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I just sold off my 2570p ( sold it for about 10% in return... I got a ThinkPad T430 with everything except webcam and fingerprint.. 3320m / 8+4GB ddr3 1600 / 500gb 7200rpm, NO SSD TO INCREASE BATTERY LIFE / 9-cell 98wh battery locked at 87% max charge. It works for about 7.8 hours. stable.

Thank you for your inputs! Yes the stuff like Rapidcharge is not actually good for the cell capacity. It is only good for MARKETING PITCH. I've used / hands on these before, and It actually gets me confused on which business brand has the best laptop! ugh Dell Latitude: E6410, E6420, E6330 Lenovo ThinkPad: X200, X201, X200t, X220, X220t, X230t, T430, SL400, SL410, T400s, T410s HP elitebook: 2570p, 8440p (silly enough to not take get a feel of 2560p for $200)... Fujitsu: T900 (convertible tablet) 1. all SNB and later units lack AMBIENT LIGHT SENSOR. (maybe latest fujitsu has it but IDK) 2. DELLand HP are not good with battery cell life / charge limit management (points for LENOVO, FUJITSU) 3. All except LENOVO uses full-metal outer shell (points for DELL HP FUJITSU), and PS it is stylish too! 4. all except LENOVO have most of their laptops a bottom service fully accessible (especially for CPU Fan cleanup, points for all HP, DELL, Fujitsu, extra points for FUJITSU, HP for socketted CPU in their 12'' Ultraportable) 5. only LENOVO has the fastest driver/utility installation (System Updates). 2 Points for LENOVO.... otherwise I can use Easy Driverspack to get drivers, but OEM-specific utilities have to be downloaded one by one! Pain. 6. Points for keyboards on DELL LENOVO FUJITSU. HP's keyboard is much inferior! Small and the depth is too low. ........................actually -1 Point for HP and its thrifty-most design in fast keys (no vol +/-, only a mute key) anything else that others can think of?

Now I am in a headache. I locally picked up a T430 Thinkpad, it was only $200 USD, with a lost key ($6 on eBay ordered). still has 3 full years of warranty... i5-3320m, 8GB RAM (added another 2G stick for $7), and it now has my WD 750GB Black I bought in May 2014. (5yr Warranty)., except the lack of camera (ugh) and fingerprint (oh well), it has 9-cell battery rated at 98wh right now. obviously Thinkpad's power management is much more superior than HP Elitebook / Dell Latitude.... so I can lock my Thinkpad's battery charge to a 87% maximum.. usually it is like the battery life stays constant for each cycle. so then the competitor, or my earlier-acquired 2570P, is actually on a disadvantage... it has i7-3689Y ES, an ULV, 8GB ddr3L, and 120GB Intel SSD. Obviously I can swap the RAM and Hard drive between, but I really cannot decide now on which laptop should I bring to my classes, etc. The other one will act as a fake tower at home. 2570p's 100wh battery has degrade da** fast. It was 100wh or 98wh the first time, and I only had about less than 10 cycles, each cycle "awfully timed manually" to keep less than 90% charge, and it is still dropping. now the battery is at 90wh full... what should I do? Crying for help! and suggestions would be great!

so I had the weird 2570p, i7-3689Y ES, 8GB, 120GB Intel SSD, 9-cell battery. and then yesterday I locally picked up another laptop, it is a Thinkpad T430 for $200 USD... i5-3320M, 8GB of RAM, missing one key on keyboard, no webcam, no fingerprint...still 36 months warranty left..... crazy deal, but I don't want to waste my time and waste a ton of time to put my ULV into T430..... and I added another $15 myself to get the lost key and another 2GB RAM to make 10GB of RAM total....... and it now has my 750GB WD Black inside.......... it drove me crazy that T430 couldn't really fit the 9.5mm drive when 2570p still could.. and then T430 I can control its currently 98Wh battery to charge up to 87% only (Save long-run battery life, or the cell capacity stays about constant with that setting). The only thing I find annoying is that T430 is a tad heavier.... And then my 2570p is rugged, just as solid as T430, (actually for the metal frame I admit a bit more solid), but the battery 100wh is already down to 90wh after the last two charges, and I even manually unplug the battery when it gets up to 80% or so, (very annoying) performance wise I will bring SSD to the one that I put into backpack...I may swap a 4GB ddr3L into T430 but in reality I set them up to have minimum differences in usage. but now 2570p is only 6-8 hours per charge, after losing 10wh on the Battery cell.... So now the issue comes... Which one is the more optimum choice for my backpack? CRY CRY CRY any opinions would sound great...

so add a few things... my SSD is now INTEL 530, so it's much more energy-saving than Intel 520. performance is about par. and I do see that all the advanced saver features are not on the 2570p. A bit disappointed, and for now I'm trying to not mess with the OS after I configed for a good while. But where can I ask for refunds? Very interested....... and costs: my base unit was bought for about $340. used for about 1yr based on warranty count. I sold 3320M for about 100, bought weight saver, 3689Y ES & 9-cell battery for about $65 total. sold old SSD for the new 530 one. So it's about the same at $320 or something. expires Aug2016. One last CON on the 2570p. From industrial design standpoint, HP should be moderately ashamed of themselves by putting HDD next to the CPU/RAM slots. Not the first time I see their HDDs being cooked by high-heat CPU and RAM parts on HPs. I understand that sometimes it is a space constraint, being that this is 12in and it packs socketted CPU as others cannot. But it is just too close for HDD. If you have SSD you can pretend nothing happens, as SSD are temperature-stable. But for HDD, if it is over 40C is not a good thing. If near 50C it is hurting the drive's life actually. So if anyone has HDD + SSD, please put HDD in extension bay.

MODIFICATIONS so I got the stock 2570p as following: i5-3320m, 8GB DDR3L, Intel 520 SSD 180GB, DVDRW, Intel 6205 Wireless-N, No Battery I changed the CPU to an ULV chip, QD9R (i7-3689Y ES, BGA bridged to PGA), Intel 530 SSD 120GB, 9-Cell Battery and Weight Saver replacing DVDRW. Also installed a ExpressCard SD Reader because stock SD reader has half of the card popped out. So the modified weight is about 4.2lbs with battery. if there was a 60w adapter I think it should be quite adequate.... At near 90% Battery this unit runs at about 8-9 Hours on Battery. (probably CPU is running ~6w @ 800MHz). The only downside is I cannot do restarts with this CPU (ES issue, couldn't find a QS or Retail..) REVIEW I came straight from ThinkPads and Latitudes. E6410, X200, X200t, X220t, X230t, E6420, T400s are the units I have used that are Elitebook competitors. I have switched about 5~6 of them in the past 4 years. my first laptop is a DV2000 series which was terrible. But this time I'm not silly anymore and I'm only picking Hp's business line. Case is sturdy.Software side is really bloat-ree and easy to configure. Screen is ok but lack of ambient light really hurts me... I was looking for one with a sensor, but almost nobody has it now.... performance vs. comfort problem. Case is really easy to open up/ for installation or odification. Bads: pgdn pgup is the biggest flaw I've discovered. using Fn combo to do these two is a pain. As you may see all these lenovo/dells have dedicated keys for these. Key quality is alright. not great. Night light is a joke, because the keyboard itself doesn't reflect the lights much. ThinkLight really lids up, and some Dells have straight-up backlit keyboard. I think that completes whatever I can think of. LOL.<style type="text/css">.nobrtable br { display: none }</style><style type="text/css">.tablesmallfonts td {font-size: x-small;}</style>