jegarfor

I did it in dos mode. I don't remember the error. it said something like that the he couldn't check the current bios or it was not compatible. I had the .51X and wanted to try with the .30P again.

I will try to remember what I did. First I wrote (with the afudos included in the 30p zip) afudos E1762IMS.30P /p /b /n /k and it said he couldn't detect any compatible system. With the same afudos that I uploaded the .51X and using AFUDOS.exe E1762IMS.30P /p /b /n /k /r it started but after a bios reading it said it couldn't write the bios because it was not compatible or it cannot check something or something similar.

Svet in msi forum told me 5 min ago is not possible to go back to the .3XX bios if I have flashed with the .51X. Then that's it.

Now with the .51X the system doesn't have problems except the turbo mode off that I have to unlock with the throttlestop (bd-prochot off).

Post here photo or screenshot where you get error, when you again flash bios 30P.

Some overclocking with MSI Afterburner to 850mhz without touching voltage and throttlestop bd-prochot off 3dmark11 7665 points with the 3610QM.

I have read that the .51X is not fully compatible with the MS-1672 motherboard, which motherboard is this bios prepared for?. It is a shame that the bd-prochot was not selected in the .30P bios and selected in the .51X. Then it is always necessary to run throttlestop to disable it.

Yes, I have the battery installed but the battery didn't fix my fps loss. Throttlestop fixed it.

But as I said with the .30P bios the throttlestop was not necessary. The EC Firmware? or the SCM? turbo mode worked and my fps in batman arkham city were high. After the .51X flashing the fps felt down.

As you read first I thought it was my windows 8.1 installation, after the reinstall in uefi mode I was having the same problems. Doing a lot of tests to find the problem. Checking the physx settings, reinstalling etc. The fps were near 37-40 but not stable with highest 60 fps and fallings to very low 10-15fps. It was not working like before the bios flashing.

After disabling BD-prochot I recovered all the fps in batman arkham city ultra settings, all dx11 active high and dx11 tress, physx high and FSAA high filter. It was the cpu that was not working with the .51X bios like it was working with the .30P

I found it and testing

da**!!!!!! does the .51X activate bd prochot that was not active in the .30P bios? only disabling it and without overclocking it returned to the fps I had with the .30P

No, give me the links and I will try with throttlestop.

But as I said before with the .30p worked a lot better.

When I installed a GTX780M in a GT60 0NC few months ago, the Turbo button did not work. this is normal.

As for the performance, you've already tested with ThrottleStop and disabled "BD PROCHOT" option ?

Hi

After some tests I have this facts.

I tried SCM for gt70-0nc from your link (not the gt70 2od) and it is the same. You said the turbo doesn't work. I push the button, I see the turbo icon in the screen but after 5 seconds it disconnects and I can see the turned off icon too.

I wanted to see if it is a batman arkham city related problem and......perhaps it is, but I am sure the card worked a lot better with the .30P bios and win 7 ecm (with windows 8.1 installed). I installed 3dmark 11 demo from steam, enough to make some tests. the system is between 7085 points and 6800-6900, then perhaps it is not working underperformance.

But as I said I remember my batman arkham city with all ultra, gpu physx high and only FSAA high (not MSAA or harder filters), vsync off, with 60-70 media fps and 111 high. Now it can't go up 60-65 high, around 40 med and 10-20 fps low.

Perhaps it is gpu physx that doesn't work as good as with the .30p bios because if I disconnect physx returns to 70 fps and 100 high fps

@jegarfor Try this: http://download.msi.com/uti_exe/scm_w8_13.014.06109.zip this is from the GT70 2OD. And this is for your GT70 0NC: http://download.msi.com/uti_exe/SCM_w8_10_013_03016.zip. Normaly must the SCM for the GT70 2OD also work with the 0NC.

you are the first one, that have problems with the 51x Bios. Unfortunately I do not know why your GTX780M is now so slow. Which vBIOS do you have now on your Card ?

@omega939 Please do not spam the thread with something to this because it has no place here now. Thank you

I installed the upper scm in the gt70-0nc support webpage.

http://download.msi.com/uti_exe/scm_10.013.06287.zip

But,why my 780m runs like a 670m-660m? I have lost a lot of Power. No battery boost? It is not problem of temperatures or frequencies. I have checked them to see that the 780M is near 850mhz or more and temp less than 65º. Cpu has good temperatures too.

With the .30P bios, stock vbios and the 780M I got 111 max fps and 70 media in batman arkham city all ultra, physx high and only fsaa high (not a more stress filter).

now my 780M works like a 670M with the .51X bios, or is it not that? I don't know what to do to make the vga card work as normally did.

After reinstalling windows 8.1 in uefi mode no luck.turbo does not activate. Is problem of the scm software? Which version must I install?

So far, the 51x Bios including T18 (GT60) has or T24 (GT70) EC made no firmware problems. Please check the bios settings. Windows 8.1 you should also reinstall, but in UEFI mode. With the original MSI VBIOS there are no problems with UEFI. The OC VBIOS can in some motherboard revisions freezes @ post screen when UEFI is enabled.

I flashed my backup stock vbios to the 780M. I don't want to have problems again. If I try to make a little overclock to the 780M I think it is safer to do it editing the stock rom with little changes with the Svet's editor or the Techinferno editor. Is it safer to upload the stock vbios with little changes? I supose it is

If you say the T24 is the last ECM firmware I think the best to do is reinstall Windows 8.1 in uefi mode as you said. Because now if I select UEFI mode in the bios the system doesn't boot to the win 8.1 raid, it returns to the bios after a reset.

And about the impossibility of flashing again the laptop bios, is this blocked by the .51X? it was strange to me because I couldn't do a downgrade to the .30P bios that worked perfect with the stock 780M vbios and the windows 7 ECM firmware.

cheers.

Jesús

After the flashing with the x51 I have some problems. Boot, Windows 8.1 in the raid system and all seems to work fine BUT....

I did a test with Batman Arkham City and with the same configuration as before I had all the problems I got 30-40fps less than with the .30P bios. Also I tried to flash again the .30P bios to test and in dos mode the program doesn't let me downgrade the bios version.

Is this some kind of problem? Must I reinstall windows 8.1 because the .51x bios and the legacy option change some configuration and make the system go less powerful?

I think that the power boost/hybrid boost is not working now. any idea? Now I am not with the laptop. I will check if the battery is not fit in place but if it could be something else please tell me.

As I said the games don't play as fast as before.....

This is my card

http://www.cityofdreamsweb.com/670M/IMAG0014.jpg

These things indicate an MSI card.

- The vBIOS Version was 80.04.97.00.04

- the Card was green

- under the DIE was die MSI identifier MS-1W0C1 (for GTX780M) (not all MSI Cards has an identifier, so like my GTX770M... this Card came from a GT70 2OC)

- no SLI Connector on the Card

- no X-Bracket behind the Card

It is suposed to be an MSI card. It cames with the 93kb rom that was in TechPowerUp vbios database.

I know it because I did the vbios backup and it was 93kb, the same as the msi one in techpowerup.

then, if I want to modify voltage, clocks, etc, must I use one editor like the one in techinferno or the one from svet? Because I have seen that the custom is not recognized by nvidia drivers.

Have you got an original MSI card? For only works perfectly with the MSI GT70. All other cards require a customized VBIOS and modified drivers.

thanks a lot . The 51x in legacy raid mode worked and let me boot to make changes with the 780M pci enabled. The custom bios of techpowerup for the 780M is NOT COMPATIBLE with MSI. Not recognized with nvidia drivers. But because I reflashed my 780 rom backup all was back to normal. I think I will try vbios editors to make small changes to the vbios and not custom roms.

thank you so much. hope to run my 780M again. I though I have broken the vbios but the process was perfect and I didn't know where was the problem.

I flashed with the 30P bios because it was compatible with the 780M. It worked until I flashed the vbios with the techinferno 780 OC vbios.

Then I cannot enter the bios and the computer freezes. I don't have access to the boot or the bios. It only boots if I pick up the 780M out of the laptop.

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and the ECM must be flashed to the 51X version too? In this rar the ECM is version T24 (not 51X). I don't know if it is for backlight keyboard computers.....

But my laptod is a windows 7 manufactured, will I crash my laptop bios if I update it with a windows 8 bios like the 51x?

Can you enter the Bios yet ?

with the old Bios will the GTX780M with OC vBIOS not boot in UEFI Mode, you must change it to Legacy Mode. When you don´t can enter the Bios make a Hardreset by removing the bios battery. If that does not work, you develop the graphic card and boot up with the HD4000. Then you missed your motherboard first the following bios, then the GTX780M should run smoothly in old GT70 0NC.

which solution? the only solution that I have read is to buy and change the vbios chip unsoldering the chip and soldering the new one...... Unfortunately I have to pay for it because I don't have equipment and I don't know how to do it. the good thing is that I have found one to do it and I think it won't be very expensive at least

Hi

I have seen that the 780M oc vbios from techinferno doesn't have the same size of my backup rom. I don't know why a "compatible" bios with Clevo, MSI, Dell has 150kb aprox and my backup rom 93kb.

There is the failure, is it really a 780M bios? Now I supose I have to pay for a new bios chip and pay to change it.......

I had the same problem. Don't know why because I used the 780M unlocked bios from this forum and there was no errors.

now the laptop freezes in the first boot screen unable to choose any key (del, f11 to bot from usb and reflash, etc)

the replacement bios, did it work for you?

cheers

OK, i'll search a heat gun

Thanks for the help

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Hi

I wanted to try the kepler unlocked bios for the 780M that we can find in this forum.

I used nvflash -b to backup my rom, after nvfash -6 to flash the unlocked rom. All was correct but when I reboot the laptop it keeps in the first splash bios screen. press F11 to boot menu, press del to go into bios.....

I need help soon, don't know what to do and I don't know how this happened and why I can't go into a boot dos usb at least to flash again the vga card with the stock rom.

:miserable: as I said shit happens.

Help please

After upgrading the vbios of my 780M in my MSI GT70-0nc with this kepler 780MOC my laptop freezes in the boot. I see the press F11 boot menu and Del to enter bios but nothing works.

I would like at least to run in dos mode to upload the backup 780m bios rom but I can't!!!!!

thanks in advance, I don't know what to do.

d4nger which laptop do you have? I have a MSI GT70 and I want to know if you flashed a MSI 780M. how did you flash it? I want to know the program to do it (through DOS usb I supose) and the commands to do it safe. Also to backup my previous bios before flashing.

if somebody can help me and has a MSI GT60/GT70 and did it you are welcome to help me.

so a few days ago i flashed my both 780's and its amazin! i also changed the thermalpaste from the gpu's and cpu to coolaboratory liquid ultra.

my cards running fine with 1075mhz core / 3000mhz mem (6000effective) @ +75mv. temperatures hanging arround 81°C while playing Crysis 3 Ultra Settings and 2xMSAA and i got ~65 fps avg.

i also overclocked my 4700mq to 103.5 BCLK to reach 3720mhz on the first core. all cores active it runs on 3515mhz always and temperatures are ~68-70°C an full load. (:

First step done. Downgraded BIOS to 30P. Laptop working normally and waiting to receive the shipped card.....

Then the only one that I can use is this one according to the description because mine is a win 7 model E1762IMS.30P - original MSI bios (beta) for Win 7 model GT70 (MS-1762), special revision

Because x71 MS-1762 raid is for win 8

QUOTE=Klem;109837]E1762IMS.51X - latest original MSI bios (beta) for Win 8 model GT70 (MS-1762) with AHCI configuration

E1762IMS.71X - latest original MSI bios (beta) for Win 8 model GT70 (MS-1762) with RAID configuration

E16F3IMS.51X - latest original MSI bios (beta) for Win 8 model GT60 (MS-16F3) with AHCI configuration

E16F3IMS.71X - latest original MSI bios (beta) for Win 8 model GT60 (MS-16F3) with RAID configuration

E1762IMS.30P - original MSI bios (beta) for Win 7 model GT70 (MS-1762), special revision

E16F3IMS.30P - original MSI bios (beta) for Win 7 model GT60 (MS-16F3), special revision

All this bioses is original MSI, beta and confidential, but it stable and work with GTX 7XXM cards.

are you sure I won't crash the computer with the x71 bios? and the ECM in this zip is the correct for a win 7 manufactured gt70? or it will work the same if the ECM firmware is for win 8

also, is this an unlocked bios? And my model is MS-1762 not MS-16f3

I supose uefi to legacy must be done AFTER uploading the x71 because now I don't have unlocked bios to change it. my 30U is not unlocked and I don't have the uefi to legacy option now .

thanks again.

You can also Use the Win8 Bios, you must only change the Biossetting from UEFI to Legacy, than works Win7 perfect. in the Win8 Bios is the Default setting UEFI.

thanks, but I have the win 7 gt70. then my bios is the 30U. I supose it should work with this but I have prepared the 30P bios if finally I have to downgrade. The only thing I don't know is if the EC firmware needs to be the win 7 or it could be the win 8 because I don't know if must be the same. I mean win 7 bios + ecm win 7 or can be win 7 bios + ecm win 8

I have found one 780M with msi vbios, then I don't need to flash it. Also a neew heatsink for it not used.

Yes, you need a new heatsink for the GTX780M or any other Kepler cards. But the GTX7 ** M series only works with the latest system BIOS version including the latest EC firmware. MSI has the last version the 50X (AHCI) or 70X (Raid) published, see here: MSI Global - Computer, Laptop, Notebook, Desktop, Motherboard, Graphics and more

Whether the GTX7 ** M series work with this bios version, I can not say, but I know that you can use the 51X from GT60 Barebone and thus the GTX7 ** M series works. This version you can find in the appendix.

As a heatsink you can buy this version: MSI GT70 GT60 GT780 GT783 Replacement GPU Video Card Heatsink Nvidia 880M 780M | eBay that would be the best. In the range you still need, however, thermal pads, but since you can also use your old ones.

The graphics card I only know that the GTX7 ** M work fine. The GTX8 ** M could also work, but I do not know. The GTX9 ** M is very probably need a different heatsink, I would wait in your place, until there is some user reports, which have tested it in the old GT series. MSI itself used the card only in the GT72 series and there the GTX9 ** M series requires a different heatsink as the Kepler series.

Very important ... if you want to have no problems with any drivers or modified VBIOS versions, buy necessarily an original MSI card! These work fine when the latest system BIOS version is on the motherboard.