Eisbrecher99

Has someone already tested Setup 1.x with Windows 10 after a clean install? Any problems or advises?

I'm still waiting for the DreamSpark release.

Referring to my old benchmark results, I experimented with some overclocking settings with my GTX 760.

I recognized that the clock and memory speed, in comparison to other 760 cards, were reduced by factory.

With ~12% overclocking the results are much better. I couldn't believe that the difference would be so huge.

Probably I will give also CPU undervolting a try.

all with external display:

3dmark06, 3dmarkVantage, 3dmark11, 3dmark13

Specs:

Lenovo T530

Intel i7-3630QM, 8GB DDR3 RAM, HD4000 + Quadro 5400M

Inno3d GTX760 Herculez 2000s - 2GB - [email protected]

Windows 7 Prof. / 64 Bit

eGPU setup:

PE4L v2.1b with EC2C (100cm)

450W SFX-PSU

Setup 1.3

external: 23" 1920x1080

Nvidia driver 344.48

Hi,

I have two questions which are still unsolved in the German forum.

1) Is a Quadro 2000 for eGPU supported by Optimus? It has a Fermi Chip and he used the latest driver of the Quadro but Optimus seems to be not activated. Probably the driver is too old and doesn't have Optimus yet included?

2) Another user has a Samsung NP350V5C-A0E and he was already able to establish a connection over mPCIe. He has a Intel HD as iGPU and already deactivated the AMD dGPU with Setup 1.x. The TOLUD is 3,0GB. He is using Win 8.1 (GPT) and was forced to use an USB-Stick for Setup 1.x. He deactivated also Secure Boot and switched to "UEFI and Legacy OS".

Setup 1.x Screen #1, Screen #2

Chainloading by mbr leads to this, with gpt to this.

Hi,

in the German forum we have a little bit annoying problem with the special case of a X230 in combination with a eGPU. As you know the Lenovo X230 has the unique situation of two TOLUD tables.

The guy already posted something on the Lenovo forum:

Hi,

in the last 2 month I read quite a lot about eGPU and fortunately(at least I thought so..) I have a x230 notebook which usually works fine with eGPUs and also in some german forums there where quite a lot people with setups combining the parts I have right now.

Those are the PE4L-EC060A v2.1b Adapter to connect my new Zotac Geforce GTX 970 through the expressCard Slot in my X230.

My X230 has 16gb of ram and I thought that might be the problem but I have also updated the BIOS to the newest version 2.62 which should have solved the problem. I also tried with removing one bar of 8gb ram but still does not work. If I plug the expressCard adapter into my notebook it recognizes the card and i can install the drivers. But if I reboot, it hangs up during boot process before my grub loader shows up (I also tried with an usb fresh installed windows 7) and hangs there without any error or anything... I heard that if I start with the card inside it is normal that it restarts after 1 second because of the TOLUD Table which initializes again so these setups would work. But even then it does not work and freezes..

I also took a video of the booting process:

If I, like some guys recommended, plug the card in only when grub shows up, it boots but then I get the "famous" code 12 error.

Could it be because the zotac gtx 970 has 4gb ram?

I really dont know what to do anymore

I also did some pictures of my setup if that might help to find the source of what is going wrong:

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If someone could help me I would be veeeeeeeeeeeeeery glad

Do you have any idea what could fix his problem?

Thanks, nice reading!

Seems like some people had more than 3-4 FPS increase in different DX11 games, for me that counts like significant increase (especially on the min fps).

" Tested Hitman Absolution, the only one I remember

334.89 -> 72fps

337.50 -> 79.randomdecimal fps

And I have my frames capped at 80, so this is just brilliant!"

Have you also tested with some benchmarks? Obviously 3Dmark11 and 13 showed up at the end that the driver can't be recognized. The results are quiet the same as with the old driver. Only with Vantage I got a 17,67% better result... from 24.062 (334.89) to 28.314 (337.50). In addition I had some problems with Optimus recognizing my TFT. Beta driver...

The same situation for the new "G4" devices of Village Instruments (ViDocks)... their Thunderbolt-device also has not passed the Intel certification process. ^^

I found another Thunderbolt solution... called nanoCUBE. Unfortunately this device is quiet expensive with $435 (incl. case) but it seems to be available.

Oh yeah dude, I have two of them at home. A review is coming soon when my enclosure is done!

Great... until now I didn't know someone who has yet this adapter. Im looking forward to your review! In our German forum we also saw this Chinese adapter... but we were not sure, if this offer is reliable.

Here are the new two variants (EC2C and PM3N) of the PE4C already listed.

I don't see big advantages in comparison to the PE4L v2.1b... only the SWEX has benn integrated and the price is lower.

Aug-2013: Setup 1.20 beta now being distributed with many new features: Series-7/8 chipset, Win8, polled eGPU detection, Macbook installation, 13" Macbook PCI compaction, 36/64-bit compaction matching DSDT override + more. Will be officially released once HIT's involvement is finalized.

@Tech Inferno Fan: Is the Setup 1.20 already final and is there also a changelog available? I would be interested which "+more" features are included.

Yes... "low"... ^^ 111 points difference. But my scores in 3dmark06, in particular the GPU scores, are higher than yours.

@Eisbrecher99 In my opinion there is something wrong with your eGPU, your results in 3dm11, especially graphics score are definitely too low for GTX760 and Gen2.

Hm, I reinstalled the driver and now the result is 6867 points in 3dmark11 for the external display. By the way the new GTX760's are only new labeled GTX660 Ti with an higher clock and more bandwith which results in ~10% more performance. I took the new one cause the difference in price was only 17€.

So I will not be able to complete this benchmark results, cause I alredy sold my old GTX460 Hawk.

Now I have a Inno3D GTX760 Herculez 2000s, which fits perfectly in my modified Lian Li Case.

Here are my new benchmarks:

3dmark06 (1280x1024):+++++++++++ 3dmark Vantage: ++++++++++++++ 3dmark11:

- internal display: +++++++++++++++++ - internal display:+++++++++++++++ - internal display:

- external display: ++++++++++++++++- external display: +++++++++++++++ - external display:

heaven (1280x800):

- internal display:

- external display:

Specs:

Lenovo T530

Intel i7-3630QM, 8GB DDR3 RAM, HD4000 + Quadro 5400M

Inno3d GTX760 Herculez 2000s - DirectX11 - [email protected]

Windows 7 Prof. / 64 Bit

eGPU setup:

PE4L v2.1b with EC2C (100cm)

450W SFX-PSU

Setup 1.x (110b5) with Update for Intel7-Chipsets

external: 22" 1680x1050 LCD

Nvidia driver 320.49

Sorry for being "finical" (haven't really used that word before) but PLus seems to make their tests on desktop systems rather than notebook systems.

According to their tests made on the PCIEMM-060B (that was suppose to be GEN2) they told me that they had been done on a desktop.

Since these tests results doesn't apply to our notebooks it seems like it could make a difference.

I would be nice if they would make proper notebook tests for now on so these things can be prevented.

But that would be a contradiction to my information... Bplus told me, they had tested it with an Thinkpad X220. ^^

So, here are my new benchmark results. Probabyl I'm going to by a new GPU this month... I' very interested in the Herculez 2000s of Inno3D which has a very compact design (200.2mm x 111mm). I'm not sure if I should invest in a GTX660TI or the new GTX760. The difference in performance is only 5-7%.

- 21668 points in 3dmark06 (1280x1024)

- 15382 points 3dmark vantage (1280x800)

- other benchmarks will follow

Specs:

Lenovo T530

Intel i7-3630QM, 8GB DDR3 RAM, HD4000 + Quadro 5400M

NVIDIA GTX 460 1GB (MSI HAWK) - DirectX11 - [email protected]

Windows 7 Prof. / 64 Bit

eGPU setup:

PE4L v2.1b with EC2C (100cm)

450W SFX-PSU

Setup 1.x (110b5) with Update for Intel7-Chipsets

external: 22" 1680x1050 LCD

Nvidia driver 320.49

Ah ok, I thought it would be a Core2Duo machine. Sry!

@coyote: The PE4H v2.4a will perform best, cause a Dell with an E6420 will only have an Gen1-connection on the ExpressCard-Slot. You could also buy the PE4L v2.1b cause it is able to downgrade the connection from Gen2 to Gen1... if you would like to buy a better notebook in the future you don't have to invest another 70$.

@jacobsson: Yesterday I received my PE4L v2.1b replacement and the PCIE-MM060B cable for my old PE4H v2.4a. Now the new PE4L works perfectly and is stable!!!

But I can't also achieve Gen2 with the PCIE-MM060B on PE4H. The eGPU is detected in Setup 1.x and in the device manager, but the system is not able to start the latest nvidia / optimus driver. ^^ Same problem as with the first PE4L according to the not loading optimus driver. The driver says that a nvidia gpu can't be detected. In GPU-Z there is only shown a x1 1.1 connection.

@daver160: I added the versions of the models.

Great! Thank you very much for your help!

They already called me and made me an proposal for replacement. In addition I asked them for purchasing a PCIEMM-060B and shipping it together with the replacement, so one of my friend could use the old PE4H with PCIe 2.0, if this works.

I have tested my PE4L v2.1b (100cm) version with every setting I know.... the adapter can't establish a connection. Even forcing in Gen1 doesn't work... but my old PE4H v2.4a works perfect. ^^ I wrote Bplus Support (Colin) that this can only be a defect... and there is simply no other explanation. Since more than 3 weeks there is no solution... I'm very disappointed of their customer service.

Has anyone ever get an replacement for an defect PE4L? Communication over Email always takes so long... it seems that customers will be ignored if they have hardware based problems. BPlus said to me, they test every adapter before it will be shipped. But the question is... are these tests also so reliable as the tests of the first Gen2-cable for the PE4H?

@Nando: Is there a chance to get an replacement or a refund if I order the new PCIEMM-060B? Do you have any experiences with BPlus's behavior/obligingness?

I sold my T500 and the PE4H with EC works since two months correctly with my T530. Tomorrow I will try another 530W PSU, so I can exclude that the Silverstone SFX causes a problem with the power. My Silverstone SFX has 450W, 36A on the 12V lane. Actually that should be enough...

Are there any experiences with the goodwill of Bplus for replacement? I wrote them already my problem.

Hi,

I have a huge problem with my PE4L v2.1b with 100cm EC-cable which I received yesterday. I tried to establish an stable connection to my Lenovo T530 (3630QM, 8GB RAM, Intel HD4000 + 5400M Quadro, Bios 2.53) with an MSI GTX460 Hawk and a Silverstone SFX 450W PSU. I also have of course Setup 1.x with the Update for Intel 7 chipsets. Before the PE4L v2.1b, I used an PE4H v2.4a with my old Lenovo T500 and built an own case:

Since two months I have my new T530 so I would like to get PCIe 2.0.

Here I will describe what I am doing to run it:

I attached the PE4L v2.1b correctly to my system: 12V-floppy cable to the PE4L, PSU with 2x 6pin PCIe to the GPU... if the EC is attached to the T530, the light D1 is green and D3 organge. SW1 is on 1-2 and SW on 2-3.

In Setup 1.x I have to deactivate the dGPU (5400M Quadro) -> Compaction: 32bit Methode, Compaction of iGPU + eGPU -> Hot reset of the Nvidia (GTX460) -> G2 link speed to the Nvidia -> chainload Windows 7 x64

After booting into Win7 the Nvidia is detected as Standard-VGA and I installed the latest nvidia driver (320.18). Reboot, Optimus switched to the Nvidia and the eGPU was detected correctly. Also GPU-Z showed: PCIe x1 2.0.

Now the main problem:

When I started 3dmark06, heaven or vantage, the system started to lag a litte bit. In the first seconds of benchmarking everythings looks perfekt. The GTX460 raised up and all six red LEDs on the backplane are on, which shows the max. power consumption. In IDLE there are 2 red LEDs and normal LOAD there are 4 red LEDs active. After different long times in benchmark, the Nvidia driver crashed with the failure message:

IDirect3DDevice9::Present failed: Device lost (D3DERR_DEVICELOST)

I don't know whats the problem. Nando already advised me to set EC from Automatic to Gen1. That failed also. One time I the benchmark runs through the first scene in the hangar and after that in the wood scene, it crashed again. Sometimes it happends directly after starting the benchmark. ^^

At the moment I have the problem that the adapter won't be recognized anymore. ^^ I some cased it will be detected as GTX460 but then the nvidia driver didn't load. I rebuilt my eGPU with the PE4H v2.4a and ran several benchmarks... also on max power consumption with no problems at all. It seems that the PE4L v2.1b can't hold the connection.

Do you have any idea, what I should try further?

Regards

Eisbrecher99