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  1. Tech Inferno Fan July-2015>> Anybody interested in the 12.5" 2570P should also consider a 14" Dell E6430. The E6430 is the superior performance platform due to it's 900P LCD option, NVidia dGPU option, unlockable turbo bins (+400Mhz) on i7-37xxQM/i7-38xxQM CPUs and x2 2.0 eGPU capability. All with a minor size/weight penalty. See http://forum.techinferno.com/dell-la...tml#post118135 for details. Welcome to the 2570P Owner's Lounge! A place to liase with other owners and share useful tips/tricks/mods to get the most satisfying user experience from this exceptional ultraportable notebook. Release date: 22 June 2012, Model name: Inventec SIMBA, Nick name: EXtremeBook for i7-quad upgraded units A 2570P can be had for as little as US$250 on ebay-US , still with remaining 3yr global onsite warranty. A bargain when you consider it's upgraded desktop-replacement performance and durable MIL-spec build in a small 12.5" package. A features set unmatched by any other Ivy Bridge or Haswell notebook that remains undisclosed by all online reviews and even by HP. Grab one before word gets out . 2570P highlights being: socketted CPU allows a easy user upgrade up to a 45W i7-quad, doubling i5/i7 dual-core CPU performance. The result of doing so being the smallest, most powerful systems available that can function as a desktop replacement. Ultraportable competitors like a 12-14" Lenovo X230/X1C/T430s, Dell E6230/E6330, Toshiba R930/R940 or 13" Macbook Pro all have soldered dual-core i5/i7 CPUs making CPU upgrades unfeasible. Need to upsize to a larger 14" Lenovo T430/T440 or (preferrably) a Dell E6440 to get a socketted CPU. rare 5Gbps expresscard slot allows implementing a ~$160 [email protected] DIY eGPU for gaming graphics, CUDA/OpenCL processing or driving more external LCDs. optical drive can be swapped with a second 2.5" 9.5mm SATA-III 6Gbps SSD or HDD in a caddy & in a JBOD, RAID-0 (performance) or RAID-1 (redundancy) configuration. Can have up to 4TB of internal storage (2x2TB 9.5mm). Or RAID-0 2xSSDs for superfast boot-times and > 1GB/s sequential transfers. eSATAp port allows external bootable SSD/HDD to be attached using a single eSATAp cable. Ultra convenient when you consider USB-only systems like Macbooks require complicated software workarounds to get a Win7/8 disk booted off their USB ports. upgradeable wifi : can upgrade to recently-released 802.11AC standard with a Broadcom BCM4352 or Intel 7260 HMW card as explained. internal WWAN/3G capable : install a whitelisted WWAN/3G card, insert a mobile SIM and surf the internet anywhere battery options include a 31Wh 3-cell, 62Wh 6-cell (9hrs) and 100Wh 9-cell battery (15hrs) is listed by laptopmag as a top 5 HP laptop of 2013 (Dec-2013) and top 10 business notebook (Apr-2013) Comparison: http://forum.techinferno.com/what-no...html#post34610 concludes the 2570P is the best one.Comparison: 12.5" HP 820 G1 (Haswell: 4th-gen i-core) versus 2570P (Ivy Bridge: 3rd gen i-core) in spoiler: Comparison: 12.5" HP 2570P (Ivy Bridge: 3rd gen i-core) versus 2560P (Sandy Bridge: 2nd gen i-core) Example user-customized 2570P systems ordered by CPU performance User CPU clock TDP x27-TDP Storage: 9.5mm primary + ODD bay Other mods i7 quad-core equipped 2570Ps Aikimox [email protected] 45W 500GB + 1TB HDDs (1.5TB) OC ME FW, 16GB DDR3, cooling Tech Inferno Fan [email protected] 45W 22.1W 256GB S840P.SSD + ODD + 500GB eSATAp GTX770 eGPU, OC ME FW, BCM4352AC wifi, battery life tweaks, cooling Dewos i7-3840QM 2.8 45W 24.8W 128GB+128GB RAID0 SSDs GTX660 eGPU, 16GB DDR3 badbadbad i7-3840QM 2.8 45W 26.2W 500GB S840 EVO SSD + ODD 16GB DDR3L, BCM4352AC wifi invait53 i7-3840QM 2.8 45W 128GB SSD + 2TB ST HDD 16GB DDR3, WLAN-USB, BCM4352AC wifi+BT4.0 paperclip i7-3820QM 2.7 45W 22.4W 240GB Intel 530 SSD + ODD jacobsson i7-3740QM 2.7 45W 256GB+256GB RAID0 SSDs + 500GB eSATAp GTX670 eGPU, 16GB DDR3L, cooling pandaleo i7-3740QM 2.7 45W 24.5W 256GB Toshiba SSD 16GB DDR3L Uftherr i7-3720QM 2.6 45W GTX570 eGPU, 8GB DDR3, cooling hatoblue i7-3630QM 2.4 45W 23.6W GTX560Ti eGPU krazyazy i7-3632QM 2.2 35W 24.5W 256GB S840P.SSD + 500GB HDD GTX660Ti eGPU, 16GB DDR3L phillofoc i7-3632QM 2.2 35W 25.5W 128GB C400 SSD + 500GB HDD GTX650Ti eGPU, 16GB DDR3L, 7260AC wifi, battery life tweaks bjorm i7-3632QM 2.2 35W 25.7W 500GB S840 SSD + ODD GTX560TI eGPU, cooling+quiet_fan+holey_bottom i5 or i7 dual-core equipped 2570Ps rhx123 i7-3520M 2.9 35W 256GB LiteOn LCT-256M3S SSD + ODD GTX780 eGPU jot23 i5-3210M 2.5 35W 128GB C400 SSD + 640GB HDD GTX660 eGPU xuhexiffi806 i7-3689Y 1.5 13W 180GB Intel 530 SSD + weight saver 100Wh 9-cell battery, expresscard-SD reader PURPLE - highest performance AND lowest power consumption in this table RED - highest performance configuration in this table GREEN - lowest power consumption in this table x27-TDP: TDP when running at x27 reflecting overall CPU temps and efficiency as discussed Operating System, Support, Drivers, Disassembly Guide HP's 2570p Drivers Link, Manuals Link, Maintenance And Service Guide, Disassembly Guide, Media Services Link w/ videoWindows 7 OEM HP Source - For Clean Installs : includes additional HP installation contents needed for a Win7 clean install media.2560P schematic : 2570P is similiar but unfortunately no public schematic found for it as yet. This is the next best thing.HP warranty checker : useful to check a ebay secondhand unit's remaining warranty Performance upgrade: i7-quad CPU resulting in 'IVB ZBook 12' or 'EXtremeBook'Can effectively double the CPU performance going from a factory i5/i7 dual core to a i7-quad CPU. Could also be desirable if you wish to lower fan noise and temps. Running a i7-quad with max 99% CPU utilization results in noticably cooler temps than their dual-core counterparts without loss of performance, eg: cool i7-quads by bjorm's i7-3632QM or Aikimox's i7-3840QM. Note: warranty implications of a CPU upgrade - a factory-specced faster dual core up to i7-3520M 2.9 will not void warranty while a i7-quad will void the warranty if HP know about it as it wasn't offered with one. I'd keep the original CPU back and swap it back in if necessary. Upgraded 2570P i7-quad system examples are shown in the table above.NOTE: A 45W CPU can have highest multiplier limited to a 35W CPU level using Throttlestop software. That means a 45W i7-3630QM/i7-3610M (turbo=3.4/3.3Ghz) runs like a 35W i7-3632QM/i7-3612QM (turbo=3.2/3.1Ghz). Best 45W i7-quads being a i7-3630QM (x32) , i7-3720QM (x34) and i7-3740QM/3820QM (x35). There is at max 9% 4-core peformance difference between these with the higher end ones often not being able to maintain their upper multipliers as shown here. Meaning, suggest grab whichever is available and of lowest cost in your area.The 4-core TDP limit means any faster 45W CPUs do not see any gains. If need more performance and have deeper pockets then consider purchasing a 55W i7-3920XM instead. It has an additional 10W heatroom for turbo. Though it will absolutely need cooling mods to be able to accomodate at that level. <- 55W CPU is being limited to 45W on a 2570P as shown.It's possible to get and install cheaper PGA-to-BGA converted i7-quad CPUs as demonstrated by pandaleo.RECOMMENDED reading: How to choose the most efficient 45W i7-quadPerformance upgrade: external graphics (eGPU)DIY eGPU to attach a desktop videocard via the 2570P's 5Gbps expresscard slot. Provides accelerated gaming graphics, CUDA/OpenCL processing and additional HDMI/DVI outputs to drive multiple monitors. To do this most users only need to set System configuration->Device configuration expresscard slot from Generation 1 to Generation 2 as shown below:A NVidia GTX460/560/660/670 is a straight plug-n-play implementation on a 2570P when using Windows 7, though Win8.x is problematic (src: here). Win8.x users may consider doing a UEFI installation instead which resolved error12 and gave hotplug capabilities as noted here.An AMD card, GTX650, GTX750, GTX9xx or older NVidia cards require a DSDT override and (maybe) DIY eGPU Setup 1.x interposer software to eradicate error 12 that prevents their functionality. See the 2570P DSDT override details if using one of these cards.Implemented on a 2570P at x1.2Opt speed (5Gbps + compression) using a NVidia GTX670 (jacobsson), GTX660Ti (Tech Inferno Fan), GTX560Ti (bjorm), GTX660 (dewos), GTX560Ti (hatoblue), GTX650Ti (phillofoc) Above: simplified HP 2570P eGPU installation process instructions courtesy of T|U user badbadbadPerformance upgrade: storageExtra hotswappable 9.5mm (2.5") HDD/SSD added through Optical-Drive Bay (SimoxTav) or newmodeus. US$18 optical drive faceplate replacement part2570P RAID-0 SSD guide (jacobsson) - get superfast bootup and 1GB/s sequential reads by configuring two SATA-III SSDs as a RAID-0 volUS$4 eSATAp cable - connect to your SATA HDD/SSD to the 2570P's eSATAp (combo SATA+ USB 3.0) port for superfast bootable storage.FAQ about optical drive space saver: can it's faceplate be used on other ODDs/caddies? Answer: no/yes.System mod: LCD upgrade The supplied LCD is a 12.5" single-LVDS TN panel, HP P/N 685504-001 which is a AUO B125XW02 V.0 or Samsung LTN125AT02 with relatively narrow viewing angles and around 45% gamut. X220/X230 IPS LCD retrofit with wide viewing angles: failed attempts by bjorm and pandaleo due to insufficient clearancehigher-resolution panels: not possible as HP has confirmed 2570P has only single-LVDS wired per detailsSystem mods: cooling and fan quieteningRecommended reading - INFO: Tech Inferno Fan findings on improving 2570P cooling systemNotebook FanControl - easier to configure than TPFanControl. Can set 2.5% (2825 rpm)-100% (5120 rpm) manual fan control or temperature-based rules. Nice. Though because there isn't a 2570P configuration item I use a HP 8560P or ZBook 15 instead.troubadix's TPFanControl allows software fan step control though doesn't alter the cut-in RPMs which bjorm says is 3072rpmquiet_fan: 2x1N4004 diode mod (bjorm) & : reduce fan RPMs including cut-in RPMsheatsink mods: by Tech Inferno Fan's (copper-stack), Aikimox, bjorm & jacobsson's 'Anarchist' - improve heat transfer to reduce fan activity or host a 45W i7-quad comfortablybjorm's holey bottom cover mod - improve airflowSystem mod: BIOS inc WLAN/WWAN Unfortunately the 2570P bios is RSA protected. Flashing a modified BIOS that say disables the WWAN whitelist results in system failing to boot. Nobody has successfully created a modified bios. REF: bios-mods.com. WLAN/WWAN/Bluetooth whitelist : IDs of cards that the BIOS will allow boot with.Confirmed Intel 6235 working in 2570P - it's between 0.5W to 1W more efficient than the stock Intel 6205 (M3ph15t)Non-whitelisted Intel/Atheros WLAN works: Intel 1000, 5100, 6235 and Atheros AR5B91 all work as "Test WLAN" cards with BIOS F.41/F.42F.44 bios confirmed by HP to have no WLAN whitelistBIOS dumps at hpfocus.com : extensive Elitebook (inc 2570P) bios dumps. Here's the two files discussed of interest: 68ISB16.F34.rar (F.34 dump - unlock flash descriptor with WIN+[left arrow]+[right arrow] then flash using fptw64.exe utility). NbDmiFit-2.03.zip (DMIFit - initialize the computer information(S/N, P/N, etc.) Emergency recovery: if you have a flash go wronghttp://forum.techinferno.com/general...html#post26529 : Press WIN+[left arrow]+[right arrow] during poweron to unlock the flash descriptor WWANDOS - HP WWAN whitelist writing tool Tweaks: overclocking and extending battery lifeKhenglish's 2570P BCLK overclocking ME FW - allows increasing BCLK by 4.8% using XTU software, eg: i5-3360M 2.8Ghz -> 2.93GhzBattery life tweaks inc 33% longer 2570P battery life by enabling ASPMs and L0s L1 using softwareMISC infoWLAN-USB: Wiring the WLAN USB pins to the docking connector to enable WLAN Bluetooth (BCM94352AC+BT4.0) [invait53]INFO: Retrofitting webcam to non-webcam modelCorrecting Production Information Incorrect bios halt screen (eg: system board, product name, serial, SKU, family)Using a ramdisk for browser cache (phillofoc) : to extend battery lifeWWAN whitelist workaround. As a BIOS mod is not possible, enthusiastic individuals could mask then internally re-route the WWAN USB pins (36,38) to either the expresscard or docking connector USB port. Yes, soldering would be required. REF: 2560P schematic for pinouts.unbridged tracks on 2570P WWAN socket are mSATA but no BIOS support : info on how the mSATA can be enabled on the WWAN socket weight loss : how to lighten the 2570P using a weight saver instead of the optical drive, lighter AC adapter, + more.Hackintosh works on 2570P: Mac OSX Mountain Lion (10.8.5) confirmed working minus wifi on a 2570P.Hackintosh works on 2570P #2 : Newer Mavericks 10.9 working on a 2570P. HP '820 G1' backlit keyboard retrofit : unimplemented experimental howtoObtaining an expresscard blank: how to order a replacement if lost yours, getting a optical bay space saver in the processHP HS2340 WWAN module: using it on a non-HP notebookHS2340 WWAN module: fixes for dropping connections (HP forums)Systemboard photos : closeup photos by pandaleoWin7 fix for brightness hotkeys ceasing to work after sleep-resume cycle (phillofoc)Acknowledgements: a cast of many 2570P and other T|I users contributing to this thread. Thank you. 12.5" HP Elitebook 2570P review from 51nb.comTech Inferno Fan comments: Below is 51nb.com's Chinese-to-English translated 2570P review. notebookcheck have done a extensive review too. There's another English version review of the HP EliteBook 2570p posted that has some great coverage. Almighty business The HP EliteBook 2570p evaluation (source: 51nb.com)Business this traditionally has a the impertinent game video of the mainstream computing power, With the notebook full access IVB era, equipped with the latest the IVB architecture processor of Commerce this performance has been further enhanced. HP recently introduced the ProBook and EliteBook series of new business in this latest IVB platform positioning flagship model EliteBook 2570p continuation of the the HP business of the excellent design, including black TrackPoint, fingerprint reader, 180 degrees opening and closing angle, backplane Free tools demolition, today let us through a detailed evaluation of the article to understand the business of the new features under this all-around. HP EliteBook 2570p hardware configuration: Intel IVB i5 3210M processor, 4GB DDR3 1600 single-channel memory, 500GB 7200 rpm mechanical hard drive, Intel HD 4000 Core graphics, detailed parameter configuration table with reference below. Hewlett-Packard (HP) 2570p (B8Z45PA) Operating system Preloaded with Windows 7 Professional Edition Processor frequency Intel IVB i5 3210M Processor description Dual core four threads, clocked at 2.5GHz, Turbo accelerates to 3.1GHz, TDP 35W Memory descriptor 4GB DDR3 1600 Hard to describe 500GB, 7200 rpm mechanical hard Drive type DVD burner Screen description 12.5 inches, 1366x768, 16:9 dimming wide viewing angle, thin screen Graphics chip Intel GMA HD 4000 (Core Graphics) Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n (300Mbps) Refers to take keyboard Pointing stick, touchpad (multi-touch), full-size chocolate keyboard Data interface 2 USB3.0, 1 a USB2.0/eSATA dual-use interface, VGA, power, keyhole, DisplayPort, docking station port, RJ-45/RJ-11 interface, Smart Card, ExpressCard, SD card reader. Body Material Magnesium alloy Body weight Bare metal 1.96kg, travel 2.415kg Body size 300mm x 209mm x 27mm Appearance and interface: magnesium alloy body business interface● The appearance and use of materialsHigh strength material to the positioning the flagship of Commerce this will build the fuselage, the HP EliteBook 2570p body adopts high-strength magnesium alloy, with silver surface grinding process, with strong metal texture and also can effectively prevent fingerprint residue . 2570p whole shape design very low-key, nor around the rounded handle the current popular to abandon fashion elements only for the professional business. HP 2570p magnesium alloy body with a high degree of robustness Lithium battery using the HP 2570p randomly equipped the kyphosis design, this is tantamount to increase the width of the fuselage, but large-capacity lithium battery can also bring more endurance. ● Body thickness 2570p rear fuselage thickest approximately 34.25mm, and the front of the fuselage of 30.95mm, thickness or normal the Almighty business this machine who can design more expansion interface.● Extended Interface Almighty business this has a very well-equipped business interface design, the HP 2570p fuselage front end does not design any expansion interface, and most of the area of the rear fuselage, while lithium batteries occupy, but the left and right sides of the battery is still VGA, and dual USB3.0 interface. HP 2570p expansion interface design more concentrated in the fuselage left and right ends of the left side of the fuselage interface follows the power, RJ-45, RJ-11, DVD drive and Smart Card, the right side of the fuselage interface from right left turn for notebook lock the docking connector eSATA/USB2.0, DisplayPort, headphone / microphone, SD card reader and ExpressCard. View 2570p expansion interface is very well equipped, even the old RJ-11 interface has also been retained, two USB3.0 plus a USB2.0 also be able to meet the demand for the use of the most of the time, although 2570p DisplayPort interface , but the lack of a more mainstream HDMI interface looks a little regret.● portability The HP 2570p bare metal weight of 1.96kg, travel weight of 2.41kg, this weight is quite normal for a performance mainstream business of the Almighty metal.Chapter Summary: HP EliteBook 2570p on the body design is very introverted, magnesium-alloy high-strength material can effectively protect the safety of the fuselage, the surface layer of matte treatment has a good anti-fingerprint effect. More normal body thickness and portability. Interface, in addition to 2570p with HDMI outside the flagship business of the proper mainstream interface connected to the docking station can further enhance scalability.12.5-inch matte screen spill-resistant keyboard display and manipulation:● Screen HP EliteBook 2570p with a 12.5-inch LED matte screen resolution is 1366x768, 12.5-inch mainstream is also the business of the frequently used screen size, actual use, and 13-inch screen is not much difference. The matte surface is indispensable for high-end business, which can effectively prevent the glare caused by the interference of the human eye while enhancing the notebook display. The actual use of the process, a good piece of screen display, more accurate color reproduction, viewing angle of approximately 150 degrees left and right direction. HP EliteBook 2570p with alloy hinge sunken shaft the screen high fastness, 2570p screen the maximum opening angle of more than 180 degrees, which is also an important high-end business logo.● camera HP EliteBook 2570p HD Webcam settings on the screen just above the right there with a protective cover keyboard lights when not in use can be turned off the protective cover to prevent dust and moisture from entering.● control experience HP 2570p is equipped with a high-touch black chocolate spill-resistant keyboard, the key processes and key spacing design is very reasonable, prolonged beating also be able to maintain a good feeling. Although this keyboard does not have a backlight function, but by means of the camera to the right of the keyboard lights in low light conditions and accurate identification keys. This as the flagship business, let your hands do not leave the area of the keyboard to move the cursor pointing stick natural essential 2570p black the TrackPoint design in the middle of the keyboard position. 2570p touchpad uses the same metal grinding treatment, feel comfortable, precise positioning on the below the the four shortcuts resistance are very small, the key sound is also very light. Up and down two shortcuts used with the TrackPoint, the bottom two and trackpad for use with two combinations, allowing those different habits. 2570p biometric fingerprint reader design in the lower right corner of the C surface 2570p the upper right corner of the keyboard area wireless network switch, three shortcuts for fast Internet access and volume switch, the top left corner of the keyboard area is only one power switch the C surface design is also very simple.● scalability HP 2570p backplane support tool-free, only need to the bottom of the fuselage on the left of the power / the the backplane combo demolition the switch Wang Zuoce poke can free tool to tear down the backplane, this design is very humane, users either upgrade your hardware or clean-up The dust will become very convenient. HP 2570p disassemble tool-free chassis internal body details HP 2570p memory slots and hard drive slot details, including hard disk slot portion with a unique HP 3D DriveGuard protection technology, the fuselage impact on the effective protection of hard disk data. 2570p also provides mSATA interface, users can increase their own SSD to improve the overall performance. Chapter Summary: HP 2570p with a piece of business of the common 12.5-inch LED matte screen resolution mainstream 1366x768, the screen maximum opening angle of 180 degrees or more, fully meet the demand for business use, in addition with black TrackPoint and keyboard lighting, full-size chocolate spill-resistant keyboard can bring very good handling experience. Scalability using unique backplane Free tools demolition design, 2570p hardware upgrade or clean up the dust are very convenient.Hardware and performance: IVB i5 3210M with HD 4000 nuclear● Processor HP 2570p using an Intel architecture IVB i5 3210M processor, using the X86 field is currently the most advanced 22nm process technology, dual-core four threads, 6MB cache, the default clocked at 2.5GHz, Turbo Boost up to 3.1 GHz, TDP 35W.● Memory Terms of memory, 2570p using a single 2GB DDR3 1600 high-speed memory, timing 11-11-11-28, read speed 11794MB / s, write speed to 12462MB / s read and write speed or capacity can good deal with day-to-day use demand, can increase a 4GB memory 8GB dual-channel, the whole performance there will be a certain level of improvement.● wPrime wPrime is a notebook processor performance testing software, 2570p using the i5 3210M 32M and 1024M test results were 16.911 seconds and 584.833 seconds, leading the older generation i5 2430M approximately 10%.● CINEBENCH 11.5 Another common CINEBENCH 11.5 test software, the HP 2570p CPU single core performance 1.15pts, multi-core results 2.71pts previous generation i5 2430M approximately 10% ahead of the same.● Graphic Business notebook graphics capabilities are not very high, HP 2570p CPU integrated Intel HD Graphics 4000 Core graphics card, core frequency of 650MHz, memory frequency is 800MHz, and meet the business office is not a big problem.● Hard HP 2570p with a 500GB 7200 rpm Hitachi mechanical hard drive, this hard drive in HD Tune Pro test a minimum transfer speed of about 45.4MB / S, the maximum transmission speed is about 103.0MB / S, the average transfer speed of approximately 79.0 MB / S, HD Tune graph when the read test is also very stable. The 2570p Similarly with HP 3D DriveGuard hard disk protection technology, the fuselage by the impact of the big efforts to advance locked hard disk to protect data security.● PCMARK 7 In the the professional machine performance testing software PCMARK7, 2570p total score of 2819 points. Chapter Summary: HP 2570p using the latest IVB i5 3210M processor, the default 2.5GHz, 3.1GHz high frequency has a very mainstream performance Turbo 4GB DDR3 1600 memory also able to meet the complex business-use environment. 500GB 7200 RPM high-capacity mechanical hard drive with HP 3D DriveGuard hard disk protection technology, the data is very safe.Cooling capacity, endurance test, evaluation Full Summary● Heat HP 2570p using the bottom into the wind, the wind out of the right side of the fuselage cooling mode, use should pay attention to the right hand mouse and the distance of the fuselage, so as not to vent hot air right impact. 2570p Here's the specific thermal performance test. The temperature of the surface of the conventional standby fuselage C (left) and D surface (right) To use AIDA64 Let 2570p processor and graphics card to run at full capacity 30 minutes Full load for 30 minutes after the fuselage C surface temperature Surface temperature of the full load for 30 minutes after the body D We can see through the professional thermal imager: conventional standby mode (room temperature about 26 degrees) 2570p body C face maximum temperature was 34.4 degrees, the position appears in the upper left corner of the touchpad, the maximum temperature of the D surface outlet was 38.5 degrees, the position appears on the right side of the fuselage, the whole, fairly good 2570p cooling capacity in standby mode; conventional 2570p fuselage C surface temperature of 36.8 degrees after 30 minutes of full load, D surface The maximum temperature of 59.2 degrees C, the highest temperature of the surface D are located near the main outlet the HP 2570p full load cooling capacity is the same impressive.● Endurance Test HP EliteBook 2570p standard lithium battery capacity 11.1V 62Wh Screen brightness to 50% and turn on WiFi, then turn on the power-saving mode the last HP 2570p estimated 7 hours battery life under Windows 7. Evaluation Summary: HP 2570p has a very high degree of sturdy magnesium alloy body, coupled with a biometric fingerprint reader, spill-resistant keyboard 3D DriveGuard hard disk protection technology, the internal body as well as the hard drive information can be effectively protected . The opening angle of over 180 degrees screen, mainstream and complete business interface design, IVB platform performance, excellent hardware configurations make this machine demonstrated a deep skill, backplane tool-free is a big bright spot, users can easily upgrade hardware or screwdriver to clean the dust. This model priced at about 10,500 yuan, the positioning and the ThinkPad T430 is similar, if you do not intend to into the black, then this HP EliteBook 2570p is also a very good choice.
  2. I have designed an adapter for the ultrabay slot to plug desktop graphic cards into a Y510p. The BIOS starts with "Unauthorized Slave vga ...". Need help for a new BIOS without PCIe check on Ultrabay.
  3. Welcome to the E6440 Owner's Lounge! A place to share tips/tricks/mods with other owners get the most satisfying user experience from this exceptional notebook. Release date: Sep 2013 Model name: Compal LA-9931P (iGPU) or LA-9932P (HD8690M) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvbzGXOz3nU Example user-customized E6440 systems ordered by CPU performance User CPU clock TDP x27-TDP Storage: 9.5mm primary + ODD bay + mSATA Other mods komoornik i7-4940MX 3.1 57W 512GB SSD + BD-ROM FHD_LCD_retrofit, 16GB DDR3L Atonus i7-4810MQ 2.8 47W 250GB+2560B RAID0 Samsung EVO SSDs EC_retrofit, RAID unlock, 16GB DDR3L planetburns i7-4810MQ 2.8 47W 180GB SSD + ODD Tech Inferno Fan i7-4800MQ 2.7 47W 32.3 500GB SSHD + ODD EC_retrofit, GTX770 eGPU, OC_ME_FW PURPLE - highest performance AND lowest power consumption in this tableRED - highest performance configuration in this tableGREEN - lowest power consumption in this tablex27-TDP: TDP when running at x27 reflecting overall CPU temps and efficiency as discussed Operating System, Support, Drivers, Disassembly Guide Dell's E6440: Driver's link, Manuals link and Upgrade parts link. Windows 7 Dell OEM Source : Includes additional Dell installation content needed for a fully licensed Win7 clean install.Dell warranty checker: useful to check an ebay secondhand unit's remaining warranty. Ask vendor for the Support Tag.Performance upgrade: mSATA SSDYes, there is a mSATA slot in the E6440, though is not visible when taking the rear cover off. It needs the left bumper cap removed. It's situated above the WWAN marking as shown in the spoiler below. In fact, this slot is WLAN(PCIe1), mSATA (SATA3 port4) and WWAN (USB 2.0)!! Sharing the PCIe and SATA lines being a new Series-8 Flexible I/O chipset feature : http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/6882-series-8-flexible-usb3-pcie-sata-pcie-i-o-some-more-x2-2-0-possibility.html#post94382 Performance upgrade: i7-quad CPUCan effectively double the CPU performance going from a factory i5/i7 dual core to a i7-quad CPU. Note: warranty implications of a CPU upgrade - a factory-specced faster dual core up to i7-4610M will not void warranty while a i7-quad will void the warranty if Dell know about it as it wasn't offered with one. I'd keep the original CPU back and swap it back in if necessary. Upgraded E6440 i7-quad system examples are shown in the table above.One important consideration is whether to get a 37W i7-4702MQ (4-core turbo=2.9Ghz)to keep within the factory-configured CPU's TDP or get a faster and hotter 47W i7-4800QM/i7-4700MQ (4-core turbo=3.5/3.2Ghz). I'm of the opinion that the 37W one should be avoided. That's because (1) the 47W CPUs can be software limited to 37W (2) XTU/Throttlestop allows a negative offset voltage offset to be applied bringing TDP down and allowing higher multipliers to work and (3) the beefier dGPU-model heatsink that can handle the higher TDP and can be retrofitted to the iGPU-only model.The E6440 BIOS locks the TDP but allows extra turbo bins are accessible using either Throttlestop or XTU. Eg: a i7-4700MQ has +200Mhz unlocked turbo bins (max=3.4Ghz 4-core). A i7-4800MQ has +400Mhz unlocked turbo bins (max=3.9Gbz 4-core). Problem with the 47W TDP limit is it limits performance to 3.5Ghz during a TS 32M/1024M 4-core load test. That result being *after* voltage optimization in XTU/Throttlestop. Meaning then that max performance lies between a turbo unlocked i7-4700MQ (3.4Ghz) and i7-4800MQ (3.9Ghz). Eg: a i7-4710MQ (3.5Ghz 4-core) would be at max TDP limits. Though those newer CPUs are rarer and often pricer than a faster i7-4800MQ. Means then that for the majority of users, a i7-4800MQ gives an easy plug'n'play installation from which highest performance, within TDP and thermal limits, can then be extracted easily using Throttlestop or XTU.RECOMMENDED reading: 1. http://forum.techinferno.com/throttlestop-realtemp-discussion/6958-haswell-step-backwards-ivy-bridge-i-have-some-shocking-tdp-results.html#post951812. INFO: dGPU_heatsink - improve iGPU model cooling by retrofitting dGPU model heatsink+fanPerformance upgrade: external graphics (eGPU)RECOMMENDED reading: INFO: EC_retrofit - retrofitting an expresscard slot to a E6440An eGPU has been implemented on a E6440 using a NVidia GTX770 (Tech Inferno Fan), AMD R9 280X (Tech Inferno Fan).DIY eGPU: attach a desktop videocard via the E6440's 5Gbps expresscard slot. Provides accelerated gaming graphics, CUDA/OpenCL processing and additional HDMI/DVI outputs to drive multiple monitors. A NVidia or AMD card is a straight plug-n-play implementation on a E6440. The system must boot least once with the eGPU attached and detected by the BIOS. This lowers TOLUD from 3.49GB to 3.24GB, storing it in NVRAM thereafter. Both my GTX770 and R9 280x can then be allocated without any error 12. In addition, no PCI Reset Delay mechanism is unnecessary and is best to be disabled. Then the system and eGPU can support a sleep-resume cycle with eGPU activate on resume. NOTE: The A.02 BIOS handles the eGPU beautifully, running a Gen2 expresscard link. Unfortunately bios A.05 or newer sets the EC port to Gen1 speed if you hotplug the eGPU after BIOS boot (see details). Flash back to A.02 to get the faster Gen2 link speed OR disable any PCI Reset Delay mechanisms on the eGPU adapter so the BIOS sees the eGPU on boot. Note: E6440 iGPU-model can boot with powered eGPU powered plugged into EC slot. dGPU-model E6440 will not boot with powered eGPU plugged into EC slot and so requires hotplugging after boot. In case anybody is wondering, a x2 2.0 eGPU link is not electrically possible unless there is a USB3 port 4 on a docking connector so can use the http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/6882-series-8-flexible-usb3-pcie-sata-pcie-i-o-some-more-x2-2-0-possibility.html#post94382 feature. The USB 3 ports on the system are 1, 2, 3 and 6. The E6440 PCIe port layout is shown in the spoiler: If want to experiment with a x2 2.0 eGPU implementation then suggest look at a one-gen older Dell E6430. It's has two mPCIe ports (port 1 + 2) as per the E6430 schematic. System mod: LCD upgradeUpdate Feb-2015: newer E6440 has eDP rather than LVDS connected on the systemboard, with a 1920x1080 LCD option. See details. The FHD LCD retrofit parts required for the 1st E6440 series are in the spoiler: NOTE: The Intel iGPU Control panel mistakenly lists the LCD as being eDP as explained in the series-1 E6440.768P->900P is possible as a user upgrade. Required is swapping the HD 1ch LVDS cable for the 2ch LVDS HD+ and of course changing the 768P LCD for a 900P one. The two different LVDS cables available for a E6440 are: The two different LCDs being: My system came from the factory with a 900P AUO B140RTN02.2 panel with Dell p/n 0M4RTT. I find brightness and viewing angles quite satisfactory. A photo of my 900P LCD's model labelling is in the spoiler below. 1080P or higher resolution : not possible since the E6440 uses a LVDS rather than eDP internal LCD interface. The max resolution available in 14" LVDS is usually 1600x900, representing 37% more viewing area than 1366x768. Though ebay has 14" 1680x945 LVDS LCDs, giving an additional 10% more viewing area over 1600x900 or 51% over 1366x768. --> 1680x945 LCD does not fit correctly as attempted here.System mods: coolingINFO: dGPU_heatsink - improve iGPU model cooling by retrofitting dGPU model heatsink+fan. Useful if see i7-quad thermal throttling under full 4-core load. MISC infoRAID_unlock: Enabling E6440's hidden RAID BIOS options (Atonus) giving RAID-0/1 and maybe RAID-5 as discussed.Using a ramdisk for browser cache (phillofoc) : to extend battery lifeI present you a tool to decompress Dell UEFI BIOS (JimboBobB@MDL) - extract the raw E6440 BIOS file from Dell's distribution EXE. Confirmed works. A workaround to the depreciated "-writehdr" option.Modifying UEFI variables : eg: remove CPU TDP power limits, RAID/Expresscard/max TOLUD, disable dGPU Dell E6440 reviews Review Dell Latitude E6440 Notebook (notebookcheck.net)Review Dell Latitude E6440 (itfroccs.hu)Dell Latitude E6440 (youtube #1)Dell Latitude E6440 Notebook (youtube #2)
  4. In case you own a Lenovo Y410p or Y510p laptop, you might be interested in upgrading its performance by installing an external graphics card. Ultrabay eGPU adapter designed by @gerald was proven to be a convenient plug-and-play option to do exactly that. However, for a long time only an AMD-branded GPUs could be used due to limitations in the Lenovo's stock BIOS. The purpose of the modified firmware presented here is to expand the range of available GPUs by enabling Nvidia support on Gerald's Ultrabay eGPU adapter. Huge thanks to: @MWichni - For efficiently assisting me during the development of this mod. By flashing dozens of BIOS builds over the course of several weeks and thoroughly describing the effects observed (or the lack thereof), he enabled me to fully understand necessary parts in BIOS structure and come up with a final solution. @svl7 - Whose unlocked BIOS / Whitelist mod has served as a basis for this modification. His discovery of a security hole in V2.07 BIOS has provided us with a convenient BIOS flashing method that does not require a physical programmer. The Unlocked BIOS and WLAN whitelist mods originally designed by him are also implemented in this BIOS mod. @gerald - For designing the aforementioned adapter. Without it, all this work would make very little sense. Key features: Resolves the "40-second reboot" issue normally encountered while using Nvidia graphics cards with Ultrabay eGPU adapter, thus allowing all Nvidia cards to be used. Based on the latest V3.08 BIOS. Includes Svl7's WLAN whitelist removal mod - for the convenience of aftermarket WLAN card users. Includes Svl7's BIOS debug menu mod - for the ease of experimentation with newly available features, e.g. attempting to use Nvidia Optimus to pass eGPU video back to laptop's display. NB! Svl7's Debug Menu is not a toy! It contains a lot of options that are either not supported or partially supported by the hardware platform and/or can disturb its normal operation or prevent the PC from booting up at all. Any of the entries not originally present in the stock BIOS should be modified at your own risk! DISCLAIMER: ANY MODIFICATIONS YOU ARE APPLYING TO YOUR HARDWARE ARE PERFORMED AT YOUR OWN RISK! AUTHOR OF THIS MOD DOES NOT HOLD ANY LIABILITY FOR LOSS OR DAMAGE RELATED TO USING THIS SOFTWARE. Screenshots: Installation instructions: If things don't go right: Error 43: If you intend using the GTX10XX-series Nvidia card as the eGPU (which you probably do), you are very likely to encounter the infamous Error 43 in Windows Device Manager. This is a widely known issue in the eGPU community and is not related to this particular mod in any way. Following this guide thoroughly will in most cases resolve the Error 43 issue. Download: Get your copy here! P.S.: Version of this mod for Lenovo Y400/Y500 models is coming soon!
  5. I am very new to this stuff, but i decided to try to do an eGPU setup. I have the EXP GDC Beast, a GTX 1050, and an EVGA 500 Watt power supply. I have the beast plugged into the power supply with the long 20 pin connector and the 4 pin connector labeled "CPU", but the beast and the PSU never turn on. There are no fans on and no lights. I can get it to turn on for half a second, then turn off again, if I unplug everything, then plug in the HDMI(plug that connects to computer), then the power, but it seems like that will break it, and this only happens when the left switch is set to "PWR". I have the left switch set to "ATX", and the right set to off. Have any of you had this problem, I am stumped right now. Thanks!
  6. Hello, A couple of days ago I got a new GPU but when I installed it into my computer I was unable to use it but now I know why. When checking the device manger I went into the events tab of my GPU when I went to view all events, I noticed an error it said " event 411 kernel PnP " and It also said Problem Status: 0xC01E0438. I believe this is why my GPU hasn't been working on my PC. If you know how to fix this problem or have info on how to fix this problem that would be greatly appreciated. I'm also using a EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660.
  7. I'm having a problem where my PC is saying my eGPU is not usable, its detected in the Device Manager and it doesn't have the yellow triangle next to it. I cant use it games and the Nvidia Control Panel doesn't recognize it either. I'm using a EVGA NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1660. I'm using windows 10 and I tried DDU and reinstalling them and now I cant access the nvidia control panel. The GPU is not recognize on any other apps and I went on *********** and was unable to find my answer, Any help on how to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated.
  8. Title sums it up. TL;DR: we have a Clevo that runs a desktop CPU, one with those huge 82 Wh batteries. We remove the GPU and let it use the CPU's integrated graphics. How much time for the battery to go from 100 to 0? Is it comparable to an ultrabook's? I'm theorizing a mobile set with a static eGPU and an upgradable CPU. Given a hypothetical user that needs fast processing on the go and long battery life while retaining very high degrees of mobility, but at home wants a powerful machine to run most games, I guess that would be their best bet. It would surely be more convenient to keep everything in the same disk. And even though the thing would be quite heavy to carry around, changing CPU would be more cost-efficient than changing an entire laptop. (Not sure if I'm right here, and also I'm not sure whether the motherboard in a Clevo would be replaceable when the new CPU needs a different socket, which is another reason why I'm asking here.) If my above guesses aren't correct, then an ultrabook with Thunderbolt and without a dedicated GPU would be a better choice. If they are, then we would be carrying more weight in exchange of a more cost-efficient setup, which I think would be a fair tradeoff. Also I am aware of the heating problems that these laptops suffer from, at least compared to a desktop setup. Would they be solved by moving the GPU out of the chassis, and instead plugging it with an eGPU dock via Thunderbolt port? What do you think? Is it doable? If not, why?
  9. Razer has just released their 12.5" Razer Blade Stealth Ultrabook that is thin enough to take to work while offering the option for desktop level gaming. This new ultrabook weighs in at just 2.75 lbs/1.25 kg and has a profile of only 0.52". What makes the Razer Blade Stealth different from all their previous offerings is that it takes a page out of Alienware and other vendors playbook by coupling the ultrabook via Thunderbolt 3 USB-C to an external enclosure called Razer Core which houses a full desktop GPU. The ultrabook also has two very appealing touch display options that use IGZO technology. The QHD (2560 x 1440) option features 70% Adobe RGB coverage while the UHD (3840 x 2160) display has 100% Adobe RGB color space. For people that work with Photoshop and other media, the 100% Adobe RGB coverage can be very useful for productivity purposes. Even for gamers, a 70% Adobe RGB display can give an image depth not found in lesser displays. The ultrabook also features the latest Skylake based Intel Core i7-6500U dual core processor with Intel HD Graphics 520. While the Intel HD 520 isn't ideal for gaming, it is capable of playing the latest games like Star Wars Battlefront albeit at low settings. Additionally, it comes standard with a 128 GB SSD and can be configured with a 512 GB SSD. Finally, the Razer Blade Stealth is equipped with a Razer Chroma anti-ghosting keyboard that has individually backlit keys with 16.8 million colors per key that lend to a wide array of color combinations. The Razer Core enclosure as mentioned uses a Thunderbolt 3 connection and houses a single double-wide, full-length PCI-Express x16 graphics card up to 375 Watts. Like the ultrabook, the Razer Core uses Chroma technology that allows custom lighting color configurations. Pricing for the ultrabook starts at $999 while the Razer Core isn't officially available for sale yet. View full article
  10. Hello everyone I created a case for egpu using 2.5mm acrylic sheets. The first time I created a case to support a GPU + ATX psu Now I created another one for the GPU with an external Xbox 360 203w psu. the finish was not good but for my use it is already good. *both cases album *Construction of the second case *adapting xbox psu to 8pin power (taken from 24pin) all made by hand with the tools I had. from Brazil.
  11. I bought this thingy-mabob so I can try an egpu build. It's an Sonnet Echo Pro Adapter. what it does is it able to connect to expresscard devices over thunderbolt. I bought the Pe4c (which is the thing to put your gpu at) and I put in an old gt 640 (yes it works). I crossed my fingers AND I prayed but all this shit does is make the fans spin at like 1000rpm (I got a nice little personal fan now). I tried updating BIOS and disabling dGPU I even fresh installed my computer (goodbye porn ) Anyway, I wanted to do this because in the long run, it would have saved me money instead of buying a new computer. All I would have needed to do was buy a new gpu and BAM! 4K gaming. But if anyone wanna help my sorry ass, please do so. I wanna play BF1 but 4 year old gpu is crap. Please anyone with knowledge of this subject or maybe even the legendary Nando4 can help. Thanks.
  12. Hi, just a quick question what would be the best EGPU adapter, because i see the really expensive ones but then you have the 400$ dollar one that Lowspecgamer used. Which do you guys recommend ?
  13. Hi, i have some questions about my laptop compatibilty for a egpu laptp specs: Intel Core i7-6500U CPU @ 2.50GHz Intel HD Graphics 520 8 GB RAM DDR3 1600 MHz so the first question i have, is possible adapt a desktop graphic card to this laptop? i see in this forum about similar models can do it, but what you do think about? ---------- the wifi adapter is a Intel AC 3165 wich is connected to a NGFF port of the laptop, so i will need the NGFF version of the EXP GDC adapter... i am correct in this??? -------- im think get a GTX 1070 or a 1060, the bandwhich of the NGFF port, and the cpu of my laptop have power enougth to use the 1070 or i'll be better a samller graphic card? --------- other question is what i need to change in the bios to enable correctly the eGPU? your help be useful to me thanks pd: sorry for my bad english :/
  14. Hi, I want to show you my new project. I bought my laptop about 5 years ago. It was never speed deamon, but for every day use, it was enough to me. Its specification: Intel i7-4700MQ Nvidia GeForce GT745M 16GB RAM 512 SSD Adata SU800 Yesterday I bought Witcher 3. Of course on 1080p it's impossible to play, because of about 10fps So I make a decision to buy external grahpic card. I choose GTX970 and now I am looking for occasion to buy it. I've already bought EXP GDC v8.4d mPCI-E. It is used and cost about 30$. I will use ATX PSU to supply graphic card, because I have old desktop PSU at home. My plan: 1) unlock bios 2) buy GTX 970 3) enjoy Witcher 3! BTW I try to cool down my laptop, so I replaced thermal paste to Kryonout Thermal Grizzly and make some tests. Temperatures and fps are on screenshots. 1) laptop on table, playing GTA V 1080p - first minute (GPU core 1045MHz) -after some time, because of high temperature and GPU throlttling (GPU core drop down even to 400MHz) 2) with thermalpad Glacier NC400 SilentiumPC - 30 minute and longer (GPU core drop to about 900MHz) 3) without down case of laptop (like on picture with thermal paste) on thermalpad. Here laptop never drops down MHz and max temp are about 72 Celsius degrees. Bacause of that I bought second down case for my laptop and I will cut there additional holes. Greetings! I will describe next step when I get all stuff I need!
  15. Tech Inferno Fan>> June-1-2015: BPlus have released a soldered cable PE4C 3.0 with better Gen2 and even Gen3 compliance. It is recommended over any previous PE4C 2.x or 1.x that used the a socketted cable giving unreliable Gen2 compliance. See details. Welcome to this thread. In this thread, we'll discuss about Bplus's latest eGPU adapter, PE4C V2.x. If anyone has any question, please don't hesitate to ask. I'll be glad to help you. Here's what you need to know to get started: Product's picture : This product supports Gen2 PCi-e speed, which means that you get about twice as fast as the Gen1. What's good thing about this is that PE4C v2.x is powered by Dell 220W AC-MK394 Adapter that's enough to run cards like GTX 680 or 760 and also remove the reason of owning a bulky and messy power supply. PE4C V2.0 has two hdmi connector for x2 link connection.This product has a big base to make it look more high quality, and it help to stabilize the adapter. Also, there is a card lock that holds the GPU from accidental card removals. Here's the product's parts to make the story short: Price for each option is US$105 excluding shipping, US$134 including shipping. Please if you have PE4C V2.x, share us your experience. Details about PE4C V1.2 instead is here: cheaper, x2 capable, flexible FCC cable but only Gen1 capable Product History 2.1 Oct-14: increased price $90->$105. Introduced 4-pin CPU power connector and native 8-pin Dell DA-2 connector 2.0 Sep-14: initial release
  16. Hi everyone, I've made this post to gather as much information of the problem I'm facing with my Gtx 970 egpu setup, so if anyone is suffering something similar it would be really helpful if you could share your setup too. My Lenovo y510p Setup: Cpu: intel i7-4700MQ 8gb of ram Windows 8.1 Bplus PE4C v3.0 adapter mPCIe Gpu: MSI Gtx 970 (4gd5 oc) Evga 500 power supply My setup is working find without errors but whats bothering me is that when I'm using Internal Screen to play my fps won't go beyond 48-49fps no matter how old the game is DX9, DX10-11. I've tried to lower graphic settings, resolution, disable full-screen on all the games and but still stuck at 48fps. I know I should get lower performance because of internal screen but fps shouldn't be limited to 48? What I've tried but non helped : Installing different drivers. Overcloking gpu. Changing nvidia global settings, like vsync, etc.. Share Your experience if you have similar behavior on your egpu. Edit. Found Someone http://www.owen-lu.com/egpu/ with same behavior with gtx970 but using ExpressCard connection.
  17. Dear all, I hope someone can help me out here. I have an Acer Aspire E4-471g Laptop. Intel Core i5-4210U NVIDIA GeForce 820M 16gb DDR3 RAM 512GB SSD I have an EXP GDC V8 Beast eGPU adapter. I use a power adapter to juice my eGPU by Dell Netzteil ADP-220AB B 12V 18A 220W P/N Y2515 REV A02 I have a Zotac GeForce GTX1050ti 4GB The Problem:- I did the normal procedure, disable the eGPU. Took out the wifi and replace it with the mpcie cable. Switch on the computer and I have a blank screen. No screen at all on the laptop screen nor in the external monitor. Is there a best solution? I have seen the Setup 1.3 but I will do that if that is really the necessity.
  18. Hi there guys, I've been looking into getting a new GPU for my laptop (4-lane PCI-e) and enclosure (HP Omen Enclosure) but I cannot decided between the RX 5700 XT and the RTX 2070 (non SUPER). I did some price to performance calculations (higher is better) with some of the best prices I can currently get in the UK. The RX 5700 XT does perform better and is cheaper than the RTX 2070 (Although the 2070 does come with 2 games) but my main concern is drivers and from what I've heard NVIDIA cards work a lot better with eGPUs than AMD. If anyone has experience using both red & green or if anyone else has any other input i'd love to hear your experiences and input. Thanks.
  19. Alright. Just leaving this here for reference. System: Hardware HP ProBook 6570b Core i5 3340M 8GB RAM (4+4) iGPU Intel HD 4000 Software Win 10 Pro 64-bit Build 14393 (MBR install, not UEFI) Additions: Hardware nVidia GTX 1070 (MSI Founder's Edition) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127941 PE4C 3.0 PCIe x16 Adapter (ExpressCard version) http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4C V3.0.html Generic 500W ATX Power Supply Unit (PSU) Software Display Driver Uninstaller http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html nVidia Graphics Drivers 372.70 (Notebook, Win 10, 64 bit, International, WHQL) http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/geforce-372-70-whql-driver-download.html nando's DIY eGPU Setup 1.3 https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/1650-diy-egpu-setup-130-previously-setup-1x/ DSDT Editor + Compiler pack https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/2750-guide-dsdt-override-simultaneous-igpu-dgpu-egpu/ Direct Download Link: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?pnp2s67dhg3knly Configuration: Hardware All systems off/offline PE4C Delay Switch (SW1) set to position 2 ! Position 1 will cause BIOS freeze/lockup ! PSU 24 pin power connector to 24 pin PE4C slot ! Fasten securely with connector clip locked in ! PSU 4 pin CPU power connector to 12 pin PE4C slot (Right 4) ! Fasten securely with connector clip locked in ! GTX 1070 into PE4C PCIe x16 slot and secured ! Fasten securely to extender with screw/nut ! PE4C 8 pin power output connector to GTX 1070 8 pin power slot ! Fasten securely with connector clip locked in ! PE4C ExpressCard connector to laptop ExpressCard slot ! Position PE4C so that there's not much twisting/strain on the ExpressCard connector cable that is soldered to PE4C ! PSU powered on Laptop powered on All systems on/online Software Update BIOS to latest version http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=5212930&swLangOid=8&swEnvOid=4059 On power on, hit Esc and enter HP BIOS Config Set boot mode to Legacy (Not UEFI or Hybrid) Set ExpressCard slot speed to Gen 2.0 (or higher) Save and exit/restart Ensure Windows is running in Legacy mode/MBR disk Start > Run > MSINFO32 > BIOS Mode under System Summary should read "Legacy" If not, Basic: (Re)Install Windows 10 Advanced: http://www.disk-partition.com/windows-10/convert-mbr-gpt-windows-10-0528.html Uninstall any previously installed graphics drivers from Programs in Control Panel Use Display Driver Uninstaller to clean up any previously installed graphics drivers Install nVidia graphics drivers Device manager now shows the installed GTX 1070, but with Error Code 12 (Insufficient free resources) Perform a DSDT override as described in https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/5874-guide-dsdt-override-to-fix-error-12/ using the DSDT Editor and Compiler bundle. Helpful info in this post too https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/2750-guide-dsdt-override-simultaneous-igpu-dgpu-egpu/. Basically, run DSDT Editor. File > Extract DSDT. Then add the code as shown in the post above. Specific to HP systems: On compiling, errors will be detected. (Do not click on 'Fix errors' as it doesn't help with these specific errors). To get past this, delete the full stops at the specified line numbers, usually near a text string inside quotes [" " ...] . Also, look for the If (CondRefOf (FPED)) { FPED () } block and move it whole, to inside the Method (_INI, 0, NotSerialized) block, under the Scope (GFX0) block, in the file. Try compiling and ensure that there are no errors. (Warnings are not a problem). Save the file as .dsl. Open command prompt in that folder, then compile using the iasl command and the filename you saved the dsl file with. That should create an aml file. Again, in command prompt, run the asl command with the newly created aml file. Also run bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON, to allow the DSDT table override. Reboot and check device manager in Resources by Connection view, and ensure that there is a 'Large Memory' entry. Install nando's DIY eGPU Setup 1.3. Preferably, extract the files and write to/setup a USB stick. Boot from the flash drive and install. Configure as needed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC99rJOtioE Make sure mbr is used instead of mbr2 Save startup.bat Reboot into DIY eGPU, and load startup.bat Then chainload into Windows 10 nVidia Control Center must now be active and the graphics card is ready to run games, CUDA applications, etc Took me a while to get it up and running. Did extensive reading/research on the subject. No Man's Sky, Skyrim, Talos Principle run without any issues on high/ultra (but then again, screen isn't full HD). Haven't run benchmarks yet. Big thanks to nando and TechInferno peeps. lml_ PC Master Race _lml
  20. Hi guys, bit of a rookie to the whole EGPU scene. Currently I have: - MacBook Pro 2015 13inch (3.1GHz Core i7 16GB RAM) - Razer X Core - Apple TB3 to TB2 Adapter - TB2 Cable (Cable Matters) - 23inch AOC External Monitor I am wonder about what graphics card to get to run X-Plane11 with high graphic settings? I have purgewrangler set up and ready to use with an AMD graphics card, but am also open to the idea of an Nvidia graphics card. Any advice appreciated. I did not buy a Windows PC as I need a Mac for various other things and wanted an all-in-one laptop.
  21. I am using an EGPU on my Lenovo Y510p (http://imgur.com/HN51mJj). I have hooked up the GPU and booted up windows and I got the error 43 message (http://imgur.com/QfhThfh). I a using a Corsair CX600PSU and the V8.0 EXP GDC Beast EGPU enclosure (http://www.banggood.com/Mini-PCI-E-Version-V8_0-EXP-GDC-Beast-Laptop-External-Independent-Video-Card-Dock-p-1011222.html).
  22. The GPU works, The PSU works, The system works. [individually they all do work] The system works perfectly fine without the WLAN card. When i put the system to sleep and hotswap the mPCIe riser and WLAN press something on the keyboard.. Restarts. Will shutdown in roughly 27 seconds for those 27 seconds it works just fine like how it normally would on external monitor. When i shut it down and plug the riser and switch it on, same story. 27 seconds. I don't even see a error. I get to login screen directly. I used DDU already. I timed it. no matter what i do if i use the eGPU, External monitor it restarts instead of pause-play. I have 27 seconds. Need help!
  23. I got the exp gdc beast 8.5 got all the connections right... laptop boots up... fans turn on the gpu.... device manager detects gtx 1060 with a “ ! “ in a yellow triangle. Now what to do.... i tried to do the bios mod.... but realised that i have 3.07 version. Questions- 1 is there any way to get this done without the mod?? 2 if mod is the only way... kindly help me with step by step instruction in laymans terms... i m not a techy... so i might not understand technical terms.... altho i am interested... but learning yet. Please help.
  24. no more 4GB+ system RAM issues: use a DSDT override to extend the root bridge into 36-bit space (Windows 7/8/10 only - MacOS/Linux are unaffected) Introduction>>> This problem and solution is only relevant to Windows operating systems. MacOS ignores the root bridge and can allocate in 64-bit space as kizwan found here. Linux has a "noCRS" kernel parameter to ignore the root bridge boundaries so the OS can also also allocate in full 64-bit pci-e space. The this process aims to solve the problem of seeing an error 12 (This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use) issues against a eGPU in Windows Device Manager due to insufficient 32-bit addressing space. By manually adding a memory range outside of this 32-bit space, we can force Windows to operate in 36-bit space instead to host eGPUs. Know systems that will require this process are Dell Latitude Ex410 series, Samsung Series-4, Sony F-Series and MSI CRx20, HP-Elitebook/Probook xx60x/xx70x with AMD GPUs. Those have insufficient free 32-bit PCI space to accomodate a eGPU if have 4GB or more of RAM installed. They can't use Setup 1.30's PCI compaction to create sufficient space because they either have TOLUD=3.5GB, have lower TOLUD like 3.25GB but with an unmovable systemboard device occupying candidate free pci space making it unusable or are using an AMD or GTX650/GTX750 card that requires over 256MB contiguous space. Refer to Pre-Purchase FAQ #2(>> 2. How can I check if my notebook is compatible with an eGPU?) for details on how to check your TOLUD. The same solution can be applied to any 3-gens old PM965 chipsets (2007) or newer system. They have a 64-bit CPU and chipset so are fully PAE-36-bit/64-bit compatible. Dell Inspiron 1440/1525 (core2duo) and Dell Vostro 1015 (core2duo) have BIOS-configured 36-bit root bridges already so don't require this workaround. I happened to run into one of these problematic systems. A Dell E4310 with TOLUD=3.5G which can be maxxed out at 16GB of RAM. It's too nice an ultraportable to be need to downgrade RAM to 3GB of RAM to use an eGPU. I set of in pursuit of how to add a DIY eGPU to it which is documented below. Using Setup 1.30's 36-bit PCI compaction on the eGPU to relocate it in such space will see the eGPU still give an error 12 in Device Manager. Why is that? Avlan confirmed that the 32-bit root bridge definition limited allocation only to 32-bit space. The fix being a modified DSDT loaded as a registry override that extends the root bridge (ACPI PNP0A08 or PNP0A03 device) into 36-bit space. Avlan's fix was cryptic so wasn't attempted on other systems. After a bit of digging from the following references I found the QWORDMemory DSDT static resource entry can be used to easily extend root bridge entry into 36-bit space. Ref: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] 64bit PCI range in _CRS table plus two examples at virtualbox and Coreboot. Tools required>>> The iasl and asl tools used are in 2570P-dsdt-override or (older) DELL-36b-root-bridge.rar. Allternatively, can download them from their original sources: The latest Windows Binary Tools (WBT): Download The Windows Driver Kit (WDK), which contains the Windows ASL Compiler: Download Notepad++ (or any other text editor) Step-by-step DSDT override>>> Need a 36-bit root bridge DSDT override The test Dell E4310's root bridge was extended into 36-bit space with the steps below. See also http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-g...html#post49833 , user angerthosenear's alternative instructions to those presented below where can use a DSDT Editor to simply the patching process if experience a compilation error: NOTE: kizwan expands steps 1-3 here. Useful if you need more assistance with these steps. Kizwan also provides a video tutorial . 1. Identify the resources used by the PNP0A08 or PNP0A03 devices in Windows. This can be found by perusing Device Manager->Resources by connection->Memory. Then check the last PCI BUS entry. Eg: 2. Capture the DSDT table using command below. This gives a raw dump of the ACPI tables in .dat files. dsdt.dat is the one we will be using. Newer versions of iasl no longer having the "-g" option in which case use acpidump instead. iasl -g acpidump -b 3.Decompile dsdt.dat to get an output dsdt.dsl text file that can be editted: iasl dsdt.dat 4. Open the resultant dsdt.dsl file and look for the PNP0A08/PNP0A03 'DWordMemory' resource entries. Under the last DWordMemory entry in that area, add a 'QWordMemory' (64-bit) entry shown as the second paragraph below. I ensure that I stay in the 36-bit range (< 64GB) so the location is compatible with the PAE-capable Win7 32-bit. I also chose a location above 48GB so we won't have issues with maxxed out memory. The range chosen was 48.5GB to 56.25GB. DWordMemory (ResourceProducer, PosDecode, MinFixed, MaxFixed, Cacheable, ReadWrite, 0x00000000, // Granularity 0x000A0000, // Range Minimum 0x000BFFFF, // Range Maximum 0x00000000, // Translation Offset 0x00020000, // Length ,, , AddressRangeMemory, TypeStatic) QWordMemory (ResourceProducer, PosDecode, MinFixed, MaxFixed, Cacheable, ReadWrite, 0x0000000000000000, // Granularity 0x0000000C20000000, // Range Minimum, set it to 48.5GB 0x0000000E0FFFFFFF, // Range Maximum, set it to 56.25GB 0x0000000000000000, // Translation Offset 0x00000001F0000000, // Length calculated by Range Max - Range Min. ,, , AddressRangeMemory, TypeStatic) 5. Create a dsdt.aml file with the 'iasl -oa dsdt.dsl' compiler directive. '-oa' disables all optimizations found necessary to get working solutions. It is unlikely this will succeed first time, as the compiler is very strict. In general warnings are acceptable, but errors may require some fiddling. Those will need to be corrected with common patches in Common DSDT patches for Ivy/Sandy/Haswell laptops, How to fixed DSDT errors? (kizwan). Consider asking for guidance at tonymacx86.com DSDT forums. DSDT editting alone could have it's own forum. Then try compiling your DSDT again. iasl -oa dsdt.dsl 6. Load the dsdt.aml file into into the registry as a DSDT override. You must be an admin user for this to be successful. asl /loadtable dsdt.aml 7. [Windows 8.x/10] Enable test signing mode for the registry override to apply. You must be an admin user for this to be successful. bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON An alternative to disabling testsigning in Win8/10 is to do a Win8: Perform a DSDT substitution within Setup 1.30 to overcome TOLUD issues. Win7 users who don't want to do the registry override can also do this DSDT substitution. 8. Check you now have a new Large Memory entry in Device Manager->Resources by Connection->Memory as shown below: 9. The same fix was done on a Dell E4300 and Win7 did automatically allocate the eGPU into the 36-bit space. If you still see error 12 then there are two options to pursue: Re plug'n'play the devices. Go into Device Manager -> Video cards, delete the eGPU. Also go into Device Manager -> System devices and delete the PCI Express Root Port x entries. Upon restarting the system, halt Win7 startup with F8, attach and power on your eGPU and then proceed to load Win7. Win7 should now be clever enough to re-allocate the eGPU into 36-bit space upon realizing there is insufficient 32-bit space to host it. Can go one step further and delete your eGPU NVidia/ATiAMD driver, restart the system and reload it. That may help as well. Hard allocate the eGPU into 36-bit PCI space before booting Win7 using Setup 1.30. Select PCI compaction->Endpoint=56.25GB (36-bit) and then select Run compact. When prompted for the scope select eGPU. The result will be similar to that shown in the spoiler in step 8 above, but with the eGPU rather then the Intel HD iGPU being in 36-bit PCI space. Can then proceed to automate this by editting your %DRV%:\config\startup.bat (or V:\config\startup.bat in windows) so can just select the Automated startup via startup.bat Setup 1.30 bootitem and have it do everything for you: call speedup lbacache call vidwait 300 call vidinit -d %eGPU% call pci call chainload mbr Testing results>>> * Lenovo X230 (jay_dark_dry): SUCCESS! Allocated the eGPU into 36-bit space. * Lenovo T430 (arteart) : SUCCESS! Allocated the eGPU into 36-bit space. * HP 2570P (Tech Inferno Fan): SUCCESS! Allocated the eGPU into 36-bit space. * Dell E4310 (Tech Inferno Fan): SUCCESS! I relocated the Intel HD iGPU into 36-bit space using Setup 1.30 as shown in step 8 above freeing 256MB of contiguous 32-bit space to host an eGPU, so it will definitely work. Plus there is plenty of 36-bit space for the eGPU too. Unfortunately my PE4L 2.1 isn't working so I can't show the iGPU+eGPU both being active but it will work * Dell Studio 1557 (Kizwan): SUCCESS! His HD5870 successfully relocated to 36-bit pci-e space. FAQ>>> 1. When do I need to hotplug my eGPU to overcome the error12 with a DSDT override?(kizwan) 2. How to clean the DSDT override properly? (kizwan) (*We will need to delete DSDT key in registry) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSetXXX\services\ACPI\Parameters\DSDT * where XXX are 001, 002, 003 & so on. and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\ACPI\Parameters\DSDT I didn't really tested whether deleting "DSDT" key in ControlSetXXX (XXX are 001, 002, 003 & so on) really necessary but I will test this when I test your latest Setup 1.30. For sure deleting "DSDT" key in CurrentControlSet is necessary. You can access registry via command line. So, you can put it in .bat file.
  25. Has any company out there launched a laptop with an external MXM port? Just curious since with the boom in the gaming laptop market and some companies launching eGPU thunderbolt enclosures, isnt the MXM faster? Is it because of licensing issues? or hardware problems?
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