GTANAdam

Nvidia has released a driver update (378.49), has anyone tried it?

On 31/12/2016 at 11:07 AM, Arbystrider said:

Driver 376.33 working on ThinkPad X220 w/ raidrar's 1.40 BIOS, W7 x64, GTX960 via EXP GDC Beast.

What a troll.. ofcourse it will work Sherlock! duh!

On 23/11/2016 at 4:21 PM, GTANAdam said:

Let's clarify some things, shall we?

• If you're using mPCIe with no Hotplug capability (or not sure): use Nvidia driver version 372.70 or earlier.
• If you're using ExpressCard or mPCIe with Hotplug capability: use Nvidia driver version 375.76 or earlier.
• If you're using Thunderbolt: Use either the Nvidia driver version 372.70 or earlier OR 375.86 or newer.

Unfortunately, for those who are using the GTX 1050 Ti with no mPCIe hotplug capability or ExpressCard slot, you will not be able to use it correctly, the main reason is that the drivers for the GTX 1050 Ti are missing in the driver version 372.70 or earlier.

 

We've concluded that this concerns only the Nvidia Pascal Architecture GPUs, so I personally recommend skipping this one or move to the Red team if eGPU matters to you.

 

At the time of writing this, the latest available driver from nvidia is 375.95 which has completely broken mPCIe/ExpressCard eGPU capability.

To make it easy for those who are new to this issue.

On the other hand, 376.33 was just released, has anyone tried it yet?

People be smarter.. you can't just copy over files from a driver to another without changing things and whatever.. that's not even half of what porting means...

Adding Hardware IDs to the driver files so Windows Driver installer recognises it actually does the trick but you cannot expect the driver to work with the hardware correctly.

Some laptops come with the mPCIe hotplug capability already enabled so the drivers earlier than 375.86 will actually work without the need to mod the BIOS to enable hotplugging capability, I've noticed this while experimenting on my netbook as it accepted the the 375.76 without any BIOS modding so it must have the hotplugging capability turned on by default.

Please stop repeating the same thing over and over littering the thread further and further making the older posts unreadable for the others.. I'm not even talking about how some folks are not reading them and asking already asked questions.

and I don't want to repeat this..

YOU CANNOT RUN THE 1050 (Ti) PROPERLY WITHOUT mPCIe HOTPLUG CAPABILITY ENABLED IN BIOS AND READ THE OLDER POSTS!

Nvidia has pushed the 376.09 version.

We need feedback

EDIT: I was eager to try the new update thinking it might have fixed the issue, well, unfortunately it hasn't. Don't bother trying it out. (mPCIe with hotplug capability user)

EDIT2: I've been looking into nvidia driver files and I found something rather interesting added in the latest driver 376.09.. a new revision of the GTX 1060 3GB with the hardware ID DEV_1B84 (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1B84&..), so If you happen to own a GTX 1060 3GB with that Hardware ID then no driver will help you.

NVIDIA_DEV.1B84 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB" <-- The new Hardware ID included after 375.76 (last working driver)
NVIDIA_DEV.1C02 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB"
NVIDIA_DEV.1C03 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB"

2 minutes ago, Abdul-Jakul said:

yeah, and mPCIE egpu doesn't support hotplugs.. or do they?

I suggest you read the previous posts of this thread.

10 minutes ago, forfudgesake said:

I might remember it incorrectly. But I think that I only installed a newer driver untop of the old one and for some reason I did not have to restart. But that might be my memory playing tricks on me

That's a normal process of updating the driver using the Express Install option where a restart is not necessary as it hotplugs itself when necessary.

2 hours ago, Casanova said:

Take a look at how crazy this thing is, the 368.81 1060 3gb first driver, does not recognize the egpu, but the others drivers do!

Still not working anyway... Ideas??

 

2 hours ago, forfudgesake said:

 

It is very hard to help you when you do not tell us what you have tried.

Is the PSU set to always power the card? 

Have you changed the delay switch on the GDC Beast to 7 or 15 seconds?

 

Your problem is probably not  a driver issue as there are others who got that driver working with mpcie. 

Indeed, seems like a non driver issue. 

Try playing around the eGPU setup and see if something is incorrectly plugged in, otherwise fiddle around the eGPU setup 1.30 or smth like that by Tech Inferno Fan as it could be the dGPU conflicting with the eGPU since the unified drivers can't allow you to use both graphics card (in some cases it's possible) so disabling the dGPU if you have any will help you solve the problem.. if not, your last resort is to mod the BIOS, enable hotplug capability in all mPCIe slots and also disable the dGPU (and optionally the iGPU if possible).

Let's clarify some things, shall we?

• If you're using mPCIe with no Hotplug capability (or not sure): use Nvidia driver version 372.70 or earlier.
• If you're using ExpressCard or mPCIe with Hotplug capability: use Nvidia driver version 375.76 or earlier.
• If you're using Thunderbolt: Use either the Nvidia driver version 372.70 or earlier OR 375.86 or newer.

Unfortunately, for those who are using the GTX 1050 Ti with no mPCIe hotplug capability or ExpressCard slot, you will not be able to use it correctly, the main reason is that the drivers for the GTX 1050 Ti are missing in the driver version 372.70 or earlier.

We've concluded that this concerns only the Nvidia Pascal Architecture GPUs, so I personally recommend skipping this one or move to the Red team if eGPU matters to you.

At the time of writing this, the latest available driver from nvidia is 375.95 which has completely broken mPCIe/ExpressCard eGPU capability.

5 hours ago, Arquebusa said:

Just sold my 1050 ti...
Considering to buy a new GPU, your 1060 works flawlessly with old 372.70 right?

Could the 372.70 driver be used for both 1060 6GB and 3GB?
Or, should I move to the team red? again?

I had modded my computer's BIOS to enable hotplugging so I could get it to work.. same thing would happen with the 1050ti..

but the latest drivers broke everything.. I suggest moving to the red team.. nvidia seems to want that it seems

3 hours ago, Arquebusa said:

Here we go, 375.95 ain't working either,
So egpu using 1050 ti with mpcie is a bad option now, we're doomed because the oldest driver for it is 375.63

Any success story using 1050 ti?

Should I wait for nvidia to finally fix their driver?
Or should I sell my 1050 ti and get 750 ti or 1060?
 

all the Pascal cards are concerned, not only the 1050ti.

Nvidia clearly wants us to move to AMD.

nvidia has just pushed 375.95

I confirm that it does not work with the Hotplug option.

Nvidia has broken it past version 375.76.

17 hours ago, pieleke said:

Yes, its to bad because I mainly wanted to use the egpu setting for stitching 360 videos, and this is the thing that is not working properly with this older driver.

 

And i'm not feeling well about modding the bios. I'm going to sent a message to nvidia hoping they will come with a solution soon.

 

 

Already tried contacting the support, they weren't that flexible and said that Desktop GPUs for Laptops are not supported, it was a She and I bet she was surprised to know that desktop GPUs are usable on Laptops... ridiculous but that did not stop me tho, I went ahead and filled a feedback along with some information but I doubt they will do anything now that all the thunderbolt folks whom we stood with even tho we had a solution through BIOS are no longer gonna even open this thread.

I must confirm that the BIOS hotplug solution no longer works with the latest driver.

I have noticed while installing the latest driver that they have disabled hotplugging while installing the driver.. which causes it not to work..

Sadly, they were not able to make it work with out the need of hotplugging making it even worse for those who're on PCIe and not Thunderbolt

I'm having issues with it, the error 43 is back either Hotplug is enabled or not now.

Update: Nvidia screwed us up once again, reverting to an older version (before 375.86) fixes this. (EXP GDC)

Now what?

Nvidia has released an updated driver today versioned 375.86

Someone has to try it and report if it finally fixes this issue.

Time to dig into the drivers then, check the difference between the last working driver and after-last working driver and point out any possible changes that break it.

Try and share the results with us

I'd like to confirm my theory earlier concerning the Code 43 device error.

Seems like the newer nvidia drivers are trying to reset the graphics device while installing but such feature called "Hotplugging" is not safe on laptops so the BIOS actually partially disables the device to avoid further conflict.

So the solution is enabling "Hotplug" in the PCIe settings in BIOS.

For those who are not able to access the advanced options, You will either have to wait for Nvidia to fix it or actually install a custom BIOS (This is dangerous).

What I actually noticed, he had Hotplug option enabled which I had disabled when I disabled all L1 substates, gotta try that out as it could be just it.

theoretically, it could be that nvidia tries to reset the device when installing but the system does not respond correctly due to protection it has against hot plugging in PCIe.. could be it but I am not sure.

36 minutes ago, bloodhawk said:

 

Yeah the latest driver is working as well, after i disabled the Advanced Error Reporting.

Were you able to unlock that option as well ? 

 

Instead of ASPM try and check if there is something called "Advanced Error Reporting" or similar under the PCIe settings for the port your eGPU is connected to. Because is the only think that worked for me. ASPM didn't do anything.

 

The black screen could either be :

 

- Unstable link.

- Insufficient power.

- In sufficient Bandwidth, when other ports are being used.

 

Here is a thread i created on their drivers forum :

 

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/970339/geforce-drivers/372-90-373-06-drivers-preventing-use-of-gpus-compute-cards-over-m-2-ngff-mpcie-/

You should consider joining us on fixing this driver issue as you can see not everyone is able to access the Advanced BIOS options, I am sure it's a driver related problem that can be easily fixed. 

I am planning on investigating this problem and making a modded version of Nvidia's drivers for the GTX 1060 eGPU folks like myself.

But first, we need to inform Nvidia on this matter, they could easily fix it since they're the ones developing it.

Update: Oh, I've just checked the link you've posted, It's great that someone has informed them about this.. everyone should support it so it could be fixed asap.

I have created an account here just to explain that isn't Macbook-only related.. It concerns every PC in general..

I have a GTX 1060 3Gb and an Asus S551LB that I have modded the BIOS by myself to unlock all the menus along with the hard to unlock chipset menu, and have successfully managed to disable all the cards except the PCIE (the eGPU ofc) card, but that hasn't fixed it.. the only solution which worked was this 372.70 driver which worked perfectly fine, disabling all the PCIe ASPM related features in BIOS did not fix this for me nor when installing the driver too.. seems like Nvidia has introduced some changes that actually break something which they could actually fix if we protest and report in their forums in masses, write emails or whatever works.. (I am getting some interruptions from time to time for unknown reasons like black screen for a second)

Thank you for the driver hint btw, that's an awesome solution cuz I thought I had faulty devices.

Has anyone tested the latest 28th of October driver release?