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Dang the MSI single 1080 has 9 Power phases. Versus the 4+2  or 6 +2 on the Clevo's ? 

Either ways the MSI ones seem to be way more robust. 

13 hours ago, Brian said:

 

Fortunately for now the market for the 1% enthusiast like you that want what you listed still exists. But for how much longer is the real question? If Clevo begins to retreat from upgradeable notebooks then it should be a signal to everyone that the ship has sailed for those type of notebooks because we certainly can't count on the likes of Dell and others to deliver. Speaking of lugging around these powerbooks, I think it would be interesting to put up a poll that asks AW 18/Clevo/MSI Titan owners (if any exist) how often they take their notebooks away from their desks. 

Problem is, they could have kept the ship sailing for much longer. But with the amount of customers they are about to loose because of the shenanigans they just pulled. Might as well call it quits right now.

11 hours ago, J95 said:

 

Clevo 1080

 

MSI 1080

 

Cutting corners, besides the obvious Cubist adventure *Duchamp* Gone, gone, gone missing Inductors, Caps and MOSFETs...filling pockets. Hopefully MSI's 1080 won't include this wonderful EC feature.

 

Lesson learned: don't trust Clevo with anything beyond 1K.

 

Very true, not sure why there are so many components missing on the Clevo cards, this is to hoping the MSI cards are usable in our P870DM-G. At least with a BIOS update. But then again, they will need a entirely custom heat sink .

4 hours ago, Prema said:

Same panel. As of today it's the best professional 17" 4K Notebook panel that money can buy.

IPS, 100% Adobe RGB, G-Sync...

Overclocking is pretty much a no-go and maxes out at 64Hz.

Definitely agree on that, i enabled the internal display yesterday for a few hours and immediately missed having not used it for so long, its a thing of beauty specially after proper calibration. 

Done. 

Im just feeling weird after spending so much on a system that was supposed to be upgrade able without too many issues. Though yes, its a bit too early to draw any conclusions, without all the parts being easily available, hence the feeling weird part. 

Im going to keep the system though, not going to sell it at a loss, this system wont sell for anything more than $2500 tbh. Maybe more if someone is lucky enough, but im not willing to loose any money on system that isn't even 6 months old. 

@J95

True, we P870DM-G owners have been burned, but from the new Clevo GPU boards, seems clevo is going to maintain that for the future releases. But only time will tell, who knows the new owners will get burned next year as well. 

8 hours ago, D2ultima said:

So, I was right? This new design will be Clevo's new "standard" so later models should be upgrade-able even though MXM standard design is dead? Kind of like a turning point? I was hoping this would be the case. Sucks for previous gen owners, but that'd leave some hope on the table.

 

Hehehe. Headphones, sir. Who cares about a little jet engine ;). But even so, that's a huge discrepancy. I at least hope that was an outlier and it'll get down to 70-75 if the other is ~64c (hopefully a bad paste job or whatnot). I hope to see more! I hope you get your review unit soon =D.

 

This sounds good and bad at the same time, but as long as a 4.5GHz or higher chip can handle the load I'm good. I don't care if max fans are required, as long as I can heavily stress both (gaming at 120fps while running some solid CPU encoding, either livestreaming or recording) and be fine, I'll be good with it =D.

Im sure a little bit of @Prema caressing the EC will fix that.

8 hours ago, Prema said:

 

The ES/QS 1070 boards had all MOSFETs soldered, just like its bigger brother. The MP boards are missing two.

Apart from that difference it's just GDDR5 Vs. GDDR5x and some smaller components.

Clevo wants to use this MXM format across the board going forward...   

 

AUO B173HAN01.2 AHVA (IPS-ish)

 

The new cards come with an EC communication signal for the new power ports (No signal no boot). This had to be 'tricked' in older models in order for the cards to fire up...

That is a good news so so speak, standard form factor is always welcome.

I have seen that panel on sale on Aliexpress so many times , if i knew it was 120hz i would have bought to experiment long time back xD 

At least it should be compatible using the normal 30 pin eDP cable.  Now i cant seem to find it anywhere, there were 3-4 listings of the x.2 revision last month.

That is somewhat alarming, and makes me skeptical if it will be possible to use it our systems even with a cable mod.

Just now, Mr. Fox said:

Unfortunately, that is not the case this time... at least not yet. Something could change. 

 

What has been shared are benchmark images provided to me by Eurocom. So, unless that changes we won't see examples of the full overclocked capabilities of this beast until @Prema or @Johnksss have purchased and received one. 

Ahhh. 

Just now, Mr. Fox said:

It looks that way from the examples. Maybe there is a variation of 1070 that we have no example of to share yet that will work in older machines and in the P870DM-G with 980M SLI heat sinks that is yet to be revealed. It does not appear the version shown will fit since it appears to be the same PCB as 1080. More to follow once more becomes available.

Aye, will it be possible to get the exact panel details on the 120hz AUO ?

Just now, ajc9988 said:

Different memory forms! More differences I'm sure, but now begins the fight for who wins the form standard and compromises as they can now factory overclock cards for mobile...

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Gotcha, im just  jumping across tabs , trying to soak in as much info as possible. 

But more than the laptop im actually excited about @Mr. Fox having a review unit. 

Nice!!

is it just me or do the 1080 and 1070 boards seem exactly the same , only difference being a different core? 

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

So, now that you have seen more of what's offered out there, thanks to Brother @Prema, let's have a closer looks at what is really offered... performance results.

 

Below are a few stock benchmarks for everyone to drool over. Sorry there are not more examples. We will add them as they become available. (I have specifically requested examples for Fire Strike, Time Spy and Sky Diver benchmarks.)

 

PHOENIX 2.0 - 1080 SLI - Stock Benches

 

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PHOENIX 2.0 - Single 1080 (SLI Disabled) - Stock Benches

 

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(Please hold your thoughts about single 1080 versus 1080 SLI until we have more than one benchmark to look at.)

 

Here is a quick video of the machine that donated the initial round of benchmarks for us to look at. Kudos to Eurocom for giving us some special things to share at launch! I think you may find something interesting under the hood. 

 

 

Did i call it or what?? XD

Get ready for my PM barrage. 

Sweet! Gonna give 369.05 a shot later today with some benches. Happy camper on 368.25 for a while now. 

13 hours ago, J95 said:

No problem, I just received my P870DM-G , currently messing with the GPU heat sink...btw outstanding cooling system.

 

Yeah its beefy. I did mod my heat sink to kingdom come though, and working on a better version of the same mod.

22 hours ago, Khenglish said:

 

Do you plan on trying something similar? I killed over a half dozen cores before I did a successful swap, so if you do you want to start on hardware that is much cheaper.

 

Yeah, a friend has a dead desktop 980 (82% ASIC), which died because of multiple PCB scratches. (he blames the cat, i believe otherwise)

Thinking of swapping over the core in my current 980 (notebook) with that one. 

But as you say, i might get a low end 7XX series to figure things out first.

Holy shit wow!! Congrats! You are a freaking legend, and you just broke my wallet.

Do you think the solder will melt using a hot air station. ?

Thank you for the amazing drivers @J95 , @Mr. Fox Told me about these, im one of the bloaks from NBR, figured id come say thank you!

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/21671

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9225544

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9224955

Sup, fellas bloodhawk here from the NBR forums. Some of the members from there might have seen my obnoxious posts