Bios Modder Klem Posted February 26, 2014 Bios Modder Share Posted February 26, 2014 J95 "Stolichnaya...? I prefer Polish fist half, clocks and timings fully programmable." You mistake. You dont understand, i and Khenglish speak about Samsung modules! Of course Corsair`s SPD all programable, but Samsung after 2011 year not. And not only Samsung, but and Hynix, Nanya and some others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Stolichnaya...? I prefer Polish fist half, clocks and timings fully programmable. You mistake. You dont understand, i and Khenglish speak about Samsung modules! Of course Corsair`s SPD all programable, but Samsung after 2011 year not. And not only Samsung, but and Hynix, Nanya and some others. Yeah, I was talking about Corsair/Samsung chips... Mistakes: "Samsung K4B2G0846D HYK0. It is the best chips in the world!" wrong, K4B4G0446Q-HCMA K4B2G0846D-HCMA. "K4B4G0846Q HYK0. In laptops max for this chips 2133 MHz with timings 10-11-11-27" wrong again. "2133 10-10-10-27 (all other timings is stock) 32GB (4x8GB) CR1, but it not stable" wrong, you need to adjust CR1 and set 2 DIMMs per channel with Thaiphoon burner. "Of course Corsair`s SPD all programable, but Samsung after 2011 year not. And not only Samsung, but and Hynix, Nanya and some others" 2008 Samsung RAM modules were already write protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 QuoteWhat are all of your BIOS timings for the second screen shot? My system will not function with 10-10-10-27 @ 2133. Please post them and I will attempt it again. Are these manual timing settings or an XMP profile, as the XMP profile J95 provided to me works, but downclocks to 2000 and the performance is not good enough at the slower clock speed.It could be the Haswell memory controller is why it works for you... may explain why it does not work with Ivy Bridge.- - - Updated - - -How is this done? I don't see BIOS settings for it. Is it something you change in the SPD with Thaiphoon Burner?Here is what Thaiphoon Burner is reporting from my SPD: Spoiler Manufacturing Description Module Manufacturer: Corsair SDRAM Manufacturer: Undefined Module Part Number: CMSX16GX3M2B2133C1 Module Series: Vengeance Module Manufacturing Date: Week 2D, 200D Module Manufacturing Location: Fremont, USA Module Serial Number: 00000000h Module PCB Revision: 00h SDRAM Die Revision: 00h Legitimate Architectures Fundamental Memory Type: DDR3 SDRAM Module Speed Grade: DDR3-2133 Module Type: SO-DIMM (67.60 mm) Module Capacity: 8192 MB Module Nominal Height: 29 < H <= 30 mm Module Thickness Maximum, Front: 2 < T <= 3 mm Module Thickness Maximum, Back: 2 < T <= 3 mm Reference Raw Card: B Reference Raw Card Revision: 0 Number of DIMM Ranks: 2 SDRAM Device Package: Standard Monolithic SDRAM Device Die Count: Not specified Signal Loading: Not specified Number of Column Addresses: 10 bits Number of Row Addresses: 16 bits Number of Bank Addresses: 3 bits (8 banks) SDRAM Device Width: 8 bits Programmed SDRAM Capacity: 4 Gb Calculated SDRAM Capacity: 4 Gb SDRAM Page Size: 1 KB Primary Memory Bus Width: 64 bits Memory Bus Width Extension: 0 bits Supported Voltage Levels: 1.50 V/1.35 V DRAM Timing Parameters Fine Timebase Dividend: 1 Fine Timebase Divisor: 1 Fine Timebase: 0.0010 ns Medium Timebase Dividend: 1 Medium Timebase Divisor: 8 Medium Timebase: 0.125 ns Clock Cycle Time (tCK min): 0.938 ns CAS# Latencies Supported (tCL): 6T, 7T, 8T, 9T, 10T, 11T CAS# Latency Time (tAA min): 9.375 ns RAS# to CAS# Delay Time (tRCD min): 10.250 ns Row Active to Row Active Delay (tRRD min): 6.500 ns Row Precharge Delay Time (tRP min): 10.250 ns Active to Precharge Delay Time (tRAS min): 29.000 ns Act to Act/Refresh Delay Time (tRC min): 39.325 ns Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC min): 260.750 ns Write Recovery Time (tWR min): 15.000 ns Write to Read Command Delay (tWTR min): 7.625 ns Read to Precharge Command Delay (tRTP min): 8.375 ns Four Active Windows Delay (tFAW min): 30.875 ns RZQ / 6 Drive Strength: Supported RZQ / 7 Drive Strength: Supported DLL-Off Mode Support: Supported Thermal Parameters Extended Temperature Range: 0-95 °C Extended Temperature Refresh Rate: 2X (85-95 °C) Auto Self Refresh (depending on temperature): Not supported Module Thermal Sensor: Not Incorporated On-die Thermal Sensor Readout: Not supported Partial Array Self Refresh: Supported SPD Protocol SPD Revision: 1.1 SPD Bytes Total: 256 SPD Bytes Used: 176 SPD Checksum: 37E3h (OK) CRC covers bytes: 0-116 Part number details JEDEC DIMM Label: 8GB 2R x8 PC3L-17000S-10-11-B0 Timing table Frequency tCL tRCD tRP tRAS tRC tRFC tRRD tWR tWTR tRTP 1067 MHz 11 11 11 31 42 278 7 16 9 9 1067 MHz 10 11 11 31 42 278 7 16 9 9 933 MHz 9 10 10 28 37 244 7 15 8 8 800 MHz 8 9 9 24 32 209 6 12 7 7 667 MHz 7 7 7 20 27 174 5 10 6 6 533 MHz 6 6 6 16 21 140 4 8 5 5 Your scores are better than mine, still if you want to try XMP 2000MHz 9-10-10-27 (windows, Photoshop, Premeire Pro etc. better than 2133MHz 10-11-11-31) XMP Enhancer -> Templates -> XMP templates -> Import templates from file -> set XMP_2000MHz_9_10_10_27.emp - first copy XMP profile settings 'Custom profile' then set XMP 1 (1.5V) F10 You'll be able to switch from XMP to custom/default settings when benchmarking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bios Modder Klem Posted February 26, 2014 Bios Modder Share Posted February 26, 2014 Mr. Fox 2133 10-10-10-27 (all other timings is stock), but it not stable.And of course all memory controllers in CPU is different. Ability work with high frequency and agressive timings may be very different even for two identical CPUs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I do think that Haswell in general has a better IMC that IVB too. There's no way my CPU could run my memory at the rated 1866 10-10-10 at 1.35V, but I'm assuming that G.skill did adequately test the memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bios Modder Klem Posted February 27, 2014 Bios Modder Share Posted February 27, 2014 I do think that Haswell in general has a better IMC that IVB too. There's no way my CPU could run my memory at the rated 1866 10-10-10 at 1.35V, but I'm assuming that G.skill did adequately test the memory.Whats chips use G.Skill in your memory moduls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Whats chips use G.Skill in your memory moduls?I haven't checked yet. I assumed they were the same as the 2133 11-11-11 sticks, but maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bios Modder Klem Posted February 27, 2014 Bios Modder Share Posted February 27, 2014 I haven't checked yet. I assumed they were the same as the 2133 11-11-11 sticks, but maybe not.Just check it. It is intrested, much things depended from mark of chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riri-Fifi Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Hi there,Would you by any chance have the SPD of your Kingston 2133 ram ? I'm trying to make my Gskill RAM better flashing a Kingston SPD with Thaiphoon burner.Thank you.Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 My current XMP profiles, 100% stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bios Modder Klem Posted February 28, 2014 Bios Modder Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hi there,Would you by any chance have the SPD of your Kingston 2133 ram ? I'm trying to make my Gskill RAM better flashing a Kingston SPD with Thaiphoon burner.Thank you.MarcWhats chips use G.Skill in your memory moduls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riri-Fifi Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I would like to test spd Kingston on Gskill modules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 @RiRi_Fifi So are you having troubling getting 2133 to run as well? This memory absolutely hates my channel 1 memory slots. If I use just channel 1 slots I can run 2133. Even just 1 stick in a channel 1 slot is no good, so it's not dual channel, but just channel 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bios Modder Klem Posted March 1, 2014 Bios Modder Share Posted March 1, 2014 I would like to test spd Kingston on Gskill modules [ATTACH=CONFIG]11076[/ATTACH] In this photo we can see only memory moduls, no memory chips. Lift one corner of the stickers and make a photo again. To be able to see at least one memory chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riri-Fifi Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Run 3dmark 13 Memory 1600mhz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4930K,Notebook P570WM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unityole Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Your scores are better than mine, still if you want to try XMP 2000MHz 9-10-10-27 (windows, Photoshop, Premeire Pro etc. better than 2133MHz 10-11-11-31) XMP Enhancer -> Templates -> XMP templates -> Import templates from file -> set XMP_2000MHz_9_10_10_27.emp - first copy XMP profile settings 'Custom profile' then set XMP 1 (1.5V) F10You'll be able to switch from XMP to custom/default settings when benchmarking.why is 2000mhz 9-10-10 better for windows photoshop etc than 2133mhz 10-11-11? is it on CAS alone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J95 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 why is 2000mhz 9-10-10 better for windows photoshop etc than 2133mhz 10-11-11? is it on CAS alone? Actually 9-10-9-27 and 9-10-9-28 lower latency 133MHz difference, for benchmarking set 2133MHz 10-11-11-31 (30) as default (Mr. Fox) http://forum.techinferno.com/general-notebook-discussions/6063-all-memory-not-created-equal-hyperx-2133-cl12-versus-ripjaws-2133-cl11-5.html#post85089 4x8GB XMP profiles/Thaiphoon Burner you need to adjust CR1 (1 ns) to 1.250 ns / 1.500 ns (CR2 2.000 ns) and set 2 DIMMs per channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riri-Fifi Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 hello test winsat mem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Whats chips use G.Skill in your memory moduls? The G.Skill 1866 10-10-10 8GB 1.35V sticks use these chips: G.Skill D3 512M8GE9 1347 G7280E However 1 stick just completed its 5th pass in TestMem5 at 10-11-10-27 2133... All that matters is the DIMM channel. Channel 0 can run this in either slot. The same stick I'm using now cannot boot windows at 2133 10-11-10-27 using a channel 1 slot. Gonna look through my mobo datasheet to see any reason why the channel could be inferior. The 2GB samsung sticks I have can bench at 9-10-10 2133 in dual channel, so this is weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Try to use XMP Profile 2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riri-Fifi Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 hello 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bios Modder Klem Posted March 2, 2015 Bios Modder Share Posted March 2, 2015 Has anyone tried to flash SPD chip with Taiphoon Burner on the Haswell platforms with 8 series of chipsets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casowen Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Where you able to determine why the g skills where faster? Im thinking of getting them, or the kingston hyperx sodimms. I dont over clock, and neither does my dell latitude, so im really wondering you input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw86 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Hi there,Would you by any chance have the SPD of your Kingston 2133 ram ? I'm trying to make my Gskill RAM better flashing a Kingston SPD with Thaiphoon burner.Thank you.MarcHello sorry for late reply, which ram stick did you need spd from. If you still are tinkering on your ram I would be glad to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw86 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Has anyone tried to flash SPD chip with Taiphoon Burner on the Haswell platforms with 8 series of chipsets?I was flashing on Alien 18 at one point, not sure which chipset that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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