Does Quadro K5000m support ECC? Any K5000m owner can confirm?

adcmaker · March 8, 2013

I have a dell quadro k5000m but unlike other high end quadro cards I can't find an ECC state option in nvidia control panel. I suppose k5000m should support ECC? I searched online and read nvidia's official feature list, but couldn't find an answer. Some sites say it does though.

Can any k5000m owner confirm if they can turn on/off ECC on their cards?

Thanks!

**svl7** · March 8, 2013

Yes, I think ECC should be supported with the K5000m. You can use the nvidia-smi tool to check (use -q -d ECC). Enabling and disabling it should work as well with this tool, you'll find it in the NVSMI folder in the location where your system installed the driver.

adcmaker · March 8, 2013

Yes, I think ECC should be supported with the K5000m. You can use the nvidia-smi tool to check (use -q -d ECC). Enabling and disabling it should work as well with this tool, you'll find it in the NVSMI folder in the location where your system installed the driver.

I already tried nvsmi but got the following "ECC features not supported for GPU 0000:03:00.0.". Not sure why. It's just weird. The card is otherwise perfect.

**svl7** · March 9, 2013

I can't see this feature listed on Nvidias homepage (http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/features-benifits/Quadro-mobile-features-benefits-final.pdf), but eurocom advertises it's K5000m machines as ECC capable (EUROCOM Release).

What's your vbios version?

adcmaker · March 10, 2013

I can't see this feature listed on Nvidias homepage (http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/features-benifits/Quadro-mobile-features-benefits-final.pdf), but eurocom advertises it's K5000m machines as ECC capable (EUROCOM Release).
What's your vbios version?

It's a DELL vbios ver: 80.04.33.00.35

I did a search yesterday and do see that k5000m supports ECC (see the link to the pdf file).

http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/line_card/5409_NV_ProGraphicsSolutions_LineCard_FEB13_HR.pdf

adcmaker · March 10, 2013

By the way, based on my experience with multiple different quadro cards (desktop and laptop cards), I always see meaningful output when using 'nvsmi -q' for the following, or at least for the Image Version field. I never see a quadro card that seems to have no inforom information at all.

Inforom Version

Image Version : N/A

OEM Object : N/A

ECC Object : N/A

Power Management Object : N/A

**svl7** · March 10, 2013

Okay, so it should definitely be supported then.

Regarding nvidia smi, I'd expect it to give some information as well, quadro should at least be partially supported. I assume you installed the quadro driver... so I'm running out of ideas here. This is a extra feature which at least partially justifies the price of a K5000m, so it really has to be possible to get it working.

You could try the latest Clevo vbios, it should work fine (same board etc) but sound per DP/HDMI might not work with that vbios.

adcmaker · March 10, 2013

I googled 'quadro inforom' and found an interesting pdf file.DA-00862-001_v20(1).pdf

looks like inforom is something like a separate part of the rom image, and I had a remote impression that ECC is tied with that rom. Without a good inforom, nvsmi would not report ECC support. And looks like starting from k5000m inforom becomes part of the vbios rom. Not sure if a reflash of the vbios would remove inforom too.

Anyway, I'd appreciate if a k5000m owner can try nvsmi and see if their k5000m cards have inforom info properly reported. Thanks!

**svl7** · March 10, 2013

@Prema might be able to test it, has a K5000m in his system if I remember correctly.

adcmaker · March 10, 2013

@Prema might be able to test it, has a K5000m in his system if I remember correctly.

Oh great, thanks!

March 11, 2013

Will check as soon as I can, right now my system is taken apart, ready for some surgery...

adcmaker · March 28, 2013

Prema, has your lappy recovered from the surgery?

Khenglish · March 28, 2013

Will check as soon as I can, right now my system is taken apart, ready for some surgery...

Usually when I do surgery I forget to pull the battery so heatsinks are off and the system is capable of running.

Thermal protection SHOULD save the CPU...

hrana · March 29, 2013

Same issue here... ECC not found.


==============NVSMI LOG==============

Timestamp                       : Thu Mar 28 22:21:41 2013
Driver Version                  : 310.70

Attached GPUs                   : 1
GPU 0000:01:00.0
    Product Name                : Quadro K5000M
    Display Mode                : Disabled
    Persistence Mode            : N/A
    Driver Model
        Current                 : WDDM
        Pending                 : WDDM
    Serial Number               : N/A
    GPU UUID                    : [Removed]
    VBIOS Version               : 80.04.5A.00.05
    Inforom Version
        Image Version           : N/A
        OEM Object              : N/A
        ECC Object              : N/A
        Power Management Object : N/A
    GPU Operation Mode
        Current                 : N/A
        Pending                 : N/A
    PCI
        Bus                     : 0x01
        Device                  : 0x00
        Domain                  : 0x0000
        Device Id               : 0x11BC10DE
        Bus Id                  : 0000:01:00.0
        Sub System Id           : 0x053F1028
        GPU Link Info
            PCIe Generation
                Max             : 2
                Current         : 1
            Link Width
                Max             : 16x
                Current         : 16x
    Fan Speed                   : N/A
    Performance State           : P8
    Clocks Throttle Reasons     : N/A
    Memory Usage
        Total                   : 4095 MB
        Used                    : 4067 MB
        Free                    : 28 MB
    Compute Mode                : Default
    Utilization
        Gpu                     : 1 %
        Memory                  : 0 %
    Ecc Mode
        Current                 : N/A
        Pending                 : N/A
    ECC Errors
        Volatile
            Single Bit            
                Device Memory   : N/A
                Register File   : N/A
                L1 Cache        : N/A
                L2 Cache        : N/A
                Texture Memory  : N/A
                Total           : N/A
            Double Bit            
                Device Memory   : N/A
                Register File   : N/A
                L1 Cache        : N/A
                L2 Cache        : N/A
                Texture Memory  : N/A
                Total           : N/A
        Aggregate
            Single Bit            
                Device Memory   : N/A
                Register File   : N/A
                L1 Cache        : N/A
                L2 Cache        : N/A
                Texture Memory  : N/A
                Total           : N/A
            Double Bit            
                Device Memory   : N/A
                Register File   : N/A
                L1 Cache        : N/A
                L2 Cache        : N/A
                Texture Memory  : N/A
                Total           : N/A
    Temperature
        Gpu                     : 34 C
    Power Readings
        Power Management        : N/A
        Power Draw              : N/A
        Power Limit             : N/A
        Default Power Limit     : N/A
        Min Power Limit         : N/A
        Max Power Limit         : N/A
    Clocks
        Graphics                : 324 MHz
        SM                      : 324 MHz
        Memory                  : 324 MHz
    Applications Clocks
        Graphics                : 601 MHz
        Memory                  : 1500 MHz
    Max Clocks
        Graphics                : 601 MHz
        SM                      : 601 MHz
        Memory                  : 1500 MHz
    Compute Processes
        Process ID              : 616
            Name                : Insufficient Permissions
            Used GPU Memory     : Not available in WDDM driver model
        Process ID              : 2996
            Name                : C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome SxS\Application\chrome.exe
            Used GPU Memory     : Not available in WDDM driver model
        Process ID              : 8508
            Name                : C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome SxS\Application\chrome.exe
            Used GPU Memory     : Not available in WDDM driver model

adcmaker · March 29, 2013

Is your card the original part in your system or you bought it somewhere else later on?

Same issue here... ECC not found.


==============NVSMI LOG==============

Timestamp                       : Thu Mar 28 22:21:41 2013
Driver Version                  : 310.70

Attached GPUs                   : 1
GPU 0000:01:00.0
    Product Name                : Quadro K5000M
    Display Mode                : Disabled
    Persistence Mode            : N/A
    Driver Model
        Current                 : WDDM
        Pending                 : WDDM
    Serial Number               : N/A
    GPU UUID                    : [Removed]
    VBIOS Version               : 80.04.5A.00.05
    Inforom Version
        Image Version           : N/A
        OEM Object              : N/A
        ECC Object              : N/A
        Power Management Object : N/A
    GPU Operation Mode
        Current                 : N/A
        Pending                 : N/A
    PCI
        Bus                     : 0x01
        Device                  : 0x00
        Domain                  : 0x0000
        Device Id               : 0x11BC10DE
        Bus Id                  : 0000:01:00.0
        Sub System Id           : 0x053F1028
        GPU Link Info
            PCIe Generation
                Max             : 2
                Current         : 1
            Link Width
                Max             : 16x
                Current         : 16x
    Fan Speed                   : N/A
    Performance State           : P8
    Clocks Throttle Reasons     : N/A
    Memory Usage
        Total                   : 4095 MB
        Used                    : 4067 MB
        Free                    : 28 MB
    Compute Mode                : Default
    Utilization
        Gpu                     : 1 %
        Memory                  : 0 %
    Ecc Mode
        Current                 : N/A
        Pending                 : N/A
    ECC Errors
        Volatile
            Single Bit            
                Device Memory   : N/A
                Register File   : N/A
                L1 Cache        : N/A
                L2 Cache        : N/A
                Texture Memory  : N/A
                Total           : N/A
            Double Bit            
                Device Memory   : N/A
                Register File   : N/A
                L1 Cache        : N/A
                L2 Cache        : N/A
                Texture Memory  : N/A
                Total           : N/A
        Aggregate
            Single Bit            
                Device Memory   : N/A
                Register File   : N/A
                L1 Cache        : N/A
                L2 Cache        : N/A
                Texture Memory  : N/A
                Total           : N/A
            Double Bit            
                Device Memory   : N/A
                Register File   : N/A
                L1 Cache        : N/A
                L2 Cache        : N/A
                Texture Memory  : N/A
                Total           : N/A
    Temperature
        Gpu                     : 34 C
    Power Readings
        Power Management        : N/A
        Power Draw              : N/A
        Power Limit             : N/A
        Default Power Limit     : N/A
        Min Power Limit         : N/A
        Max Power Limit         : N/A
    Clocks
        Graphics                : 324 MHz
        SM                      : 324 MHz
        Memory                  : 324 MHz
    Applications Clocks
        Graphics                : 601 MHz
        Memory                  : 1500 MHz
    Max Clocks
        Graphics                : 601 MHz
        SM                      : 601 MHz
        Memory                  : 1500 MHz
    Compute Processes
        Process ID              : 616
            Name                : Insufficient Permissions
            Used GPU Memory     : Not available in WDDM driver model
        Process ID              : 2996
            Name                : C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome SxS\Application\chrome.exe
            Used GPU Memory     : Not available in WDDM driver model
        Process ID              : 8508
            Name                : C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome SxS\Application\chrome.exe
            Used GPU Memory     : Not available in WDDM driver model

March 29, 2013

Prema, has your lappy recovered from the surgery?

Nope, it still sits here...LOL

adcmaker · April 1, 2013

Nope, it still sits here...LOL

poor lappy... @__@ haha

MitjaStachowiak · November 29, 2014

Hello,

when I try to enable ECC, I get the following message:

"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe" -e 1

ECC features not supported for GPU 0000:01:00.0.

Treating as warning and moving on.

All done.

My Laptop: Clevo P150EM, Quadro K5000M, VBIOS: 80.04.33.00.35.

I tought, this error might mean the Intel HD Graphics, because running nvidia-smi without specifying a special device-id will affect all gpus (don't know, if that means all gpus or all Nvidia gpus). But after restart, devicequery.exe still shows:

CUDA Device Query (Runtime API) version (CUDART static linking)

Detected 1 CUDA Capable device(s)

Device 0: "Quadro K5000M"

CUDA Driver Version / Runtime Version 6.5 / 6.5

CUDA Capability Major/Minor version number: 3.0

Total amount of global memory: 4096 MBytes (4294967296 bytes)

( 7) Multiprocessors, (192) CUDA Cores/MP: 1344 CUDA Cores

GPU Clock rate: 601 MHz (0.60 GHz)

Memory Clock rate: 1500 Mhz

Memory Bus Width: 256-bit

L2 Cache Size: 524288 bytes

Maximum Texture Dimension Size (x,y,z) 1D=(65536), 2D=(65536, 65536), 3D=(4096, 4096, 4096

)

Maximum Layered 1D Texture Size, (num) layers 1D=(16384), 2048 layers

Maximum Layered 2D Texture Size, (num) layers 2D=(16384, 16384), 2048 layers

Total amount of constant memory: 65536 bytes

Total amount of shared memory per block: 49152 bytes

Total number of registers available per block: 65536

Warp size: 32

Maximum number of threads per multiprocessor: 2048

Maximum number of threads per block: 1024

Max dimension size of a thread block (x,y,z): (1024, 1024, 64)

Max dimension size of a grid size (x,y,z): (2147483647, 65535, 65535)

Maximum memory pitch: 2147483647 bytes

Texture alignment: 512 bytes

Concurrent copy and kernel execution: Yes with 2 copy engine(s)

Run time limit on kernels: Yes

Integrated GPU sharing Host Memory: No

Support host page-locked memory mapping: Yes

Alignment requirement for Surfaces: Yes

Device has ECC support: Disabled

CUDA Device Driver Mode (TCC or WDDM): WDDM (Windows Display Driver Model)

Device supports Unified Addressing (UVA): Yes

Device PCI Bus ID / PCI location ID: 1 / 0

Compute Mode:

< Default (multiple host threads can use ::cudaSetDevice() with device simultaneously) >

deviceQuery, CUDA Driver = CUDART, CUDA Driver Version = 6.5, CUDA Runtime Version = 6.5, NumDevs =

1, Device0 = Quadro K5000M

Result = PASS

I think, with my current VBIOS, ECC will not work. Does anyone here get it work?

**svl7** · December 6, 2014

First of all you might should check whether the GDDR5 modules on your board do actually support ECC.

There's a setting in the firmware that enables or disables ECC by default, but that is useless if support isn't there in the first place.

MitjaStachowiak · December 8, 2014

I got the Quadro K5000, so the GDDR5 should support it... I'm not sure, which component controls the ECC. Is it the GPU it's self or the CPU?

Because I think, mobile CPUs does not support ECC (ARK | Intel® Core). I'd need an Intel Xeon CPU therefore.

**svl7** · December 8, 2014

Nothing to do with the CPU, it's the memory of the GPU. Can you check what kind of memory chips are on that card?

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