tiubxray

On 2/4/2017 at 2:16 PM, Arbystrider said:

 

The card or whether it's a mobile variant or not doesn't matter. The core inside does. The mobile variants of each "card" share the same core as some desktop card. For instance, a GTX675MX is fundamentally the same as a GTX680, as they share the same GK104 core, albeit with some CUDA cores and other compute units disabled, as well as drastic cuts in clock speeds to keep within thermal envelopes. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_600_series.

 

The "desktop-equivalent" GTX980 and 10-series cards you see nowadays is nothing more than the exact same thing, except the core chips don't have any disabled CUDA cores or whatever as compared to their desktop "equivalents". However they don't perform as well as they do because boost clocks still need to be reduced in most cases to keep within thermal limits.

 

I myself have (had) a GTX580 operate on internal display via Optimus. See also #4: https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/6275-pre-purchase-faq/, and I'm sure you'll find many others (both on here and NBR) who have had Optimus working on cards from the GTS450 onwards.

 

The reason you don't see GTX550Ti and such listed as Optimus-capable on their website is that makes no sense for Nvidya to advertise Optimus capability for their desktop cards, because few people care about Optimus on desktop cards.

 

And that few people is us.

So, if Arbystrider can provide solutions or methods to make my gtx550ti or gtx760 to work with my internal laptop display (Asus A42jv) trough Exp Gdc Beast, I will really appreciate it very much..... 

13 hours ago, Mr_Western said:

@tiubxray

Sorry for putting you in a tail spin, but I should have done my research before informing you. The gt 500m series and up, and the the GTX 800m series and up and the GTX 900, 1000 series and up support OPTIMUS . For more information check out NVIDIA official list of OPTIMUS supported cards.

 

P.S. I initially though it was the GTX 600 and up that supported the OPTIMUS, but I was wrong, so that means your GTX 760 does not support OPTIMUS, was again sorry for putting you in a tail spin.

Ahhh. It's ok. Thanks a lot Mr_Western for this info.

I am very grateful to you to do this research for sake to help me. 

18 hours ago, Mr_Western said:

@tiubxray

Its not necessarily the laptop but the GPU that would have to support the OPTIMUS. If ever in the future you upgrade your eGPU to something like a GTX750ti or something like that, you would be able to use your internal laptop screen.

 

Note: Using internal screens drops the performance, go with a GPU with about 4GB of VRAM (if you are ever looking to upgrade) and using eGPU solution would have issues with DX12 and VULKAN games as the game leverages more CPU into the mix and requires more PCIe bandwidth (which on a 1x slot is very limited).

Oh, I have one msi gtx 760 oc gaming. Is that card can be use to display from my laptop screen?

Right now the card (gtx760) is in my main pc system.

Update:

I put gtx760 to replace the gtx550ti, and still cannot view via laptop display. Any suggestions anyone? Thanks.

3 hours ago, Mr_Western said:

@tiubxray

Sadly you may not be able to use your internal screen. You need NVIDIA OPTIMUS to do this and it is only supported on what I believe to be GTX 6XX cards and up. Maybe there is some possible work around, but the proper way to do it is via OPTIMUS (that's how laptops with NVIDIA GPU's can display on both its internal and external monitors).

Oh, that is right. My laptop doesn't support Nvidia Optimus. 

So, had to go with external monitor setup. 

Thanks for the reply Mr_Western, really appreciate your help all this time. 

On 1/30/2017 at 5:04 AM, Mr_Western said:

@tiubxray

Are you sure your laptop GPU is properly disabled, if you are seeing it in your device manager it is not disabled properly. However, to display to your external screen, press (windows key + P) and select external monitor; or you can go into NVIDIA control panel and select the external display.

 Yes, the dGpu disabled completely. The gtx550ti works well via external monitor, but I want to use laptop display as primary display. Any suggestions?

Thanks Mr_Western for the reply.

On 1/25/2017 at 4:34 AM, Mr_Western said:

@tiubxray

Hmm strange, if your setup is working somewhat and you don't want to mess with it then leave it, if you want to tinker a bit here is what I would do since something seems off with the sleep option. Sleep option seems to require some sort of GPU either integrated or dedicated; if when you uninstall the dedicated GPU drivers and the sleep option goes away it would be that you do not have an integrated GPU installed. (I am assuming you have Intel) Go to intel drivers site and see what drivers there are (HD XXXX graphics drivers that is) and install it, to know if it has installed properly there should be an option for intel graphics somewhere about on your system. Once this is good (you have integrated graphics running) uninstall all GPU drivers (not the Intel graphics though) and repeat the hotswap process and see what happens.

 

That last thing you state is about the GPU's fighting for PCIe bandwidth, if you right click and view properties on either of them you would see error 12. Try what I mentioned above and see if it resolves the error 12, if not we message back.

 

P.S. Its always useful to include your full system specs, it makes troubleshooting easier.

Thanks Mr_Western for the reply, here is my laptop specs:

Asus A42Jv

Intel i5 450M 2.4Ghz

8Gb ddr3 ram Kingston

120GB Kinsgton SSDnow

Intel HD Graphics (1st Gpu)

Nvidia GT 335M (Secondary Gpu)

Link : http://www.laptopspec.net/2010/05/asus-a42jv-vx040d-14-inch-laptop-with-core-i5-450m-geforce-gt-335m/

UPDATE1:

UPDATE2:

Now my laptop can sleep and the dedicated gpu (gt335M) disabled completely. Right now I just want my laptop display to use the external gpu (gtx550ti). Does anyone can suggest how to do this. Thanks in advance.

13 hours ago, Mr_Western said:

@tiubxray

Try hot swaping the GPU into the system:

Directions for hotswaping:

-Start your laptop as normal with your wifi card in the system

-Once the laptop has started and within windows, put the laptop to sleep

-Once the laptop is asleep, remove the wifi-card and put in the mCPIe cable into the slot

-Once you are assured everything is plugged in correctly wake the laptop

-If the laptop starts and the GPU coughs into live you are good; if you get a black screen something is not right

Thanks @Mr_Western fot the reply.

The thing is my laptop cannot go sleep state after I remove the dedicated gpu (GT335M) drivers . For the laptop to sleep it require to install the gt335m drivers which is contradict with the EXP GDC installation procedure. I've already search how to put my laptop to sleep but it's not avail if I still not install gt335m drivers.

The option left just the hibernate function which is still stuck at loading windows logo when waking up from hibernate.

Thanks for the reply.

UPDATE1:

As I follow Mr_Western instructions, I reinstalled my gt335m drivers and now my laptop able to sleep. And I do as Mr_Western instructed and my system detected the gtx 550ti. Installed the drivers, and the reboot, and still stuck at windows loading logo.

UPDATE2:

After several trial and error, I successfully installed gtx 550 ti and make it work, somehow. But it has to be connected to external monitor. One more thing, after I restart my laptop, the whole display drivers was a mess. It cannot detect both of my gt335m and gtx 550ti. And there is exclamation mark on PCI Express root hub.

Hi everyone.

I need your help on my EXP GDC Beast V8.4d.

My egpu arrive yesterday and I try it out but seems like it not working because it stuck at windows loading screen (Windows 7 64bit). It stuck when the four color dot try to combine.

Before I setup my egpu, I've already uninstall my nvidia gt335m drivers by using DDU software. So just leaving my Intel HD graphic display only.

My laptop Asus A42jv

My gpu that I want to install as external gpu GTX550ti

I use both Dell power brick 220w adapter and 550w atx power supply.

Both of them give the same result.

Please anyone help me to solve this. Thanks in advance.

2 minutes ago, Plastixx said:

 

It's mainly for powering cards that get their power exclusively from the PCIe slot, like low power cards without 6P or 8P power inputs. If you use the barrel jack then there will not be any power present on the 6P output connector.

 

Another thing I noticed, at least on my v8.4d, is that the USB port only has power when using the barrel jack. If I move the switch to "ATX" and use the 8P power input, then there is no power on the USB port.

I already ordered V8.0 Exp Gdc Beast and I want to paired with Asus GTX 550 Ti and use Asus A42Jv Notebook. Please recommend which power input should I choose eg Dell D220 200w power brick or a normal PSU. Sorry for my bad English. Thanks again for answering my question. Thumbs up.

Hi everyone. May I know what is the function of 12v Dc Power In for Exp Gdc Beast 8.0. I try searching around and I couldn't find definite answer. Is it possible to put a normal 12v laptop power brick to this interface without put a Pc PSU?

Hope anyone can answer my question. Thanks in advance.