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look at the dell xps15 its pretty slim even has a 960m and quad core cpu, ofc it s no desktop model but nontheless.

my oced 3920xm with 4,3ghz produces 50w in gaming... i think a skylake i7 6700 will not produce much more tdp when gaming, so it should be possible in some way

or fore example your 4800mq with the additional multipliers would already be sufficient for a 980ti via tb3

like others mentioned, a laptop with ~14" huge battery but reasonable slim and light with maybe desktop cpu or at least quadcore cpus, TB3, no dgpu

in other words a laptop wich is portable and usable as a laptop and at home a high end gaming rig

because now i have tu use a dell xps13, which will have TB3 but too weak cpu as it only has a i7 6500u

a clevo laptop with 980m

but nothing for 4k gaming which sucks

so i will have to choose next when 14/16nm gpus arrive between my clevo or a new 4k gaming rig

am i still the only 1 having the 980m always active?!

and yes, i have all the newest drivers always up2date an with every update i hope the 980m will stfu, since a very long while now, i will reinstall win10 soon, as i upgraded from 8.1 where i had the isue already and with a clean win10 reinstall i have the last hope the 980m will be quiet in idle for sure :/

well thats sure true but... als we can see in the alienware laptops they put weak soldered cpus in the laptops.

there is no more mobile extreme cpus like my 3920xm which can do 4.4 or more ghz in gaming if needed.

so we need machines like the clevo with desktop cpu...but imho if u have such a machine for example with the 980m with a little OC the benefit of an egpu setup with alle the problems, plus with the additional case and the additional screen the benefit is too small, it can be 30 maybe 50% more gpu power, but it costs so much money, 700€ for 980ti, 200+€ for case tb-cable ...additional screen after u already payed 2000+€ on an laptop

i always wanted a egpu setup, like 4or 3 years ago, nowadays since it is finally usable it lost its attractiveness.

dont u think it would be possible to add a cable like 6pin on desktop gpus,

i guess if gpu manufactures and resellers would relly want to use desktop gpus we already had it

well thats sad...

the clevo zm series show a solution for cooling high tdps, the clevo with the 150W CPUs can handle them aswell... but for a gaming laptop its not that important to have a high end cpu rather than a gpu, a cooling sink with 2 radiators for the gpu would easily be capable of cooling 200W it would make so much more sens to have a very big gpu instead of having a sli/cf setup with all the problems involved.

but i guess the main reason were not having desktop gpus available for laptops is the price, for the price of a aftermarke 980m u can get a 980ti but they use the gtx970 gpu instead...its a real cashcow

of course nvidia has no competitor on the one hand,

on the other hand i can run every game out there maxed out with my 980m on FHD and 60fps, for QHD even the 990m will be too weak and i guess they wanted to let the 980m be enthusiast level for quiet some time.

nevertheless im really looking forward to the 990m, if the card will really come with 200W tdp those laptops r truely desktop replacements. and amd could compete aswell with 200W a fury nano in a mobile gaming machine could be possible.

this could get very very interesting

hey guys,

it seems like some1 answered my prayers

instead of havin a desktop cpu, we now can hae a desktop graphics which will be the ultimate gaming machine

maybe we can have it with a desktoop cpu aswell but i guess that will be a monster of a laptop.

look at those links u guys

english:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-980-990M-for-Notebooks-may-be-based-on-the-desktop-GTX-980.147698.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/High-end-Lenovo-gaming-notebook-with-GeForce-GTX-980-GPU-may-be-in-the-works.148363.0.html

german:

Nvidia: Geforce GTX 980 (990M) für Notebooks auf Basis der Desktop GTX 980? - Notebookcheck.com News

there is no reason to not use the igpu when idle

why do you want to open the psu? i dont know how to open one and i think i wouldnt recommend doing so just cut the cords

always using the newest drivers

even when i play with the igpu the dgpu fan runs on and off....

no its not "normal" but as always there r gpus that oc good others not, seems u got a non oc gpu :/

das any1 here have the 980m in the clevo 170EM and problems with an active GPU? eg. optimus not working

should not be too much work to get it working...

only a little wirering and its done. just try it ist going to work

in any case, take pictures and make a how -to is u experiance any problems we sure all can help u by the pictures

Hello, I wanted to make a backup of my VBIOS with NVFLASH , but it is not. He does nothing at all I have to start again the notebook. When I enter the command NVFLASH -e or NVFLASH -list , and nothing happens and the notebook must also restart again . What can this be? Since I do not trust myself to flash the new VBIOS .

same problem here,

can some1 help pls?

why would i prefer noise level over not throttling?speaking of noise, my cpu is cooled with 50% fan power and the gpu gets hotter , of course, so its 80%, but the cpu fan is smaller than the gpu fan so if i use fn+1its WAY more noisier than gpu 100 cpu 50....

altought prema says exact the same as u do but i just dont understand that way of thinking, gaming laptops aren t silent systems and i want all the power my 980m can deliver there is no reason to prefer noise over performance

i dont know how much work it is @Prema, but maybe lets have both options, a performane option and a noise option...

btw. what id like to have is just that what celvo delivers in laptops with stock 980m, and what my laptop did when i had the 7970m...when the card demands full colling power, give it to "her" ^^(especially when we are raising the throttel temperature over the temperature that nvidia recommends)...btw that was what i was demanding from the first second on

92c let it buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrnnnnnnn

also, like i mentioned in various emails, let the fan run 100% BEFORE it throttels, there is not one reason to net let it run 100%

we need a graphic amplifier NOW!

desktop cpu + graphic emplifier = best thing ever happened

hey,

i think about getting the xps13

is there some1 out here that would be so kind looking into the dell bios if it can be modded somehow? XTU support would be awesome for example

try downclocking the cpu to 3.6ghz, also put display on lowest brightness and use balanced mode, to see if u have maybe a powerdraw problem

cheers

yeah, for benchmarking use the prema bios, so you can put the fans on full rpm mode and maybe even use a coold room with cold air in it due to get the max clocks.

also letting the cover open can help. remember to let some time between the runs so the system cools down.

also important is when the benchmark crashed due to unstable oc, reboot. with my 7970m is had to reboot twice or even 3 times to get the driver in the normal mode again...could be a amd problem nevertheless i use the same procedure now for nv

i cant realy tell you,

but the 7970m should be working, also 680m should work. depends on the money you want to spent or if i prefer a manufactor.

anyways you will have to get contact with a bios/vbios modder here, as i think you might have to flash a new bios to your machine.

it could be possible that clevo 7970m and 680m could be working right away.

is newer cards would work i cant tell, culd be that the 970m would be a good bang for the buck, as the price of the 980m is way to high for a laptop as old as yours.

nvidia is also releasing a 965m also with maxwell core, depending on the prie this card could alos be interesting and is very easy to cool

cheers

the only thing yoou shoould worrie about is the vbios,

installation is very easy, there r a couple of videos shwing how to change mcm carb but id say every1 can change such cards

oh god well thats awfull,

why wouldt the release a mxm card already? its about time amd reacts or are they relly waiting for 16nm?!

celvo needs an graphic amplifier

i just found out that the 15" alienware laptop can be eqipped with r9 295x mobile with tonga architecture and 4gb of ram.

i cant find benchmarks nor the date when it will ship but i think its highly interesting to see how it will perform

this could also mean the 980m/970m prices will get lowered soon

cheers