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  1. Do you think you could try and explain exactly what it is you're uploading one more time please? I would appreciate it, thank you.
  2. But what is the point, there will be no real gain. And yes it is bad to post S/N on net.
  3. I am 1000000% positive the 660M is 3.0 x16. Hence why it is (somewhat) necessary to disable it so that you can reserve the PCIe bandwidth for the eGPU. The eGPU must be PCIe gen 2 link because both the mPCIe port, and the PExx passive PCI adapter only support upto gen 2.0. As to whether the eGPU itself supports 3.0 speeds is irrelevant. Secondly, I think you are mixing up PCIe link speeds and PCIe bandwidth.. There are only PCIe link speeds of gen 1, gen 2, and gen 3. Possible bandwidths are x1, x2, x4, x8, and x16 (powers of 2). PE4L can only use x2 because the actual physical connection does not fit, leaving part of the GPU pins unconnected; AFAIK, the PE4C can do x8. PCI real estate is not a concern whatsoever when you're adding an eGPU. The limitations of the external GPU is limited to the following: the GPU itself, the specific adapter you're connecting with (PE4L, PE4C, etc etc), PSU (power going to GPU), CPU (potential bottleneck), and active PCI ports along with BIOS settings. I read somewhere that using an odd numbered port (WLAN), and having its adjacent even numbered ports disabled can significantly increase bandwidth. The reference sheet that you're referring to is specific to the chipset and limited to the motherboard. Basically when Lenovo or its manufacturer designs the motherboard, they can choose not to add all of the lanes, which in this case I'm sure they used all of them. I'm not totally sure about the existance of a "mystery port" but I am 100% positive that it completely irrelevant and insignificant in adding an eGPU to the Y580. Hope that helps
  4. @svl7 I just recently upgraded my 3610QM to a 3920XM, but no matter what I try I can't increase its (unlocked) multipliers. I have a y580, using eGPU w/ GTX 970 & disabled 660M using a 120W charger (default is 90W). Do you think I can do something similar to what's in the OP w/o bricking? I have tried XTU, reflashing main stock BIOS, (your) main modded BIOS, Intel ME FW, and throttlestop without success. XTU provides nearly the same functionality as my locked 3610QM, only difference being the sliders for the multipliers but I can only decrease and not increase. Any help, tips, or thoughts are greatly appreciated
  5. Oh dear lord.. I guess no one knows how to google anything anymore. Yes you can boot to mSATA (why wouldn't you be able to?). I have an SX300 256 mSATA SSD I've been using as a main drive. You can change the boot order of your drives in BIOS (even without flashing modded version) and just have your main drive be at the top. Boot your laptop and hit F12 on the same screen you would hit f2 to enter bios. Select your flash drive.... And revert any settings you did to get this to work. Yes it is possible, however because of the vbios being integrated with the main bios, you won't be able to change it on the fly. Send me your BIOS and I will modify the GPU voltage for you. The highest you can go is 1.2125 V, this is a hardware & driver limit by nvidia. Be warned, your idle GPU temp is going to increase significantly so make sure you repaste and use a cooler. Unless your laptop came with faulty parts or you're using your laptop where the ambient temp is very hot, 1 GHz clock is not going to cause overheating. IIRC stock clocks is 800 something so ~200 extra MHz is only going to increase the GPU temperature only under load. At the very most you will probably only notice 3-5 C degree difference. - - - Updated - - - I don't know if you're understanding me but just to clarify, there is no mystery port. If you check the datasheet for your CPU, you'll find the max PCI configurations are 6. Specifically, 1x16, or 2x8, or 1x8 and 2x4. Source: http://ark.intel.com/products/64887/Intel-Core-i7-3920XM-Processor-Extreme-Edition-8M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz That link is for the 3820XM, but I think this is the same for all 7-series chipsets. When you say it is well worth it to you, if that is supposed to mean that you'll gain a significant increase in bandwidth/performance, you're mistaken. PE4H will use x8 lanes, regardless of how you configure it. You cannot increase bandwidth using something that isn't there to use. && Yes, I took out the 3610QM and replaced it with 3920XM just to prove to all those people saying the y580 can't handle a 55w cpu lol (: Just can't figure out how to increase its multipliers..
  6. Does anyone know how to OC 3920XM or any other unlocked CPU on a Y580? I just bought this 3920xm thinking I'd be able to increase its unlocked multipliers but unable to in both the BIOS and Intel XTU (as well as throttlestop). I assumed the ICC registers lock in BIOS would be lifted once an unlocked CPU was detected. If you have the 3720qm or are able to help me, please reply or send me a PM. Thanks.
  7. I have personally done an eGPU setup with a GTX 970, except I used PE4L, not PE4H (I plan on upgrading to this next). With that being said, there is no need for any soldering to be done. I'm pretty sure the only difference between PE4H and PE4L is the actual interface the GPU will be connected to, where everyone else remains the same e.g. the other end of the flat, mini-HDMI cable, which is a mPCIe connector. The ports you're able to use (that I know for sure and have personally tried) are the WIFI and "LAN" ports. The LAN port is right next to the WIFI one, in your picture where you have the teal-colored X. Obviously the ideal port to use is the one for WIFI because you don't have to tape the mPCIe cable since they only come in half-length sizes and secondly the WIFI port is an odd-numbered port (which is what you want). In regards to your comment on the "8 available PCI lanes" you have to realize that some of those are already being used by 660m, GbE port(Ethernet), WLAN port, LAN port, and I think the mSATA and SATA are the other two. BTW, when you first setup your eGPU, you will want to make sure wireless lan is enabled under configuration if you decide to use the WLAN port; for the LAN port you will want to go under advanced -> peripheral -> enable lan and disable the option underneath that pops up after enabling. Regardless of which port you use, you have to set PCIE reset and ASPM to disabled, and PEG0, 1, 2, 3 to Gen 2 under advanced->video.
  8. First off, all of these questions you're desperately wanting the answer to have already been answered and could be located using a simple "search thread" query. The 2.XX BIOS version is the default/stock for those who purchased the y580 which had Windows 7 already installed. The 8.XX BIOS is for the Y580s which came with Windows 8/8.1 installed. If you had a laptop that had Windows 7 as the stock OS and then installed Windows 8/8.1, you may or may not receive an annoying watermark and dysfunctional secure boot functionality which is a part of Windows 8/8.1. Since we're talking about any Y580 that had Windows 7 OS as stock, it will be running 2.XX BIOS version which was not made for Windows 8/8.1.The solution to this is to ofcourse flash the 8.XX BIOS version. But be warned Make sure you do exactly what <insert someone with a success story's name> did in order to get the results you want. There have been a lot of people who have successfully flashed an 8.XX BIOS on top of a 2.XX version. Search the thread for the how, I'm just telling you all the why. @bORZZ, you don't necessarily need this, but it allows you to change the short and long power limit duration & TDP, able to disable hyperthreading/cores/etc/etc and if you're planning on an eGPU setup, it is absolutely necessary to unlock the bios, 2.xx or 8.xx doesn't matter. Hit start, type cmd, right click -> run as admin -> cd <path of backup.bat> -> backup.bat -> enter
  9. Try restoring it via BIOS recovery. Search this thread for "bios recovery" and select my username in adv search, I posted a tut some pages back.
  10. I remember seeing this mentioned in earlier posts. Search the thread, you should find the solution.
  11. Or someone with an SPI programmer and some BIOS modding experience* EDIT: Is the microcode updated? New options? Are the release notes available somewhere?
  12. How to setup an eGPU with Y580: Buy/get a PE4L-PM060A adaptor, GPU, and an appropirate PSU which is able to provide steady 12V/16A (or you can use two PSUs if your PSU can provide it but not at a steady rate.). Although not necessary, go ahead and download svl7's unlocked BIOS here. When I was troubleshooting my setup to get it working, I reverted to stock BIOS thinking the problem lied there, but eventually upon random startups, it would be buggy, and sometimes take a while AFTER rebooting for the display to switch from the internal LCD to an external monitor. Unlocking it lets you change an option that the stock does not allow, it also lets you tweak some other settings which may improve CPU performance. Go into the BIOS, and under configuration, change SWITCHABLE GRAPHICS to UMA GRAPHICS. If you've unlocked it, go to Advanced settings, then to Video settings, select PCI Graphics (or PCI express, ... I'm writing this from memory), then change primary display to Auto-selected. For some better CPU performance, go to the power tab, CPU settings, then disable C-States, disable MSR Lock, and set the last two settings to the maximum. You can do this by hitting f6/f5 (can't remember which) after highlighting the option. Hit F10 to save and exit. If you don't have Throttlestop 6.0 already, download it, start it, and go to TPL settings (which are now unlocked thanks to disabled MSR Lock), and change 26 to 56 for the time setting, then set the long and short TDP to however you see fit. I personally use 56 for long and 60 for short. Apply, OK. Uninstall your NVIDIA drivers (I recommend DDU) and Lenovo Power Management. Power down everything (duh) and plug the PE4L in the WiFi slot or the empty modem slot (WiFi slot is easier since you can screw it). Flip your laptop over so it is upright, making sure it's on a flat surface. Plug in your GPU and any necessary 6-pin cables from your PSU along with your SWEX. And last but not least the floppy molex, peripheral cable to 4 pin cable onto the PE4L adaptor itself. If you don't have SWEX, you can just grab a paperclip, cut it into a U shape, put one end on the green wire hole space thing on the 20/24 ping PSU power cable and the other end in any black one (there is a black wire right next to the green). Place electric tape over the exposed part of the paperclip to secure it. If by chance your PSU *should* be capable, but you are having issues (like me), you can use two PSUs by having the second PSU power the PE4L adapter using the floppy molex. Use a second SWEX if you have one, or do the paper clip method. [*]Power up both PSUs (the GPU fan/s should be spinning), wait a second then turn on your y580, install drivers and enjoy. I'll post pics later. 3DMARK11. 6111 seems to be my max, since I can't push the clocks further than 1084/3225 core/mem, but it's probably that I don't have a "proper" PSU and/or know the right voltage. Here's a vantage score, I only ran it once since I don't use it very often.
  13. How to setup an eGPU with Y580: Buy/get a PE4L-PM060A adaptor, GPU, and an appropirate PSU which is able to provide steady 12V/16A (or you can use two PSUs if your PSU can provide it but not at a steady rate.). Although not necessary, go ahead and download svl7's unlocked BIOS here. When I was troubleshooting my setup to get it working, I reverted to stock BIOS thinking the problem lied there, but eventually upon random startups, it would be buggy, and sometimes take a while AFTER rebooting for the display to switch from the internal LCD to an external monitor. Unlocking it lets you change an option that the stock does not allow, it also lets you tweak some other settings which may improve CPU performance. Go into the BIOS, and under configuration, change SWITCHABLE GRAPHICS to UMA GRAPHICS. If you've unlocked it, go to Advanced settings, then to Video settings, select PCI Graphics (or PCI express, ... I'm writing this from memory), then change primary display to Auto-selected. For some better CPU performance, go to the power tab, CPU settings, then disable C-States, disable MSR Lock, and set the last two settings to the maximum. You can do this by hitting f6/f5 (can't remember which) after highlighting the option. Hit F10 to save and exit. If you don't have Throttlestop 6.0 already, download it, start it, and go to TPL settings (which are now unlocked thanks to disabled MSR Lock), and change 26 to 56 for the time setting, then set the long and short TDP to however you see fit. I personally use 56 for long and 60 for short. Apply, OK. Uninstall your NVIDIA drivers (I recommend DDU) and Lenovo Power Management. Power down everything (duh) and plug the PE4L in the WiFi slot or the empty modem slot (WiFi slot is easier since you can screw it). Flip your laptop over so it is upright, making sure it's on a flat surface. Plug in your GPU and any necessary 6-pin cables from your PSU along with your SWEX. And last but not least the floppy molex, peripheral cable to 4 pin cable onto the PE4L adaptor itself. If you don't have SWEX, you can just grab a paperclip, cut it into a U shape, put one end on the green wire hole space thing on the 20/24 ping PSU power cable and the other end in any black one (there is a black wire right next to the green). Place electric tape over the exposed part of the paperclip to secure it. If by chance your PSU *should* be capable, but you are having issues (like me), you can use two PSUs by having the second PSU power the PE4L adapter using the floppy molex. Use a second SWEX if you have one, or do the paper clip method. [*]Power up both PSUs (the GPU fan/s should be spinning), wait a second then turn on your y580, install drivers and enjoy. I'll post pics later. As I mentioned before, I'm using a GTX 660, non-Ti version. 3DMARK11. 6111 seems to be my max, since I can't push the clocks further than 1084/3225 core/mem, but it's probably that I don't have a "proper" PSU and/or know the right voltage. Here's a vantage score, I only ran it once since I don't use it very often.
  14. Hey all, I just wanted to share that eGPU is possible with y580 and here is a benchmark demonstrating that: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8603835 Will post a guide soon.
  15. Here's the score with the 3610QM TDP tweaks via throttlestop 6.0 & (possible placebo) custom timer resolution @ max 0.5 ms & +memory clock http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8603835 EDIT: Sorry for the double post
  16. Sure thing, and I never use the internal LCD, except for when I want to toy with BIOS, so this is all on my external tv via HDMI. I just flashed my modded BIOS, will post a score.
  17. Try to do what I did. Use nvidia inspector to force the pstate which allows for custom clocks. It's different for every card, and just because we don't/didn't have the same issue doesn't mean this will/won't solve it. Worth a shot. I used this as a reference. nVIDIA mobile Kepler 6xx MASTER overclocking guide. Workaround for max clocks/OC stability.
  18. I've been underclocking it before trying to put some load on it since the start. Only problem with that is I can't figure out what combinations of memory, core clocks, and voltage offsets to use. Too low and it will crash followed by an auto reboot. Also, I can't seem to get any undervoltage settings to stick. I'm using nvidia inspector. 928/2153 for core and memory clocks is the lowest I've gone. Along with 60% power & temp target. Also, I've successfully attached two PSUs, but I'm getting the same problem. I'm going to try the other 6+2 pin cable and some lower clocks. I'll report my results. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! $~#$~@#$@# I finally got it working. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8603355 @anyone with a Y580 & trouble with eGPU, this might be useful The trick was doing a -forcepstate 0,2. This bench was with identical settings as before when it was crashing, so I guess there is an issue in my BIOS which has trouble dealing with the dynamic boost clocks. My stock, default VBIOS for the 660M is integrated with my main BIOS, so I think this may be where the main issue lies. I've been using a bios I modded based on slv7's modded bios for higher 660m voltage, but changed it back to stock thinking it was the problem with my eGPU setup. The unlocked BIOS would be better to use since it allows the changing of link speeds for all the PCI ports && CPU tweaks for better performance that would not be available in stock BIOS. GLHF
  19. Which PSU should the SWEX be on? I'm assuming the one with the 6-pin? Thanks for helping me out btw. EDIT: Scratch that, I think I need two SWEX adapters to use two, otherwise one PSU would remain off. Or would it be possible to: --- Key --- PSU1 = has 6-pin pcie power PSU0 = does not ----------- use the 20 pin power plug from PSU1 and the 4 pin from PSU2 on the SWEX switch?
  20. Not sure if I understand you correctly. Do you mean use a PSU without a 6-pin pcie and one with the 6-pin together? If that's the case, I have another PSU (in fact, I have ~2-3) without 6-pin power. If that's what you meant, then how would I set it up?
  21. I've been doing most of my troubleshooting on the gen1 x1 default 1,2 switch. I'm using an "eagle voltas" 600W PSU. Model: ET-PSVT600E. Specs are: DC output, max output +3.3V, 28A +5V, 34A +12V1, 17A +12V2, 19A -12V, 1.5A +5Vsb, 2.5A This PSU has less than a year's worth of use, so I don't think deterioration is an issue. It's also the only PSU, with 6 pin PCI cables, I have; so I'd rather downclock/downvolt before getting another PSU. That is, if this PSU is incapable. There is also a 115V/230V red switch on the back of it, which is set to 115V (if relevant), but I'm in the US, so I think it's supposed to be 115V. There are also two empty ports on the PE4L adapter, one is a USB and the other is a standard circular DC port like the ones routers use. I'm assuming for my setup those two should remain empty?
  22. Alright, so I'm stuck now. I have a PE4L-PM060A, Gigabyte GTX 660 and a Y580. I was able to successfully detect the gtx 660 using the slot where the wifi card is usually occupying. My problem is that whenever I put it under medium - high load, it will (sometimes) hang/freeze/BSOD or (most of the time) auto-reboot. I know the GPU isn't borked because I tested it in my desktop. I know PSU isn't the issue because I used it when I was testing the GPU in my desktop. I THINK the PE4L is fine because I was able to successfuly use my old GT 220 in benchmarks and under heavy loads, using the same PSU. I used DDU to uninstall my previous 660m driver, then installed latest drivers for the gtx 660. I've also tried the red and black jumper cables, and both pci 6 pin cables on my PSU (one of the 6 pin cables also has what looks like an optional, 2 pin, if that matters). I disabled discrete graphics in my BIOS. The integrated graphics, Intel HD 4000, must not be disabled from what I've gathered googling, so I didn't touch any other BIOS settings. I even tried a different mpcie slot on my laptop, which is for an optional modem card I think. I have also tried ALL combinations of the two switches (for 1,2 x1 lane / 2,3 x2/4/8/16 lanes && "dealy"/delay) on the actual PE4L adapter. One last thing I tried before giving up was switching from the 4 pin peripheral ---> (smaller) 4 pin cable adapter to the natural/regular small 4 pin cable. I've read a couple posts where an eGPU setup on the y580 was 100% working. So, I know I something isn't right. Someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong & help me out! D: EDIT: To clarify, what I mean by medium-heavy load is anything that is not the GPU-Z render test ^^
  23. Yeah, it crashes. And by crashes I mean it become unresponsive to the point where a hard reboot is required.
  24. Hey, do you think you could help me with an issue I'm having? I just bought a GTX 660 & PE4L-PM60xxA. I disabled my 660m discrete gpu through bios, and was able to have the gtx 660 detected. My problem now is, every time I go to run any 3D application, I'll either get a BSOD, or it will reboot automatically. Also, whether or not relevant, I should add that the LCD monitor on my laptop looks like it is on, but it's black. As in, only the screen's backlight is on, but no image is displayed. I'm currently using an external display via HDMI, which is working. I have all switches on 1_2. Another point which might be worth mentioning is: after trying to run 3dmark11, it returned an error stating out-of-memory exception has occurred. I have been unable to reproduce this error, since it just BSODs or auto reboots. I am running Windows 8.1.
  25. Also, when I try and run a benchmark, sometimes it'll return an error: "out-of-memory"... I have 8 GB of regular ram, card has 2gb. So...? Any help is appreciated.
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