spartan117ch

4 hours ago, Clarkent said:

Hi everyone,

 

I have got a few questions about Thunderbolt 3 and eGPU to ask you guys. 

I'm planning to buy the next MBPr 15" with a i7 quad core Skylake processor, 16Go of DDR4 RAM and an SSD PCIe. I've decided to wait until the next Pascal GPU from nVidia (Q2/Q3 2016) to make an eGPU system. But I read that Pascal GPU bandwith will be aroud 1TB/s and I was wondering if the Thunderbolt 3 speed will be enough or not ? 

 

Thank you in advance 

 

EDIT : Intresting article https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Impact-of-PCI-E-Speed-on-Gaming-Performance-518/

In my signature is a comparison.

TB3 is still enough.

I would like to try to add a Soundcard/ GPU through the M.2 pcie 3.0 x4 slot with and  PCI-E x4 Adapter too M.2. http://www.dx.com/p/m-2-ngff-to-pci-e-x4-adapter-card-green-black-360235#.VnE3wuKV49o

But the problem is i think, this slots recognize just HDD or M.2 SSD driver. 

So  is it Possible to add driver that other components can be recognized?

Yes it was this i couldn't imagine that Microsoft would change that.

But if i searched i found 1000s of other people with the problem.

Thank you

how long are u waiting for a win10 shutdown before pressing the power button? give it some time and see what happens

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i did it right now, stopped the time, 23 minutes staying in this mode like i described it. Then i manually shut off.

I got it so im gonna post my 5 cents.

P751DM

• i5-6600k
  
• GTX 970 6144MB GDDR5
  
• 8GB Ram
  
• 756GB SSD (500SSD + 256SSD)
  

Cons

- Win 7 isn't going to work on them. ACPI compliant please contact the bios vendor.

- The GameFeet programm which you can give different color to your 3 parts of the keyboard and front light, crashes randomly if i'm going to use it.

Pros

- It looks great!

- To color up your keyboard and different modes.

- Star Wars Battlefront 3 everything ultra + 120% downsampling no laggs.

- realy quiet if you just surf www

- quiet enough if i play SWBF3 with sound i don't recognise it.

Missed the post man like a Tomorrow lets have fun WIn 7 USB Boot setup prepared and rdy for take of

Win 10 will never see my SSD this is free but you pay with your data, this software don't fit to me.

*caaant waaait* i get it on monday/tuesday a P751DM. looking forward for some pictures.

I saw in the P7xxDM-G specification, USB 3.1 Gen 2 the other have USB 3.1 is there a different and either for the TB3 ?

Sorry mate, no direct links to specific shops please...

Most if not all Clevo re-seller will offer the new models. The first batch of units is already on its way...

Ups sorry, would it be allowed if we write just the shop name and notebook name without a link? I don't know a lot of shops and thought it would be a good way for price comparison.

I updated the list of shop, i couldn't find other but im still looking. For input that i can take in the list im thankful.

Nope. Thunderbolt needs chips on both ends to verify a proper legit connection. So you don't simply create an adapter that converts the Alieware connector to Thunderbolt.

That's why EXP GDC and PE4C don't(=can't) offer HDMI to Thunderbolt cables in their way cheaper adapters compared to Akitio Thunder2.

At least in the past Intel wouldn't allow such products because they have control over who is allowed to create Thunderbolt products. Maybe it will change with Thunderbolt 3 but I don't think so.

Yes this is the annoying thing on it, you need the okay from intel. But it is possible to build one, maybe as a Alienware you can take the license or maybe else EXP GDC and PE4C could go as developer.

Cant we use this Alienware amplifier in any other TB2 supported laptop?

It could be possible with and adapter, it would be easier to handle it, if just the pci-e signal is going through the propriatary port. So you "just" would need a Alienware propriatary to thunderbolt 3 adapter.

I prefer to play on a bigger screen then the 15" / 17" notebook display ;D

But what makes me wonder is when the first eGPU TB3 products are available.

It's a so called 'overdrive port' with type-C connector and can be configured to support various protocols: Incl. TB3, USB with 3.1 transfer rate, DP, PCIe, 15W power delivery etc...they key is in the BIOS.

I understand you right it comes just with 3.1 speed 10Gbit/s so it wouldnt fit to TB3 specification?

P750DM

P751DM

P770DM

P771DM

P750DM-G

P751DM-G

P770DM-G

P771DM-G

Key Features

• 
  [*=1]High performance Desktop CPU in mobile chassis.
  [*=1]Intel® XTU over-clocking technology (depends on CPU SKU)
  [*=1]Powerful NVIDIA® N16 MXM card support
  [*=1]NVIDIA® G-SYNCTM Technology
  [*=1]Full Color Keyboard with W/A/S/D gaming key
  [*=1]Sound Blaster X-Fi MB5
  [*=1]Expandable to MAX. 2 NGFF(M.2) SATA SSD or 2 PCIe Gen3x4 SSD
  [*=1]4 simultaneous display
  [*=1]3D sound technology on headphone output
  [*=1]Support Killer Double Shot Pro (Depends on WLAN)
  

I/O Ports

• 3 x USB 3.0 ports

• 1 x eSATA / USB 3.0 combo port (1 x powered USB port, AC/DC)

• 1 x USB 3.1 port

• 2 x Display port 1.2

• 1 x HDMI^TM output port (with HDCP)

• 1 x Headphone jack

• 1 x Microphone jack

• 1 x S/PDIF output jack

• 1 x Line-in jack

• 1 x RJ-45 LAN port

• 1 x DC-in jack

I saw none Thundebolt 3 just the 1 x USB 3.1 port, maybe it's a Type-C with Thunderbolt 3 support but i couldn't find a source for that but maybe you know it just let it me now.

For me the TB 3 is a must with Skylake, for the eGPU usage in the future if a GTX9x0M is at the limit.

EDIT: The Port supports various protocols TB3,PCIe etc. thank you to Prema for the answer.

So what do you think about it?

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I got it so im gonna post my 5 cents.

P751DM

• i5-6600k
  
• GTX 970 6144MB GDDR5
  
• 8GB Ram
  
• 756GB SSD (500SSD + 256SSD)
  

Cons

- Win 7 isn't going to work on them. ACPI compliant please contact the bios vendor.

- The GameFeet programm which you can give different color to your 3 parts of the keyboard and front light, crashes randomly if i'm going to use it.

Pros

- It looks great!

- To color up your keyboard and different modes.

- Star Wars Battlefront 3 everything ultra + 120% downsampling no laggs.

- realy quiet if you just surf www

- quiet enough if i play SWBF3 with sound i don't recognise it.

View image: pcie Vergl

I did a litle PCI-E (16x ,8x 4x 1x, 1.Gen 2.Gen 3.Gen) comparison.

And the conclusion is, that Thunderbolt 3 would work for a long Time, actually HighEnd graphic cards like GTX980 don't use the full bandwith.

Lets have fun with eGPUs.