druna27

Hello,
I've read your post, you get error 43. I suggest that you change the switch from GDC. 14s, 7s, or 0s maybe help you. If you still getting same problem. Win 10 is still have several error, I ever try to use gtx 750ti but as you can see on your screenshot, I got error 43. So, I rollback to win7 and everything work fine.

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Have you done to comnect your egpu to external monitor?

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Nice

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External display is no need much configuration. Just plug your egpu to external display and install the driver. Please check it in the device manager, if you get error 12, you need to do DSDT override. Just type "dsdt override" in this search column. Or check it on youtube.

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In bios, please enable hot plug. Modded driver is for internal display, you need selective to choose right driver. For example, I suggest that you choose 361.75 nvidia driver that confirm optimuz work fine. Just watch youtube, I'll be back where I save my link. I'm so sorry.

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For the first time connecting egpu, I suggest that you plug to external display. You need to mod nvdia driver+dsdt override+ setup 1.x to connect it on internal display. Don't forget that HP's notebook have whitelist, pci card is better.

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Hello,

In my case, I can run my notebook without DSDT Override. I just install setup 1.x and change the compaction. Everything work well. Have you done to check your notebook that mark as whitelist? Many people out there said that DSDT Override+Setup 1.x is perfect combination, but if I put DSDT on my notebook, I can use my wifi adapter again. Because I need to connect internet in public spot area. You will get BSOD if you unpug egpu. I suggest that you unplug 8gb RAM to become 4GB, if the system is stable, you can add more gigabyte. That's all my knowledge.

Kind regards,

Runa

Just google it, type your notebook model and check that your notebook mark as whitelist or not. If no one said that your notebook is whitelist. It is clear, your notebook support hot plug for egpu. Just plug in egpu and starting your windows.

Actually, I confuse to reply your post. But let me give you some suggestion.

Yeah, you have bought old graphics card that depend on your budget. I think it is still capable to play game created a few years ago. Although amd bring high bandwith, don't forget to check your Gen1 or Gen2 egpu performance. Everyone said that the performance is same but I think it is depend on your configuration such as ram, cpu, and hardisk.  

Please check your notebook as mark as whitelist or not. If you find it that your notebook is whitelist, you should instal mod bios.

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Hello there, I suggest that you choose the best graphics card from AMD or Nvidia. Exp gdc offer recommend graphics card for you. If you choose AMD, you must use your egpu by external display. On the others hand, nvidia support to use internal or/and external display. PSU is one of part to supply your graphics card, don't forget that exp gdc allow 220W for supply from your pcie. If you need more power just plug 6 pin to your graphics card from PSU. 500W is still good enough.

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Just wondering, you did it. I also instal hackintosh in HP 430 notebook. Everything work fine since I use internal display. When I finished egpu project, I can not connect egpu to old external display. The only way is using vga port. I also try to bootflag "nvda_drv=1" after instal nvdia web drive, but the monitor show blank screen.

My question is what is your video output? Vga port or hdmi port?

My notebook spect:
Hp 430 i3 2310m upgrade to i5 2520m
Ram 4gb
Dual os win 7 + yosemite 10.10.5

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On 2/17/2017 at 5:22 AM, diabloretriever said:

Yep, maybe i will order thermal paste first because the old one already finished. I just play pro evolution soccer and dota2 only when i have not implemented egpu yet

I'm back again for you. I got busy day yesterday, I'm so sorry. I just used the cheapest thermal paste under $1, because I live in small village. The result is not bad, I got 80 degree C when playing dirt3 with my egpu. I'm used to playing battlefield 2 with intel hd 3000 and psp emulator.

On 2/17/2017 at 5:22 AM, diabloretriever said:

yes, before i bought a monitor, i used my internal screen and optimus is enabled.

So, you never configure your bios to get internal dispaly work. Mmm.. I just wonder, I can not do that. Before bought egpu, I thought that windows 7, the older, can run optimus as well as all people do it. The fact is I got external display. I confused and tried DSDT overide. Yeah I can do it, but I failed to use my wifi card again. So I make clean instal windows 7 and no DSDT override by changing bios (primary dispaly>external monitor). What is your version of your windows? I should try your OS to make comparison.

On 2/17/2017 at 5:22 AM, diabloretriever said:

i set it to auto so the bios could set it automatically to peg when it is detected. i can do another experiment for you if you would. what do you it would be the best? i could try it for you

and, what is your best setting, i would compare it

Hey, when I set it to auto, I can not use internl display. If you want to use internal display just choose IGFX. Oh thank you. I never setting my bios again since I found that my egpu work fine in my notebook. Nice.. IMaybe I will try again later.

On 2/17/2017 at 5:22 AM, diabloretriever said:

similar to this but it is different. i used copper from another pc

On 2/17/2017 at 5:34 AM, diabloretriever said:

yes i ever considered to use thermal pad, but it is to low so it cant touch the modified steel. so think it would be useless.

After I realize that you are able to use custom heatsink, actually I curious to know about your heatsink. I watch youtube and someones use doubled thermal shims on the processor. They report that decreasing 20 degree C. I think your custom heatsink same as them. yeah, I'm wrong. How about your promise? It is weekend, right? 

Would you like to send me size of your old copper from internet? I want to know the dimention of the copper. You can give me another references such as heatsink from intel pentium or what else. Your suggestion is important for me. Thank you mate

copper shims or thermal pad. Have you ever heard about it? I guest that you mount it on the processor, right?

On 2/15/2017 at 3:19 AM, Ajayajayaj said:

he card does not use the extra 6 pin connector, is this still supposed to plug into the beast?

Please check your graphics card and connecting to PC.

On 2/15/2017 at 5:25 AM, diabloretriever said:

well, i use two harddisks at same time, ssd for sytem and hdd for data using this device: HDD caddy(look for it on google). it lets u to swap ur optical bay to secondary harddisk. i will update my thread then.

 

I think it's affect the bcd registry or something because when installing setup 1.3, it warns you when you change the ram or the hdd. it  instructs you to run some bat file when you do so(hdd/ram change)

Sorry for delay reply. The weather in my country make me sick again and I just take a rest as well.  Okay, I understand it. It is affect to the HDD and RAM too. In my case, I use my HDD seperately, but now I use 1 TB only. I keep my optical drive because somtimes I use it to backup my files.

On 2/15/2017 at 5:25 AM, diabloretriever said:

yes because previously i am used to playing games on this laptop and it  became hot too fast. I will share you the images but maybe at the weekend so i can disassemble my laptop to show the  heatshink scheme

Oh my God, we can share playable game too. Yeah, recently I just give small fan connect to adapter below the grid fan of my notebook. The temperature does not seem cooler than before but I still use it until now to keep good air flow. Yeah.. guide me to fix the heat problem, I will wait your instructions and folow your ways to disassemble my notebook. Last month ago, I just replace whatchamacallit pasta or like glue on my processor and now thinking how can I add heatsink just like you. I can not wait and patient to see your notebook.

On 2/15/2017 at 5:25 AM, diabloretriever said:

i cut the body near the mpcie port so the pcie cable could sit perfectly. i am using powered hub since i use many usb: fan, keyboard(need two usb), mouse, bluetooth dongle.

Oh I see. You want to permanent place your mpcie cable just like PC which is staying in one place. But unfortunately, I use my laptop to keep mobility, sometimes I put my wificard to get internet access in public area. Hehehe.. it is still free, I should use the facility as well. All I need to do just isolate the cable to keep movement. That's good idea. Powered USB can handle all your device, I should try it.

On 2/15/2017 at 5:25 AM, diabloretriever said:

i think the best way to benchmark your laptop/pc performance is to use benchmarking software beacuse it simulates the game with many feature: you can see fps, usage etc like u are playing game but better because it is standardized. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/benchmark-cpu-gpu-like-pro/

Okay, due to limited access for internet, I just use my game to know the fps. It is same as software benchmark but I did it with real time condition playing a game. My internet is metered and Downloading software such as Unigine is spending my money.

On 2/15/2017 at 5:25 AM, diabloretriever said:

yup, the intelHD 300 seems to be activated as well.

Oh the graphics card recognize as two monitor. So you can expand the monitor. My question is can you play game on internal display with your nvidia card? I affraid of internal display just use intel HD 3000 only, the nvidia just use external monitor. i want to clarify it.

On 2/15/2017 at 5:25 AM, diabloretriever said:

i have checked the bios and surprisingly it have not been activating  until now. lol. so the special feature is off.

 

On 2/14/2017 at 9:50 PM, druna27 said:

Here is my PCIE configuration. Without Setup 1x I can use Gen2 because the bios provide this configuration. Please check it

woooooowww thankss. it is really help. i will activate it. below is the image of my bios screenshoot of pcie port. as you can see, all the configurations are same.

Yup, you're welcome. The bios is providing all we need to use egpu. But we must carefull to change the configuration. Hey, I found the core cpu. You can use 2 core or 4 core, there are optional configuration. 

On 2/15/2017 at 5:25 AM, diabloretriever said:

here my score using gen 2 activated and primary display: auto

i tried it twice and it is shown similar results: the first one is around 14.000 and the second one is around 13800. it might be concluded that my result is same (before turning special feature on). I dont know why, maybe it is because the laptop somehow activating the nvdia as primary display when it is detected

Oh you conduct experiment again. I just wonder to see your result. There is no significant performance like you said before. I think your configuration is enable IGFX. Yeah we can avoid of using setup 1.3 by setting the bios.

oh I see. The power supply still good. If there is no 6 pin connector. I think it should work fine. GTX 1050 have some issues, have you done to change switch 3s, 7s and 14s? If you did it, you should check your connection to your notebook

Here is my bios setting. I If I choose Auto on primary display  (video configuration), I can use my egpu on external video only 100%.

I can use internal and external display (failed to use optimus) if I choose IGFX. I hope you send me your bios configuration like this. I will be waiting for you to do that. Thank you

Here is my PCIE configuration. Without Setup 1x I can use Gen2 because the bios provide this configuration. Please check it

This is my Egpu

4 hours ago, diabloretriever said:

here are the comparison between gen 1(without setup 1.3) and gen 2. there are not much differences

 

I saw you sre using vga from your gpu to your monitor, isn't it restricting the bandwith?

Please check the graphics score. Like I said before although there is no significant performance the FPS will drop fastly if you play game. Yeah that's not big problem, We still play game so well, right? 

Have you done to make comparison with your gpu run in PC than in your notebook. I've heard that we lost many FPS game because of limited bandwith that we use on notebook. 

Oh I remember. Let me ask you again. When Using internal display like your screenshoot in windows 10, the external display and internal display work as extended monitor. So you active Intel hd 3000?

Thank you so much. Headache and dizzy sometime. Sorry I can write as long as you.

I have 2 experiment with windows version because I have default 320gb hdd and new 1TB. Here is the result.

1. When I put 1TB+ windows 7 on my HP notebook, it will run smooth. So I check it by GPU Z, everything work fine. I test the notebook to play Dirt3 and got lag something. So I just try to make dsdt override. But the problem was found again when I plug wifi card to boot as internal display. If I boot with egpu everything work fine. Latest, I use windows 7 again and make clean instal without dsdt override and just use setup 1.x.

2. When I put 320Gb+windows 10 on my HP notebook, it will be failed to run my egpu. I got error 43. So I leave it and back to 1Tb+windows 7

this is the reason why I should make comparison with your notebook. You are succeed to make stable egpu.

Wow.. Amazing. You have done reduce the heat problem before conducting egpu project. I should follow you. That's good idea to make notebook cooler than before. May ask you again? I curious about inside of your notebook. The hole look bigger and allow air flow better, but what is the blue? below the hole should fan, so you put heatsink below hole? I hope you give me reference to custom my notebook too. I plan to upgrade cpu same as you and my ram.

Yeah, because I work with keyboard and mouse. It is still enough to power. The case will happen if I put 320Gb (my default hdd as external) to my notebook even though my asus phone as modem. The black screen is random and occour for long time period. I use black tape to avoid movement HDMI cable. The problem is because we use one scrup only and mPCIE look bigger than wifi card. It is risk to get black screen sometime.

I think the problem is your power supply. 500 watt should enough to power your GPU. How about GTX 1050? Still use 6 pin from power supply or not? If yes just plug to your egpu.

Here is my hp430 (repaint) configuration.

On 2/7/2017 at 1:22 AM, diabloretriever said:

 

 

i also make a comparison, but in my case, there are not much different. only 100 point difference in 3Dmark (for more objective comparison).

in order to recognize the port to gen 2, i just did the pcie 2 gen at the wifi port then i did the compaction. (as far that i can recall since it is about 7 months ago)

In my case when I play Dirt3. The fps will drop 10-15 frame if I use port gen 1. Yeah, the game still playable to run. I think the problem is bandwith. The gpu can not get full bandwith if it use exp gdc.  

On 2/7/2017 at 1:11 AM, diabloretriever said:

 

 

 

 

wow glad to hear that our notebook is same :)) we could collaborate further!

 

i have checked the gpu-z. it said it enables CUDA and openCL on my egpu (gtx 950)

 

in regards of cpu upgrade, it depends on your gpu. if it is bottlenecking the gpu, you should upgrade your cpu. As in my case, when i check it when playing the witcher 3, the cpu usage was almost 100% in all cores. therefore, cpu upgrading is mandatory.

 

One should bear in mind when upgrading the cpu to four cores cpu is about the fastboot. In my experience, when i upgrade to i7 (four cores) the windows automatically enable the fastboot which frequently hang the windows immediately after started. (well it is my hypothesis from my reading/experience since i am not an IT expert, yet it  seems proved to be true hehehe) 

after upgrading the cpu, the FPS of the game was increase significantly ( 30-40 fps in DOTA2)

 

yes i overide my dsdt but only modifying it for showing large memory (step 4)

 

i think you should use powered USB hub. It is because that in my experience, most of the time when i plugged an USB, the BSOD comes, and it is much obvious when it is a power-hungry USB. some users here also reported this as well (i am sorry i forgot the threads). This may conclude that EX GDC has very unstable build. Moreover, when i  accidentally touched the PCIE acble, sometimes it comes to BSOD.

On 2/7/2017 at 1:22 AM, diabloretriever said:

 

Hello, I'm so sorry. I'm getting sick last week, I can't go anyway. This moment I will reply all your quote.

yeah we can share our knowledge because of same notebook. Honestly, I change to put my primary display as external monitor. I don't want to use internal display because it make me confused. I got error code 12 sometimes, but if I run dsdt override, I can not use my atheros wifi again. I need it to download games in public wifi area. So external display work perfectly.

i5 2520m still good for gaming and rendering, but for next plan I want to follow you to upgrade my cpu regarding bottleneck. Woow.. amazing 100% cpu usage will heat your notebook. When I play game, I chang my cpu priority to 98%, I don't want to turn off Turbo Boost. It is still worth to upgrade cpu, yeah?

Would you like to send me your dsdt override? I also create it and hope can make comparisson with my dsdt.

Did you change heatsink or fan for i7 cpu? I think the temperature will increase due to different processor

I agree with you, exp gdc has unstable but I isolate my highspeed cable to prevent BSOD. The result it work fine. Maybe next week I buy powered usb hub, and try your instruction.

 

here my laptop : http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=5086556

I have repaint it and make several changes with its appearance so the laptop does not show as years ago. so i think it's better to show you the original one.

 

i did not change anything in bios except the hotplug setting.

about the cuda and opencl, i have never checked about that setting. however, i use extended screen/display as well as you described ( i am using internal display and external display ). i can check this after i back to my home

 

now i dont use setup 1.30 anymore which i found  more practical and only has slightly difference in performance.

 

 

When I plug usb keyboard, I got hang. Should I use powered usb?

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in bios, i just changed the pcie setting to enable hotplug. no other settings are changed.