Casowen

Hi all

So I just got myself a ram upgrade for the laptop which is a mech-15hs, and to my disappointment, it doesnt support XMP, but would thaiphoon burner enable that? The chips I bought are supposed to "auto-overclocked" to highest potential, but obviously it just stays stock without xmp.

These are the chips: https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX426S15IB2_16.pdf

The PNP profile is 15-17-17-35-60-467 & 2666mhz and thats the same first timings as the first xmp profile at 15-17-17, so is there any point of even getting thaiphoon burner at this point? Or would using that enable xmp and auto overclock and such? 

The CPU is an i7-7700hq, and I dont think anyone has gotten past 2666mhz with it anyway, so am I just beating a dead horse with TB? Or are my chips really that good out the box?

How much did this cost to do?

Most likely, I think its more on the oem chipset quality then the cpu.

I have it activacted in bios to allow it via control+P and Control I, But each time I do it shows thats its about to load up in the right hand corner but never does. Its not available in the F12 menu either. Any thoughts? Disable TMP maybe?

Alright, I will try this soon since it doesnt use Thaiphoon burner. I contacted them and they said it would not work because of the bios limit which they cannot do anything about. Im just kinda scared to try since ive never done this before.

I contacted thaiphoon burner, they said the software would not work because they cannot change settings that the bios has put in, so scratch that. Otherwise Im gonna try this. http://forum.techinferno.com/dell-latitude-vostro-precision/9690-14-dell-latitude-e6430-performance-upgrades-system-mods-9.html#post135616 How is this for 1866?

Alright, here are my first ram benchmark results.

What do you all think?

"I have already created the IFR txt and showed you which variable you have to change (check post #72)."

Oh, well my idea was that i create one with latest bios and there for maybe it would work with 2133 or 2400 with latest bios. So this bootx64 file can change the IFR variable? Im still looking into how to work with EFI files, or do I just replace it somewhere?

"In a FAT32 flash drive"...

Sorry now, im abit new to indepth stuff like this, how does one just do that?

There is no xmp profile on, so that should be good. Im stil not sure how to find the UEFI as the tool link is still broken, and same with the blog giving me a 503 error each time I try and down load it. Maybe your referring to thaiphoon burner? The atonus guides link for this tool(https://www.sendspace.com/file/bouk3i) is broken as well. Is the nondemo 16 dollar thaiphoon burner the key to all of this?

Alright, so Im going about this method to get to 2133 or 2400 via http://forum.techinferno.com/dell-latitude-vostro-precision/9690-14-dell-latitude-e6430-performance-upgrades-system-mods-7.html

Unless you can think of a better one. I dont want to buy thaiphoon burner if I have too, but it might be necessary. I went through all the available bios and none of them did higher than 1866, so I chose the latest one doing that speed.

Oh wow, thank you so much. I just have one question, how do I actually implement this? Im not sure how you even extracted this because the site for the donovan universal extractor is doing maintenance for however long. donovan6000's Blog: Universal IFR Extractor

Also the link to the UEFITool 0.18.8l tool is broken.

Since this is for the A17 bios, is that best since its the latest one doing 1866? Again im not sure how to implement this.

Update: Well I went through all the bios's and found that A17 was the cut off point to which 1867 would no long be supported and the next one, A19 & A21(the last one) would force it at 1600. Interestingly none of them actually did 2133, but I assume in the path we are going that that will change.

A17(current one on) Dell Latitude E6420 ATG System BIOS Driver Details | Dell US

A19 www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=V99MK

There isnt an A18 for whatever reason. I want to say that its the "1.5.33 version of the Intel PXE OROM." according to the bios "enhancement" description.

Okay, so I went through all the old bios and the highest I could get it to was 1867 at 3rd latest bios. Any thoughts?

Hello sorry for late reply, which ram stick did you need spd from. If you still are tinkering on your ram I would be glad to help.

Yes I am, but apparently I need either too use either an older bios(dell thing) or buy thaiphoon burner first. Or is there a way to do this without thaiphoon burner? Im using an i7 sandy bridge for latitude E6420, sorry about late reply.

talking about it here also

http://forum.techinferno.com/dell-latitude-vostro-precision/9690-14-dell-latitude-e6430-performance-upgrades-system-mods-7.html

http://forum.techinferno.com/general-notebook-discussions/9950-getting-new-sodimms-kingston-hyperx-2133-however-3.html

I can upload spdtool for you but it won't work for newer laptops. It will only work for GM45/PM45 and older laptops. I used an older laptop from work to make the flash. Thaiphoon Burner free version will only let you read memory SPD, not write. You need to purchase in order to enable writing. But according to @Khenglish here your RAM will work @ 2133 with an older bios (on his E6520 which is almost the same as the E6420). Have you thought to try downgrade your bios to an earlier revision? It will probably save you a lot of time.

Adding XMP profiles to your RAM (using SPDtool or ThaiphoonBurner) will only help if you can enable XMP on your E6420 (you probably can). Check here how to use the UEFI variables and extract your IFR. If you do, then you can try and set your RAM to run @1866 using UEFI Variable. If it doesn't work, you can add XMP profiles to your RAM and use UEFI variables to enable them. If you need any help feel free to ask.

EDIT:Updated my results with dual channel. An amazing ~20% improve from 1333-->1600 and ~ 15% from 1600-->1866. More

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So will STPTool work just enough to enable xmp? You said it doesnt work on older laptops, but maybe it can just do that? Alright, I will try the older bios thing first before I get to thaiphoon burner. Do I just keep downgrading till one of them works at 1866 or 2133? Im really wanting to do 2400 at something like 11-12-13-31 and I can definitively do that with my new kingston ram that apparently can even do 2666mhz, though I dont think I will do more than 2400 or 2133 for stability reasons. The link you gave seems to orientate the UEFI variables for the purpose of increasing cpu multipliers and not ram, or was there something I missed?

Dell officially doesnt do xmp, but it can be "enabled" as that post is showing. My current ceiling for the E6420 is 1600 as well, and I suppose thats really an intel/dell thing lol. Heres my ram which is unlocked as kingstons and corsairs allow.

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On an E6520 I found that earlier BIOS's would allow running up to 2133, but later versions set a limit to 1866 MHz. The E6530 has an even lower ceiling at 1600MHz. The E6520 had no support for XMP. I tried writing memory overclocks to NVRAM, but they were not accepted. Only memory underclocks would work.

Hello

I am really wanting to do this with my dell notebook the E6420. I have kingston 2133k ram so I believe this should work. Is there any particular difference between thaiphoon burner and SPDTool? The link for SPDTool's download is 404, so is there another alternative free version? Here is an image of my ram around at the bottom of page. http://forum.techinferno.com/general-notebook-discussions/9950-getting-new-sodimms-kingston-hyperx-2133-however-3.html#

Im quite sure both the bios and the computer hardware can handle it, im just not sure how to make it do it because there is nothing in the bios that allows that. Im abit new to typhoon burner if you understand, so am I right in assuming that it can overcome this? It didnt really come with a tutorial, so could I somehow use one of your flashes?

Heres a picture of it. So to get it to 2133, or 2400 I need typhoon burner? I see its not free, but there is a free version, and would that work? After that, then what? I cant change settings from in my bios, but maybe I can use one of your flashes? Not quite sure how this works.

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You would still have to find a way to get the bios to use over 1600mhz. Are there any options in your bios settings maybe allow 1866mhz as mentioned in earlier posts?

Upgraded picture, heres a closer one

Im really not sure because the bios doesnt allow any sort of changes to the ram. I suppose typhoon burner is the next step by using one of your flashes. Any idea's?

Nice result! Especially latency. Congrats! But why some strings in Aida64 are empty? And CPU clock has different value in Aida64 and CPU-Z?

Whats the big deal about removing the serial number?

Heres a picture from my drive, I think im getting hacked now or something, because the image uploader isnt working.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=ce92fb2c0f4b555!571&authkey=!AGJjMbKXo2Y6eMI&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

Yes its the 16gb kit at 2133 CL11. Im using a dell E6420, which also owns alienware, so I assume there is some capability to do 2133 or 2400? I have the second revision of this model, and heres a single rank review of the current and previous models. HyperX HX321LS11IB2K2/8 Review - HWDb

What do you recommend to get me to 2133 or 2400? Yes its a dell latitude build for reliability over performance, but maybe something like typhoon burner? Im new at this and dont want to screw up anything.

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I just made a new post showing a picture of my chips with the model number on them. This is the first revision using H5TC4G83BFR while the previous uses H5TC4G83MFR

Where you saw that I told that Ivy faster than Haswell? We speak only about the memory controler! That the memory controler in Ivy a little faster than in Haswell. Read article more attentively. Quote from article:

"....Yet we can notice that, despite Intel’s efforts, the Haswell’s memory controller is a little slower than the one we had in the previous-generation LGA1155 configurations with Ivy Bridge CPUs. The practical memory bandwidth is almost the same but the Haswell’s memory latency is 9% higher. That’s the tradeoff of the asynchronous design..."

Oh, haha, that didnt quite make sense at the time, but what does the trade off accomplish? It seems haswell is more focused on being power efficient then performance orientated from what ive heard.

Its actually Hynix H5TC4G83BFR-PDA. I just got my chips today and they are using them in the 2x8gb kit for 2133. It would be something of an interest if he got the H5TC4G83DFR, because they are just engineering samples according to hynix and mine, which I just got yesterday are H5TC4G83BFR.

https://www.skhynix.com/products/computing/computing.jsp?info.ramCategory=computing&info.ramKind=19&info.eol=NOT&posMap=computingDDR3

BTW, my computer has them downclocked to 1600mhz, what do you recommend to get them to 2400 or at least 2133 at 1.35v?

Faster? No, memory controller in Ivy Bridge a little bit faster then in Haswell.

What is the best memory for Haswell? From DDR3-1333 to DDR3-2933: performance scaling test. Page 2 - X-bit labs

How is the Ivy Faster? The after quote from Xbit labs doesnt fit in.

Where you able to determine why the g skills where faster? Im thinking of getting them, or the kingston hyperx sodimms. I dont over clock, and neither does my dell latitude, so im really wondering you input.