Ethrem

Let me quote Orbmu2k (The VIDIA Inpsector developer) on this:

That would be my expectation as well. We are going to need a patch to those files for every driver release in the end.

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OIC, do I have to uninstall Nvidia display driver before flashing? sorry to bother you so much. Thank you in advance

That's what I did (I used DDU in safe mode) but I found out after the fact you just need to go into the control panel devices and right click disable on the 980M then flash.

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Same thing happened when I try to flash mod bios in bootable dos "No Nvidia adapter found". However, I checked my system detected the card correctly showed NV Gforce 980M.. Please advise..

It has to be done from Windows, DOS is no longer an option for flashing. Read the post where you found the vbios and follow the directions. You need a hacked nvflash, the vbios, you need to disable your 980M in the control panel device manager and then flash in an elevated command prompt (run as administrator) then reboot.

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Thank you very much for quick help and workable advised.. cheers

No problem. NVidia changed everything with Maxwell.

Please help, when I try to backup my GTX980M bios before flashing new mod vbios in dos mode from bootable USB drive, it said "no Nvidia adapter found". I was also tried to list out adapter using "nvflash --list command but turn out the same... What shall I do....Currently I own P15SM-A/SM1-A

Grab GPU-Z and do it from Windows. When you look to the right of the BIOS version, there's an icon that looks like a chip. Click that and it will save your vbios.

As for nvflash, read directions. You have to flash in Windows and there are specific instructions including a modded Windows nvflash.

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Ah so the target dropped from Kepler. Man seeing 95C was not a pleasant feeling. So glad that's gone.

I don't know why my cards are running 87C out of nowhere. Seems a bit fast for the stock thermal paste to crap out and its like 15C in the house!

Might have to do exploratory surgery if I see the cards throttle. So far they don't throttle.

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Wow so they made cooling worse.. That sucks.

And no it can definitely be changed, Prema put the lock on to avoid fried cards.

Here's from his site.

PremaMod vBIOS for MXM*GPUs!

Power throttle disabled for good

Over-voltage slider enabled (up to the maximum of 1.2v)

Activated thermal slider (to keep it cooler if desired)

Core overclock slider raise

Thermal protection @*87c (at this*point it’ll throttle in order to protect the system)

*Protection against Furmark and Kombustor GPU burnout (avoid those software even with stock vBIOS)

This vBIOS uses stock clocks and voltage and also keeps the stock Turbo functionality intact unless, You decide to overclock/overvolt.

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Thanks for the temporary fix. No doubt nVidia will block it in a future update though but I'm going to try it now on my Clevo.

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It's borderline... With the new paste job the temps are about 3-4 degree lower which is just enough so it doesn't start to throttle :-)

I' using either arctic silver or notua nt-h1.

Noctua pumps out fast which will drive temps up. It's one of the worst pastes to use in low pressure mounts like a laptop. Personally I've had the best results with Gelid GC Extreme and IC Diamond (I won't use IC Diamond anymore, it scratched my CPU so bad I thought the die had cracked) with GC Extreme performing better on the GPUs by about 2-3C than IC Diamond which already outperforms AS5 by a few degrees.

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Prema made the mod to start throttling at 87C by design to have a safe thermal limit but that sucks about the rest. I thought the GT72 was supposed to run super cool?

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Can anyone tell me the difference between Prema's BIOS and this one? My 980Ms are hitting high 80s (BIOS has hard lock at 87C so I'm not worried about that) and I am wondering if it's the vbios. I was getting 70s before. I have a P377SM-A and I see people posting issues with this machine and this BIOS so I'm unsure what to think.

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Wow Guys look what I got here:

One can have the settings desired written down in the bios an get them to work with the latest drivers (for now).

Best regards

phila

Did you mod your own vBIOS, use Prema's, or svl7s to put your values in? NVidia can not block vBIOS flashing unless they move to a secure vBIOS that requires signed vbios files. The driver reads the value from the BIOS and does as it's told. This is even more true now that the desktop and laptop drivers are identical.

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Its only a matter of time before all laptops are BGA. With the exception of Clevo and their desktop chip designs.

It's what most people want. Thin and light. They don't think about what they are giving up because they are completely uneducated about these things.

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It doesn't put any extra "strain" on the card at all. The GPU will just run at 90 to100% loud which most games make the gpu do anyway. Playing dying light the other day for 2 hours and my GPU spent most of it's time at 100% so that cannot be the reason for us not to have DSR!

Test it yourself. Make a custom resolution and fire up a game without changing any other settings. The heat will go up significantly. Or don't believe me, I don't care either way. I know I've done testing on my system and found that to be factual.

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DSR puts a huge load on the cards... That's probably why we don't have it. You can simulate your own DSR with a custom 3K resolution and suddenly your card that never passed 72C is running 87C and only 87C because that's the BIOS' programmed throttle point. It does look nice though. I think what nVidia is worried about is for the first time ever, laptops can come close to or surpass the stock desktop parts.

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Thanks for putting that to rest.

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Makes me wonder if it is indeed an engineering defect that they don't want to own up to and that we have ticking time bombs on our hands if we touch the voltage.

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Anyone else think this could cause failures when messing with voltage? The solder point is there but it has no VRM while the 970M has all 4.

http://rjtech.com/shop/images/detailed/DSC01680.jpg

Kind of worrying for me with all this sudden lock down of overclocking and such. Why would they remove a VRM?

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125W TDP on the M295X? Didn't we learn how hard it is to cool that high of a TDP with the 880s? *sigh*

And yes it's pretty much guaranteed we will need new drivers for DX12

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I'd have absolutely no problem with an eGPU if they get the same bandwidth a desktop would give it. In fact I'd prefer it. If that's their plan, I'm all for it. It would drive the price of desktop cards up though. Oh and the dual PSU solution is 330W each, I have it.

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Could very well be part of the reason but the answer I think is probably more complex than just a single point. Most likely a bunch of reasons factored into their decision ranging from OEMs not liking users holding on to systems longer (hence the sudden move away from MXM), bumpgate, cost cutting on the 980M board (though I can't imagine much savings by shaving off a single VRM), the TDP issue @Prema mentioned etc. Plus NVIDIA also knows they have the mobile market cornered so they can kinda do what they want now so why not just force people to pay more for faster refreshes? Helps relieve the R&D strains by allowing them to milk a design a lot longer than it normally would be allowed to do.

Ultimately, whatever their reason may be, it sucks for current Maxwell owners. Best way is to spread the word about this change and tell people to skip Maxwell mobile products and see what AMD's R9 300 offers (and damn do I hope it's something good). But if AMD fails to deliver, well then I recommend this:

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It most likely does indeed have to do with the OEMs wanting yearly upgrades... I mean everything is going soldered... Clevo releasing a soldered system is just blasphemous...

All they are going to do is drive everyone to alternatives. Portable desktops, full size desktops for home use and a cheap Intel laptop for travel, things like the Surface which is getting better and better with each generation, tablets, or maybe AMD will pull a rabbit out if it's hat.

As an owner of a 980M SLI machine, I'm annoyed but the cards are so strong that I can play Witcher 2 with a custom 3K resolution downsample and average 50 FPS... I've got Prema's mod vbios and I see no need to overclock although I found out that my cards do 1300MHz on stock voltage.

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we have to follow any avenue that presents to us

I agree completely but I'm wondering if there is more to the story than greed.

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I'm pissed about this move too but in the case of the 980M it may well save some cards. Anyone else notice that it's missing a VRM across the top leaving just the solder point where it would go while the 970 has all 4? I'm not an electrical engineer or anything, maybe the 3rd inductor offsets the need for that VRM but what if it doesn't? Too much voltage and boom Fermi series all over again?

http://rjtech.com/shop/images/detailed/DSC01680.jpg

Look at the top right of the card.

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I'll be amazed if MySN can get anything done. Clevo has been anti mod forever. That's why we have Prema.

Did both anyway though.

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Nvidia is lazy. It has to be something we can reverse with a mod. I'm assuming people have tried desktop drivers with a modded INF already? I have an eye infection so I can't do much right now to look into it.

Welcome back Prema... Right into the storm!