Lee James Wood

Those links go nowhere on dells site other than community now, you still have the files ?

weird, this is a soldered on chip ?

We can help you modify the driver and install it, this way you can have latest drivers etc...

This is pretty facinating, would you mind joining my discord server when you want us to help you, this way we can do it in real time and share the info, I got to see this. 

This link will bring you to our chat server (Discord) whenever you want, if you want. If we find resolution we can share it here too, for a permanent hard copy.

On 10/08/2012 at 11:00 AM, svl7 said:

Dell has hidden a lot of options in the BIOS of the Alienware M17x R4, the modified BIOS versions here will show you all the hidden menus and allow you to further tweak your system and optimize its performance.

Don't change anything you're not familiar with. There might be functions available which don't work on your system, so use this BIOS with care. It should only be used by advanced users.

In case you mess up and your system refuses to boot after applying the changes you make, remove the AC adapter, battery and coin cell battery in order to clear the non-volatile ram of the BIOS. This should fix most issues.

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Instructions:

 

If you're on A05 or an earlier version, you can flash the modified bios by simply using the InsydeFlash utility provided with the official bios update on the Dell support site.

However, once you're on a version newer than A05, things get a bit more complicated. There are two options then:

 

- Method 1:

Revert to stock A05 or earlier by using the Insyde USB bios recovery method, and then flash the modified bios by using the official tools (InsydeFlash).

 

- Method 2 (recommended):

Flash the modified Bios from DOS by using the FPT tool:

 

NOTE: The flashing from DOS as described above will only update the BIOS, not the rest of the firmware. Therefore I strongly advise you to first flash the stock version of the bios you want by using the official update provided by Dell, and once that's done you can go ahead and flash the modified version of your bios by following the instructions above.

 

Download links to the unlocked M17x R4 BIOS versions:

 

 

• M17x R4 - BIOS A05 [unlocked]
• M17x R4 - BIOS A08 [unlocked] - see attachment
• M17x R4 - BIOS A09 [unlocked] - see attachment
• M17x R4 - BIOS A10 [unlocked] - see attachment
• [FPT] M17x R4 - BIOS A10 [unlocked] - see attachment
• [FPT] M17x R4 - BIOS A11 [unlocked] - see attachment

 

Donation link, in case you want to buy me a beer

Here some pictures of the menus (thanks a lot for the pics @deadbydawn!)

I want to thank @widezu69 for testing !!

It's hard to find users who are willing to risk their system in order to test a mod, I greatly appreciate this! Thank you!!

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Flash and use at your own risk. I don't take any responsibility for any possible damages on your system.

The software which I provide here ('prr tool') comes with absolutely no warranty to the extent permitted by applicable law.

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M17x_R4_-_BIOS_A08_[unlocked].zip

M17x_R4_-_BIOS_A09_[unlocked].zip

M17x_R4_BIOS_A10_-_[unlocked].zip

[FPT]-M17x_R4_BIOS_A11_-_[unlocked]V2.zip

[FPT] M17x R4 - BIOS A10 [unlocked].zip

M17x_R4_-_BIOS_A05_[unlocked].zip

 

 

can we use the prr2 tool here : https://www.techinferno.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=5951

because the link to the tool on this thread is dead/404

This thread is still helping people. 
A thank you to the OP for sharing once again, of course.

 

Guys on a side note, sometimes you send me messages and I get them really late, just ping me via discord server or PM on NBR which I check more often simply because of more volume.
I do not want to ignore anyone looking for me anywhere, but sometimes it happens from lack of activity or weeks inbetween browsing this forum (although I love TechInferno)

I would guess wrong file.  nvdispi might be possible too. But it might not be the nvcvi inf that we use for most mobile cards right now

 

 

Are you trying to use some riser card or cables on your laptop to run this card or some external solution  ?

This thread is still going decently strong. 

 

I haven't tried the 390.xx drivers yet. 

 

Last drive I was using I think is 388.xx but I did find issues on occasion, but I think it was windows update related, seems there was as few hotfixes and updates that would reset these drivers again , even AFTER the creative update. 

So YES 60Hz is possible with optimus thanks to the update from November actually working for the HD Intel (for a few months after it wouldn't install but otherwise was supporting pascal)

 

YES with a 120Hz panel 1060's will work flawlessly if you are in PEG mode for the graphics. If you have a 120Hz panel and an old 660/675/680M GPU that your running in legacy mode, then you need to get an unlocked bios, or find a way to switch to PEG.

 

Does anyone have the unlocked A12 bios ? (or link, please).

 

Also we have new EURO 1070 which works for Optimus, we had to change the vbios to limit the card to 90W in the Alienware systems, it' getting about 15,250 in the graphics score of the Firestrike. So about less then 10% the typical full powered desktop would get you but like 50% more then a 1060N.

We also have a EURO 1060 as well to match the MSI 1060N but have not yet tested it 100%. 

not all cards are the same, and the 670, I am wondering now if it was a 675M which were the 580M rebrands. That would only be as powerful as a 770M or 870M, in which case a 860M would most of the time be slower. 

 

You could overclock it and run it at like 80C with a 20% OC or something..  

2 hours ago, AndreBLJ said:

Hello there, I really need some help.
After installing any of the drivers from here I always get black screens while in game.

I tried: 378.49, 378.92 and latest 385.41.

I always use DDU for a clean uninstall before trying new drivers and obviously install them after DSE. I tried the modded infs provided here and also tried after modding myself (but with mine I get black screen also when installing the drivers so I stopped using my modded infs, even though I followed the guide).

 

My setup is:
AW 17 R5 (Win 10 - PEG Dedicated Mode) with upgrade to GTX 1070 (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BE1&SUBSYS_05AE1028)

I have to say that it was working great on drivers 378.49 BEFORE the latest Windows 10 Creators Update. After the Win update my gpu card was detected as "unkown" in Device Manager and I reinstalled same drivers (378.49). After that I had black screens so I successfully did a rollback to previous-Win Update and I blocked the Win10 Creators Update.
Now the problem is I still meet the black screens and can't find any driver to work properly.

Also, this is the error found in the Event log: nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered

 

Check to see the card is installed properly and is not damaged, or "burnt' anywhere.

check under the card too. Maybe when placing it back, play with it a bit, and take notice if the fit is 100% as good as it needs to be, check angles to see if things are lined up and are flat and parallel.

 

Lets just assume your panel is still working and not this other random black panel weirdness we had a few years ago...

 

Now if the card is fine....

 

make sure you are in dedicated mode and using a 120Hz panel and not trying to run the card on Optimus through the HD Intel graphics switchable graphics technology.

 

If your running on the Switcheable tech, then your success in running  the card depends on support in the HD intel graphics, the chipset, the AWCC and MEI being up to date as well as having the right NVidia driver installed too. Most the time the HD intel graphics from official sites has no support for pascal, and Windows update does not usually include the one with Pascal support (least last i checked) and manually downloading the latest versions sometimes do not even install so it's tricky. 

 

If unsure, any HD graphics from after last year should be fine. 

 

On the dedicated front, to switch to dedicated mode, you will need a digital panel like the eDP display - lets say you have that.

Then you need to install windows, go through it as usual - you might not be able to get the Creative update - for some reason.

once in windows make sure to have the OSD and AWCC installed and chipset before attempting to install the modified driver. Best to just do the graphics last actually, even after the sound card. Rebooting many times until everything is updated - except the anniversary update. 

 

To install the driver when it comes time, you will need to disabled DSE and run the setup as admin on the modified drivers.

If you can find your harwdare ID might be a recent driver here for you : http://downloads.eurocom.com/support/drivers/upgradeyourlaptop/Alienware/

 

in worst case use the one I gave you originally or send me an email and I'll send you what I got. 

Oh nice, we got our own server up and running ?

 

Anyone have a free copy of the game or known where the best price is ?

 

I'd love to waste some time inbetween sales and work in this game with you guys!

check your PCH, it might be the cause of your throttling and over heating...

Yes, feel free to go ahead and skip those. 

well congratz on the amazing upgrade and thanks for sharing ~!

here is stock speeds for an AW17 I just modded for the same 1070 version.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19211309

 

So as you can see, your 1070 there is performing admirably. In my bench here, the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU maybe up to 10%

 

Oh another thing, not trying to advertise my services, but when i sell a 1070 or any videocard for that matter, I make sure it has the right vbios on it to avoid having extra issues. 

 

I do not use SVL7 or Prema vbioses, ours are not overvolted as a means to get them stable, we just use better vbioses. However, I would LOVE to work with Prema or SVL7 but there's been no communication back and forth me and them for so many years...

@thegh0sts you wierdo, what crazy experiment are you up to now, hahaha. 

I just saw this thread now, or I would have joined in long ago. I could do cuts like this for you in the future if you need with my dremel (you sooo should buy one, such an awesome tool for this work!)

There is an alternative I can think of, for you instead of using heatsinks on the components directly with glue. You could have attached a cut out modified heatsink fin block to the heatsink there, and made it compatible. 

 

Like buy a few heatsinks from ebay for cheap, and cut the fins and attach a pipe etc..

On 13/12/2016 at 5:52 AM, Papusan said:

Thanks for the help bro @Mr. Fox

I have sent a new feedback mail to Futuremark v/jarlo Kokko for the 10th time... Futuremark have said long time ago to me in the mail that "They have reproduced in-house and investigation is ongoing" I have send them a lot of result for their investigation. Nothing happens as you can see in the pictures - links!!!

 And when they finally push out the new <FIXED> 3DM version after 3 months, so is the 3DM benchmark software in an even worse condition...

Like the last time... New 3DM suite UI 2.2.3488 64 version out 9th Dec. = Fiasko!! Then they need to push out an even newer one because the trouble witht the first one out... 1 day later aka 10th Dec. The newest messed up come out <UI 2.2.3491 64>.

Same mess happened last two time as well(I think in July and Aug). Futuremark have BIG problems with their 3DM Suite!!!

See results. Both older UI versions 2.0.2067_64 and 2.0.2809_64 will give 15002 in Physics with [email protected] and both 2 latest drivers from Nvidia!! Newer UI versjons of 3DM Suite will give up to 400 points lower physics in fire Strike. All tested with same Nvidia drivers, stock graphics and 4.8GHz on processor.

Mine tests!!(Papusan)
Tested with latest Nvidia driver 375.95
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/11036017/fs/11035883#
 

 

Tested with latest Nvidia driver 376.19
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/11049261/fs/11057220

 

 

what is, hypothetically, you hacked your install inf file and renamed the driver version your installing to a different one, does it change the score ? I ask this because I;ve always wondered if they are in league with INTEL and NVidia in the way that they assign handicaps to older hardware and assign a "BOOST" score to newer / next gen once it's released, to sort of bloat numbers in thier favor of selling hardware.  They do after all design hardware to be replaced regularly, they are not trying to do us any favors with this stuff after all. Its all just a money gimmick !

I have no idea what i meant to say, but didn't mean to call anyone any names, LOL... I think i meant to capitalise PREMA  and then I'm lost...  lol

 

Anyone know which MSI laptops that support MXM 3.0b that the 1060N does NOT work with ? At what model lineup does it start to have no support or ability to be used ?

Hey I watched all painful X minutes of the video... seems about 10+% drop in score Physics based. I can see this being an issue, but also an advantage to post your results ASAP! because people down the road will be less likely to beat you hahah

Just now, Mr. Fox said:

Looks at the links and the details in the video and then you tell me.

I fi have to read the post AND watch a video, then i want you to watch this : 

 

 

Enjoy !

what are we talking here a few points ? or like few % differences ?

On 31/08/2016 at 1:03 PM, munbeo said:

Hi I would like to bump this post as well. I was on windows 10, P150EM 970M with Bios and Vbios mod from Prema. After the Anniversary update my drivers stopped working so I rolled back the update and it still didn't help. I even rolled back to windows 7 and it doesn't work as well. Can you guys suggest me to try something else to get computer to switch to the card? Thanks

no one helped you fix this yet ?

 

Seems a lot of people getting throttling issues or only the HD intel being used thing.

 

ALSO – check to see if the program or game you want to use is in the list from NVidia control panel

 

As an example :

1. Go to the NVIDIA Control Panel by right clicking on your desk top and clicking on "NVIDIA Control Panel".

2. In the default screen that pops up (it should be "manage 3D settings", and the "Program Settings" tab should be automatically selected), under "1. Select a program to customize:" hit the "Add" button.

3. From here, navigate to the folder where your games are located. For me, it is C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common. (Because I have steam)

4. Select the folder for the game you want to use your NVIDIA card for, and find the .exe for that game (it's usually right in the main game folder). Select it and hit open.

5. Then, under "2. Select the preferred graphics processor for this program:" open the drop-down menu and select "High-performance NVIDIA processor".

If it still doesn't work try this :

 

When you right click a shortcut to play a game, do you get the option to “run with NVidia high powered graphics processor” ?

If there is no menu/option, this happens when these services are stopped :

1. NVIDIA Driver Helper Service

2. NVIDIA Update Service Daemon.

 

Start Task Manager .Click the tab "Services" .Click on a button named "Services ..." .Find their names .

Right click on them > Properties . Then Click on "Start " and then select Start-up time :

for the first ->Automatic

for the second -service > Automatic(Delayed Start)

 

Another tip is to uninstall the driver and delete the software, let the HD Intel be there though. Update it to the very latest version. Make sure you restart. Check all other software, and applications, like OSD's and command centers and MEI and chipsets etc.. make sure windows update has nothing waiting to be downloaded, or has already downloaded and is asking when to install...  let it complete all updates.

 

Once there are no more updates, install your preferred NVidia graphics driver, and see if that helps, if you do not see your game listed opr program of choice listed, add it. See if the context menu's are there or not.
You could also try being in full UEFI mode and dedicated mode, and skipping the HD intel altogether, but this is difficult for some cards and laptops and would be an "per case basis". The new Pascal cards of course need special attention depending what system, because as an example, DELL/Alienware never update anything. 

On 01/12/2016 at 11:04 PM, Mr. Fox said:

 

 

Here... http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10808163

Nice

On 05/12/2016 at 5:59 PM, Lucifer Nymphetamine said:

Good evening! I'm outdated, working like crazy, but reading on the surface, I assumed that the prema SWOT, is developing a MOD BIOS for veteran laptops, support the 1080m? : D
P570WM3 Still hope?

 won't fit AFAIK. It's not really a matter of supporting it bios wise.. then theres adding enough power correctly to the auxiliary power input.

On 17/11/2016 at 7:55 AM, Prema said:

In EM systems the MXM is connected to the iGPU (Intel) there is some sort of eDP-LVDS signal conversion before it reaches the screen.

BTW, stock EM BIOS hangs at boot and can neither reach BIOS nor Windows at all.

With the beta Mod it's all Plug'n'Play now including driver support. Will see if I can do a proper bench today after re-pasting to see how a stock result should look like (initial bench was a POC with throttle on CPU&GPU just to see if it can be made into something usable).  

ahh right.. go figure reading backwards.. 

 

any such mod/update for Alienware systems like M18X-R2/AW18/M17X-R3/R4 AW17 or M15X...

On 01/12/2016 at 11:04 PM, Mr. Fox said:

 

 

Here... http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10808163

HAHAHAH you meant like P150EM LOLOL... shit I must have been tired. Cracked me right the frig up.  See my brain is fried, business has been non-stop busy...

 

anyways nice work, great to see the performance of the 1060N  ( I started calling it 1060N, for notebook) .

 

Anything needed to get it work work properly in the older HM77 / HM87 chipsets ?  Any word on power loss issues on the AW17 ? Or maybe working with M17X-R4 ?

On 20/11/2016 at 10:15 AM, Prema said:

Yeah it's Clevos specific implementation that converts the eDP signal to LVDS and makes it work on the hardware side.

 

As promised posted an OC bench. Stock vBIOS with a lot of throttle, yet a 5 year old system beating all 2016 model:

BTW, OP updated with some GPU shots and power infos.

 

Any way to get them (1060N) to work in the older Alienware's like M17X-R4/ AW17 ?   Someone reported a few power loss issues, though it doesn't happen to me as often, it did happen once. I would go through this entire thread to see if this has been stated or not, but the site is slow to some regard, and it's such a hassle...  just curious what systems the 1060N would be an interest for, and what exactly is needed to make it work in older systems (did you create a new bios mod ? Did I miss something? Sorry been sooo busy lately.)

On 17/11/2016 at 7:55 AM, Prema said:

In EM systems the MXM is connected to the iGPU (Intel) there is some sort of eDP-LVDS signal conversion before it reaches the screen.

BTW, stock EM BIOS hangs at boot and can neither reach BIOS nor Windows at all.

With the beta Mod it's all Plug'n'Play now including driver support. Will see if I can do a proper bench today after re-pasting to see how a stock result should look like (initial bench was a POC with throttle on CPU&GPU just to see if it can be made into something usable).  

when your saying EM system, what do you mean, sorry not following the Acronym or I'm forgetful if I ever knew it. (is it a specific bios, like phoenix or Amibios or something ?)