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On ‎8‎/‎31‎/‎2016 at 9:44 AM, Bloetschkopf said:

In M6800 the Card must work,than it really broken.

Here is a K4100M with international Shipping.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Hp-Nvidia-Quadro-K4100M-4GB-N15E-Q3-A2-MXM-3-0B-for-laptop-781512-001-/232061141723?hash=item3607ec02db:g:DFYAAOSw0UdXwG1v

 

Two Benchmarks from a GT70

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11264952

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11264968

Thanks....

That seems a good deal... I will check things out.

36 minutes ago, Bloetschkopf said:

Be carefull,the Card don`t must be broken.

In some Dell You also can`t use K4100M or K5100M,the M6700 is a Modell like this.

A K4000M and K5000M are works fine,but K4100M and K5100M are have Issues like Yours.

I sold around 4 Weeks ago a K4100M to a People with M6700,he also have Problems like this.

If he use HDMI or his Dockingstation the Notebook makes Blackscreens or switched of.

We change it to a K4000m and all was clear,but the Card was allready OK.

Look for a K4100M,for this Card You can get a MSI Vbios.

A K4000M or K5000M with HP Vbios should also work,but without Guarantee.

 

 

I tested my K5100M in a M6800 workstation and it had issues...

After enter in Windows while in idle it would be fine, but if i opened a 3D software i would get a bluescreen. Also if I connected the hdmi I would get issues...

This GPU in my msi would give red dots / rectangles in the screen and the driver was always stopping...

I tried HP and Clevo vBios, and also a vBios that was posted here in this forum supposedly for an MSI GT70, but i still had issues...

I tried original and overclocked vbios and always with the same issue....

In the dell workstation that I tested, the driver was the official one from Dell and i had no issues installing, because dell sells the M6800 with the K5100M. And this gpu was from one of these workstations...

I have the vbios for the MSI K4100M (and also others), so i just need to see if i can get a good deal to buy one and test in my laptop...

Thanks a Lot for The tips... I need to see what I can get...

4 minutes ago, Bloetschkopf said:

Why You wnt change a GTX 780M to K4100M?

The GTX 780M is much more faster,the K4100M is a GTX 680M.

The Clocks in the GTX  are allways higher because the Quadro must work very stable.

They are very underclocked.

The GTX 780M have 823 MHz,with MSI Afterbrner You could chnge it th 959MHz.

This is with normaly the Limit of this Card without Voltage Modding.

I work with 3D CAD sofware (Siemens NX), and working with the assemblies i have, the GTX is slow manipulating the CAD file... The Quadro GPUs, are faster for this, but i honestly dont know why...

That was the main reason that i bought a K5100M, but the guy who sold it probably new the card was already with issues and didnt told me anything....

I thought it was my laptop that didnt handle the GPU, but i tested in a Dell workstation, and it turns out that the issue is in the GPU....

And i was wondering if it would be possible to mod the GTX into a Quadro...

I already have the GTX GPU with 906 MHz (Boost with 932MHz) and the Clock Memory with 2900Mhz... With these settings its faster, but i would still need a bit more....

On ‎8‎/‎28‎/‎2016 at 11:47 AM, Bloetschkopf said:

The GTX GPU are the same as Quadro GPU,but it is not possible to Flash the Vbios from the GTX 780M to K5100M because the

ID String from Quadros are not in the Vbios.

They made it with Resitor Combination on the PCB.

You can Flash the Vbios bu Device Manager always Show K5100M and the Card don`t work.

You can use the Kepler Bios Tweaker to Change the Clockvalues to GTX 780M

Thanks for the answer...

I´ve been looking online and i saw that some guys are looking into those resistor combination you mentioned to see if they are able to change GTX into Quadro.

But for me it’s a little bit unclear, how they manage to change a GTX with 4Gb of memory into a Quadro with 8Gb of memory...

That is why I was trying to mod my GTX780M into a K4100M, because they both have the same memory...

Regarding Overclocking, could you tell me what would be the maximum clock values i could use on my GTX780M?

Would I need to change from an 180W charger into a 240W charger to hold more overclock?

I´ve looked with Kepler Bios Tweaker into my GTX 780M Bios and compared with the Quadro K4100M and even with the K5100M, and the clock values are bigger in the GTX.

But then, in the TDP and 3D Base Entry, GTX is with #6 and Quadro is with #0. In Boost entry, GTX is with #4, and Quadro is with #0.

Also, the clock voltage table has different CLK #, from Quadro to GTX...

Could anyone help me out making the overclock on my bios almost to the Max that it can handle? I didn’t want to change things and fry mi card...

Thanks

Hello guys,

I´m new on this OC things, and i have a GT70-20D with a GTX780M.

I tried to upgrade to a K5100M, but it seems that the gpu I purchased is Fu******d... and it doesn’t work.

Here are a bunch of questions that i would love to see if someone could help me out:

I was trying to overclock my GTX780M to see if i can get it similar results to the Quadro K4100M in 3D cad software, but if i compare the Bios from GTX and Quadro, the quadro values are different (quadro base and memory clock are lower than GTX).

Could anyone here try to explain me the base differences from quadro gpus to gforce gpus?

I know that quadro are for 3D software, but would it be possible to change GTX780M bios to have similar results like K4100M?

Could it be that my gpu is throttling?

I have dual monitor (lap. display + Tv Monitor), and checking with Nvidia Inspector, when i open the 3D soft and open files current clock goes from 135MHz to 849MHz, and also memory goes from 324MHz to 2497MHz, but them comes to low values again and if I start rotating the 3D files goes again to maximum, but I see that until the clock goes up the cad software doesn’t respond and I need to wait…

With Intel(R) Extreme Tuning Utility, if I do a stress test, temp in NV Inspector goes to 93°, but in Intel soft its gives me 56°...

If I overclock with NV inspector Clock+135MHz, and memory +400MHz, using the 3D soft, when manipulating the 3D file, GPU load goes to 99%-100% and temp stays in 77°-78° and it’s a bit faster than before, but i still works a bit slow in the 3D soft...

Could this be because of GPU throttling?

Does anyone have any ideas on what can I do to speed up a little bit more my gpu?

Thanks a lot for the support

My system:

MSI GT70-20D (MS-1763)

Bios: 1763IMS.71B (Unlocked Menus by me, but with no changes)

EC: 1763EMS1 Ver 5.17

i7-4700MQ @2,40GHz overclocked to 3.40GHz with Intel Extreme Tuning

Nvidia GTX 780M

32GB RAM

(Sorry for the long text)

hello guys...

So, I made several tests, and flashes, and digging, etc... And nothing…Still no way to make the K5100M working on my GT70...

Today I was able to test the K5100M in a Dell M6800, and it turns out that the card is Fu********d.....

I think that guy who sold me this already knew the issues....

Anyway, it seems that my laptop is OK, and after throwing that money to the trash, now I need to see if I can get a new card....

If anyone here has a K5100M / K4100M that wish to sell, let me know... If its a good price we can make business...

 Thanks for the time

Here is a silly question to the experts:

Is there any way that we can change the SubVendor ID from the Windows registry so that when we try to install the nvidia driver without having to modify the .inf file in the driver’s package?

I´m no expert on this, and i´m sorry if this is a dumm question...

I don't know if the driver installer reads the windows registry or if it reads any other info when we start installation....

Thanks

On ‎8‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 1:19 PM, Bloetschkopf said:

Hello

 

I think the Problem is the Dell Vbios,You can download the Zip above with the modified Vbios or You try this from HP:

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?architecture=Uploads&manufacturer=&model=Quadro+K5100M&interface=&memType=&memSize=

Hello there,

I was able to install your vBios file on my K5100M / MSI GT-70, but now the hdmi port is not working...

Anyone has any ideas on how to fix this?

I will see if installing the clevo vBios will make it work, but i would like to know if anyone has any other idea / suggestion that might help me out...

Thanks

1 hour ago, Bloetschkopf said:

Hello

 

I think the Problem is the Dell Vbios,You can download the Zip above with the modified Vbios or You try this from HP:

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?architecture=Uploads&manufacturer=&model=Quadro+K5100M&interface=&memType=&memSize=

Thanks a Lot...

I´m not able to download the files on your post. Probably because i´m a new user...

I will see if i can get them so that i can try again my vídeo card...

After i test it i will let you guys know....

Thanks

On ‎7‎/‎28‎/‎2015 at 3:34 PM, Bloetschkopf said:

Yes,iK5100M is working in GT60,Today i change the INF by myself for GT70,is the same Barebone.

Here the Vbios with MSI Subvendor ID and the INF.

Is for the Driver 353.30

K5100M.zip

nv_dispwi.zip

Hello there, I´m new on this fórum and i would like to know if you can help me out...

I have a K5100m  (from a dell laptop) and i want to use on my MSI GT70-20D.

I already tried but i had several issues because when i connect the 2nd monitor to the hdmi the computer goes crazy and stops working...

I saw your post and was wondering if you still have the vBios files you posted here...

thanks