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  1. Hi guys, Following on from @squinks' work: http://forum.techinferno.com/implementation-guides/6689-%5Bguide%5D-2013-15-macbook-pro-gt750m-gtx780ti%4016gbps-tb2-sonnet-ee-iii-d-win8-1-a.html#post91182 I have finally got my Sonnet Echo Express SE II working with the MSI Nvidia GTX760 and my late-2013 Macbook Pro 15" which I custom ordered to have only the Intel Iris 5200 GPU. It is also a quad-core with 16GB ram and 512GB SSD. I am powering the card using a Corsair RM650 because that is what was easily available, fully modular (so I only need the PCIe power cable) and has a power switch easily accessible. I am running Windows 8.1 which I have installed UEFI using this guide. Originally when I received the Sonnet I found out that the PCI slots were only 8x length and so you could not insert the graphics card which is 16x length. Because I am a bit of an idiot and couldn't find a google answer easily enough I tried to hack off the end of the slot with a utility knife. Unfortunately it seems that when I did that I put too much pressure on the PCB and broke it. I received the new board yesterday and you can see in the photo below that it looks like in the later revision (right) they changed the left slot from an 8x to a 16x so you don't have to hack up the slot like I (failed) to do. It is a shame that they didn't extend both of the slots as there would be more airflow if the middle slot was 16x too as the edge of the enclosure would be further apart. Also, the power cables only just fit and are under some pressure when the case is on, I haven't been able to find many 90 degree 'low-profile' PCIe power cables but that would solve this problem. In terms of operation it is a bit of a pain. If the Sonnet and the graphics card are powered when you turn on the machine then Apple's BIOS disables the Intel GPU. This will work perfectly with an external screen but if you have used one of these MacBooks you will know how incredibly good the MacBook's screen is. To get Optimus (or to install drivers) my turnon sequence is: 1. Turn on machine with only the Sonnet plugged in (PSU off). It annoyingly doesn't have a power switch but will turn on when the Thunderbolt cable is plugged in and MacBook is powered on. Hold down the alt/option key so you can select Windows. 2. As soon as the Apple startup chime is heard turn on the PSU (and therefore the graphics card). 3. Quickly start up Windows. I suspect something is happening with the Sonnet's power settings that if you delay then the GPU is not detected. Weird. 4. You should be able to tell the GPU has started as Windows does some strange stuttering on startup only (e.g. typing in password is strangely laggy) but this is completely gone after logging in. I haven't got that many benchmarks but you can see it is running correctly over Thunderbolt 2.0: CUDA-Z Performance Information ----------------------- Memory Copy Host Pinned to Device: 1262.49 MiB/s Host Pageable to Device: 1128.11 MiB/s Device to Host Pinned: 1352.1 MiB/s Device to Host Pageable: 1206.5 MiB/s Device to Device: 64.3746 GiB/s If you do the maths then Host to Device (1262)+Device to Host (1352) then we are getting pretty good speeds: 2614 (Megabyte / s) = 20.421875 Gigabit / s Also, you can see this is much higher than the Thunderbolt 1 Thundertek CUDA-Z score (for Device to Host only) of 790MiB/s vs 1352.1 MiB/s (171%). Now if only we had some other manufacturers interested they could quickly address these BIOS/EFI level issues and we could have true plug-and-play eGPUS!
  2. masterblaster 2.0 comment>> This is the first Windows 8.x implementation where a dormant iGPU was activated to enable x1.Opt (x1 pci-e compression) on a 1st gen i-core (dual core) system supplied by the manufacturer with a dGPU only. First I want to say thank you for Tech Inferno Fan for his huge help the whole project and I want to apologize for my bad english. I'm from Germany and still a student so be surprised A long time ago I saw a video with an graphics card running external connect to an notebook. I always thought about doing this by myself and one day I decided to order an eGPU adapter and the graphics card. First the specs of my notebook: Model: Acer Aspire 5742G CPU: i7-640m (upgraded from an i3-370m) with dormant Intel HD iGPU not connect to LCD GPU: Nvidia GeForce GT420m dGPU only RAM: 8GB DDR3 So now we are getting to the things you need: free mPCI slot (unfortunately the Aspire 5742G has only one slot, so you need to remove the Wifi-Card. In my sitution no problem because I'm using lan either way.) PCIe -> mPCIe adapter (PE4L, PE4H or what I used the PE4C) A GPU of your choice (I chose a Nvidia GeForce GTX660Ti) A PSU that has enough power (I used an PSU with 550W found in the basement) Setup 1.x (buy it from Tech Inferno Fan for 25$) -> it's necessary, without you wouldn't be able to run the eGPU A case or something to store you eGPU + GPU (not necessary, but looks tidier) Windows 8.x (I wasn't successful with Win 7. If you want to know more about it, you can read more here.) External Display -> internal isn't working because the dGPU is disabled and the iGPU isn't connected to the LCD Some explanations: The biggest problem about the whole process is that the Aspire 5742G has a iGPU but it's not connect to the LCD and even if you have enabled it via Setup 1.x you are always getting Error 43 in device-manager. As seen on the screen here. So the point is to enable the iGPU and disable the dGPU under Win8.x to get a working x1.Opt setup. The way of just disabling the dGPU via Setup 1.x is ending up in freezing and you have to restart the notebook. So I tried a lot of things with Tech Inferno Fan. So many things and I was close to just give up all. But then he had the great idea to just disable the PCI port where the dGPU is connected on. And that's the way how it's working Let's get started: 1. You need to buy the Setup 1.x from Tech Inferno Fan. Here you will get more information about it. 2. Install it as mentioned in the email. 3. Then navigate to "C:\eGPU" and run the "eGPU-Setup-mount.bat" batch file to install Setup 1.x. Now you will see a new drive named "DIYEGPUIMG (V:)" 4. Go to "V:\config" and just replace the "startup.bat" with my startup.bat startup.zip. (It's just to make the whole process easier. It's configured by Tech Inferno Fan and optimized by me. So it's easy and fast to boot up.) 5. If you have done this all correctly you should get an option "DIY eGPU Setup 1.30" on startup. (When not make you sure you missed no step or done it wrong.) 6. Select the Setup 1.30 and run the "automated startup" (You are now using the startup.bat you have downlaoded an replaced with the stock.) 7. Some lines will now come up and then you get an message that your eGPU isn't connected. Just power on your eGPU (PSU + PCI adapter. Make sure, the switch shows "ON") and connect the mPCI adapter to your notebook. 8. If done correctly you now should be back in the selection menu where you can select Windows 8.x or the Setup 1.30. Now select Windows 8.x. 9. Windows is booting normal and you should see your desktop. (If not -> make sure you did everything right.) 10. Go to device manager and you will see two new devices. Click on install drivers and wait until it finished. (eGPU driver took about 10 minutes so don't be impatient.) Important: It can happen that you get an bluescreen while installing the iGPU driver. I don't know why, perhaps because it isn't connected to the LCD. When this happens just start at point 6. and go on. 11. Now download the graphics card driver that is compabtile to your graphics card. Uninstall your old driver and install the new one. (You can do this step before starting with the eGPU but I don't think there is any difference in doing this after.) 12. When you have successfully installed your Nvidia driver now it's getting tricky but still such simple 13. Go to device manager and select "devices on connection" (German: "Geräte nach Verbindung") and search where the dGPU is connected on and just disable it. (I got an blackscreen and I needed to restart my laptop via the power button. But it doesn't matter you need to restart your notebook anyway to get fully working x1.Opt Setup. 14. After restart (just like point 6. you can check the device manager and you should only see the "Intel HD Graphics [iGPU] and your video card that you bought. In my situation the GTX660Ti [eGPU]. (If not -> check the steps above.). 15. You should now have a fully working (expect the internal screen isn't working) x1.Opt Setup. You can check this in the Nvidia cobtrol panel by checking if the "High-performance Nvidia processor" is available. Or go to GPU-Z and check it there. 16. At the end you can run 3dMark06 or other benchmark tools to compare your results with others. Or just play a game and enjoy it Here is my 3dMark06 score. With the same notebook you should get similar results. (+/- depends in you graphics card.) Something else to say: There are some downsides of using the eGPU Setup with an Aspire 5742G. I'll list some of my established. Need of removing wifi card You need to plug the eGPU in after running the automated startup. Otherwise you'll running into reboot loop. You are not able to go into sleep mode and wake up successfully (biggest downside for me) You won't get the full graphics power as on an desktop computer If you have any question or you think I forget something - feel free to ask me. startup.zip
  3. Hello, T|I Forum I looked around on this forum for titles hitting anything similar to this situation, but didn't find anything similar myself. I am also sorry for this long post, I wanted to be sure to give as much info on the problem as possible to help answer this problem. Using Nando4's Awesome "DIY eGPU experiences [version 2.0]" guide, I was able to get my setup working very easily with my T420 on Windows 7 Pro. Pleased with how well things were running I decided to buy a used T430 when one passed by my work for refurbishment.<!-- google_ad_section_end --> At first things were still going well with the setup, I currently have these specs here: Computer: Lenovo T430 /w Intel HD Graphics 4000 (only) 512 GB SSD (Main Drive) less then 6 months old 500 GB HDD (Backup Drive) less then a year old 8 GB of RAM less then 6 months old Windows 8.1 eGPU: NVidia GeForce GTX 660 (Would also like to upgrade to the GTX 780 if this issue can be fixed) PE4H (PCIe passive adapter ver2.4) Mini to Mini EC2C The Issues: After many days (2) of testing and reading through different googled searched forums trying to pin point this issue (not an easy one IMA as the main solution was to "disable each driver one at a time to see it the problem stops" Which ended in a Win 8 Refresh.) I ended up narrowing it down to the eGPU, as without it the computer runs fine and smooth, can play music and videos without it skipping every few seconds, and even games on low settings (the best this laptop can do without an eGPU :/ ) ran smoothly without jittering all over the place. However when I attach the eGPU, anytime I open a new window, start watching videos, or play any games, the DPC reading would spike off the charts every few seconds then back to normal. This may seem small, but during this spike, all audio would cut out as well as display a noticeable jitter on anything being displayed real time. The tool I'm using to read the DPC levels is "DPC Latency Checker V1.3.0" and I was using "LatencyMon" but that would just flood me with more info than I know what to do with. Other (useful?) Notes: The system always seemed to do the jittering thing with the T420 as well, but I always pushed that as being just because the GPU was a bit outdated, and the small lag never bothered me as much as it does now on the T430. The T430 might of had an update to the BIOS too. I now have new options and features I didn't notice before yesterday, something I had to visit yesterday after my SSD refuse to boot and had to reinstall Windows 8.1 when the repair disk would say the SSD was locked, (maybe due to a BIOS setting I changed when telling it to optimize it for Windows 8). As of Now, I have a bear bone Win 8.1 including its updates as well, as well as the latest updates (that I know of) for the chipsets and GPUs. Also, before the BIOS change, I was never able to run the eGPU on the Express card setting "Automatic" which would allow for Gen 2 devices to connect. Now I can! or so it seems. I now also have no issue turning on the PC with the eGPU already connected and on the "Automatic" setting, where before It would just cause the PC to never boot into windows. Things I Would Also Like To Know: This coming PowerBall Numbers? How to set up my PE4H ver 2.4 to run 2.0 with my 2.0 GPU to my 2.0 Express Card Slot. What are the other Channels for? Why does sticking the mini HDMI cable into PCI x2 instead of PCI x1 not provide power "= to" Gen 2 speeds? What is the delay switch for? Why does this board have no instructions when sent to people... This I wounded from day one after receiving the device. Oh and last (for now) A good thick cable to connect the mini to mini for best data rate... (Does it work like normal HDMI where that can be an issue?)
  4. I have a Y400, a 3D printer and a plan. I want to get a desktop GPU roughly compatible with the 650m -- GTX 650? -- and wire it up to my GPU-less Ultrabay. Having looked at the teardown pictures, it looks like something sort of kinda similar to a normal PCI port. Is this at all possible?
  5. zekkh

    Donation EGPU

    hello, was wondering if someone who can donate a EGPU, which is not in use and is able to send to Brazil. if possible post with video card. every day I get on the forum to see how the EGPU works and I do not have conditions to buy parts from a EGPU, and a video card, so if someone that has a EGPU and you are not using, you can send me?
  6. The lenovo y510p has no thunderbolt or express card but it does come with their own ultrabay technology by which you can add another graphics card inside a socket which hold in place of the DVD drive once you take it out. Apparently the ultrabay is a pcie 3 implementation. So I was thinking if its possible to DIY eGPU. I think besides the basic setup of eGPU one might need a specialized connector for the Ultrabay. Has anyone done it. Can anyone guide me to DIY?
  7. We've had a stack of recurring questions from with problems getting a mPCIe eGPU working. This includes GPU-Z not reporting no clock details, error 10/43 or even not being detected at all. Overall it's more troublesome getting mPCIe working than say expresscard or Thunderbolt. Here's some common problems and some troubleshooting steps to correct them. Getting a black bootup screen, resolving error 10/43 or ACPI_BIOS_ERROR win bootup messages Here the BIOS doesn't know what to do when it sees an eGPU. So the solution is to not let the BIOS see it. Do that by setting the delays on the eGPU adapter (CTD/PTD - EXP GDC or CLKRUN/PERST# on PE4L/PE4C). Boot with eGPU adapter in the wifi slot into Setup 1.30 or Windows. Is the eGPU detected? I'll add that should error 43 continue AND you have a NVidia dGPU as well as NVidia eGPU then it's likely because of having the mobile NVidia and desktop NVidia drivers loaded simultaneously. Proceed to uninstall ALL your NVidia drivers, use "DDU" to clean NVidia registry entries and do a 'clean' install of the latest NVidia desktop driver. mPCIe port that hosted the wifi card disappears when connecting an eGPU in it's place Use the Setup1.30 PCIe Ports->enable to enable the missing port. eGPU does not get detected Overcome mPCIe whitelisting by booting with the wifi card and then hotswapping in the eGPU. That way the BIOS will enable the mPCIe port to work. 1. Boot with wifi card into Windows, sleep system, swap wifi card for mPCIe eGPU adapter and ensure eGPU is powered on, resume system. Do a device manager scan in Windows. Is the eGPU detected? 2. Boot with wifi card into Setup 1.30 *carefully* hotplug the eGPU adapter in place of wifi card. Hit F5 to rescan the PCIe bus. Is the eGPU detected? If this enables detection then avoid this tedious hotswapping by seeking a unwhitelisted modified BIOS for your system OR test the Setup 1.30's PCI ports->undo_whitesting feature. eGPU still not detected - set the PSU to be permanently on The latest EXP GDC and BPlus eGPU adapters try to manage the PSU to only power on after they detect a signal. This can cause a race condition where the eGPU isn't ready to go when the CLKRUN signal is asserted. Avoid this by jumpering the PSU so it's permanently on rather than being managed. Depending on the PSU you are using refer to the following doco on how to do that: http://forum.techinferno.com/enclosures-adapters/8441-%5Bguide%5D-switching-atx-psu-using-paperclip-trick-swex.html http://forum.techinferno.com/enclosures-adapters/9426-220w-dell-da-2-ac-adapter-discussion.html eGPU still not detected - a non-standard mPCIe implementation by your vendor? PERST# mPCIe pin 22 may need to be isolated due to a non-standard implementation by your notebook vendor: http://forum.techinferno.com/enclosures-adapters/10812-pe4x-series-understanding-clkreq-perst-delay.html#post142689 eGPU still not detected - faulty hardware? If you still don't get detection then test the video card and eGPU adapter in another machine to confirm neither is faulty. NVidia driver stops responding EXP GDC, PE4H 2.4 and PE4L 1.5 all use a socketted cable and therefore are not true Gen2 compatible device. This error indicates there was transmissions errors. The solution is either to get a better Gen2-compliant eGPU adapter such as PE4C V3.0 or PE4L 2.1b (both with soldered cable), or downgrade your link from Gen2 to Gen1 using BIOS options or Setup 1.30 Other troubleshooting help resources? See DIY eGPU Troubleshooting FAQ.
  8. Hello fellow Lenovo owners, I've started at tech thread over at the Lenovo forums, to ask them for a bios update to solve the TOLUD problem. Atm. i'm running the latest bios (2.59), and unfortunately my PCI bus memory adress says: DFA00000 - > TOLUD 3,5 GB = no room for eGPU with 4GB+ RAM. I've tried to override DSDT aswell (Windows 7, 64 bit), but it all turns out to BSOD's at boot. I've stumbled across another thread on lenovo forums, which gained the right attention for the Lenovo staff to update the bios's on the X230 and T230 models: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/X230-expresscard-adressing-eGPU/td-p/792909 Therefore I hope it will be possible, for the T430/T530/W530 owners to receive the same solution. But for that I need the Lenovo staffs attention, ad therefore, your help. head over to my thread at: T430 expresscard adressing (eGPU) - Lenovo Community and leave a comment, if you would like to see a solution in the future. Hopefully in the end, it will be something the bios tech guys pay attention to, in the future bios designs. Thanks in advance - Aatind (Denmark)
  9. This will hopefully be a somewhat useful guide to getting your eGPU working. I will try my best to extend the guide to system configurations outside of my own (that I cannot test). This is only for Windows based systems. I will cover Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1. I have my system (Fujitsu T901) running with an eGPU with Windows 7, Windows 8, and currently Windows 8.1. I will try to be as general as possible, but bear in mind that it is based on getting my system running with an eGPU. So if you have a Fujitsu T901, this will help you get your eGPU setup. Before you continue, make sure you read, re-read, read read read till you get sick of it - the official page: http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/2109-diy-egpu-experiences-%5Bversion-2-0%5D.html This guide is more to show the steps for a single application. Mine just so happens to require all of the troubleshooting steps to get working correctly. Pain to setup, but good for a guide. ---------- For the T901 you will need to have Setup 1.x and will require the following steps (covered in this guide): If you do not want the dGPU active: 32bit compaction with Setup 1.x. If you do want the dGPU active: 36bit compaction of the eGPU with Setup 1.x and a DSDT override is required (whether it is loaded into the registry if you are using Windows 7 or loaded into memory during boot if you are using Windows 8/8.1). This is my system (Fujitsu T901): i7-2620M 16GB RAM NVS 4200M GTX 660 Ti From this: I have a 6-series chipset. 6-series and later (guessing probably all that come later) support PCIe 2.0 ports for use for an eGPU. Essentially - the ExpressCard or mPCIe ports can run at Gen2 speeds. My iGPU in this case would be Intel HD 3000. My dGPU is the Nvidia NVS 4200M. My eGPU is a Nvidia GTX 660 Ti. The RAM amount (since it is over 3.25GB) means that I might run into memory allocation issues (which I do). There are some exceptions to this. ---------- Seeing my laptop has ExpressCard, I got the PE4L-EC060A adapter for use with my eGPU. If you don't have express card, but have a mPCIe slot free (or can be made free by removing your WiFi card), you can get teh PE4L-PM060A. With some testing (MikjoA, naturbo2000, and myself) we determined that getting the 100cm cable doens't hurt performance, longer cables might however. See here: http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/2109-diy-egpu-experiences-%5Bversion-2-0%5D-38.html#post67617 You will need a separate power supply (PSU) to power the eGPU. I use a modular (to cut cable clutter) 550W PSU. Certainly a bit overkill since it is only powering my eGPU. Some people have used the XBOX 360 power supply as well. If you haven't decided on what card you want for your eGPU, you get to read the main post that you are now probably muttering in your sleep. Tech Inferno Fan explains here: http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/2109-diy-egpu-experiences-%5Bversion-2-0%5D.html#whichcard You may need Setup 1.x here (usually a pretty good idea to get this - needed in most situations): http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/2123-diy-egpu-setup-1-x.html I have two videos of me using Setup 1.x here to hopefully help walk through the process: http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/2123-diy-egpu-setup-1-x.html#post78919 ---------- Hardware wise, this it is a fairly simple procedure - especially for ExpressCard applications, mPCIe applications will require an extra few steps not covered here but you can see MikjoA's procedure here: http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/2158-diy-egpu-guide-sony-vaio-vpc-z2-svz13.html Plug power from your external PSU into your eGPU and adapter (floppy connector). And that's about it really. Plug in your PSU and plug your adapter into your computer. Harder part is making your own enclosure. I use a stripped mini-ITX case. Once you have it all plugged in and whatnot. Turn on your laptop and see if it works! Once you get to your desktop, go to device manager. If you don't see any flags on your video card you should be good to go (lucky you ). But..... if you are like me, you will have a whole series of errors. In a nutshell: Error 12 - Memory allocation issue. You might get by with using Setup 1.x to perform PCI compaction to get it working. I perform a DSDT override to get mine working correctly (which I'll cover later). Error 43 - Yay you don't have error 12 (my reaction). Means you need to install the video card driver. ...but if you are like me, it won't go easy. I'll cover this later. ---------- If you see nothing in device manager, check your connections. If that all checks out, make sure your ExpressCard / mPCIe port is active in BIOS. If it is, you either have something going wrong, or an extreme case of error 12. How to (probably) fix error 12: How to (probably) fix error 43: ---------- DSDT override info: Readup here first please: http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/2109-diy-egpu-experiences-%5Bversion-2-0%5D.html#dsdtoverride Link to my guide showing how I performed my DSDT override and how it allowed iGPU+dGPU+eGPU: http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/3539-guide-dsdt-override-simultaneous-igpu-dgpu-egpu.html If you are running Windows 8 or 8.1 you will want to take a look here too: http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/2109-diy-egpu-experiences-%5Bversion-2-0%5D-6.html#post31421 ---------- Upgrading video drivers. --- This pretty much ends this guide. Since you have it all up and running, you are pretty much set. Hope this helped you! ---------- My setup: The pictures were all too big for the forum to handle so just see this imgur album instead: eGPU setup - Imgur 1. eGPU case 2. side pic 3. top view showing awful dremel skills and custom IO shield 4. internal pic. PSU mounted with steel pipe hanger. GPU on modified rubber stoppers and held in place with more steel pipe hanger 5. case is just a smidge too small, so the PCIe power cables poke out a little bit, not much though 6. custom PSU power plug thing 7. shows adapter and ATX switch board, plus my GPU with a little dirty fan... 8. showing it all hooked up, I can reach my finger inside and flip the switch directly on the PSU to turn the eGPU on/off 9. full setup, no laptop 10. full setup, up and running!
  10. Hey guys, I've been lurking these forums for months, and finally decided to get all my parts together after finding a great deal on a Sonnet Echo Express enclosure. My setup is as follows: 13" Retina Macbook Pro Windows 8.1 UEFI booting Sonnet Echo Express Thunderbolt Enclosure EVGA 650 ti w/2GB VRAM So, everything worked great as a proof of concept with a normal ATX power supply so I ordered a 150watt Pico PSU with a 144watt external power brick, as this is the only solution to keeping everything in the original enclosure. I've provided pictures of my setup as well. Now comes the problem. I rewired the power from the sonnet board back into the enclosure to share power with my GPU, so they both power at the same time. This I've found causes Windows to disable onboard Intel graphics and only allows video output through the GPU headers DVI, HDMI. I CAN get it to boot properly If I open the enclosure, and disconnect the 6-pin power connector, and plug it in as soon as I see the loading circle on the Windows 8.1 splash-screen. Full GPU acceleration after that with no issues, and I can run most games on full settings with the resolution set at 1920x1200. So this brings me to my question, has anyone been able to successfully automate a delay to powering the GPU on startup? I've read about the software available for purchase, but it says in the FAQ that it's only recommended for MBR/BIOS booting, which I'm not using. Other threads show that they've gotten it to work, but I'm wondering if it's because they're manually plugging or switching during the boot process. I could add a switch to my box for the 6-pin GPU power, but that would require a 6-pole single throw switch (which i've not found online yet) or three rocker switches that I'd have to throw at the same time on startup each time I wanna boot to this thing! Any suggestions are more than welcome at this point.
  11. Nando asked me to make a thread after I got my eGPU working so here it is. I'll be updating it later with pictures and more info, including more benchmarks. Components 15" Lenovo W530 (Nvidia Quadro K1000m, Intel HD 4000, i7 3740qm 2.7Ghz) PE4L-EC060A 2.1b Expresscard-to-PCIe adapter Sapphire HD 7950 video card @x1 2.0 (Gen2) expresscard bandwidth Corsair CX600 as a PSU cheap Rosewill Mini ATX case as an enclosure Win8/64-bit/Win7/64-bit (Dual boot, works with both) Installation Win8: The software part was a pain but I figured it out so you don't have to. After getting all the hardware working, I went into device manager and disabled the Quadro GPU. I then rebooted, and plugged in the 7950 while the laptop was off. I made sure that Windows didn't automatically install drivers for it. Then I downloaded the latest WHQL drivers for my card, rebooted, opened device manager and disabled the Intel HD4000 graphics. To switch back to either iGPU or dGPU, turn off laptop, unplug 7950, reboot and open device manager. Enable either dGPU or iGPU.You may have to go into BIOS and choose which GPU to use. (I need the Quadro for Solidworks when I'm not using my 7950, so that part is important.) Anyway, that's it. Win7: Same as above, except both GPUs need to be enabled at startup to work properly. An interesting note, on Win7 I can have my Nvidia dGPU running my laptop screen and my AMD eGPU running my external screen at the same time. On Win8 it's one or the other. Benchmarks My card is overclocked to 1150/1600, but I've only run a few benchmarks. Metro LL scores me at 37.4 fps average. For comparison, I saw that similarly overclocked 7950's scored about 40 fps average in a desktop, so performance loss is not as much as I thought it would be. These benches had two purposes, one for the info, and two, to show me that my overclock is 100% stable. Overall I must say, I'm very pleased with performance. I saw some of my scores around those of 680 eGPUs. Summary for comparison against existing implementations being: DX9: 3dmark06=22138 DX10: 3dmkvantage.gpu=28265 DX11: 3dmk11.gpu=8753 DirectX9 DirectX10 DirectX11 Metro:LL benchmark Unigine Heaven 4.0 Here is a screenshot of somebody else's 7950 at the exact same clocks that ran the same benchmark (Heaven 4.0 DX11 maxxed). My score was lower, it was exactly 82.6% of the performance as the desktop counterpart. This goes to show that bandwidth benchmark is about what was expected (~80%, I'm sure more tests would show a bit more variance). GPUZ screenshot showing my overclock, max temps, etc. I actually overloaded my PSU on that run, it's a CX600 with only 46A on the 12v rail but when gaming it doesn't exceed 45A Pictures This is my setup A closer look inside PE4L 2.1b
  12. Hello! I have a HP Pavilion g6 laptop with amd a8-3520m APU. I planning to buy a pe4h adapter with radeon hd 7750, but i dont know how the APU will respond for the egpu. Please help me!
  13. Hi, I just succesfully finished a low profile eGPU setup, I decided to share the experience I had. My goal was to make it as portable as possible but still powerful enough to drive the internal 12.5 inch 1366x768 display of my lenovo x220. The parts I used: PE4L 2.1b + EC2C with EC-060A (l x w) 64 x 47 mm Zalman GTX650 low profile max 64W (l x w x h) 150 x 55 x 35 mm Laptop AC adapter 12v 10a 120w TEKO P/3 small plastic case (l x w x h) 160 x 90 x 60 mm M2 nuts and bols Lenovo X220 with 1.37 bios (Series 6, HD3000) USB to USB cable The GTX650 low profile card is very nice for an internal eGPU setup, its very small and draws only 64W max. This means it can draw its power from the pci-e lane, which provides 75W max. No extra connectors on the videocard. Its still powerfull enough to run games at high/ultra on 1366x768. Ofcourse an atx psu is not an option for portability, so a 12V 10A 120W ac laptop adapter is used (2.5 - 5.5mm plug). The initial installation went pretty smooth, the card got detected and the nvidia drivers installed withouth problems. There was no need to change the tolud size or an dstd override. Settings used pe4l: SW1: 1, SW2: 2-3 Settings used bios: PCI express speed -> automatic, PCI express powermanagement -> off. Unfortunatly I couldn't run a benchmark or game for longer then 3 minutes without a bsod or crash. After some research it turned out the card didnt get a clean 3.3v from the pci-e lane. The fix was to run an usb - usb cable from the laptop to the pe4l for 3.3v power. No more crashes and very stable performance :-) Too bad an extra cable is needed though, portability took a small hit there. A few pics of the case and the setup: Some dremel action for the dvi and hdmi port: More dremel action to run the cable and pci-express card through: Drilled m2 holes to mount the pe4l: pe4l mounted on m2 bolts: Up and running: Need to finish the cover plate and paint the enclosure matte black: And a small video I made: Let me know what you think!
  14. eGPU candidate system list Recommended eGPU adapters/enclosures Thunderbolt (max=16Gbps) US$189 AKiTiO Thunder2 PCIe Box NGFF.M2 PCIe (8Gbps): EXP GDC V6/7 Expresscard_or_mPCIe (max=4Gbps) BPlus PE4C V3.0 Recommended systems: 6th gen Skylake | 4th gen Haswell | 3rd gen Ivy Bridge | 2nd gen Sandy Bridge Units with a Thunderbolt or ExpressCard slot/port or with a user contributed mPCIe eGPU implementations are listed below. These are all Sandy Bridge or newer offering faster 5GT/s-per-lane PCIe 2.0 mPCIe/ExpressCard slots than previous 1st gen i-core and Core2Duo systems using only PCIe 1.x 2.5GT/s slots. The cost effective ExpressCard is a dying standard. This means future eGPU implementations will be using either the mPCIe (WLAN) or Thunderbolt port. mPCIe present additional issues: the slot may be a whitelisted slot requiring third party program or booting with wifi, then swapping it out to activate it. mPCIe also adds the hassle of cabling it via underside covers with no concurrent wifi unless get a USB stick wifi. Note too that a USB 3.0 DIY eGPU product isn't likely to happen due to USB-to-pcie driver issues. The highest performance eGPU solution is one using a Thunderbolt port. Though TB1's 10Gbps doubling of bandwidth questionable value over the the cost effective expresscard solutions. TB2's 16Gbps is however a worthy upgrade the only problem being the lack of notebooks with TB2 ports. Expresscard/mPCIe systems are capable of attaching very low cost eGPUs, eg: GTX650 for Pre-purchase FAQ -> 2. How can I check if my notebook is compatible with an eGPU?. Refer to Pre-purchase FAQ and Getting Started guides on the main page to identify what parts are required for an eGPU setup. Key TB3 : 40Gbps "Thunderbolt 3" (~x4 3.0) - 96%-99% of x16 2.0 desktop performance TB2 : 16Gbps "Thunderbolt 2" (x4 2.0) - 88%-94% of x16 2.0 desktop performance TB : 10Gbps "Thunderbolt 1" (~x2 2.0 + 12.5%) - 73%-86% of x16 2.0 desktop performance EC or mPCIe : 5Gbps (x1 2.0) expresscard or mini PCIe slot eGPU interface. Systems with an Intel iGPU and NVidia Fermi/Keplar/Maxwell sees the NVidia Optimus driver implement x1 pci-e compression, accelerating DX9 performance by 100-300%. This is referred to as x1.2Opt (Opt=Optimus) in the DIY eGPU documentation. .......... : recommended lightest or most powerful in that LCD size class purple : ULV notebook or ultrabook. Ultrabooks come with a non-removable lower-capacity li-po battery and mSATA SSD. $ : Add US$14-delivered slim USB DVD if require an optical disk drive. Skylake, 6th generation 14nm i-core (2015) Thunderbolt3 equipped eGPU candidate notebooks by @zacsaturday (google docs link) System ($=no internal ODD) eGPU impl? Weight/dimensions/dGPU 11.6" Macbook Air$ TB2 2.38lbs (1.08kgs). 0.64" thick. 13" Macbook Air$ TB2 2.96lbs (1.35kgs). 0.68" thick. 900P 16:10. 13" Macbook Pro Retina$ TB2 3.46lbs (1.57kgs). 0.71" thick. 1600P. Haswell, 4th generation 22nm i-core (2013) Haswell's ~30% battery life gains over Ivy Bridge are only within the ULV platform which, for the first time, integrates the chipset on the CPU die. The full-powered (37W/47W M/MQ/HQ CPUs) Series-8 platform sees very little performance or battery life gains over Ivy Bridge. Anybody requiring i7-quad performance may wish to look at the more extensive and affordable Ivy Bridge range instead. .nobrtable br { display: none } .tablesmallfonts td {font-size: xx-small System ($=no internal ODD) eGPU impl? Weight/dimensions/dGPU 11.6" Macbook Air$ TB & 2.38lbs (1.08kgs). 0.64" thick. 13" Macbook Air$ TB 2.96lbs (1.35kgs). 0.68" thick. 900P 16:10. 13" Toshiba R30 EC 3.40lbs (1.55kgs). 1.00" thick. 13" Macbook Pro Retina$ TB2 3.46lbs (1.57kgs). 0.71" thick. 1600P. 12" Fujitsu T734 tablet EC 3.96lbs (1.80kgs). 1.48" thick. i7-quad option.. 15" Dell M3800$ TB2 4.15lbs (1.88kgs). 0.71" thick. i7-quad, K1100M, 2160P-IPS/1080P. 15" MSI WS60 2OJ$ TB2 4.18lbs (1.90kgs). 0.78" thick. i7-quad, K2100M, 1620P-IPS/1080P. 14" Razer Blade$ mPCIe 4.19lbs (1.90kgs). 0.70" thick. i7-quad, GTX970M, 1800P/1080P. 15" Macbook Pro Retina$ TB2 4.46lbs (2.02kgs). 0.71" thick. i7-quad, GT750M, 1800P. Avoid GT750M model if want internal LCD mode per details &. 15" ASUS G501$ TB2 4.54lbs (2.06kgs). 0.81" thick. i7-quad, GTX960M 2160P. 14" Dell E6440 EC 4.68lbs (2.12kgs). 1.25" thick. i7-quad, HD8690M option, RAID-0 storage, 1080P/900P. 14" Lenovo L440 EC 4.98lbs (2.26kgs). 1.04" thick. i7-quad, NGFF M.2 slot, 900P. NOTE: TOLUD=3.5GB 14" Dell Latitude E5440 EC 5.06lbs (2.30kgs). 1.10" thick. 900P, GT720M options.. 15" Lenovo T540p EC 5.45lbs (2.48kgs). 1.06" thick. i7-quad, GT730M, NGFF M.2 slot, 1620/1080P. 15" Lenovo W540 TB + EC 5.57lbs (2.53kgs). 1.06" thick. i7-quad, NV Quadro, NGFF M.2 slot, 1620/1080P. 15 MSI GE60 mPCIe 5.60lbs (2.55kgs). 1.46" thick. i7-quad, GTX860M, 1080P 15" Dell E6540 EC 5.64lbs (2.56kgs). 1.31" thick. i7-quad, HD8790M, 1080P. 15" Dell M2800 EC 5.64lbs (2.56kgs). 1.31" thick. i7-quad, M4710, 1080P. 15" Lenovo W541 TB2 + EC 5.57lbs (2.53kgs). 1.06" thick. i7-quad, NV Quadro, NGFF M.2 slot, 1620/1080P. 15" Lenovo L540 EC 5.50lbs (2.50kgs). 1.22" thick. i7-quad, NGFF M.2 slot, 1080P. 15" Toshiba A50 EC 5.72lbs (2.60kgs). 1.37" thick. 37W Dual-core, GT730M, 1080P, non-US market? 15" Toshiba W50 EC 5.95lbs (2.70kgs). 1.37" thick. i7-quad, K2100M, 1080P. 15" HP ZBook 15 G2 TB2 + EC 6.20lbs (2.82kgs). 1.20" thick. i7-quad, K2100M/M5100, PCIe SSD slot, 1800P. Faulty EC slot!! 15" Dell Precision 4800 EC 6.34lbs (2.88kgs). 1.37" thick. i7-quad, M5100/K2100M, 1080P/1800P. 17" HP ZBook 17 G2 TB2 + EC 7.70lbs (3.50kgs). 1.33" thick. i7-quad, K5100M/M6100, PCIe SSD slot, 1080P. Faulty EC slot!! 17" Dell Precision 6800 EC 7.85lbs (3.57kgs). 1.59" thick. i7-quad, M6100/K5100M, 1080P. 17" ASUS G751JLW$ TB 8.40lbs (3.82kgs). 1.70" thick. i7-quad, GTX965M 1080P. 17" Clevo P375SM TB 8.82lbs (4.01kgs). 2.16" thick. i7-quad, GTX780M/HD8970M. 1080P. No iGPU. 17" Sager NP9390 TB 8.82lbs (4.01kgs). 2.16" thick. i7-quad, GTX780M-SLI/HD8970M-XF/GTX765M. 1080P. No iGPU. 17" ASUS G75VW/G750JW TB 9.90lbs (4.50kgs). 2.05" thick. i7-quad, GTX765M. 1080P. Don't have expresscard/TB: Lenovo X240s/X240/T440s/T440p, HP 820/840/850 G1 (replaces 2570P/8470P/8570P), Dell XPS 11, Gigabyte P35K Note: NGFF M.2 may be SATA or pci-e. Only pci-e versions are useful for eGPU purposes. REF: Understanding M.2 NGFF SSD Standardization (Or The Lack Of) | The SSD Review Ivy Bridge, 3rd generation 22nm i-core (2012) If require longest possible battery life then recommend a Haswell ULV system shown in purple. If wanting i7-quad performance then note that Ivy Bridge runs cooler than Haswell as discussed in http://forum.techinferno.com/throttlestop-realtemp-discussion/6958-haswell-step-backwards-ivy-bridge-i-have-some-shocking-tdp-results.html#post95181 . Ivy Bridge are currently the best bang-per-buck eGPU candidate systems. System ($=no internal ODD) eGPU impl? Weight/dimensions/dGPU 11.6" Macbook Air$ TB 2.38lbs (1.08kgs). 0.64" thick. 13" Sony_SVZ$ mPCIe 2.60lbs (1.18kgs). 0.66" thick. 1080P. i7-quad, RAID-0, Lightpeak port, HD7670M. 13" Acer S5$ TB 2.70lbs (1.20kgs). 0.6" thick. 13" Macbook Air$ TB 2.96lbs (1.35kgs). 0.68" thick. 900P 16:10. 13" Toshiba R930 EC 3.26lbs (1.48kgs). 1.00" thick. 12" Fujitsu P702$ EC 3.30lbs (1.50kgs). 1.26" thick. 1280x800 LCD. 12" Lenovo X230$ EC 3.40lbs (1.55kgs). 1.36" thick. IPS LCD option. mSATA. NOTE: eGPU probs with 16GB RAM. 12" Dell E6230$ EC 3.50lbs (1.59kgs). 0.97" thick. IPS LCD mod. 13" Macbook Pro retina$ TB 3.57lbs (1.62kgs) 0.75" thick 1600P. 13" Sony SB mPCIe 3.74lbs (1.70kgs). 0.95" thick. GT640M-LE/900P option. 11" Clevo W110ER mPCIe 3.80lbs (1.73kgs). 1.50" thick. i7-quad, GT650. 14" Lenovo T430s TB + EC 3.89lbs (1.77kgs). 1.02" thick. NVS5200M. 900P. Thunderbolt on i7 models. 13" Clevo W130EW EC 3.92lbs (1.78kgs). 1.26" thick. i7-quad option. 14" Lenovo S430 TB 4.08lbs (1.85kgs). 0.94" thick. GT620/900P option 12" HP 2570P EC 4.20lbs (1.90kgs). 1.29" thick. i7-quad cpu and RAID-0 storage upgradable. 13" Acer P633-M$ EC 4.20lbs (1.90kgs). 0.98" thick. i7-quad. 14" Toshiba R940 EC 4.20lbs (1.91kgs). 1.00" thick. HD7570M/900P opt. HD7570M opt is not switchable gfx. 13" Dell E6330 EC 4.29lbs (1.95kgs). 1.2" thick. 15" Macbook Pro Retina$ TB 4.46lbs (2.02kgs). 0.7" thick. i7-quad, GT650M, 1800P. PROB: iGPU not accessible in Win. 15" Acer V3 571G$ mPCIe 4.46lbs (2.02kgs). 1.0" thick. i7-quad, GT640M/GT730M, 1080P. 13" Macbook Pro TB 4.50bs (2.06kgs) 0.95" thick. 15" HP Spectre XT Touch$ TB 4.77lbs (2.17kgs). 0.70" thick. 1080P-IPS. 14" MISC PREMIUM BUSINESS EC HP 6470B/8470P(no dGPU), Lenovo T430, Dell E6430. i7-quad, NVS5200M(~GT550M), 900P. 14" Dell Vostro 3460 mPCIe 4.92lbs (2.23kgs). 1.19" thick. i7-quad upgradable. 15" Fujitsu AH532 EC 5.25lbs (2.40kgs). 1.43" thick. GT640M-LE, i7-quad . 15" HP Probook 4540s 'mPCIe 5.29lbs (2.40kgs). 1.34" thick. i7-quad. 15" Fujitsu A512 EC 5.50lbs (2.50kgs). 1.44" thick. i7-quad upgradable. 14" Asus G46VW TB 5.50lbs (2.50kgs). 0.86" thick. 900P, GTX660M, i7-quad option. option. 15.4" Macbook Pro TB 5.60lbs (2.56 kg). 0.95" thick. i7-quad, GT650M. 900P (16:10). PROB: iGPU not accessible in Win. 15" ENVY DV6T-7300 mPCIe 5.66lbs (2.57kgs). 1.16" thick. i7-quad 15" Acer P453 EC 5.72lbs (2.60kgs). 1.00" thick. i7-quad upgradable 15" Lenovo G500 mPCIe 5.76lbs (2.62kgs). 1.02" thick. i7-quad upgradable, HD8750M option 15" Dell Vostro 3560 EC 5.75lbs (2.61kgs). 1.28" thick. i7-quad, HD7670M. 1080P. 15" Lenovo Z580 mPCIe 5.94lbs (2.65kgs). 1.30" thick. i7-quad upgradable, GT640M option 15" MISC PREMIUM BUSINESS EC HP 6570B/8570P(no dGPU), Lenovo W530/T530, Dell E6530/M4700. i7-quad, M4000(~HD7750M), K2000M (~GT640M), 900P/1080P. 17" MSI GE70 mPCIe 5.96lbs (2.71kgs). 1.54" thick. i7-quad, GTX660M. 1080P. 17" Fujitsu NH532 EC 6.60lbs (3.00kgs). 1.79" thick. i7-quad, GT640M-LE, 900P/1080P. 15" Acer V3-571G mPCIe 7.05lbs (3.02kgs). 1.31" thick. i7-quad. 15" Clevo P150EM mPCIe 7.08lbs (3.22kgs). 2.01" thick. i7-quad, GTX670/HD7970, 1080P. 17" Acer V3-771G mPCIe 7.21lbs (3.27kgs). 1.54" thick. i7-quad, GT650M, 900P. 17" Dell M6700 EC 7.77lbs (3.50kgs). 1.46" thick. i7-quad, M6000 (~HD7850)/K3000M/K4000M/K5000M. 1080P. 15" ASUS G55VW TB 8.40lbs (3.80kgs). 2.00" thick. i7-quad, GTX660M. 1080P. no iGPU. NOTE: The HP Probook 4x40s and Lenovo Ex30 low cost business notebooks no longer have expresscard slots in the Ivy Bridge series. Sandy Bridge, 2nd generation 32nm i-core (2011) The hosting Series-6 chipset has, for the first time, pci-e 2.0 connectivity on the Southbridge that host the expresscard or mPCIe slot. There is no USB 3.0 integrated on the chipset so any machines that come with USB 3.0 typically attach a Renesas USB 3.0 controller on the Southbridge. i7-quad users note: Ivy Bridge improves on Sandy Bridge by using more efficient 22nm tech compared to 32nm used in Sandy Bridge. Typically i7-quad Sandy Bridge CPUs will see significant TDP throttling where it only reaches a x27 multiplier in 4-core mode and consumes 10-14W more power under load as discussed. Meaning it's maximum performance is considerably lower than an Ivy Bridge CPU at the same power limit!! For that reason I recommend the Ivy Bridge range for best performance. System ($=no internal ODD) eGPU impl? Weight/dimensions/dGPU 10" Panasonic J10$ EC 2.35lbs (1.07kgs). 1.38" thick. 11.6" Macbook Air$ TB 2.38lbs (1.08kgs). 0.64" thick. . 13" Sony_Z2$ mPCIe 2.60lbs (1.18kgs). 0.66" thick. 900P/1080P. Raid-0, Lightpeak port HD6650M. 13" Macbook Air$ TB 2.96lbs (1.35kgs). 0.68" thick. 900P 16:10. . 12" Fujitsu P771 EC 3.10lbs (1.41kgs). 1.18" thick. 1280x800 LCD. 13" Fujitsu SH76 EC 3.20lbs (1.45kgs). 0.91" thick. 12" Lenovo X220$ EC 3.20lbs (1.45kgs). 1.36" thick. IPS LCD option. mSATA. Req bios 1.23+. 13" Toshiba R830 EC 3.26lbs (1.48kgs). 1.00" thick. NOTE: SATA-II capping. 12" Fujitsu P701$ EC 3.30lbs (1.50kgs). 1.02" thick. 1280x800 LCD. 12" Asus B23E$ EC 3.40lbs (1.55kgs). 1.1" thick. Boston Power Sonata 48Whr 3cell. 12" Dell E6220$ EC 3.50lbs (1.59kgs). 0.97" thick. IPS LCD mod. 13" Sony SA mPCIe 3.71lbs (1.69kgs). 0.95" thick. HD6630M/900P option. 12" Samsung Series-4 EC 3.83lbs (1.74kgs). 1.3" thick. 13" Fujitsu S761 EC 3.85lbs (1.75kgs). 1.26" thick. GT520M option. 12" HP 2760P tablet$ EC 3.97lbs (1.80kgs). 1.27" thick. AFFS 1280x800 LCD option. 14" Lenovo T420s EC 4.03lbs (1.83kgs). 1.05" thick. NVS4200M/900P option. mSATA. Req bios 1.30+ 13" Fujitsu SH561 EC 4.18lbs (1.90kgs). 1.40" thick. GT520M 14" Fujitsu LH701 EC 4.18lbs (1.90kgs). 1.27" thick. GT520M 14" Toshiba R840 EC 4.20lbs (1.91kgs). 1.00" thick. HD6450M/900P opt. HD6450M opt is not switchable gfx.SATA-II capped. 12" HP 2560P EC 4.24lbs (1.92kgs). 1.29" thick. i7-quad capable. 13" Dell E6320 EC 4.29lbs (1.95kgs). 1.2" thick. 12" Fujitsu T731 tablet EC 4.40lbs (2.00kgs). 1.54" thick.. 13" Macbook Pro TB 4.50lbs (2.04kgs). 0.95" thick. 1280x800 LCD. . 14" HP DM4T mPCIe 4.50lbs (2.04kgs). 1.27" thick. HD7470M option. 900P. 13" HP 6360B EC 4.65lbs (2.11kgs). 1.33" thick. 13" HP 4330s EC 4.70lbs (2.13kgs). 1.10" thick. HD6490M option. i7-quad capable. 13" Fujitsu T901 tablet EC 4.73lbs (2.16kgs). 1.42" thick. NVS4200M option. i7-quad capable. 14" Lenovo Y470 mPCIe 4.85lbs (2.20kgs). 1.29" thick. GT550M. mSATA, i7-quad option. 900P LCD swapout. 62Whr 6-cell. 14" Lenovo Z470 mPCIe 4.85lbs (2.20kgs). 1.34" thick. GT540M. 14" Lenovo Y460p EC 4.85lbs (2.20kgs). 1.33" thick. HD6550M. mSATA. i7-quad option.. Not switchable gfx 14" HP 4430s EC 4.88lbs (2.22kgs). 1.12" thick. HD6490M option. 14" HP DV4-3000 mPCIe 4.88lbs (2.22kgs). 1.43" thick. HD6750M. 14" Dell E5420 EC 5.06lbs (2.30kgs). 1.28" thick. 900P option. 14" Lenovo L420 EC 5.06lbs (2.30kgs). 1.26" thick. 14" HP 6460B EC 5.09lbs (2.31kgs). 1.34" thick. HD6470M/900P option. No switchable gfx! 14" MISC PREMIUM BUSINESS EC Lenovo T420, Dell E6420, HP 8460P(no dGPU). i7-quad, NVS4200M(~GT520M), 900P. 14" Lenovo E420 EC 5.25lbs (2.39kgs). 1.43" thick. HD6630M option. mSATA. 15" MSI GE620DX mPCIe 5.28lbs (2.40kgs). 1.27" thick. i7-quad, 1920x1080, GT555M option. 15" Lenovo V570 mPCIe 5.29lbs (2.40kgs). 0.99" thick. i7-quad option. 14" Dell Vostro 3450 EC 5.35lbs (2.43kgs). 1.28" thick. HD6630M option. 14" Toshiba M645 EC 5.40lbs (2.45kgs). 1.39" thick. 14" Fujitsu S751 EC 5.40lbs (2.45kgs). 1.46" thick. 900P option. 14" Asus B43 EC 5.46lbs (2.48kgs) 1.38" thick. 15" Fujitsu E751 EC 5.50lbs (2.50kgs). 1.38" thick. 900P option. 15" Fujitsu AH531 EC 5.50lbs (2.50kgs). 1.43" thick. GT525M 15" HP 4530s EC 5.55lbs (2.51kgs). 1.12" thick. HD6490M option. 900P/1080P LCD user upgrade. 15" Acer 5750G / 5755G mPCIe & 5.60lbs (2.54 kg). 1.00" thick. i7-quad, GT540M. 15.4" Macbook Pro TB 5.60lbs (2.54 kg). 0.95" thick. HD6750M. 900P (16:10). PROB: iGPU not accessible in Win. 15" Acer 8573G EC 5.61lbs (2.55 kg). 1.22" thick. GT540M. 15" Samsung RF511 mPCIe 5.72lbs (2.60kgs). 1.0" thick. GT540M. i7-quad option.. 15" Lenovo Z570 mPCIe 5.72lbs (2.60kgs). 1.00" thick. GT540M. 15" Asus A53SV mPCIe 5.72lbs (2.60kgs). 1.37" thick. GT540M. i7-quad option.. 15" HP DV6T mPCIe 5.78lbs (2.63kgs). 1.39" thick. HD6770M. 1080P option. 47Whr 6-cell. 15" Lenovo Y570 mPCIe 5.94lbs (2.70kgs). 1.00" thick. GT555M. i7-quad option. 15" MISC PREMIUM BUSINESS EC HP 6560B/8560P(no dGPU), Lenovo W520/T520, Dell E6520/M4600. 900P/1080P. 15" Lenovo Y560p EC 5.94lbs (2.70kgs). 1.33" thick. HD6570M. mSATA. i7-quad option.. Not switchable gfx 15" Dell M4600 EC 6.15lbs (2.79kgs). 1.44" thick. M5950 (~HD6770M). 900P/1080P. 15" Dell XPS L502x mPCIe 6.33lbs (2.87kgs). 1.50" thick. GT540M. 1080P. 17" Dell Vostro 3750 EC 6.62lbs (3.00kgs). 1.46" thick. GT525M. 900P. 17" Dell M6600 EC 7.77lbs (3.50kgs). 1.46" thick. 1080P. M8900 (~HD6970M)/2000M/3000M/4000M/5010M. 17" Dell XPS L702x mPCIe 7.92lbs (3.60kgs). 1.50" thick. GT555M. 1080P. 17" Fujitsu NH751 EC 8.16lbs (3.71kgs). 1.79" thick. 1080P. GT525M.
  15. Hi, this thread will be my "Blog" of the experiences and troubles with my S430 and the eGPU Setup. I am currently collecting the pictures and make videos of how I build my case. Updates will come regularly. Update from 12.06.2013: Hey, I got my PE4L 2.1b mod to work. Sadly I rarely have issues with the connection. I think that a downgrade to Gen1 link speed could fix the issue. Bplus now has a cable for the PE4H 2.4 that will allow me to run Gen2 and lucky as I am I was able to get my hands on a Cheap PE4H 2.4 from ebay. I also purchased the new cable from BPlus already. The plans about my case have also changed, I wanted to make a metal one and already had the plans layed out. But with the announcemend of payable Thunderbolt adapters in (hopefully) early 2014 I decided to just make a "cheap" case for these 6 Months that I'll use it. When the cases that come with the Thunderbolt adapter do not fit my needs I'll use the materials and layouts I gathered/made to make a metal case for the Thunderbolt eGPU solution. I will also make some minor changes to the XBOX 360 PSU. So until my new hardware arrives in approx. two weeks there will be no updates. Sorry. Until then Lets start with my System specs: Lenovo S430 3364-57G Core I7 3520M 2 x 2,9Ghz HT 2x 4GB Hyundai DDR3 1600Mhz Plextor 128GB M5S Travelstar Z7K500 500GB Intel HD4000 Zotac GTX 560 Multiview Windows 7 64bit Professional eGPU Setup Specs: PE4L 2.1b with PM3N XBOX 360 Power Brick 203 Watt ( 12V @ 16,5A = 198W , 5Vsb @ 1A = 5W ) DELOCK HUB USB 2.0 4 Port ext. ZSlimZ Molex wire from an old PC PSU Diagnostic Tools: Imgur album: Lenovo S430 eGPU with GTX560 - Imgur 1.2opt ≈368MiB/s H -> D ( ≈ 385MB/s ≈ 77% of 2.0 x1 ) ≈403MiB/s D -> H ( ≈ 422MB/s ≈ 84,5% of 2.0 x1 ) Benchmarks: 3DMark06 -- 20584 ≈ 80% of 25800 3DMark -- Ice Storm: 86378 ≈76% of 113619 ---- Graphics: 125785 ≈ 82,5% of 152566 ---- Physics: 41201 -- Cloudgate: 9652 ≈ 55% of 17605 ---- Graphics: 20463 ≈ 93% of 21922 ---- Physics: 3388 -- Fire Strike: 2398 ≈ 87,5% of 2738 ---- Graphics: 2638 ≈ 91% of 2886 ---- Physics: 4834 ---- Combined: 984 -- 3DMark11 3706 ≈ 91% of 4060 ---- Graphics: 3645 ---- Physics: 4222 ---- Combined: 3507 Software DSDT Override: Windows 8 DSDT Override: I tried, I read several guides on the topic, because I didn't want to setup a new OS, but I haven't found the solution, I experimented a bit myself, but to no avail. Windows 7 DSDT Override: File: DSDT Override + S430.zip The file contains a guide in german aswell. Die Datei enthält auch eine Deutsche Anleitung. DSDT Override for Lenovo S430 (3364-57G) and other Notebooks ===================================================== There is a short guide for the S430 and a long one for other Notebooks. USE AT OWN RISK. NO WARRANTY! If you have a S430 (3364-57G) and Windows 7 installed: Step 1: Open CMD in Admin Mode. Windowskey -> type "cmd" -> right click on it -> start as admin. Step 2: Navigate to this directory. Step 3: Type "asl /loadtable DSDT-S430.aml" into the commandline. Step 4: Reboot. Check Device Manager -> view -> resource by connection. If you have a "Large Memory" entry now, you're done. ===================================================== ===================================================== If you have no Lenovo S430 you have to go the full way. Step 1: Open your Device Manager and click on view -> ressources by connection. Step 2: Search for the last "PCI bus" entry. It should have a lot of subentries, including "Motherboard resources". Step 3: Write down or memorise the last digits of the second value inside the brackets. e.g. Entry: [00000000BFA00000 - 00000000FEAFFFFF] PCI bus Value to memorise would be "FEAFFFFF". Step 4: Open CMD in Admin Mode. Windowskey -> type "cmd" -> right click on it -> start as admin. Step 5: Navigate to this directory. Step 6: Type "iasl -g" into the command line. You should have some new files in your directory now. One of them should end with ".dsl". Step 7: Open the .dsl file with the editor. Step 8: Press STRG + F and search for the memorised value. Step 10: You will see a bunch of "DWordMemory" Methods, go to the end of that list, put your cursor behind the last "TypeStatic)" ( yes after the bracket ) press Enter and now copy the following at the place: QWordMemory (ResourceProducer, PosDecode, MinFixed, MaxFixed, Cacheable, ReadWrite, 0x0000000000000000, // Granularity 0x0000000C20000000, // Range Minimum, set it to 48.5GB 0x0000000E0FFFFFFF, // Range Maximum, set it to 56.25GB 0x0000000000000000, // Translation Offset 0x00000001F0000000, // Length calculated by Range Max - Range Min. ,, , AddressRangeMemory, TypeStatic) It should look like this: Now indent if you like for better readability. ( Notice the Method you inserted is a 64bit QWordMemory not DWordMemory ) Step 11: Go to the top of the textfile, you should see two lines that start with "AHCI" delete both and save the file. Step 12: Switch to the command line again. Type "iasl <name of="" the="" file="" you="" got=""><dsl file="" name="">.dsl". Step 13: Check the output, if there are 0 Errors you are fine if not check some DSDT sites like: DIY eGPU experiences - Page 1003 tonymacx86 Don't forget to thank them for their efforts. Step 14: If you got 0 Errors you'll get a "DSDT.aml" file. Type "asl /loadtable DSDT.aml" into the command line. Step 15: Reboot. Check Device Manager -> view -> resource by connection. If you have a "Large Memory" entry now, you're done. Hardware & Case XBOX360 PowerBrick: Q: Won't 198W be too much for a Molex wire to handle? Aren't you afraid of cable fire? A: Yes you are right, 198Watt would be too much for a single Molex wire, but I have a GTX560 that just consumes 150Watt. Molex oficially handles up to 11A per lane, what would make 132W on the 12V lane. I know I am slightly above that and tested the wire heat while my GPU was on maximum Load during a 3DMark benchmark. it got warm, but far from Hot. I would guess that the single 12V cable had about 26°-30°C and I decided that this is okay for me. Edit: I tested the temperature with a device now, the cables surface got 24,3°C warm. So please keep 11A per lane in mind and be careful! Cable fire is very dangerous. Test thoroughly beforehand! Q: Why do 5Vsb and PSU Enable go into the red lane? A: When you plug in the XBOX PSU it will be on standby and only provide 5V on the 5Vsb lane ( Vsb = Volt Standby ), to wake the PSU up there must be a 1,5V to 5V current on the PSU Enable lane. Only then you'll have power on the 12V lane to power your GPU. Q: Why did you seperate the GND lanes? A: I noticed that the 3 lanes get a bit too thick for my shrinking hose, so I split it up. The thinner wires handle up to 8A per lane and my GPU needs 12,5A so I am safe with my GTX560 in this case. The male Molex connector is connected with the female one on the XBOX PSU. The female connectors are for the PCI-E power adapters and the female floppy for the PE4L. I just cut them off from an old ATX PSU. Discontinued attempts PE4L Socket and Plug: I tried to connect the PE4L via a HDMI cable to get more mobility. Sadly it didn't work. I soldered everything right, but it seems that the impedance of 4 soldered bridges and one HDMI connection is too much. Here are some pictures: Photo Album - Imgur Ferrit Cores for the PCI-EMM060B Cable: Short: It didn't work no Gen2 Speeds: to be continued...</dsl></name>
  16. Please ask for support in the main DSDT Override or DIY eGPU Experiences Thread. I have been out of the eGPU realm for too long to provide adequate support. Here is a guide to performing a DSDT override with hopefully less misery, and setting up your computer to have your iGPU, dGPU, and eGPU working at the same time! Oh boy this is going to be fun. This is my system specs (Fujitsu T901): i7-2620M 16GB RAM NVS 4200M GTX 660 Ti Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Now it begins.. Disconnect your eGPU until I say so. If you can, you should perform a DSDT override. The method shown in the official thread was really hard at How to perform a DSDT override: Now for the fun part........ Disconnect your eGPU Uninstall ALL (ALL MEANS ALL) (dGPU included!!!) Nvidia drivers (keep the Intel graphics driver) Use Driver Sweeper and check all the Nvidia options, run, reboot, turn off computer -- don't install the driver for the dGPU yet Connect eGPU and go to Setup 1.x Set your eGPU port to G2 (assuming your have an adapter that supports G2, and your computer as well - if not, then skip setting the port to G2) dGPU off 32-bitA compaction for iGPU eGPU chainload to your OS Windows may yell at you to reboot due to hardware changes, don't quite yet Check device manager, you might (I did) have error 43 Attempt to install the latest Nvidia drivers for you eGPU -- still don't install drivers for your dGPU If your lucky, it will install, if not: shutdown/reboot Setup 1.x do the same as before (dGPU off and such) Attempt to install the Nvidia drivers again for your eGPU After a few hours of fiddling around, you should get them installed (keep your dGPU off this whole time) ONLY AFTER YOU GET YOUR eGPU DRIVERS INSTALLED!! (and as such, error 12 in device manager) Go to Setup 1.x Set port G2 on your eGPU port (again, if you support G2) 32-bitA compaction for iGPU dGPU eGPU (or choose 36-bit if you performed a DSDT override) chainload You will probably get the reboot due to new devices again, but before you do, check device manager Might have a generic VGA device or something instead of the NVS 4200M Attempt to install the drivers for you dGPU now If no luck, reboot and do the same Setup 1.x as before (with dGPU on) Attempt to install dGPU drivers again Reboot after you get your dGPU drivers installed Keep the same Setup 1.x method If your lucky you should have your iGPU dGPU and eGPU show up fine in device manager. You can go to the Nvidia control panel and dedicate your dGPU as your PhysX processor, it works really well. (If you play stuff that supports PhysX and have an at least somewhat useful dGPU) ------------------------------------ I hope this helps. ^ over 20 hrs of fiddling around well spent ;-; ------------------------------------ HOW TO: Update drivers (probably): Note: You can check your driver version for both your eGPU and dGPU in the System Information dialogue box under 'Help' in the NVIDIA Control Panel (you can even check your Bus here too (PCI Express x1 Gen2 as shown for my eGPU). Results::::: iGPU + dGPU + eGPU dGPU PhysX dedicated: WEI: ALL THE MONITORS (and all different resolutions too ): Weeee~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Check out a video here:
  17. Hey guys, I'm cross posting from macrumors because I think everyone here has better experience with setting PCI registers and implementing EFI for Windows 8 in a mac setting. So I've installed windows 8 through EFI, no bootcamp (emulated bios setup). Current setup: Macbook Air mid 2012, Windows 8 EFI. Problems right now: 1) No Audio. I've tried everything -- downloaded newest intel drivers and tried to force the HD Audio Controller driver to update using the intel DisplayAudio folder driver as mentioned here by gophermobile http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...1427082&page=2 Does not work. Windows rejects the driver saying: "The folder you specified doesn't contain a compatible software driver for your device. If the folder contains a driver, make sure it is designed to work with Windows for x64-based systems." (Yes the driver is for 64 bit, straight from Intel's website). Note that I had to use the Have Disk option in device manager, because simply doing "update driver" leads windows to reject the update saying its already gotten the newest drivers. Tried this same Have Disk method to manually install Cirrus Drivers extracted from the Bootcamp drivers, and still the same error. 2) Intel Graphics HD4000 drivers not working. Using basic windows graphics driver which means that graphics is severely impeded. Anyone got a working solution for this? There has been mentions of setting PCI registers and all this nonsense but not sure if that is working. I'm pretty sure these are the 2 MAIN problems. Has ANYONE been able to resolve these? Let's solve these now, especially with the new Bootcamp 5 drivers out. I'm wondering if this can all be solved using the PCI register. This is something I am highly unfamiliar with, but is it possible to set the PCI registers so the drivers identify the HD4000 intel graphics and the Cirrus Audio properly?
  18. In a pinch for time, so can't write very much. PE4L is better, due to lower price. Both PE4L 2.1 and PE4H 3.2 have 1.2 Opt support. 1. Both will work, PE4L and PE4H are basically like the PCI slot on a desktop motherboard - you plug GPU into this, and connect other components to the PE4L/PE4H 2. Yes, as stated above, boith PE4L and PE4H will work. PE4L 2.1 or PE4H 3.2, PE4L is recommended due to lower price 3. Yes hope someone else can re-address your questions and explain better. Just wanted to give you quick answers to you have a general idea.
  19. First off, i'd like to thank Nando for all his work helping bring eGPUs to the masses. On to the post: The short of it: Where I once had a DVD drive that I barely used, I now have 3 low power USB ports and a convenient eGPU port. I’ve designed a caddy of my own in order to manage the new components. Full photo set: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.193840844073776.17933.193579380766589&type=1 The long of it: This began as a simple 2nd HDD/DVD caddy swap. The more I thought about it however the more the fact that the HDD was physically smaller than the DVD drive, which ultimately meant unused space started to bother me. Incidentally I was also working on getting an eGPU set up but didn’t like the idea of having to take off the 2nd battery and bottom plate off each time I wanted to use the eGPU. The eGPU hardware connects via the mini PCIe slot where the Wi-Fi card is. So I decided to try to permanently embed the eGPU connection alongside a 2nd HDD where the DVD drive used to be. This threw a new wrinkle into the equation, since a permanent eGPU connection would mean disconnecting my wlan permanently. My solution was to go with a USB dongle for my wireless connection. New problem, where to find the USB connection….and where to hide the dongle. The last thing I wanted was to have it sticking out the side of the computer all the time. So the dongle also had to go into the caddy space. As to the USB connection, well there’s a wwan slot I never use right next to the caddy. While most wwan cards are physically a mini PCIe format and connection, they really work via USB. I found a card which breaks out the USB connection to flying leads (mentioned in the parts list below) and planned on using that to get my USB connection for the Wi-Fi dongle. New problem, most wwan mPCIe ports carry USB signal but not power. The port on the SB works like this. So where do I get 5v from? I could run the port power in parallel from one of the USB ports on the right side of the computer, but those make for some long leads and are difficult to run back to the caddy area. The only easily available source of power on the left hand side is the SATA connection itself. And that was my "aha" moment. I tend to use my laptop as a laptop when on the road but when at home it’s really working as a desktop. I’ve got a few USB peripherals and a screen I connect it to, plus the aforementioned eGPU. Ultimately I decided that I wanted more USB ports and a convenient eGPU port on the left side of the machine more than I wanted a 2nd hard drive. So I replaced the hard drive in the mod with a USB hub, with enough power to run the wlan dongle, an Asus Xonar USB soundcard, thumbdrives, peripheral dongles (Logitech universal, and Microsoft keyboard, etc.) It won’t power a HDD in a caddy however. I was also having some trouble fitting the hard drive in the original mod, but that’s because I was afraid of taking a dremel to the bottom case of the laptop (I’ve since worked through my fear, though I like the mod as is.) Things that still need doing: I still need to shave off a 1mm from everything, and I ended up warping the top case with one of my earlier attempts. I’ve revised the design of my caddy so that I can fasten the 3 screws along the face of the DVD drive which I had to forego with the old design. I also have to model this and get it 3d printed so it’s one integral unit. Also, it looks like the new version of the eGPU hardware (PE4L-PM060A) might have the mPCIe card and the adapter directly soldered to the mini hdmi cord, so I’ll have to revise the mod slightly. Even without revising the design, I have to go in there and clean up some cables now that I’ve had it in for a few weeks and know that it works. Things to watch out for: I somehow shorted the speakers on this computer, no idea how I did it but I’ve made my peace with it. Also I killed a couple of usb wifi dongles due to bad solder joints and shorts. (Will update with parts list soon…) Photos: Initial Testing: First stab at a mockup: Progress: End Result: Pic of the three usb ports with the eGpu port. Its the hole at the end, closest to the screen.
  20. Tech Inferno Fan July-2015>> Anybody interested in the 12.5" 2570P should also consider a 14" Dell E6430. The E6430 is the superior performance platform due to it's 900P LCD option, NVidia dGPU option, unlockable turbo bins (+400Mhz) on i7-37xxQM/i7-38xxQM CPUs and x2 2.0 eGPU capability. All with a minor size/weight penalty. See http://forum.techinferno.com/dell-la...tml#post118135 for details. Welcome to the 2570P Owner's Lounge! A place to liase with other owners and share useful tips/tricks/mods to get the most satisfying user experience from this exceptional ultraportable notebook. Release date: 22 June 2012, Model name: Inventec SIMBA, Nick name: EXtremeBook for i7-quad upgraded units A 2570P can be had for as little as US$250 on ebay-US , still with remaining 3yr global onsite warranty. A bargain when you consider it's upgraded desktop-replacement performance and durable MIL-spec build in a small 12.5" package. A features set unmatched by any other Ivy Bridge or Haswell notebook that remains undisclosed by all online reviews and even by HP. Grab one before word gets out . 2570P highlights being: socketted CPU allows a easy user upgrade up to a 45W i7-quad, doubling i5/i7 dual-core CPU performance. The result of doing so being the smallest, most powerful systems available that can function as a desktop replacement. Ultraportable competitors like a 12-14" Lenovo X230/X1C/T430s, Dell E6230/E6330, Toshiba R930/R940 or 13" Macbook Pro all have soldered dual-core i5/i7 CPUs making CPU upgrades unfeasible. Need to upsize to a larger 14" Lenovo T430/T440 or (preferrably) a Dell E6440 to get a socketted CPU. rare 5Gbps expresscard slot allows implementing a ~$160 [email protected] DIY eGPU for gaming graphics, CUDA/OpenCL processing or driving more external LCDs. optical drive can be swapped with a second 2.5" 9.5mm SATA-III 6Gbps SSD or HDD in a caddy & in a JBOD, RAID-0 (performance) or RAID-1 (redundancy) configuration. Can have up to 4TB of internal storage (2x2TB 9.5mm). Or RAID-0 2xSSDs for superfast boot-times and > 1GB/s sequential transfers. eSATAp port allows external bootable SSD/HDD to be attached using a single eSATAp cable. Ultra convenient when you consider USB-only systems like Macbooks require complicated software workarounds to get a Win7/8 disk booted off their USB ports. upgradeable wifi : can upgrade to recently-released 802.11AC standard with a Broadcom BCM4352 or Intel 7260 HMW card as explained. internal WWAN/3G capable : install a whitelisted WWAN/3G card, insert a mobile SIM and surf the internet anywhere battery options include a 31Wh 3-cell, 62Wh 6-cell (9hrs) and 100Wh 9-cell battery (15hrs) is listed by laptopmag as a top 5 HP laptop of 2013 (Dec-2013) and top 10 business notebook (Apr-2013) Comparison: http://forum.techinferno.com/what-no...html#post34610 concludes the 2570P is the best one.Comparison: 12.5" HP 820 G1 (Haswell: 4th-gen i-core) versus 2570P (Ivy Bridge: 3rd gen i-core) in spoiler: Comparison: 12.5" HP 2570P (Ivy Bridge: 3rd gen i-core) versus 2560P (Sandy Bridge: 2nd gen i-core) Example user-customized 2570P systems ordered by CPU performance User CPU clock TDP x27-TDP Storage: 9.5mm primary + ODD bay Other mods i7 quad-core equipped 2570Ps Aikimox [email protected] 45W 500GB + 1TB HDDs (1.5TB) OC ME FW, 16GB DDR3, cooling Tech Inferno Fan [email protected] 45W 22.1W 256GB S840P.SSD + ODD + 500GB eSATAp GTX770 eGPU, OC ME FW, BCM4352AC wifi, battery life tweaks, cooling Dewos i7-3840QM 2.8 45W 24.8W 128GB+128GB RAID0 SSDs GTX660 eGPU, 16GB DDR3 badbadbad i7-3840QM 2.8 45W 26.2W 500GB S840 EVO SSD + ODD 16GB DDR3L, BCM4352AC wifi invait53 i7-3840QM 2.8 45W 128GB SSD + 2TB ST HDD 16GB DDR3, WLAN-USB, BCM4352AC wifi+BT4.0 paperclip i7-3820QM 2.7 45W 22.4W 240GB Intel 530 SSD + ODD jacobsson i7-3740QM 2.7 45W 256GB+256GB RAID0 SSDs + 500GB eSATAp GTX670 eGPU, 16GB DDR3L, cooling pandaleo i7-3740QM 2.7 45W 24.5W 256GB Toshiba SSD 16GB DDR3L Uftherr i7-3720QM 2.6 45W GTX570 eGPU, 8GB DDR3, cooling hatoblue i7-3630QM 2.4 45W 23.6W GTX560Ti eGPU krazyazy i7-3632QM 2.2 35W 24.5W 256GB S840P.SSD + 500GB HDD GTX660Ti eGPU, 16GB DDR3L phillofoc i7-3632QM 2.2 35W 25.5W 128GB C400 SSD + 500GB HDD GTX650Ti eGPU, 16GB DDR3L, 7260AC wifi, battery life tweaks bjorm i7-3632QM 2.2 35W 25.7W 500GB S840 SSD + ODD GTX560TI eGPU, cooling+quiet_fan+holey_bottom i5 or i7 dual-core equipped 2570Ps rhx123 i7-3520M 2.9 35W 256GB LiteOn LCT-256M3S SSD + ODD GTX780 eGPU jot23 i5-3210M 2.5 35W 128GB C400 SSD + 640GB HDD GTX660 eGPU xuhexiffi806 i7-3689Y 1.5 13W 180GB Intel 530 SSD + weight saver 100Wh 9-cell battery, expresscard-SD reader PURPLE - highest performance AND lowest power consumption in this table RED - highest performance configuration in this table GREEN - lowest power consumption in this table x27-TDP: TDP when running at x27 reflecting overall CPU temps and efficiency as discussed Operating System, Support, Drivers, Disassembly Guide HP's 2570p Drivers Link, Manuals Link, Maintenance And Service Guide, Disassembly Guide, Media Services Link w/ videoWindows 7 OEM HP Source - For Clean Installs : includes additional HP installation contents needed for a Win7 clean install media.2560P schematic : 2570P is similiar but unfortunately no public schematic found for it as yet. This is the next best thing.HP warranty checker : useful to check a ebay secondhand unit's remaining warranty Performance upgrade: i7-quad CPU resulting in 'IVB ZBook 12' or 'EXtremeBook'Can effectively double the CPU performance going from a factory i5/i7 dual core to a i7-quad CPU. Could also be desirable if you wish to lower fan noise and temps. Running a i7-quad with max 99% CPU utilization results in noticably cooler temps than their dual-core counterparts without loss of performance, eg: cool i7-quads by bjorm's i7-3632QM or Aikimox's i7-3840QM. Note: warranty implications of a CPU upgrade - a factory-specced faster dual core up to i7-3520M 2.9 will not void warranty while a i7-quad will void the warranty if HP know about it as it wasn't offered with one. I'd keep the original CPU back and swap it back in if necessary. Upgraded 2570P i7-quad system examples are shown in the table above.NOTE: A 45W CPU can have highest multiplier limited to a 35W CPU level using Throttlestop software. That means a 45W i7-3630QM/i7-3610M (turbo=3.4/3.3Ghz) runs like a 35W i7-3632QM/i7-3612QM (turbo=3.2/3.1Ghz). Best 45W i7-quads being a i7-3630QM (x32) , i7-3720QM (x34) and i7-3740QM/3820QM (x35). There is at max 9% 4-core peformance difference between these with the higher end ones often not being able to maintain their upper multipliers as shown here. Meaning, suggest grab whichever is available and of lowest cost in your area.The 4-core TDP limit means any faster 45W CPUs do not see any gains. If need more performance and have deeper pockets then consider purchasing a 55W i7-3920XM instead. It has an additional 10W heatroom for turbo. Though it will absolutely need cooling mods to be able to accomodate at that level. <- 55W CPU is being limited to 45W on a 2570P as shown.It's possible to get and install cheaper PGA-to-BGA converted i7-quad CPUs as demonstrated by pandaleo.RECOMMENDED reading: How to choose the most efficient 45W i7-quadPerformance upgrade: external graphics (eGPU)DIY eGPU to attach a desktop videocard via the 2570P's 5Gbps expresscard slot. Provides accelerated gaming graphics, CUDA/OpenCL processing and additional HDMI/DVI outputs to drive multiple monitors. To do this most users only need to set System configuration->Device configuration expresscard slot from Generation 1 to Generation 2 as shown below:A NVidia GTX460/560/660/670 is a straight plug-n-play implementation on a 2570P when using Windows 7, though Win8.x is problematic (src: here). Win8.x users may consider doing a UEFI installation instead which resolved error12 and gave hotplug capabilities as noted here.An AMD card, GTX650, GTX750, GTX9xx or older NVidia cards require a DSDT override and (maybe) DIY eGPU Setup 1.x interposer software to eradicate error 12 that prevents their functionality. See the 2570P DSDT override details if using one of these cards.Implemented on a 2570P at x1.2Opt speed (5Gbps + compression) using a NVidia GTX670 (jacobsson), GTX660Ti (Tech Inferno Fan), GTX560Ti (bjorm), GTX660 (dewos), GTX560Ti (hatoblue), GTX650Ti (phillofoc) Above: simplified HP 2570P eGPU installation process instructions courtesy of T|U user badbadbadPerformance upgrade: storageExtra hotswappable 9.5mm (2.5") HDD/SSD added through Optical-Drive Bay (SimoxTav) or newmodeus. US$18 optical drive faceplate replacement part2570P RAID-0 SSD guide (jacobsson) - get superfast bootup and 1GB/s sequential reads by configuring two SATA-III SSDs as a RAID-0 volUS$4 eSATAp cable - connect to your SATA HDD/SSD to the 2570P's eSATAp (combo SATA+ USB 3.0) port for superfast bootable storage.FAQ about optical drive space saver: can it's faceplate be used on other ODDs/caddies? Answer: no/yes.System mod: LCD upgrade The supplied LCD is a 12.5" single-LVDS TN panel, HP P/N 685504-001 which is a AUO B125XW02 V.0 or Samsung LTN125AT02 with relatively narrow viewing angles and around 45% gamut. X220/X230 IPS LCD retrofit with wide viewing angles: failed attempts by bjorm and pandaleo due to insufficient clearancehigher-resolution panels: not possible as HP has confirmed 2570P has only single-LVDS wired per detailsSystem mods: cooling and fan quieteningRecommended reading - INFO: Tech Inferno Fan findings on improving 2570P cooling systemNotebook FanControl - easier to configure than TPFanControl. Can set 2.5% (2825 rpm)-100% (5120 rpm) manual fan control or temperature-based rules. Nice. Though because there isn't a 2570P configuration item I use a HP 8560P or ZBook 15 instead.troubadix's TPFanControl allows software fan step control though doesn't alter the cut-in RPMs which bjorm says is 3072rpmquiet_fan: 2x1N4004 diode mod (bjorm) & : reduce fan RPMs including cut-in RPMsheatsink mods: by Tech Inferno Fan's (copper-stack), Aikimox, bjorm & jacobsson's 'Anarchist' - improve heat transfer to reduce fan activity or host a 45W i7-quad comfortablybjorm's holey bottom cover mod - improve airflowSystem mod: BIOS inc WLAN/WWAN Unfortunately the 2570P bios is RSA protected. Flashing a modified BIOS that say disables the WWAN whitelist results in system failing to boot. Nobody has successfully created a modified bios. REF: bios-mods.com. WLAN/WWAN/Bluetooth whitelist : IDs of cards that the BIOS will allow boot with.Confirmed Intel 6235 working in 2570P - it's between 0.5W to 1W more efficient than the stock Intel 6205 (M3ph15t)Non-whitelisted Intel/Atheros WLAN works: Intel 1000, 5100, 6235 and Atheros AR5B91 all work as "Test WLAN" cards with BIOS F.41/F.42F.44 bios confirmed by HP to have no WLAN whitelistBIOS dumps at hpfocus.com : extensive Elitebook (inc 2570P) bios dumps. Here's the two files discussed of interest: 68ISB16.F34.rar (F.34 dump - unlock flash descriptor with WIN+[left arrow]+[right arrow] then flash using fptw64.exe utility). NbDmiFit-2.03.zip (DMIFit - initialize the computer information(S/N, P/N, etc.) Emergency recovery: if you have a flash go wronghttp://forum.techinferno.com/general...html#post26529 : Press WIN+[left arrow]+[right arrow] during poweron to unlock the flash descriptor WWANDOS - HP WWAN whitelist writing tool Tweaks: overclocking and extending battery lifeKhenglish's 2570P BCLK overclocking ME FW - allows increasing BCLK by 4.8% using XTU software, eg: i5-3360M 2.8Ghz -> 2.93GhzBattery life tweaks inc 33% longer 2570P battery life by enabling ASPMs and L0s L1 using softwareMISC infoWLAN-USB: Wiring the WLAN USB pins to the docking connector to enable WLAN Bluetooth (BCM94352AC+BT4.0) [invait53]INFO: Retrofitting webcam to non-webcam modelCorrecting Production Information Incorrect bios halt screen (eg: system board, product name, serial, SKU, family)Using a ramdisk for browser cache (phillofoc) : to extend battery lifeWWAN whitelist workaround. As a BIOS mod is not possible, enthusiastic individuals could mask then internally re-route the WWAN USB pins (36,38) to either the expresscard or docking connector USB port. Yes, soldering would be required. REF: 2560P schematic for pinouts.unbridged tracks on 2570P WWAN socket are mSATA but no BIOS support : info on how the mSATA can be enabled on the WWAN socket weight loss : how to lighten the 2570P using a weight saver instead of the optical drive, lighter AC adapter, + more.Hackintosh works on 2570P: Mac OSX Mountain Lion (10.8.5) confirmed working minus wifi on a 2570P.Hackintosh works on 2570P #2 : Newer Mavericks 10.9 working on a 2570P. HP '820 G1' backlit keyboard retrofit : unimplemented experimental howtoObtaining an expresscard blank: how to order a replacement if lost yours, getting a optical bay space saver in the processHP HS2340 WWAN module: using it on a non-HP notebookHS2340 WWAN module: fixes for dropping connections (HP forums)Systemboard photos : closeup photos by pandaleoWin7 fix for brightness hotkeys ceasing to work after sleep-resume cycle (phillofoc)Acknowledgements: a cast of many 2570P and other T|I users contributing to this thread. Thank you. 12.5" HP Elitebook 2570P review from 51nb.comTech Inferno Fan comments: Below is 51nb.com's Chinese-to-English translated 2570P review. notebookcheck have done a extensive review too. There's another English version review of the HP EliteBook 2570p posted that has some great coverage. Almighty business The HP EliteBook 2570p evaluation (source: 51nb.com)Business this traditionally has a the impertinent game video of the mainstream computing power, With the notebook full access IVB era, equipped with the latest the IVB architecture processor of Commerce this performance has been further enhanced. HP recently introduced the ProBook and EliteBook series of new business in this latest IVB platform positioning flagship model EliteBook 2570p continuation of the the HP business of the excellent design, including black TrackPoint, fingerprint reader, 180 degrees opening and closing angle, backplane Free tools demolition, today let us through a detailed evaluation of the article to understand the business of the new features under this all-around. HP EliteBook 2570p hardware configuration: Intel IVB i5 3210M processor, 4GB DDR3 1600 single-channel memory, 500GB 7200 rpm mechanical hard drive, Intel HD 4000 Core graphics, detailed parameter configuration table with reference below. Hewlett-Packard (HP) 2570p (B8Z45PA) Operating system Preloaded with Windows 7 Professional Edition Processor frequency Intel IVB i5 3210M Processor description Dual core four threads, clocked at 2.5GHz, Turbo accelerates to 3.1GHz, TDP 35W Memory descriptor 4GB DDR3 1600 Hard to describe 500GB, 7200 rpm mechanical hard Drive type DVD burner Screen description 12.5 inches, 1366x768, 16:9 dimming wide viewing angle, thin screen Graphics chip Intel GMA HD 4000 (Core Graphics) Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n (300Mbps) Refers to take keyboard Pointing stick, touchpad (multi-touch), full-size chocolate keyboard Data interface 2 USB3.0, 1 a USB2.0/eSATA dual-use interface, VGA, power, keyhole, DisplayPort, docking station port, RJ-45/RJ-11 interface, Smart Card, ExpressCard, SD card reader. Body Material Magnesium alloy Body weight Bare metal 1.96kg, travel 2.415kg Body size 300mm x 209mm x 27mm Appearance and interface: magnesium alloy body business interface● The appearance and use of materialsHigh strength material to the positioning the flagship of Commerce this will build the fuselage, the HP EliteBook 2570p body adopts high-strength magnesium alloy, with silver surface grinding process, with strong metal texture and also can effectively prevent fingerprint residue . 2570p whole shape design very low-key, nor around the rounded handle the current popular to abandon fashion elements only for the professional business. HP 2570p magnesium alloy body with a high degree of robustness Lithium battery using the HP 2570p randomly equipped the kyphosis design, this is tantamount to increase the width of the fuselage, but large-capacity lithium battery can also bring more endurance. ● Body thickness 2570p rear fuselage thickest approximately 34.25mm, and the front of the fuselage of 30.95mm, thickness or normal the Almighty business this machine who can design more expansion interface.● Extended Interface Almighty business this has a very well-equipped business interface design, the HP 2570p fuselage front end does not design any expansion interface, and most of the area of the rear fuselage, while lithium batteries occupy, but the left and right sides of the battery is still VGA, and dual USB3.0 interface. HP 2570p expansion interface design more concentrated in the fuselage left and right ends of the left side of the fuselage interface follows the power, RJ-45, RJ-11, DVD drive and Smart Card, the right side of the fuselage interface from right left turn for notebook lock the docking connector eSATA/USB2.0, DisplayPort, headphone / microphone, SD card reader and ExpressCard. View 2570p expansion interface is very well equipped, even the old RJ-11 interface has also been retained, two USB3.0 plus a USB2.0 also be able to meet the demand for the use of the most of the time, although 2570p DisplayPort interface , but the lack of a more mainstream HDMI interface looks a little regret.● portability The HP 2570p bare metal weight of 1.96kg, travel weight of 2.41kg, this weight is quite normal for a performance mainstream business of the Almighty metal.Chapter Summary: HP EliteBook 2570p on the body design is very introverted, magnesium-alloy high-strength material can effectively protect the safety of the fuselage, the surface layer of matte treatment has a good anti-fingerprint effect. More normal body thickness and portability. Interface, in addition to 2570p with HDMI outside the flagship business of the proper mainstream interface connected to the docking station can further enhance scalability.12.5-inch matte screen spill-resistant keyboard display and manipulation:● Screen HP EliteBook 2570p with a 12.5-inch LED matte screen resolution is 1366x768, 12.5-inch mainstream is also the business of the frequently used screen size, actual use, and 13-inch screen is not much difference. The matte surface is indispensable for high-end business, which can effectively prevent the glare caused by the interference of the human eye while enhancing the notebook display. The actual use of the process, a good piece of screen display, more accurate color reproduction, viewing angle of approximately 150 degrees left and right direction. HP EliteBook 2570p with alloy hinge sunken shaft the screen high fastness, 2570p screen the maximum opening angle of more than 180 degrees, which is also an important high-end business logo.● camera HP EliteBook 2570p HD Webcam settings on the screen just above the right there with a protective cover keyboard lights when not in use can be turned off the protective cover to prevent dust and moisture from entering.● control experience HP 2570p is equipped with a high-touch black chocolate spill-resistant keyboard, the key processes and key spacing design is very reasonable, prolonged beating also be able to maintain a good feeling. Although this keyboard does not have a backlight function, but by means of the camera to the right of the keyboard lights in low light conditions and accurate identification keys. This as the flagship business, let your hands do not leave the area of the keyboard to move the cursor pointing stick natural essential 2570p black the TrackPoint design in the middle of the keyboard position. 2570p touchpad uses the same metal grinding treatment, feel comfortable, precise positioning on the below the the four shortcuts resistance are very small, the key sound is also very light. Up and down two shortcuts used with the TrackPoint, the bottom two and trackpad for use with two combinations, allowing those different habits. 2570p biometric fingerprint reader design in the lower right corner of the C surface 2570p the upper right corner of the keyboard area wireless network switch, three shortcuts for fast Internet access and volume switch, the top left corner of the keyboard area is only one power switch the C surface design is also very simple.● scalability HP 2570p backplane support tool-free, only need to the bottom of the fuselage on the left of the power / the the backplane combo demolition the switch Wang Zuoce poke can free tool to tear down the backplane, this design is very humane, users either upgrade your hardware or clean-up The dust will become very convenient. HP 2570p disassemble tool-free chassis internal body details HP 2570p memory slots and hard drive slot details, including hard disk slot portion with a unique HP 3D DriveGuard protection technology, the fuselage impact on the effective protection of hard disk data. 2570p also provides mSATA interface, users can increase their own SSD to improve the overall performance. Chapter Summary: HP 2570p with a piece of business of the common 12.5-inch LED matte screen resolution mainstream 1366x768, the screen maximum opening angle of 180 degrees or more, fully meet the demand for business use, in addition with black TrackPoint and keyboard lighting, full-size chocolate spill-resistant keyboard can bring very good handling experience. Scalability using unique backplane Free tools demolition design, 2570p hardware upgrade or clean up the dust are very convenient.Hardware and performance: IVB i5 3210M with HD 4000 nuclear● Processor HP 2570p using an Intel architecture IVB i5 3210M processor, using the X86 field is currently the most advanced 22nm process technology, dual-core four threads, 6MB cache, the default clocked at 2.5GHz, Turbo Boost up to 3.1 GHz, TDP 35W.● Memory Terms of memory, 2570p using a single 2GB DDR3 1600 high-speed memory, timing 11-11-11-28, read speed 11794MB / s, write speed to 12462MB / s read and write speed or capacity can good deal with day-to-day use demand, can increase a 4GB memory 8GB dual-channel, the whole performance there will be a certain level of improvement.● wPrime wPrime is a notebook processor performance testing software, 2570p using the i5 3210M 32M and 1024M test results were 16.911 seconds and 584.833 seconds, leading the older generation i5 2430M approximately 10%.● CINEBENCH 11.5 Another common CINEBENCH 11.5 test software, the HP 2570p CPU single core performance 1.15pts, multi-core results 2.71pts previous generation i5 2430M approximately 10% ahead of the same.● Graphic Business notebook graphics capabilities are not very high, HP 2570p CPU integrated Intel HD Graphics 4000 Core graphics card, core frequency of 650MHz, memory frequency is 800MHz, and meet the business office is not a big problem.● Hard HP 2570p with a 500GB 7200 rpm Hitachi mechanical hard drive, this hard drive in HD Tune Pro test a minimum transfer speed of about 45.4MB / S, the maximum transmission speed is about 103.0MB / S, the average transfer speed of approximately 79.0 MB / S, HD Tune graph when the read test is also very stable. The 2570p Similarly with HP 3D DriveGuard hard disk protection technology, the fuselage by the impact of the big efforts to advance locked hard disk to protect data security.● PCMARK 7 In the the professional machine performance testing software PCMARK7, 2570p total score of 2819 points. Chapter Summary: HP 2570p using the latest IVB i5 3210M processor, the default 2.5GHz, 3.1GHz high frequency has a very mainstream performance Turbo 4GB DDR3 1600 memory also able to meet the complex business-use environment. 500GB 7200 RPM high-capacity mechanical hard drive with HP 3D DriveGuard hard disk protection technology, the data is very safe.Cooling capacity, endurance test, evaluation Full Summary● Heat HP 2570p using the bottom into the wind, the wind out of the right side of the fuselage cooling mode, use should pay attention to the right hand mouse and the distance of the fuselage, so as not to vent hot air right impact. 2570p Here's the specific thermal performance test. The temperature of the surface of the conventional standby fuselage C (left) and D surface (right) To use AIDA64 Let 2570p processor and graphics card to run at full capacity 30 minutes Full load for 30 minutes after the fuselage C surface temperature Surface temperature of the full load for 30 minutes after the body D We can see through the professional thermal imager: conventional standby mode (room temperature about 26 degrees) 2570p body C face maximum temperature was 34.4 degrees, the position appears in the upper left corner of the touchpad, the maximum temperature of the D surface outlet was 38.5 degrees, the position appears on the right side of the fuselage, the whole, fairly good 2570p cooling capacity in standby mode; conventional 2570p fuselage C surface temperature of 36.8 degrees after 30 minutes of full load, D surface The maximum temperature of 59.2 degrees C, the highest temperature of the surface D are located near the main outlet the HP 2570p full load cooling capacity is the same impressive.● Endurance Test HP EliteBook 2570p standard lithium battery capacity 11.1V 62Wh Screen brightness to 50% and turn on WiFi, then turn on the power-saving mode the last HP 2570p estimated 7 hours battery life under Windows 7. Evaluation Summary: HP 2570p has a very high degree of sturdy magnesium alloy body, coupled with a biometric fingerprint reader, spill-resistant keyboard 3D DriveGuard hard disk protection technology, the internal body as well as the hard drive information can be effectively protected . The opening angle of over 180 degrees screen, mainstream and complete business interface design, IVB platform performance, excellent hardware configurations make this machine demonstrated a deep skill, backplane tool-free is a big bright spot, users can easily upgrade hardware or screwdriver to clean the dust. This model priced at about 10,500 yuan, the positioning and the ThinkPad T430 is similar, if you do not intend to into the black, then this HP EliteBook 2570p is also a very good choice.
  21. [RIGHT]Troubleshooting FAQ[/RIGHT] 24 June 2012: Added checklist for troubleshooting when eGPU is not detected (Main FAQ). 30 Mar. 2012: Fixed two-pass script in Non-Optimus FAQ. 27 Mar. 2012: Added new DSDT override solution (extending the root bridge into 36-bit) to overcome high TOLUD (>3.25GB) & 4GB+ of RAM installed. 3 Feb. 2012: Change "Quick Links" with icons. 28 Jan. 2012: Updated the "Quick Links" & changed to new logo. 23 Oct. 2011: Made small correction in Error 12 section. 24 Sept. 2011: Revised the two-pass script in "Non-Optimus Setup: x2/x4" (FAQ#1). 17 Sept. 2011: Added one more FAQ for Error 12. 3 Sept. 2011: Rearrange titles/questions/topics into their own section. 15 August 2011: Troubleshooting FAQ is now in dedicated thread! :) 13 July 2011: Troubleshooting FAQ moved to new page which will ideally document reoccurring issues. Contributions/edits are most welcome. eGPU=external desktop GPU, iGPU=integrated GPU, dGPU=dedicated GPU Announcements:- >>>Driver version in this troubleshooting page is outdated. Always use latest version. Consider the driver version in this page is the minimum/lowest version you can use. Main:- >>>How to ask help efficiently? >>>Why is my eGPU is not detected? Common:- I have problems when running eGPU Setup 1.30 My system just boots to a black screen / my system hangs or BSODs while booting up to Win7 My eGPU worked, then stopped working all of a sudden My eGPU hangs, particularly when doing a lot of graphics processing I can't play any game or run any benchmark for more than a minute or two before a complete system lock up - "black screen" of death [ATI] Device Manager lists my eGPU without any errors but has have no resources against it nor is any external LCD detected I have a PE4L + DC adapter. The eGPU isn't detected/fan spins up fast. My eGPU recognises the external monitor but when I make it the primary it doesn't "turn on" and I'm simply reverted back to my internal LCD Upon powering my eGPU, the fan on the eGPU just spins faster and the card isn't detected. I have problems running an NVidia eGPU with a internal Nvidia dGPU. My mHDMI cable does not fit in my half-height PM3N. Why does my USB/network/sound not working when enable my eGPU in Win7? Error 12:- My eGPU is detected and drivers loaded but has an error 12: cannot allocate resources against it in Device Manager Even after successful compaction I still get a error 12: cannot allocate resources in Device Manager Error 42:- I get an error 42: cannot start device in Win7 Error 43:- I get an error 43 against my eGPU in Win7. Optimus Setup: x1.1Opt/x1.2Opt:- Lenovo Thinkpad/Dell Latitude: I boot with the expresscard in my system. The internal LCD doesn't appear/work. Neither do I see x1.Opt performance (NVidia) Installing Nvidia drivers with AMD/Intel switchable graphics gives an error I can't get internal LCD mode to work. Non-Optimus Setup: x2/x4 Link:- Set x2 link but mPCIe Port2/Port4 re-enabled after reboot? Main >>> How to ask help efficiently? To allow others to help you, always include details information on your eGPU setup. Please use this template when posting. This is how to generate Diags file & include them in your post. ^top Why is my eGPU is not detected? Try any of these:- If running a mPCIe eGPU refer to [url]http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/11393-mpcie-egpu-troubleshooting-steps.html#post149873[/url] Power ON notebook with eGPU already connected & already turn ON. Connect eGPU to notebook but not turn ON yet. Turn ON notebook & before windows loading press F8 to halt windows loading. Turn ON eGPU & continue boot into windows. Connect eGPU to notebook but not turn ON yet. Turn ON notebook. When you see "Starting Windows" screen & you see the four dots emerged to form windows logo, turn ON eGPU. PCIe power connector Make sure you plugged all PCIe power connector on the GPU with 6/8-pin PCIe power connector(s) from PSU. If GPU have two PCIe power connectors & you think connected only one 6/8-pin PCIe power connector is enough, you're totally wrong. Floppy power connector (PE4L/PE4H) Connect floppy power connector from PSU to floppy power header on PE4L/PE4H Jumper (PE4L) Check out jumper settings in the manual which available from here:- PE4L v1.5: [url=http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4L.html]PE4L ( PCIe passive adapter ver1.5 )[/url] PE4L v2.1: [url=http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4L%20V2.1.html]PE4L V2.1 ( PCIe Adapter )[/url] ^top Common >>> I have problems when running eGPU Setup 1.30. See eGPU Setup 1.30 troubleshooting. ^top My system just boots to a black screen / my system hangs or BSODs while booting up to Win7 If running a mPCIe eGPU refer to [url]http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/11393-mpcie-egpu-troubleshooting-steps.html#post149873[/url] Poweroff your eGPU. Boot Win7. Standby (not hibernate) your system, poweron your eGPU, resume your system. ^top My eGPU worked, then stopped working all of a sudden First thing is check your mini HDMI cable. 2 users requiring a replacement US$6-shipped cable to restore functionality. NOTE: This solution only for PE4L v1.5 & PE4H v2.4. ^top My eGPU hangs, particularly when doing a lot of graphics processing If you are running a Gen2-capable system (2nd gen i-core or newer) but not using a Gen2 capable eGPU adapter (PE4L 2.1b or PE4C 3.0), then you'll need to downgrade your link to Gen1 to gain reliable operation using Setup 1.30 Check your PSU is delivering the required power OR swap with another more powerful PSU and test again. We've found cheap double-rail PSUs might not deliver enough power. Eg: a Shaw 680W PSU has a 12V/16A and 12V/15A rail. The latter rail was insufficient to power a GTX470 requiring 225W of power. Also refer to Panzer's fuse bypass on PE4H ^top I can't play any game or run any benchmark for more than a minute or two before a complete system lock up - "black screen" of death. Pretty much the same issue as for Q4. Likely the PE4H's fuse is kicking in upon detecting a very high load and shuts down the power to your eGPU. This will occur with any of the heavy duty gpus like a GTX465+ or GTX560+. The solution is to set the PE4H 2.4 fuse bypass jumper (near the floppy molex connector). Older PE4H can do Panzer's fuse bypass to accomplish the same thing. ^top [ATI] Device Manager lists my eGPU without any errors but has have no resources against it nor is any external LCD detected This is a problem seen with onboard HD3450+HD6850 setups. The solution being a unified driver for both cards as provided by the DNA modded ATI drivers. ^top I have a PE4L + DC adapter. The eGPU isn't detected/fan spins up fast. Set JP4 on the PE4L as described so it draws 3.3V from the expresscard or mPCIe slot. Can connect a USB cable b/w your notebook and the PE4L to provide additional 5V->3.3V (regulated) if you find it's still flakey. ^top My eGPU recognises the external monitor but when I make it the primary it doesn't "turn on" and I'm simply reverted back to my internal LCD If you see a brief flash on the external LCD then it could either be a faulty HDMI cable connected to the LCD or the PSU is insufficient to drive the eGPU to actually display something. I did encounter a intermittently faulty HDMI cause this problem. Also, Optimus drivers newer than 258.96 will cause this if using a DVI-to-VGA adapter. ^top Upon powering my eGPU, the fan on the eGPU just spins faster and the card isn't detected. This indicates the eGPU is either not on the PCI bus or isn't getting 3.3V. Try unplugging, replugging the mini HDMI cable (expresscard solution) or hotplugging the PM3N (mPCIe solution). If the card is still not detected then connect the setup to another system's expresscard slot. It may be either a faulty expresscard slot or mini HDMI cable. Worth testing the eGPU in a desktop system as well. ^top I have problems running an Nvidia eGPU with an internal NVidia dGPU (supplied by nlooije/Khenglish) The trick is to get both an NVIDIA dGPU and eGPU working work under the same driver. This method assumes that the eGPU is detected in the device manager. If any errors such as code 12 or 43 are present check the corresponding items in the Troubleshooting section. If using the PM3N and it is not detected then maybe the mPCIe port is whitelisted, use the Setup 1.30 to unwhitelist. Download the latest drivers from the NVidia website or from this post by Tech Inferno Fan. Once the eGPU is detected, windows will automatically search for drivers through windows update. Cancel the search, and let windows install the standard vga drivers. In the device manager, right-click uninstall the dGPU and eGPU NVidia drivers. Use CCleaner to search for any residual Nvidia driversoftware and delete further. Install the latest Nvidia drivers. If everything went correctly then the installation software should ask permission to install the drivers twice, once for every card. Reboot and cross fingers. ^top My mHDMI cable does not fit in my half-height PM3N mPCIe socket Newer systems have been reported to have half-height mPCIe socket which may be limited in space for inserting a mHDMI cable due to the rigid connector. DIY solution: It is possible to strip the rigid connector to give the cable more flexibility and make more efficient use of the space. Use a sharp knife to cut along the ridge of the connector; be careful near the cable itself as the wires there are not protected. Inside the connector the wires are protected by a thick layer of solid glue. non-DIY solution: no commercial products have been found to solve this problem. (supplied by beatTheRestrictions) ^top Why does my USB/network/sound not working when enable my eGPU in Win7? Likely a PCI contention issue. Recommend setting up Setup 1.30, configured with a pci.bat (resulting from PCI compaction on your primary GPU + eGPU) prior to chainloading Win7. ^top Error 12 >>> My eGPU is detected and drivers loaded but has an error 12: cannot allocate resources against it in Device Manager Please check TOLUD on your notebook. For a reference on how to do this, please go to Pre-Purchase FAQ #2 (>> 2. How can I check if my notebook is compatible with an eGPU?). Many notebook vendors' bios were never designed to accomodate a desktop eGPU so do not setup PCI configuration space correctly to accomodate it resulting in the symptoms below. This will affect the DIY, Villagetronic ViDock and MSI Graphics Upgrade Solution (GUS) external graphics solutions. Symptom RequirementSIZE> Details with solution1SIZE> Device Manager error 12: cannot allocate resources Fix error Problem explanation: Windows XP/Server 2003 do not reconfigure the bridge windows based on the requirements of a device behind the bridge. This leads to a classic problem where a PCI device cannot be started due to lack of resources on the bridge, even though enough device resources are available to the system. For reasons such as this, a platform configuration that configures PCI devices at boot time works best. Some systems with more than 2.5GB RAM have no bios allocated free 256MB PCI window to host the desktop eGPU. Need to configure this correctly using one of the methods below:Solution#1 : (Update 3-14-2012) A DSDT override extending the root bridge into 36-bit can allow ALL systems with a 64-bit CPU and chipset (anything after 2007) to be eGPU compatible when used with Windows 7 and the latest iGPU/dGPU/eGPU drivers with up to 48GB of RAM installed. Solution#2 : Use Win8.x (WDM 1.2) that allows the primary video device to be disabled, freeing up resources for the eGPU to use. Solution#3 : Use Win7 to do a PCI relocation as described. Solution#4 : Use eGPU Setup 1.30 PCI Compaction. Solution#5 : [XP or Win7_with_XP_drivers] - disable onboard graphics using eGPU Setup 1.30 Solution#6 : install only 2.5GB/3GB of RAM, freeing 256MB of PCI Resource space. Solution#7 : Use Magma ExpressBox Full Driver described here. Greater than 2.5/3GB RAM installedExamples Neither the DV2000 or the 2510P had an appropriate PCI bridge memory window defined by the bios. The DV2000 too didn't have a free 256MB window when equipped with 3GB of RAM, the 2510P didn't have it's bridge correctly configured. In both cases eGPU Setup 1.30 was used to configure the PCI space correctly. ^top Even after successful compaction I still get a error 12: cannot allocate resources in Device Manager (Source: Tech Inferno Fan) The first thing to try is 32bitA compaction and see if that resolves it. If not, then what has been discovered happening is the I/O port allocated by compact gets moved by Win7. The I/O port allocated is shown as the last two echo lines in pci.bat such as : @echo -s 2:0.0 BASE_ADDRESS_5=2001 >> setpci.arg @echo -s 0:1c.1 1c.b=20 1d.b=20 >> setpci.arg The 0:1c.1 refers to pci-e port2 and the 2:0.0 refers to the PCI ID my GTX460 has. The 20 and 2001 means assign the port and GTX460 to use I/O port 0x2000-20FF. On this particular system, Win7 moves the pci-e express port2's I/O space to 0xD000-DFFF port instead which is odd so the GTX460 flags an error 12 since it can't get 0x2000-20ff. So the workaround is to change the 20 to be D0 and let Win7 have it's way. This can be done by adding two additional lines between "call pci" and "call chainload" to override compact's allocation. This setting will override any further re-runs of compaction as well. It should look like this in STARTUP.BAT file:- call pci setpci -s 2:0.0 BASE_ADDRESS_5=d001 setpci -s 0:1c.1 1c.b=d0 1d.b=d0 call chainload mbr ^top Error 42 >>> I get an error 42: cannot start device in Win7 Standby (not hibernate) your system, poweroff your eGPU, poweron, resume your system. ^top Error 43 >>> I get an error 43 against my eGPU in Win7. UPDATE: Use NVidia Verde 270.61 driver as described. First thing to replace is the mini HDMI cable. Could also be a faulty eGPU. Or if using a NVidia eGPU try: Ensure your PE4L 1.5+ or PE4H 2.4+ has the PCI Reset Delay slider set to 0s rather than 7 or 15. If it's the latter then upon doing a resume-from-standby the card will be delayed leading to an 'unconfigured' state, hence the error 43. Use Setup 1.30 to load a PCI dump AND use the 258.96 Optimus drivers (becak) Downgrade to 258.96 Optimus drivers (apollo-fox) (Update 26 July 2011) There is the Video cards->Initialize and Video cards->Save/Load dump features to eradicate error43. Ensure you are running the latest 275.33 Verde drivers + modded nvam.inf and the PCI reset delay slider on the PE4L 1.5/PE4H 2.4 is set to the 0 seconds position (not 7 or 15 seconds). Then proceed as follows: Boot eGPU Setup 1.30 with 2GB installed, run Setup 1.30, select to Video Cards->Save. If you are hotplugging after bios boot then need to select Video Cards->Save(Win) and follow instructions generated from within Windows. Install 4GB of RAM. Boot Windows. Create a devcon with 4GB of system RAM installed: eGPUeGPU-setup-mount v:devconmkdevcon Boot eGPU Setup 1.30, - select Video cards->Load to load the PCI space dump created when it was working with no error 43. - perform 32-bit PCI compaction on the iGPU+eGPU. - select startup.bat->edit, remove the 'call vidinit' since it might interfere with your load dump. - select Apply config.Run startup.bat - select Chainload mbr If still get an error 43, then repeat steps in (3) above but use 32-bitA PCI compaction method instead. ^top Optimus Setup: x1.1Opt/x1.2Opt >>> Lenovo Thinkpad/Dell Latitude: I boot with the expresscard in my system. The internal LCD doesn't appear/work. Neither do I see x1.Opt performance (NVidia) These system's bios will use the eGPU as the primary video if it detects it on bios startup. That means the iGPU will be disengaged. Problem then is the internal LCD won't work and neither will x1.Opt since they are both reliant on a iGPU to be the primary video card. Solution is to boot past the bios with the eGPU switched off, then either: hotplug the EC2C by hitting F8 to stall the Windows boot proces power on eGPU, resume in Windows boot Setup 1.30 and hotplug if need PCI compaction ^top Installing Nvidia drivers with AMD/Intel switchable graphics gives an error (supplied by appolo-fox) Installing Nvidia drivers with AMD/Intel switchable graphics may give you an error asking you to install Intel drivers first. Solution is to uninstall the switchable driver from your manufacturer (Lenovo in this case); system should revert to pure Intel driver via WinUpdate (if not, you will need to reboot and disable AMD discrete GPU with Setup 1.30 and let WinUpdate install or download newest Intel driver from their website. The Nvidia installer should be content with the pure Intel driver and install correctly. After Nvidia installation, reinstall your switchable graphics driver. [URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/amdintel.jpg/][/URL] -> Intel driver provided by ATI (AMD). Nvidia installer exits with error. ^top I can't get internal LCD mode to work. This appears to be the case if you attach your eGPU after Win7 boots. So either hotplug your eGPU at the Win7 bootloader menu (hit F8 to pause bootup). Another option is to install and configure Setup 1.30 to detect your eGPU and configure your PCI configuration space prior to chainloading to Win7. AppInit_DLLs needs to be set for internal LCD mode to work For games to launch on the internal LCD on systems with an intel iGPU, the AppInit_DLLs needs to route via a DLL. NVidia sets this to nvinit.dll. During my tinkerings I have seen this registry setting missing so internal LCD mode didn't work. [H] "AppInit_DLLs"="C:WindowsSysWOW64 vinit.dll" ^top Non-Optimus Setup: x2/x4 >>> Set x2 link but mPCIe Port2 or Port4 enabled after reboot? On x2 setup (mPCIe Port1&Port2 or Port3&Port4), mPCIe Port2/Port4 must be disabled. If they left enabled, it can cause eGPU instability (e.g. 3dMark06 crashed while running benchmark). There are two methods for dealing this issue. First Method: modded PM3N (Source: Tech Inferno Fan) Second Method: two-pass script in STARTUP.BAT (Source: Tech Inferno Fan) ^top
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