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Celestus

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  1. Regarding the cpu load in 4k, higher the resolution the more load on a graphic card and less fps, less fps is less load on cpu. So for example in 1080p you gona get "200fps"(wild guess) high cpu load since it has to do alot of work by processing these frames for gpu, in 4k you get 50fps so thats alot less work for cpu to handle and most work is done by gpu(more pixels to render).

    To sum it up for 4k you dont need a very powerfull cpu, but in 1080p it will be a bottlneck.

    I remember reading an article about this somewhare, it was a low end cpu and high end gpu, it went something like 1080p- about 30% less performance than on high end cpu , 1440p 15% less performance than high end cpu and 4k was bout 5% less(now mind you the numbers ar not exact it was a different cpu, but it should give you an idea how it works) :)

     

  2. OK so the sli bridge idea is a bummer it would seem. So lets try another angle, how does latopt detect all nvidia cards and blocks them while passing ati cards ?  The answer to that would be the information stored in vbios(graphic cards bios). Start gpu-z and you can see basic info like bios version , subvendor and device id. By using  Nvidia Bios Editor(or something simmiliar) you could change much of that info and may be able to trick laptop in to passing the gfx. Obviously with that the drivers will no longer recognise the hardware , but you can manually force driver installation, but thats an issue to deal with if this works. The problem is you have to extract graphics card bios modify it and than flash the gfx with new bios,so preferably use it on an old gfx for test and backup original bios in case of failure(and you need a desktop with another gfx for that).

    And thats just another idea more of a workaround it dosent really solve the issue, we cant be buying new graphics cards and flashing all theyr bioses just to make them run, but it would help to identify the actual problem is it device id, sub device id,sub vendor id.  Anybody up for testing ?

    Heres an example of such info stored in vbios   www.majorgeeks.com/index.php?ct=files&action=file&id=941

  3. Hello everyone, im very interested in this adapter, however im a bit concerned with the nvidia cards issue.(This is in regard to y510p) So i done some thinking of my own and id like to hear your thoughts on this.

    So lets begin.  Why does the ati cards work (i asume they ware not blacklisted/whitelisted ) ? How do you blacklist something that does not exist ? Gtx 9xx series/gtx 10xx series did not exist when this laptop was made.

    Following that train of thought, maybe its not the bios that blocks nvidia cards, maybe the moded bios is enough and something els interfers. What you may ask,the answer i came to is SLI Bridge. Let me explain why i think its the sli blocking the nvidia cards. The way sli works, is you have to have an sli bridge/ribbon to connect two graphic cards, but what about our laptop ? i t does not have extra ribbon. So how the graphic cards communicate ? the ansuer is through ultrabay slot, it has to have some pins responsible for sli communication, so if sli trys to initialize on ati card it wont work(as ati cards dont even have pins/tech responsible for that) and it lets it pass as some other device and it manages to boot, but what about nvidia cards ? They ar sli capable and sli trys to initialize, finds the card ,recognizes as sli capable... but different model than dedicated so it blocks it. Obviously we cant be desoldering sli bridge chip from our motherboard(too dangerous). So what if we simply blocked sli communications on the adapter with something simple like using nail polish on pins responsible for sli to stop conductivity/signal and possibly blocking sli bridge from detecting graphic card and blocking it and possibly allowing laptop to boot like with ati card.(obviously that requires knowledge about schematics and figuring out wich pins ar reponsible and alot of testing) Basicaly i think the adapter may be too well made, another thing to test would be to put Gt755 card in too adepter and see if that will work. But again its alot of know how and someone with the adapter and knowledge would have to test it.

     

    Another isse i find with the adapter is the ability to use internal display. As external display is a big no-no for me, i started to look around how does eGPU do it and well i think this will aplly to this adapter as well.

    http://www.owen-lu.com/egpu

    So read this from the Driver section(its for nvidia cards but it should explain how laptop displays work)

    And basically you have to modify the driver so the laptop(optimus) thinks its an internal(dedicated) card and it will communicate through the igpu(integrated gfx) to internal laptop display (or something like that), the link explains this better. However i dont know about Ati cards, will they somehow work with optimus ? That ill leave for someone else to reasarch. Sadly no more time to resarch and i really wanted to post this.

    So tell me what you think, am i onto something or did i just waste our time with something useless ? ^^ (sorry for punctuation and english, im in a hurry as i type this and english is not my first language as for many here)

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