EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) So, while trying to install my new GTX 1060 card in my P170EM it seems I fucked up big time and now I'm under terrible psychological suffering... I had previously installed @Prema BIOS back in 2015 successfully. As I was having trouble installing my video card and some user pointed that it may be the BIOS, I decided to install it again, in case there were changes between then and now. Installation went normal, except that when I tried to start the system I'm stuck in the splash screen... Fans work, keyboard works (can select the option to go into the BIOS page or boot order), LEDs work (from what I understand, this means that the EC is still ok). But it won't move from the Splash screen. I tried resetting CMOS by disconnecting the CMOS battery (breaking the connector on the way, the cables came out of the connector despite me pulling carefully, the connector won't bulge, no matter how much I - gently - push it with a screwdriver) the whole night. I'm afraid of doing a BIOS recovery because I can't remember the EC of my computer (did the successful Prema Bios installation updated it to last version or not?) and am basically on the edge of tears out of desperation. u_u Of course, I don't know how to get hold of Prema, beyond posting on his blog. Can anyone offer a piece of advice? Edited April 23, 2017 by EriannMX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerate Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 First and foremost What Notebook are you using?So you can move around in bios? First thing just reset Bios to defaults in BIOs theni would check if the boot order is set correctly, check if UEFI is set or the other way around. If the BIOS is using UEFI by default und u were using a non-uefi OS then you can't boot ofc.Sefondly are USB devices attached right now?Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Scerate said: First and foremost What Notebook are you using? So you can move around in bios? First thing just reset Bios to defaults in BIOs theni would check if the boot order is set correctly, check if UEFI is set or the other way around. If the BIOS is using UEFI by default und u were using a non-uefi OS then you can't boot ofc. Sefondly are USB devices attached right now? Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Forgot to add that, it's a P170EM. Can't do any of those things. The computer is stuck in the splash screen, and not moving forward - When I press F2 it only selects the option but that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerate Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Ok, try removing your SSD(s) and Harddisk(s) from the Notebook and try again, if it gets further then, if not try removing your ram sticks, start it up once without sticks and reinstall 1 stick, with the HDDs still outside.Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, Scerate said: Ok, try removing your SSD(s) and Harddisk(s) from the Notebook and try again, if it gets further then, if not try removing your ram sticks, start it up once without sticks and reinstall 1 stick, with the HDDs still outside. Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk No changes u_u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerate Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Hmm i only know then about the hold "Fn + D" and Power on while still holding trick to force reset CMOS but i dunno if it works on the P170EM, give it a shotGesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Scerate said: Hmm i only know then about the hold "Fn + D" and Power on while still holding trick to force reset CMOS but i dunno if it works on the P170EM, give it a shot Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Computer wont turn on doing that. No changes after that u_u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerate Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Hmm well yeah then i'm out of ideas sadly. The only thing which you already mentioned is maybe reflash via Recovery method, but for me it's still weird it just hangs there at the splash screen, when starting up the notebook and the splash screen appears can you press "Tab" ? Normally text only bios should showGesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, Scerate said: Hmm well yeah then i'm out of ideas sadly. The only thing which you already mentioned is maybe reflash via Recovery method, but for me it's still weird it just hangs there at the splash screen, when starting up the notebook and the splash screen appears can you press "Tab" ? Normally text only bios should show Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Pressed Tab, changed into text bios, pressed F2, says Entering Setup. Hangs in there :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerate Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Is there maybe standing something like "Detecting USB Devices"? When in text mode?Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Scerate said: Is there maybe standing something like "Detecting USB Devices"? When in text mode? Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerate Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 As stupid as it may sound now, but are you able to pop in your old GPU? Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Scerate said: As stupid as it may sound now, but are you able to pop in your old GPU? Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk I left in Europe, as I was going to sell it. I'm currently in Mexico for 3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerate Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Hmm, so after even let it "POST" for 5-10mins it stays i guessGesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Scerate said: Hmm, so after even let it "POST" for 5-10mins it stays i guess Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Yes, I left it a couple hours on the splash screen, no changes. Edited April 23, 2017 by EriannMX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerate Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Well i'm out of clues now, seems like a weird bug, i would risk the recovery myself.Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Scerate said: Well i'm out of clues now, seems like a weird bug, i would risk the recovery myself. Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk I tried, but after the first start up (still holding Fn+B, without monitor, only LEDS), the restart sends again to the splash screen, not the recovery menu as I read it is supposed to u_u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) Prema's BIOS runs the memory at T1 instead of T2 if you have 3 or 4 memory sticks. This could cause instability, particularly if you have over 16GB of memory. If you do pull a memory stick or 2 and it should be stable. Other than that, I have only seen freezes on boot if non-usb drives are plugged into the USB ports. Ex. the laptop treats an external keyboard as a bootable device and freezes. If the above fail, Prema's v2 Bios may have problems with the 1060. Switch the 1060 out to reflash, or just pull the card and reflash with no card. If your computer is responsive at all the flash was fine. I strongly suspect you are having a compatibility issue as described above. Edited April 23, 2017 by Khenglish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Khenglish said: Prema's BIOS runs the memory at T1 instead of T2 if you have 3 or 4 memory sticks. This could cause instability, particularly if you have over 16GB of memory. If you do pull a memory stick or 2 and it should be stable. Other than that, I have only seen freezes on boot if non-usb drives are plugged into the USB ports. Ex. the laptop treats an external keyboard as a bootable device and freezes. If the above fail, Prema's v2 Bios may have problems with the 1060. Switch the 1060 out to reflash, or just pull the card and reflash with no card. If your computer is responsive at all the flash was fine. I strongly suspect you are having a compatibility issue as described above. I have only two RAM sticks equaling 16GB. How can I reflash if it gets stuck? Could you explain more in detail :)? Also wouldn't the lack of a GPU thermal signal lead to a shutdown? Edited April 23, 2017 by EriannMX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerate Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Yes it should shut down + some annoying beeping noisesGesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khenglish Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) I know BIOS has been flashed with no dGPU installed. The BIOS appears to be smart enough not to shut the system down while the BIOS is being flashed. Do you still have the dGPU you used prior to the 1060? It would be a lot less scary to flash with that installed. The card doesn't need to work, it just needs to report a temperature. Edited April 23, 2017 by Khenglish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EriannMX Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 OMG you both are geniuses. Removing the GPU for one restart cycle fixed everything. I'm writing from the affected computer now Love you 1000 times! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerate Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Good to know everything worked then, have fun with your beast :-)Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kru Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Know this thread is long time closed, but feel obliged to make one minor correction. Calling the two of you geniuses is by far an understatement... Had exactly the same problem. Was desperate and about to buy a new mobo. This fixed both my laptop and my nervous breakdown... :-) Writing from my 2012 P170EM x GTX1060, formerly known as "brick", which just had its life extended at least 2 years! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soh5757 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I know this is dead, but I wanted to ask @kru or anyone else willing to reply. Since a lot of this info is either dead or gone, I figured I'd at least ask. I got the Neptune 2 bios installed on my P170em without a problem. I also got my stock GTX 675 working with modded Nvidia drivers working. So, I wanted to take it to the next level and get a GTX1060. I was reading some guides to get an MSI GTX 1060. What MXM GPU did you end up buying for your P170em? Was it also an MSI 1060, or just any ordinary 1060 along with installing the modded Nvidia drivers? I was also using Waybackmachine to look at old and gone forms on the needed mods. Most of the photos are gone from these. But Some say to change the GPU heatsink for the 1060 from the stock one my 675 has. Is this the case you all found as well? I really appreciate you help and guidance on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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