Mr_Western

@choraltrickster Is it crashing with other games? You got Crysis or some other GPU intensive game? Try other games and see if the problem persist, but from the initial symptoms it can be a power problem. Try reducing the power limit from 100% to 80% using MSI afterburner and see how things run.

@namerder7 Yes this is a known issue of the eGPU setup, You require a software called setup 1.3 to fix this issue (yes it will cost you). Its something to do with how the system allocated system resources. Something you can try in the mean time with all your RAM is hotswapping the eGPU.

@grayson72 Stated power needs on NVIDIA site for a card is the power needed for the entire system, not just the card, so his power supply should be adequate. @spartan463 You should not rule out your PSU just yet, see if your brother is willing to lend you his PSU to run the card in your eGPU setup. if you use his 375W PSU and it runs fine for however long then maybe your PSU (on your current eGPU build) might be going bad.

@choraltrickster To address your concerns; your chosen hardware should be good enough (though I would push for a GTX 9XX series card, but if you got a price you cant resist then go for it), as for the PCIe concerns, it matters not what PCIe version your laptop is and your chosen eGPU is, which ever card you use would just operate at PCIe 2.0 at 1x speed. Using high textures would impact frames in triple A games so look out for that.

@spartan463 If you have MSI afterburner installed, can you drop the power limit from 100% to 80% just as a test and see if it crashes, I had that issue and dropping mines to 95% fixed the issue (don't worry, there won't be any noticeable performance drop).

hmmm it seems that the name I had stated in this reply got censored, maybe you have to check someone else about using setup 1.x

@Arbystrider Hmmm, I will keep that in mind

@Arbystrider Mind posting a link to show this (for my knowledge), I know that Kepler chips was getting DX12 support but OPTIMUS is another thing. For cards between the GTX 500 series and the GTX 800 series, only the mobile versions support OPTIMUS. Only until the GTX 900 series when the full fat desktop GPU's was being put into laptop that both variants had to support OPTIMUS, and now that the GTX 1000 series no longer has a mobile variant, it to has to support OPTIMUS natively. But please enlighten me with a link or two. @Draqen If you try to hot swap back from your GPU to your wifi card, the computer would give errors. Setup 1. suppose to alleviate this problem of hotswapping, you might have to find ****** and talk to him about it.

@Arbystrider The information I quoted was straight from NVIDIA site, check it out here . Mind you cards that run the GTX XXXm (the "M" is what I am looking at here) had OPTIMUS supported from the GTX 500m series and up. The GTS XXX cards was not quoted in that list but I did read somewhere that some of them supported it.

@tiubxray Sorry for putting you in a tail spin, but I should have done my research before informing you. The gt 500m series and up, and the the GTX 800m series and up and the GTX 900, 1000 series and up support OPTIMUS . For more information check out NVIDIA official list of OPTIMUS supported cards. P.S. I initially though it was the GTX 600 and up that supported the OPTIMUS, but I was wrong, so that means your GTX 760 does not support OPTIMUS, was again sorry for putting you in a tail spin.

@tiubxray Its not necessarily the laptop but the GPU that would have to support the OPTIMUS. If ever in the future you upgrade your eGPU to something like a GTX750ti or something like that, you would be able to use your internal laptop screen. Note: Using internal screens drops the performance, go with a GPU with about 4GB of VRAM (if you are ever looking to upgrade) and using eGPU solution would have issues with DX12 and VULKAN games as the game leverages more CPU into the mix and requires more PCIe bandwidth (which on a 1x slot is very limited).

@tiubxray Sadly you may not be able to use your internal screen. You need NVIDIA OPTIMUS to do this and it is only supported on what I believe to be GTX 6XX cards and up. Maybe there is some possible work around, but the proper way to do it is via OPTIMUS (that's how laptops with NVIDIA GPU's can display on both its internal and external monitors).

@tiubxray Are you sure your laptop GPU is properly disabled, if you are seeing it in your device manager it is not disabled properly. However, to display to your external screen, press (windows key + P) and select external monitor; or you can go into NVIDIA control panel and select the external display.

@tiubxray Hmm strange, if your setup is working somewhat and you don't want to mess with it then leave it, if you want to tinker a bit here is what I would do since something seems off with the sleep option. Sleep option seems to require some sort of GPU either integrated or dedicated; if when you uninstall the dedicated GPU drivers and the sleep option goes away it would be that you do not have an integrated GPU installed. (I am assuming you have Intel) Go to intel drivers site and see what drivers there are (HD XXXX graphics drivers that is) and install it, to know if it has installed properly there should be an option for intel graphics somewhere about on your system. Once this is good (you have integrated graphics running) uninstall all GPU drivers (not the Intel graphics though) and repeat the hotswap process and see what happens. That last thing you state is about the GPU's fighting for PCIe bandwidth, if you right click and view properties on either of them you would see error 12. Try what I mentioned above and see if it resolves the error 12, if not we message back. P.S. Its always useful to include your full system specs, it makes troubleshooting easier.

@tiubxray Try hot swaping the GPU into the system: Directions for hotswaping: -Start your laptop as normal with your wifi card in the system -Once the laptop has started and within windows, put the laptop to sleep -Once the laptop is asleep, remove the wifi-card and put in the mCPIe cable into the slot -Once you are assured everything is plugged in correctly wake the laptop -If the laptop starts and the GPU coughs into live you are good; if you get a black screen something is not right

@zeroonea Press (windows key) + (P) and click the last option, which should be use only external monitor.

@vrian and @talclipse Starting without the wifi card and then putting in the eGPU will create a black screen (even if you put the laptop to sleep). The BIOS needs to see the wifi card on boot in order for the whitelist to be circumvented.

@vrian Not all laptops would be the same, my compaq was plug and play but my dell was not. I am not sure how you did it, but you I don't think it is possible to put a laptop to sleep without the iGPU drivers installed. Reinstall your iGPU drivers and try the sleep method again. @Joe Gonzo I was doing a bit of research on your laptop and it seems that if you disable certain things, it can render your expresscard slot disabled as well, such as USB (check this link out, its pertaining to your laptop). As far as I am concerned, I don't think you would need to disable anything (except for you laptop GPU) to get your expresscard slot to use the eGPU dock. My suggestion now that I have read that document which I linked is to re-enable everything you have disabled, boot into windows as normal and plug the device into the slot and wait a good 15 minutes; I got a problem with my compaq and eGPU where it had took a while to realize something else was in the mPCIe slot (which I had plugged into before I booted). Oh and if you have another expresscard device try it and see if it works, and see if there are any drivers from HP pertaining to expresscard drivers

@zeroonea Thanks for the research man, a lot of people is going to appreciate the time you spent figuring out how to make an HDMI extension (as the original one was too short imo) @Plastixx Check the steps I had used in my DIY guide I posted before and see if it helps: https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/5194-exp-gdc-beastares-v7v6-discussion/&do=findComment&comment=150916 There are specific steps I took on what I did to get rid of the error 12 message @Joe Gonzo Here is something you can try, once you are satisfied that all the other display drivers are gone (NOT INTEL GRAPHICS, KEEP THOSE) put your laptop to sleep and hot swap the GPU in, once you booted, manually download the drivers for you card from NVIDIA website and try running it. Two things can happen, it would install the driver or it will say your system isn't compatible (because the card isn't detected). This way you are sure it isn't Windows that is not playing around. FYI don't disable your LAN, that is your only means of internet and if that is disabled, windows won't be able to download any (basic) drivers for your card (as far as I know).

@Plastixx Error 12 means that there isn't enough space available for your PCIe device to work properly, when I got this issue, disabling my laptop GPU in the device manager helped. I saw you said that you disabled your laptop GPU via the BIOS, but can you check in your device manager and ensure it is properly disabled, make sure to view hidden devices and then look under the Display adapters nest. Also I am assuming you used DDU to remove the previous GPU drivers. @cunning_fridge Its not necessary to buy the software, error 12 means the you need to free up some resources that is currently utilizing the PCIe. Ensure your laptop GPU is disabled properly before continuing and ensure that your previous GPU drivers are properly removed. @JediPartTime Since you have mentioned Radeon I am assuming you are using an AMD card. As such AMD cards won't be able to display onto the laptop screen as NVIDIA GPU would allow for. This is because NVIDIA uses optimus to communicate with the CPU and would allow for rendered images via the GPU to be routed to the laptop screen. @zeroonea The cable used in the eGPU adapter (mPCIe to HDMI) uses its own special wiring, as such using a regular HDMI cable (to extend the length) would not work since the HDMI cables have wires that cross over each other (like twisted pairs in ethernet cables) and as such won't carry the signal to the correct terminal

@n3uralhack3r Nah I'm still here, I'll help anyone who comes my way; I know the pain of not being able to play your favorite game.

@Chewy I am trying to help you; you say I work with gearbeast and I specifically said in my reply to stick with your website if you want to get the eGPU adapter cheaper. And I will state it again, once you state to the supplier that you are from the US they will ship with the US compatible power adapter.

@Chewy I meant no insult as to the Chinese thing, it was an advice as to stay away from things you cannot understand (i as well is included there). I should inform you as to what those 2 links you initially posted is about, the link to the metal "thing" chassis is not a power supply unit to give your GPU and your eGPU adapter power, it is merely a housing and will not offer any additional powering. The second link is for just the eGPU adapter no power adapter included; though you can use that link to get the eGPU adapter cheaper than the US$55.00 i showed you. The adapter you saw from me for US$70.00 was including a power adapter (hence the price) and will be compatible with US power system once you verify this to the seller (however, I had a PSU at home so I opted for the choice without the additional dell power adapter).

@Sgt Chaos66 Here is the link from where I got my card, but I had gotten it when there was a sale October gone, I had gotten it for US$128 total cost in hand: https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce-Mini-Graphic-MINI-GTX950-2G/dp/B01FL6SYZU/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1475361651&sr=1-4&keywords=gtx+950 @Sirios What are you getting at? just look for laptops that support x4 SSD's, that's the slot size for the type of M.2 SSD they use. @Chewy If you aren't Chinese, please stay away from things you cannot read and verify. Use these links accordingly to find what you need: EXP EDG Beast V8 with power adapter (8pin dell power adapter) http://www.gearbest.com/laptop-accessories/pp_229355.html EXP GDC Beast V8 without power adapter (got to use a PSU or 12V charger) http://www.gearbest.com/laptop-accessories/pp_229101.html

@Sgt Chaos66 Maybe I should explain my setup with a bit more detail (concerning the GPU side of things). I have a GTX 950 from ASUS which is dubbed "Mini", there is not additional 6 pin power connector on the card as with other GTX 950 (which would be the usual). As such this card is rated at 75 watts total power draw and gets all this power from the eGPU PCIe slot. I had somewhat of a power instability issue with my GTX 950 (either the slot was not supplying all 75 watts needed by the card or the card wanted more than 75 watts); whatever was the issue I reduced the "Power Limit" which isn't the same thing as underclocking to 85% of total power used by the card (this will not cause [much] performance lost of the card). Now to answer your question relating to the 150 watt power of the eGPU dock. The thing is I have had bad experience with the eGPU and power draw. I had tried a GTS250 (card rated at 150 watts) on the dock using my PSU to supply the extra power the card needed (which meant that I did not use the auxiliary 6 pin output of the beast nor did I max the beast dock of its 150 watt supply power); with this I had crashed multiple times and the only conclusion I could have come up with is that either the card was bad (albeit it was 6-7 years old, brought brand new) or the card was not getting all the power needed. Now it could be my PSU since that is old as well, but to get down to the crux of things, if the card is rated at 150 watts and you use the dock to supply all 150 watts (using the auxiliary 6 pin output) it suppose to work, with either supply the beast power through the 8 pin power in or the 12v power in.