pogodrummer

oh damn! eh well.. thank you everyone for the nice welcoming

please let us know when you decide

Hi Podgrummer... you seem to know plenty. The fact that any member in anyforum is new means nobody know who you are until you voice a question or statement. So in short no the fact your a new member does not mean you know nothing about computers... some people have a library of knowledge here and they were new once too and no one knew that till they introduced themselves. Welcome to the forum Podgrummer, things can get a little borderline of not being conversations anymore and nearing argument since there are so many personalities in this giant world. Sometimes we all need to step back and say why make it a heated discussion and just say what we all think and reference all the facts and allow everyone to come to their own conclusions themselves. This way no one is right or wrong rather we all have our own point of views and that's what makes us human... if not we might as be thoughtless robots. So hopefully there isn't actually anymore thoughts here that people are assumed to be stupid if they are new members here or anywhere. i have great respect for every member that comes here. Sorry you felt that way. Welcome to the forum again please take this as not being directed at anyone in particular but my thoughts after reading

"And one more thing (not to you marcus, to who criticized me), does the fact that i am a new member on this forum mean i don't know anthing about computers?"

This forum is actually a friendly place and if people are out of line there will be resolution hopefully everyone is mature enough to just not have issues of immaturity. This place is a giant discussion and should stay that way. My apologies that you felt that way Podgrummer please accept, every point of view is important here.

Yes, i'm sorry, i understand that sentence was a lot too forward... i apologize, but i really didn't mean it in that tone, it was just an observation/question, not some angry hate comment

And again, sorry

That's not generally true, a CPU demanding game like GTA IV or Starcraft II will be bottlenecked by the CPU, not the video card.

With AMD pushing it's Stream technology, and Nvidia doing the same with CUDA I can't say for sure whether the future of physic calculations really lies in the CPU or GPU, we'll see, probably you're right, especially as long as CUDA and Stream are requiring different SDKs, though as AMD is making use of OpenCL it's totally possible that in the future a lot more is going to happen on the GPU.

That's a valid point, it has been shown that the difference between the 1.5GB version and 3GB version is almost negligible in most games.

This can depend on the application, in most cases a 2720QM is superior to an i5 2410m, for obvious reasons, and that's out of question. But as I already mentioned, the CPU can easily be upgraded anytime later, so if money is tight at the moment this might be a very good option for the OP.

The GPU is soldered to the mobo and can't be changed afterwards.

No, not at all. Like I said, it's out of question that an i7 is superior to an i5, but when it comes to configuring a system with a certain budget one has to consider other aspects as well, as I mentioned, the CPU can easily be upgraded anytime, for less money. Considering that most games run very well with the i5 / 555m combination it might be worth to consider this when money is tight.

Yes of course, i replied because the OP was deciding between the i7 and the 3gb 555m, so i thought he had that 100$ to spend on something, and the i7 seemed more reasonable to me , if you know what i mean

Of course the first bottleneck will be the gpu, but have you read my post?

In the future games will go for interactive environments, physics and small details current games don't have, and that things will not be calculated by the gpu (you see, almost no one is using physx and any other hardware specific middleware), but by the cpu.

The GPU of the 555m won't even come close to calculating in real time all that gig and a half, let alone 3gb... unless of course you are planning to plug your m14x into a 30in monitor, which to me is kind of pointless. At that resolution (900p) you just don't need that much memory!

And yes, the i5 runs at 300mhz more than the i7, so what? The bigger cache in the i7 helps speed up things, and you have got two whole cores more.

What i'm trying to tell you is that while a 3gb 555m is completely futile, a quad core i7 instead of a dual i5 could have some improvements, especially in multithreaded applications.

And one more thing (not to you marcus, to who criticized me), does the fact that i am a new member on this forum mean i don't know anthing about computers?

no, no, no... why getting an i5?

Think about it, people need 3gb gtx580s for triple 2560x1600 monitor setups, so that 3gb 555m is not going to do you any good, especially because it has a lower memory frequency than its 1.5gb counterpart.

while you won't be able to upgrade the gpu, future games will run on it just fine, until the GPU itself (the processing unit, not the gfx card) will be a bottleneck, not the memory.

However having a quad core cpu will help, as programs and games are still being optimized to multithreading, and as time will pass, games will use all of your cores, for physics processing, better ai...

I strongly suggest getting the i7 instead of the 3gb gfx, because it is a more futureproof setup.

i registered here only to tell you this