ stock voltage with keyboard still installed with the stock fan (@max fan speed), at stock fan curve the CPU temp hits 70-72c @ stock volts I am well aware of heat soak, I've been performing these types of mods since the M11x R1/R2 days. I am limited to 2MB files and even my Galaxy S2 takes larger file pictures sadly (was trying to get around that, didnt work lol) Trying to upload the other picture but T|I isnt cooperating at the moment :/

Well thats good news, a broken set up is annoying... EDIT: uploaded pic of the copper added, and joined heatpipes for when the 755m is later disabled.

real estate shouldnt be a problem. If it is I can simply shave off some plastic, no biggie

Im not touching raid, any raid that is on the motherboard would require CPU grunt to handle and the goal for me is to eliminate the CPU overhead not create more of it. As I mentioned a few times already, m.2 is expensive here, and I will not be able to appreciate the difference anyways, mSATA SSD is plenty fast for an OS to be run on. I do not care about large sequential R/W. I dont want a cabled solution when I can have it bolted right in place of the existing port....Ive linked this earlier in the thread. The half size SATA port will be populated with an HDD or something I havent decided quite yet, that one will require a cabled solution but placement will be a bit tricky.

Its very likely, that your laptop was perinstalled with the dual core and therefore didnt need the extra phase, also if its a dual core single 755m then its also probable that it was a 720p panel. You likely need to change that in the BIOS as there are settings for how the LVDS1/2 is handled and what resolution etc (unlocked BIOS) As for why you cant follow on my idea I think I give up lol, Its not an advanced concept at all. You have NGFF/m.2 to msata adapter. You plug in the adapter, then plug in msata sdd. Done. Im beginning to desire running Ubuntu as the Host OS and just run Windows 7 as a VM with GPU pass through Then also maybe run a GPU from the mpcie slot as well, nothing crazy but 7870 level should suffice for just OS and light gaming until launching the VM for real heavy titles

No. There isnt. NGFF=/= mSata NGFF =/= SATA Thats why I was looking at NGFF to mSATA, as its nearly the same size. Has nothing to do with ultrabay at all. These laptops also came with 8-24GB m.2 cache drives you know. You must have a model that did not come with the connector soldered on, which was how it was for the cheaper models. (cheaper as in lower asking price)

There would be no conflict at at all, because its like 6 inches away from the ultrabay, and on the opposite end of the laptop...not sure why your thinking about the SATA adapter next to the pcie socket, which is also a potential solution but not the one I was speaking about. There is no risk at all...Ill be using a riser cable for my project so I can hang the pc on the wall. I know why you asked, but useless for games. Its only more pronounced if a bulk of your gaming is multiplayer, where you have to wait for everyone to load or there is a timer before the start of a game anyways. I mean maybe if you want first selection of your hero in Overwatch or something lol

I never stated that specialized loads may not be able to take advantage of it, but that consumer work loads rarely if ever will. All I have seen is a lot of hype, crushed, by people doing video editing over on OCN, then reselling them because they had boot issues (motherboard issue) then overheating problems on the controller (NVME issue). Its a new product and companies dont iron out these issues before launching them anymore. You'll have to keep in mind that pricing is relative. For me 256GB would end up being more than 300 because of shipping/ import duties. For the similar price I could get the NGFF to mSATA adapter except I would walk away with a 1TB drive instead of 256GB so it just makes more fiscal sense. Despite my bias of m.2, if its cheaper I would still use it for certain, the issues is being limited to 256GB. Some y510p's have a capacitor blocking larger drives as well, I remember this being the case on my first y510p, the current y510p doesnt have on there (which I thought odd, but pleasant.) I actually need to snap a picture of the port because it really doesnt look like an m.2 slot, but doesnt have the screw placement of mSATA either. Gaming in the 80's and Gaming now are completely different beasts. There were certainly no 40-200 million dollar budgets (even accounting for inflation) for any titles in early PC gaming. Even with that said you had fragmentation then just like there is fragmentation now. I prefer todays fragmentation where I dont have to switch my OS just to play a game or use an application, dont need to work around that problem with multi-OS booting or virtual machines. Though I like the idea of Multiboxing, I dont like having that as a NEED for day to day items. People want to hate on console gaming for holding back innovation but without the income from consoles its quite unlikely we would see what we have now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/252574879948?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT For the ultrabay SATA port, you can actually use it in tandem with the PCIE adapter. Other users have documented this in another recent thread. Just need a cable solution (which you can also find on ebay or amazon) otherwise a fixed solution might have some problems and your reasoning is sound. I am thinking you can remove the foam padding (or at least a portion of) and also the drive cage might open enough space for another drive, or at least another SSD with the casing removed. I accept this post may be scrambled, I am in between meetings and still getting my morning caffeine. I am probably going to just get a 4910mq in the future though, seems easier to deal with. 4910mq from a m4800 and replace its CPU with the 4700mq I have now and install a 965m 4GB and make my m4600 I have now into a media server or pfSense box. I love rPGA / MXM laptops, can repurpose when and for what ever I feel like

To you I will say the same thing I have said to everyone else. Provide an I/O profile, and back up your statements. Regardless, it has nothing to do with games :/ Bill Gates thoughts are irrelevant in every conceivable way. Utilized and actually saturating in work loads are vastly different, I am speaking to actually what you paid for, which is basically the performance represented by "benchmarks", you'll note none of the reviews actually provide I/O profiles but still mention that consumer workloads will not be of much benefit because the density of I/O for consumers is significantly lighter. We all like to think that just because the hardware is capable that the benefit will be corresponding. I could really care less about m.2 standard, its of no real tangible benefit to me as a consumer, more expensive than 2.5" counterparts and larger than mSATA for anything larger than 256GB (@44mm which the y510p is built for) Especially when I can get a NGFF to mSATA adapter and slap on a 1TB SSD for a whopping 1.50 off ebay. Not to mention overheating controllers causing them to throttle, hopefully they at least fixed that much with the later offerings. http://www.overclock.net/t/1500862/1-single-ssd-vs-2-ssd-raid-0/0_50 I defer to DuckieHo's judgement. The thread is old, however the premise is the same. I wont bother with your last comment, its also not relevant. You could also say that you wouldnt have any games to play if the consoles didnt exist, it does not automatically mean that market would just defer to PC gaming.

R9 Fury is irrelevant to Storage I/O Games will not utilize NVME to its potential. Even full bore video/picture editing has not yield much of a benefit over a regular SSD as many have found when looking at their I/O traffic. That and overheating controllers makes it a currently stupid buzzword technology to get people hyped into because of the nice looking large file transfers. 4702mq supports 2133mhz so I dont see why 4700mq wouldnt. I have some 2133mhz RAM in my other laptop, ill swap them and try it out. As far as I can recall, legacy mode = HDD, AHCI = SSD You cant switch them after OS deployment as it borks how the system reads that storage (vs how it was installed), y510p was way before pcie based NVME. I remember them days, NGFF it used to be called lol. Anyways other SATA m.2 drives are likely skylake and later machines and used for OS and not explicitly cache. @Tesla Can you check how your m.2 drive is installed? 2133mhz seems to work fine on the y510p. HyperX 16GB kit operating @ 2133mhz unless I am reading that wrong...

No NVME and last I recall you never install ssd's over Legacy, supposed to be AHCI isnt it? NVME is just a buzzword though, consumers dont have work loads dense enough to properly utilize it for the most part.

That is very strange, and definitely something you would want to have amended. Maybe there is a game you and Tesla share and can compare results? RX 480 > 470 even if the margin is small so if you end up with lesser FPS in a few games it would confirm that GPU-Z is accurate. @Tesla What do you think?

Dude you have the worst timing for your requests lol The laptop is back together and its setting overnight Takes 4-5 hours for thermal glue to set Preliminary testing is fun though, Pushed 1300 core on the single 755m +100mv offset. Might try for 1350c tomorrow, sad to see 1400c is too much Too bad SLI is garbage and crashes under almost any GPU intensive title I play @stock. (R6 Siege mostly, Coh2 doesnt support SLI) I bridged the gap between the heatpipes in preparation of its use for the CPU exclusively. Ill show pictures tomorrow, for now its time for bed.

Please be sure to share how you did that, would love to learn that process. Are you referring to the Gray boxes beneath the heatpipes Well at least can pull 4Ghz for gaming

Anyone overclock the 4930mx on v3.05? If so then we can at least confirm for anyone that would be willing to mod the BIOS that it would actually be worth the investment of time to begin with.