Mickyd1234 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 so i would need to turn it off enforcement > install drivers > turn on enforcement?still trying to wrap my head around it and what the "bcdedit /set {current} testsigning yes" command does and whether it needs to be done in the normal run time or in safe mode.I've never used win8 so I'm not a great source of info. I'm assuming that 8.1 added in the ability to get to this setting in the interface. Originally the only way was a low-level command issued directly at a command prompt (There is a hot-key I believe in win 8 to bring this up..).So, I'm guessing you no longer need it but J95 or someone else can confirm that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegh0sts Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I've never used win8 so I'm not a great source of info. I'm assuming that 8.1 added in the ability to get to this setting in the interface. Originally the only way was a low-level command issued directly at a command prompt (There is a hot-key I believe in win 8 to bring this up..).So, I'm guessing you no longer need it but J95 or someone else can confirm that. billyxq told me that's what they did when installing their 980M. they said 1.) boot into safe mode, remove ALL nvidia drivers with DDU, choose shutdown option2.) Unplug PSU/ battery, do 30 second power drain, apply paster, install GPU 3.) boot into windows, alt + x input this command: bcdedit /set {current} testsigning yes 4.) windows button + c -> setting-> change windows setting ->update and recovery->recovery -> advance startup 5.) choose disable driver signature enforcement 6.) Install drivers and u're done and in dedicated mode too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 make sure the intel gpu isn't disabled first....just to be sure! I'm in optimus mode if I disable igpu my computer won't work. ? I haven't installed any drivers for gpu since I installed it. I guess I will tackle that next . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegh0sts Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I'm in optimus mode if I disable igpu my computer won't work. ?I haven't installed any drivers for gpu since I installed it. I guess I will tackle that next .just being sure so go and install the drivers for the 980m! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyd1234 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 billyxq told me that's what they did when installing their 980M. they saidand in dedicated mode too.Seems like duplication to me, no wonder your confused. You turn on testsigning at the start and then turn it off in the interface? Strange. Surely a typo but I'd have to play with it and see just what is needed!As I've said in other threads, if you have an nvidia driver installed you probably do not even need to use DDU, I didn't (for many NV card swaps) and not had any issues. The 9xx cards are at the best finicky so all bets are off IMO.- - - Updated - - -I'm in optimus mode if I disable igpu my computer won't work. ?I haven't installed any drivers for gpu since I installed it. I guess I will tackle that next .That should clear up any anomolies. From what I have read so far you cannot disable the iGPU in the BIOS without having boot problems, but the FN-Fkey function is said to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegh0sts Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Seems like duplication to me, no wonder your confused. You turn on testsigning at the start and then turn it off in the interface? Strange. Surely a typo but I'd have to play with it and see just what is needed!As I've said in other threads, if you have an nvidia driver installed you probably do not even need to use DDU, I didn't (for many NV card swaps) and not had any issues. The 9xx cards are at the best finicky so all bets are off IMO.thanks for clarifying Mickyd1234. so i...1) uninstall the old nvidia drivers 2) reboot into safe mode3) clear out with DDU4) reboot to disable driver signing enforcement5) install drivers6) reboot to enable driver signing enforcement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Next question is Wich driver do I install. Just the most stable and working at this point in time would be fine. Does someone have one that is already modded for the 17 with 980 that I can just download and install. Do I need to make one or mod an inf. Whatever that is .?. Or can I just go to nvidia site and download latest driver for 980m and install. I'm confused . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyd1234 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 thanks for clarifying Mickyd1234. so i...1) uninstall the old nvidia drivers 2) reboot into safe mode3) clear out with DDU4) reboot to disable driver signing enforcement5) install drivers6) reboot to enable driver signing enforcementThat should be good but personally I'd start at 4. If your driver will not install, stripping out the existing can cause more problems.Just remember I have not tried a 980 so I can only say what I have read along with my own theories. You might even find the existing driver works perfectly, mine did on the 680m! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Should I install g force experience or not. The only thing I ever used it for before updating my gpu drivers an that was it.? Sorry for all the questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegh0sts Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 That should be good but personally I'd start at 4. If your driver will not install, stripping out the existing can cause more problems.Just remember I have not tried a 980 so I can only say what I have read along with my own theories. You might even find the existing driver works perfectly, mine did on the 680m! so my assumption is driver signing enforcement is something i can turn off/on when i need to? 1) reboot to disable driver signing enforcement 2) uninstall the old nvidia drivers 3)reboot into safe mode 4) clear out with DDU and reboot 5) install new drivers 6) reboot to enable driver signing enforcement Next question is Wich driver do I install. Just the most stable and working at this point in time would be fine. Does someone have one that is already modded for the 17 with 980 that I can just download and install. Do I need to make one or mod an inf. Whatever that is .?. Or can I just go to nvidia site and download latest driver for 980m and install. I'm confused . cloudfire says that the 347.25 drivers are working without modding but still needs to be proved first EDIT: looks like he confirmed it - http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/769766-geforce-347-25-driver-released-whql-8.html#post9903054 also, anyone with 8.1 and UEFI can confirm if using the F8 to get the safe mode boot menu works that would be great Should I install g force experience or not. The only thing I ever used it for before updating my gpu drivers an that was it.? Sorry for all the questions. i don't think it makes a difference really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 First-ever AW17 3D & M17x R3/R4 3D boot using IGP...Problem is it works only under true UEFI, vbios flashing... @svl7 If you look carefully you'll see another.......... [ATTACH=CONFIG]13755[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]13735[/ATTACH] So, finally got some time. Just got my AW17 back together and running. I can do that as well: But how is that going to help? The active display is still the discrete graphics and not the Intel HD. How is this useful? I must be missing something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hi svl7. I installed 980m in my 17 with 60hz screen in optimus with windows 7 and under device manager there is intel hd graphics and standard VGA graphics adapter. Could you tell what driver to install for gpu to make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl7 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Any Nvidia driver with 980m support, but you'll need to modify the .inf file.Check this thread from @J95. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Any Nvidia driver with 980m support, but you'll need to modify the .inf file.Check this thread from @J95.Thanks. Could you name the thread for me because there is no link.so I know we're to look thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegh0sts Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Thanks. Could you name the thread for me because there is no link.so I know we're to look thanksThere's a specific post in this thread.http://forum.techinferno.com/alienware/8113-going-test-clevo-980m-alienware-m17x-r4-m18x-r2-aw17-98.html#post118582I bookmarked this cos i know i will need it too! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I got it thanks svl7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegh0sts Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I got it thanks svl7how's it going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 how's it going?Most the threads about InstallingDrivers are way over my head. I'm just going to have to read more and try and figure it out .most are for Windows 8. Unless someone wants to walk me through it it's not going to happen any time soon. I'll just keep reading up on it.I'm so close yet so far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenam Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I am planning on buying R5 and installing 980m. Does anyone know which of those two heatsinks is correct for m17x R5 + 980m ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegh0sts Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I am planning on buying R5 and installing 980m.Does anyone know which of those two heatsinks is correct for m17x R5 + 980m ?[ATTACH=CONFIG]13773[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]13774[/ATTACH]3-pipe heatsink is the standard.Most the threads about InstallingDrivers are way over my head. I'm just going to have to read more and try and figure it out .most are for Windows 8. Unless someone wants to walk me through it it's not going to happen any time soon. I'll just keep reading up on it.I'm so close yet so far away.just do the following from the post i linked earlier:Extract driver w/ 7-Zip/winrarExtracted driver folder "34x.xx-notebook-win8-win7-64bit-international-whql" -> copy NVWMI folder.Display.Driver folder -> copy/overwrite nvcv.inf(NV drivers v344.91) or nvcvi.inf (NV drivers v347.09, v344.80, v344.75) nvcvui.inf/v347.12.Extracted driver folder -> run setup.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenam Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 3-pipe heatsink is the standard. in this upgrade movie - he has 2-pipe heatsink ... which confuses me might both be ok ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegh0sts Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 in this upgrade movie - he has 2-pipe heatsink ... which confuses me might both be ok ? Player2 has a 2-pipe heatsink though a 3-pipe is preferable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 in this upgrade movie - he has 2-pipe heatsink ... which confuses me might both be ok ? I used 2pipe on my 17 with 780M with overclock without issue and I currently have the my 2 pipe on my 980m and it fits fine. 980m should run cooler than 780m so you should be fine with either one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 So, finally got some time. Just got my AW17 back together and running. I can do that as well:[ATTACH=CONFIG]13770[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]13771[/ATTACH] But how is that going to help? The active display is still the discrete graphics and not the Intel HD. How is this useful? I must be missing something. The idea was to force 980m to boot w/ legacy option 'nvflash', once I load legacy it starts beeping...bios reset, just one of those useless moments... - - - Updated - - - @Player2 Win7 980M/970M Driver Installation Run DDU/Safe mode -> Clean and Restart Download GeForce 344.91 OEM Extract driver w/ 7-Zip -> Extract to "344.91-notebook-win8-win7-64bit-international" -> Display.Driver folder -> copy/overwrite nvcv.inf (unzip) nvcv.inf_v344.91 Extracted driver package -> run setup.exe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegh0sts Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 @J95 when you get the chance try out the 347.25 drivers and see whether they need to be modded or can be installed as is. We already know the oc for 900M cards don't work and that's ok I am interested in the stock performance at this time. i can wait until you have gathered enough info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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