diabloretriever

Hi, i also have exact problem. Now i put the exp gdc outside the pc closure.

 

Do you think that using ups or surge protector could solve the problem?

 

yes i ever considered to use thermal pad, but it is to low so it cant touch the modified steel. so think it would be useless.

17 hours ago, druna27 said:

Sorry for delay reply. The weather in my country make me sick again and I just take a rest as well.  Okay, I understand it. It is affect to the HDD and RAM too. In my case, I use my HDD seperately, but now I use 1 TB only. I keep my optical drive because somtimes I use it to backup my files.

no worries mate, it's okay.. 

 

17 hours ago, druna27 said:

Oh my God, we can share playable game too. Yeah, recently I just give small fan connect to adapter below the grid fan of my notebook. The temperature does not seem cooler than before but I still use it until now to keep good air flow. Yeah.. guide me to fix the heat problem, I will wait your instructions and folow your ways to disassemble my notebook. Last month ago, I just replace whatchamacallit pasta or like glue on my processor and now thinking how can I add heatsink just like you. I can not wait and patient to see your notebook.

Yep, maybe i will order thermal paste first because the old one already finished. I just play pro evolution soccer and dota2 only when i have not implemented egpu yet.

 

17 hours ago, druna27 said:

Oh I see. You want to permanent place your mpcie cable just like PC which is staying in one place. But unfortunately, I use my laptop to keep mobility, sometimes I put my wificard to get internet access in public area. Hehehe.. it is still free, I should use the facility as well. All I need to do just isolate the cable to keep movement. That's good idea. Powered USB can handle all your device, I should try it.

oh i got it. i transform my laptop now to a pc.

 

17 hours ago, druna27 said:

Oh the graphics card recognize as two monitor. So you can expand the monitor. My question is can you play game on internal display with your nvidia card? I affraid of internal display just use intel HD 3000 only, the nvidia just use external monitor. i want to clarify it.

yes, before i bought a monitor, i used my internal screen and optimus is enabled.

 

17 hours ago, druna27 said:

Yup, you're welcome. The bios is providing all we need to use egpu. But we must carefull to change the configuration. Hey, I found the core cpu. You can use 2 core or 4 core, there are optional configuration

wow that's would be an useful information. thanks mate!

 

17 hours ago, druna27 said:

Oh you conduct experiment again. I just wonder to see your result. There is no significant performance like you said before. I think your configuration is enable IGFX. Yeah we can avoid of using setup 1.3 by setting the bios.

i set it to auto so the bios could set it automatically to peg when it is detected. i can do another experiment for you if you would. what do you it would be the best? i could try it for you

and, what is your best setting, i would compare it

 

5 hours ago, druna27 said:

copper shims or thermal pad. Have you ever heard about it? I guest that you mount it on the processor, right?

similar to this but it is different. i used copper from another pc. 

8 hours ago, druna27 said:

I have 2 experiment with windows version because I have default 320gb hdd and new 1TB. Here is the result.

1. When I put 1TB+ windows 7 on my HP notebook, it will run smooth. So I check it by GPU Z, everything work fine. I test the notebook to play Dirt3 and got lag something. So I just try to make dsdt override. But the problem was found again when I plug wifi card to boot as internal display. If I boot with egpu everything work fine. Latest, I use windows 7 again and make clean instal without dsdt override and just use setup 1.x.

2. When I put 320Gb+windows 10 on my HP notebook, it will be failed to run my egpu. I got error 43. So I leave it and back to 1Tb+windows 7

 

well, i use two harddisks at same time, ssd for sytem and hdd for data using this device: HDD caddy(look for it on google). it lets u to swap ur optical bay to secondary harddisk. i will update my thread then.

 

I think it's affect the bcd registry or something because when installing setup 1.3, it warns you when you change the ram or the hdd. it  instructs you to run some bat file when you do so(hdd/ram change)

 

8 hours ago, druna27 said:

Wow.. Amazing. You have done reduce the heat problem before conducting egpu project. I should follow you. That's good idea to make notebook cooler than before. May ask you again? I curious about inside of your notebook. The hole look bigger and allow air flow better, but what is the blue? below the hole should fan, so you put heatsink below hole? I hope you give me reference to custom my notebook too. I plan to upgrade cpu same as you and my ram.

yes because previously i am used to playing games on this laptop and it  became hot too fast. I will share you the images but maybe at the weekend so i can disassemble my laptop to show the  heatshink scheme.

 

8 hours ago, druna27 said:

Yeah, because I work with keyboard and mouse. It is still enough to power. The case will happen if I put 320Gb (my default hdd as external) to my notebook even though my asus phone as modem. The black screen is random and occour for long time period. I use black tape to avoid movement HDMI cable. The problem is because we use one scrup only and mPCIE look bigger than wifi card. It is risk to get black screen sometime.

i cut the body near the mpcie port so the pcie cable could sit perfectly. i am using powered hub since i use many usb: fan, keyboard(need two usb), mouse, bluetooth dongle.

 

8 hours ago, druna27 said:

Please check the graphics score. Like I said before although there is no significant performance the FPS will drop fastly if you play game. Yeah that's not big problem, We still play game so well, right? 

Have you done to make comparison with your gpu run in PC than in your notebook. I've heard that we lost many FPS game because of limited bandwith that we use on notebook. 

i think the best way to benchmark your laptop/pc performance is to use benchmarking software beacuse it simulates the game with many feature: you can see fps, usage etc like u are playing game but better because it is standardized. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/benchmark-cpu-gpu-like-pro/

 

8 hours ago, druna27 said:

Oh I remember. Let me ask you again. When Using internal display like your screenshoot in windows 10, the external display and internal display work as extended monitor. So you active Intel hd 3000?

yup, the intelHD 300 seems to be activated as well.

 

7 hours ago, druna27 said:

Here is my bios setting. I If I choose Auto on primary display  (video configuration), I can use my egpu on external video only 100%.

I can use internal and external display (failed to use optimus) if I choose IGFX. I hope you send me your bios configuration like this. I will be waiting for you to do that. Thank you

i have checked the bios and surprisingly it have not been activating  until now. lol. so the special feature is off.

 

7 hours ago, druna27 said:

Here is my PCIE configuration. Without Setup 1x I can use Gen2 because the bios provide this configuration. Please check it

woooooowww thankss. it is really help. i will activate it. below is the image of my bios screenshoot of pcie port. as you can see, all the configurations are same.

 

 

here my score using gen 2 activated and primary display: auto

i tried it twice and it is shown similar results: the first one is around 14.000 and the second one is around 13800. it might be concluded that my result is same (before turning special feature on). I dont know why, maybe it is because the laptop somehow activating the nvdia as primary display when it is detected

here are the comparison between gen 1(without setup 1.3) and gen 2. there are not much differences

 

I saw you sre using vga from your gpu to your monitor, isn't it restricting the bandwith?

sorry to hear that, hope you getting well

 

I also make external display as main display(no particular reasons, just to make the game display at the monitor)

 

yeah, i checked bottlenecking using MSI afterburner. i dont install the turboboost monitor so i dont know wheter it is on or not, however,as long as i can remember, turboboost is managed automatically (cmiiw). so better check it with msiafterburner i suggest before upgrading your cpu. Probably it worth since most of the game now using quadcore cpu to work seamlessly.

 

Recently, i install again the setup 1.3. Afterthat i compared gen 1 and gen 2 speed which showed no differences in 3dmark.

 

I think most of HP 430 owner suffer the heat problem LOL, so I customized the heatsink long before cpu upgrade or this egpu project. i make a hole beneath the cpu (on bottom plastic body) and cover it with steel plate with small holes, and connect the main heat sink to this plate with used copper heatsink so the heat can flows from the heatsink to outside. I also put a dust cover under the plate to avoid dust come to the heatsink. with this tweak, i notice considerable decrease of temperature.

 

 i am really sorry that i cant find my dsdt.aml file. have searched it but i dont know where is it. I use this tutorial 

i dont change anything except everything the video instructed. sorry for this

i send it after i found it, maybe somewhere inside one of my usb stick.

 

wow thats good idea to fixate the cable. i ll try latter. 

 

here my setup:

 

6 hours ago, druna27 said:

In the first paragraph you said that you run egpu by setup 1.3 to get gen 2 pci e and pci compaction. I just wonder you do that. Actually I make 2 comparison between with or without setup 1.3, the result is better to use setup 1.3 when I play dirt3, the game run smooth.

But the problem is I should open setup 1.3 and run test chainloader. Without test, I failed to boot (even automatically startup.bat). I think that you make some configuration

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i also make a comparison, but in my case, there are not much different. only 100 point difference in 3Dmark (for more objective comparison).

in order to recognize the port to gen 2, i just did the pcie 2 gen at the wifi port then i did the compaction. (as far that i can recall since it is about 7 months ago)

 

 

 

6 hours ago, druna27 said:

Oh my god. Same as you, the series notebook hp 430, I also repaint my notebook. Fortunately, I upgrade default cpu (i3 2310m) to i5 2520m. When I get turbo boost, the laptop always shutdown. Then I turn off it by change priority performance. Do you get faster cpu by i7? It is worth or not?

Okay, I understand. Have you made dsdt override for your notebook?

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When I plug usb keyboard, I got hang. Should I use powered usb?

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wow glad to hear that our notebook is same :)) we could collaborate further!

 

i have checked the gpu-z. it said it enables CUDA and openCL on my egpu (gtx 950)

 

in regards of cpu upgrade, it depends on your gpu. if it is bottlenecking the gpu, you should upgrade your cpu. As in my case, when i check it when playing the witcher 3, the cpu usage was almost 100% in all cores. therefore, cpu upgrading is mandatory.

 

One should bear in mind when upgrading the cpu to four cores cpu is about the fastboot. In my experience, when i upgrade to i7 (four cores) the windows automatically enable the fastboot which frequently hang the windows immediately after started. (well it is my hypothesis from my reading/experience since i am not an IT expert, yet it  seems proved to be true hehehe) 

after upgrading the cpu, the FPS of the game was increase significantly ( 30-40 fps in DOTA2)

 

yes i overide my dsdt but only modifying it for showing large memory (step 4)

 

i think you should use powered USB hub. It is because that in my experience, most of the time when i plugged an USB, the BSOD comes, and it is much obvious when it is a power-hungry USB. some users here also reported this as well (i am sorry i forgot the threads). This may conclude that EX GDC has very unstable build. Moreover, when i  accidentally touched the PCIE acble, sometimes it comes to BSOD.

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7 hours ago, druna27 said:

 

I conduct my bios experiment. I change video configuration> enable special feature> there are igfx,peg,pci.

When I change to igfx, I can use internal and external graphics (extend screen monitor+internal display), but my egpu (checked in GPUz) is not able to use cuda and opencl. There are no check marks.

The case is different if I put pci on bios menu. I use egpu with monitor and work fine.

Sometimes I got trouble with setup 1.3, blankscreen after test chainloader. I use win 7. Would you like to send me some pictures about your hp430 notebook?

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here my laptop : http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=5086556

I have repaint it and make several changes with its appearance so the laptop does not show as years ago. so i think it's better to show you the original one.

 

i did not change anything in bios except the hotplug setting.

about the cuda and opencl, i have never checked about that setting. however, i use extended screen/display as well as you described ( i am using internal display and external display ). i can check this after i back to my home

 

now i dont use setup 1.30 anymore which i found  more practical and only has slightly difference in performance.

 

 

in bios, i just changed the pcie setting to enable hotplug. no other settings are changed.

On 1/28/2017 at 5:55 AM, druna27 said:

Hello, my notebook same as you. I want to to follow your instruction. Can I use internal monitor?

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yes of course. you can use internal monitor.

 

i strongly suggest you to use PE4C instead of exp gdc since the exp gdc is very unstable.

previously i encountered many BSOD/hang with exp gdc. but when i use powered usb hub. it doesnt appear anymore. it maybe because the usb wifi make curent unstable i suppose??

one thing that i encountered BSOD it when i touch the cable. even some times just to adjust its position. i put the exp gdc and my gpu in case (raijintek metis) which in the case, the egpu setup is secured the position of the hdmi to in constant downward position. so what do you think the problem?? maybe in the mpcie port on the laptop? but is it tighten by screwdriver? 

 

On 7/8/2016 at 7:22 PM, yeahman45 said:

 

On 7/8/2016 at 5:30 PM, 3RYL said:

Not really, you may just clean your card frequently. But I think it's good to have one to protect the card and organize the parts. I did not use my egpu very much yet as I didn't like having the unprotected gpu, psu and cables on my desk and moving it all around when I need to. I'm currently working on a case and when finished I will start using the egpu more frequently.

yeah. thank you. It's great to create a custom case.

 

I am planning to use silverstone milo series ML08. but currently i own a ATX PSU. from what i read it should use SFX PSU but in limitation, they don't say that ATX PSU could not fit.

what do you think?? 

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=607&area=en

 

 

 

 

On 7/8/2016 at 7:22 PM, yeahman45 said:

 

hahaha!!! yeah you are right man!!

But I want to use a case but the EXP GDC wire is so short... is there a way to extend it? is it a standard hdmi cable?

I read a thread here(but forget where exactly it is) it said that extension HDMI cable or the 90 degree HDMI extension did't work at all. 

i'll find the thread then post it here.

is it needed to use enclosure? to avoid dust?

---updated-----

see below---

 

Hi all 

 

i want to share my experience for you that want to implement egpu on HP430 laptop. since HP 430 has many variant, so i think this method can be implemented to other such as HP 630/631 or 431. or wether the i5 atau the i3 version. you can try

 

here are my system

 

Laptop Name :HP 430 A

Processor: i5-2430m (dual core) --- update(upgrade to i7-2670qm)

igpu: intel HD 3000 

no dgpu ( i don't know for other variant that has dgpu, i think it might work, just try disable the dgpu from setup 1.3)

RAM : 8gb

Harddisk: upgraded to SSD sandiks 120gb

EXP GDC beast v8.0 via mpcie (2gen)

egpu: gigabyte NVIDIA GTX 950OC 2gb (i was afraid to test better card since no guarantee it might be worked)

psu: corsair VS450 (450 watt, i don't like it because the cables are undetachable)

 

The step:(updated see below)

    1. pin22 isolation to pass boot screen related to black bootup. i set to 14s delay in switch

    2. setup 1.3 (for 1.2 optimus(?), bought it because the wifi mpcie port is whitelisted but then used bios mod instead)

    3. bios mod (yeah as other hp laptop, HP sucks! need this mod to overcome mpcie whitelist) got from here. Thanks to kopter3161 to make bios downgrade is much simpler for noob.

 

from setup 1.3 i can see my TOLUD size is 2.7. but because of my curiosity, i tried to overide my DSDT to see large memory input in device manager. Therefore, i can do 56gb compaction

setup 1.3: PCI compaction at 56gb. (as in setup 1.3 help, it's number #1) pcie port: gen 2 speed.

i dont know if i can increase the performance more, in 3dmark bench mark i got around 11000 in skydiver and around 4400 in firestrike.

 

Thanks all

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update

 

recently upgrade my processor to i7-2760qm and the laptop is frequently hang after start up.

I managed to make it stable. even now i dont use setup 1.3x anymore.

here the step

 

1. isolate pin22

2. set exp gdc to left.

3. downgrade the bios as i mentioned above. and in BIOS setting, set the pcie port(my wifi port is port3) to enable hotplug.

4. dsdt overide to show large memory.

5. disable fastboot.

 

i compare the gen2 and gen1 but the result is same so I don't use setup 1.3x anymore. 

 

---update-----

 

- i Found the EXP GDC is not stable if we using another usb especially  USB wifi dongle. I read a thread here that suggest to use powered USB Hub. now i never found hang/BSOD anymore guys.

 

- i see significant increase of performance when i use external monitor. in skydiver 3dmark it increase to 14.500 from 12.400

 

 

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i dont know what i have done. but i just change the the tape to red color and take out the paperclip.

i think the green led is broken so thats why i thought it didn't work. 

i will make thread for my hp 430 laptop egpu. thanks guys..

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Hi all,

 

i have managed to recognized my egpu. 

here are my system 

hp 430 (i5-2430m)

gigabyte nividia gtx 950OC

corsair vs450 450 watt

exp gdc beast v8.0

 

i managed to overcome the mpcie whitelist with biosmod. (with setup 1.3x no luck)

 

but, i can't pass to setup 1.3/windows with my egpu turned on. delay to 14s and i tried to isolate pin 22 with clear tape but still same. i did paperclip tricks but no hope.

so now i have to hotplug it (but in hdmi cable in my exp gdc).

my question:

1. is there any tricks other than pin 22 isolation? need to rid out this hotplugging.

2. if i use hdmi extender, will the performance of my egpu decrease?

 

Thank you guys

 

hi all,

 

i cant do whitelist with setup 1.3x.(my laptop is hp with obvious whitelisting problem)

save port>shutdown>put exp gdc mpice>turn on>enable port>restore port.  

but it is not detected?!

and my setup 1.3 FREZEE and can't comeback to menu. any ideas?

HI everyone,

 

Anyone think that cm 130 would fit for exp gdc beast + gigabyte gtx 950OC 2gb + atx psu(corsair vs450)??

 

Will I still need the riser since gigabyte gtx 950 only half leght?

On 30 May 2016 at 8:55 AM, john.wayne said:

Hello, i have an issue my laptop (HP 470 G1\iGPU HD4600\dGPU AMD8750m) hangs on boot before bios, with EXP GDC 8.3. 
I tried CTD\PTD switch but no result in any position.
I tried to tape pin22 on mPCI to get through boot with my eGPU attached - no result.
My questions:
1. Is there any other way to get a delay and go through bios?
2. Is there any other trick (like pin22 trick) but especially for EXP GDC to trick my bios? I beleive pin22 trick was not for EXP GDC?

 hi, i got same exact problem. do you have the solution??

 

for now. i just hotswap my wifi in setup 1.3.

 

only that way i can make my setup work. i wonder if our ptd switch is broken???

 

and,

is the switch only one? only ptd without cd??

Hi All.

I really want to upgrade my laptop HP 430A so i can use egpu. I have checked the issue related in first page. but as i own HP laptop, i can not assure if my laptop mPCIe is whitelisted. is there any software to check it??

thank you.