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Hello guys, I have a MSI gt70 0nd with a 4gb 675mx and as of a week now, I am running into freezing issues whenever I am playing any game. It just sits there with looping audio and I have to hold down the power button to shut it down. Screen is stuck on the last frame of the game and I can't do anything at all to get a response other than holding down the power button to force shutdown. Once, it rebooted on its own when I just left it like that for a while just to see what it would do.

The thing is, I can play for around 15 minutes without any problems at all. It only starts freezing then. It happens both when overclocked or when completely at stock. Temps are completely fine, below 75C. I got lucky today when playing ds2 while windowed because it didn't freeze the entire computer, just the game which let me take this screenshot of gpuz after the game froze: https://imgur.com/DbAxWGc

As you can see there is a rather large spike in bus interface load (to 87%) just before it froze. I launched the game again (no restart nothing) and a short while afterwards, it froze again which let me take this screenshothttps://i.imgur.com/6CzHLhU.jpg

Normally it would freeze the entire PC but this time it only froze the game. This only occurred once, and every other time it freezes my entire laptop and I have to hold down the power button. I had reinstalled and rolled back my drivers normally at this point multiple times and since it didnt seem to be doing much, I used display driver uninstaller in safe mode to remove my nvidia drivers completely. I then did a clean install of 347.88whql and launched up ds2 again. This time I could play for about 45mins in fullscreen before it froze completely again. Issue still persists and I could only play for 50 mins that one time :( Anyone know what the high spikes in bus usage means? Any idea how to fix it?

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Sounds like an overheating issue but you mentioned that your PC remains cool. Which leads me to believe that the monitor is probably off or inaccurate when its near the freezing point. Otherwise if it is definitely not that, I would say there could be a possible problem with the GPU rendering certain frames. This sounds like a complicated problem and I can't think of any real solutions :/

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Sounds like an overheating issue but you mentioned that your PC remains cool. Which leads me to believe that the monitor is probably off or inaccurate when its near the freezing point. Otherwise if it is definitely not that, I would say there could be a possible problem with the GPU rendering certain frames. This sounds like a complicated problem and I can't think of any real solutions :/

Its definitely not an overheating issue. I know how hot it feels above 80C and it throttles at 89C and I monitor the clock speeds. I do not think the monitor is inaccurate but I had ramped up the fan speed in order to make sure. There really was not much difference in the time it took to freeze.

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Use HWinfo to monitor CPU and GPU temps while in game

I use msi afterburner along with HWinfo to get temps and other info ingame. Temperature doesn't seem to have any relation to the freeze but thank you for trying to help anyway :)

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I'd try a different driver. I enjoyed the game ready driver for Grand Theft Auto V. Seemed pretty good for all my games. I would still be using that but Windows 10 update broke it haha.

I've gotten that game freeze + audio loop a few times in the past, and I'm pretty certain I kept trying different drivers till it worked.

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I'd try a different driver. I enjoyed the game ready driver for Grand Theft Auto V. Seemed pretty good for all my games. I would still be using that but Windows 10 update broke it haha.

I've gotten that game freeze + audio loop a few times in the past, and I'm pretty certain I kept trying different drivers till it worked.

I have tried 347.52, 347.88, 352.86 and 344.11 and I still had the freezing. I will give this one a try as well and see what happens.

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Hello guys, I have a MSI gt70 0nd with a 4gb 675mx and as of a week now, I am running into freezing issues whenever I am playing any game. It just sits there with looping audio and I have to hold down the power button to shut it down. Screen is stuck on the last frame of the game and I can't do anything at all to get a response other than holding down the power button to force shutdown. Once, it rebooted on its own when I just left it like that for a while just to see what it would do.

The thing is, I can play for around 15 minutes without any problems at all. It only starts freezing then. It happens both when overclocked or when completely at stock. Temps are completely fine, below 75C. I got lucky today when playing ds2 while windowed because it didn't freeze the entire computer, just the game which let me take this screenshot of gpuz after the game froze: https://imgur.com/DbAxWGc

As you can see there is a rather large spike in bus interface load (to 87%) just before it froze. I launched the game again (no restart nothing) and a short while afterwards, it froze again which let me take this screenshothttps://i.imgur.com/6CzHLhU.jpg

Normally it would freeze the entire PC but this time it only froze the game. This only occurred once, and every other time it freezes my entire laptop and I have to hold down the power button. I had reinstalled and rolled back my drivers normally at this point multiple times and since it didnt seem to be doing much, I used display driver uninstaller in safe mode to remove my nvidia drivers completely. I then did a clean install of 347.88whql and launched up ds2 again. This time I could play for about 45mins in fullscreen before it froze completely again. Issue still persists and I could only play for 50 mins that one time :( Anyone know what the high spikes in bus usage means? Any idea how to fix it?

Sorry I took so long to reply.

I think there is a chance your problem could be drivers. I am having a number of weird problems with Kepler running any drivers newer than 345.20. Freezing is among the odd behavior. You might try going back to that driver and see if the problem goes away. I think that fact that 347.88 improved the situation could be telling. Let us know how 345.20 does.

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Sorry I took so long to reply.

I think there is a chance your problem could be drivers. I am having a number of weird problems with Kepler running any drivers newer than 345.20. Freezing is among the odd behavior. You might try going back to that driver and see if the problem goes away. I think that fact that 347.88 improved the situation could be telling. Let us know how 345.20 does.

That only happened once. It went back to freezing between 10-15 mins afterwards. I went all the way back to 327.02 without any luck. I will try 345.20 anyway and if that doesn't work, I will try reinstalling windows.

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If you have not already done so, try resetting your BIOS to defaults, no CPU tweaks, and see if that helps. If you did any kind of CPU under-volting (if your BIOS even allows that) it can hard lock-ups if the voltage is a bit too low, and so can incorrect memory timings.

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If you have not already done so, try resetting your BIOS to defaults, no CPU tweaks, and see if that helps. If you did any kind of CPU under-volting (if your BIOS even allows that) it can hard lock-ups if the voltage is a bit too low, and so can incorrect memory timings.

Nope, my bios doesn't allow that. Everything is running stock.

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If you have not already done so, try resetting your BIOS to defaults, no CPU tweaks, and see if that helps. If you did any kind of CPU under-volting (if your BIOS even allows that) it can hard lock-ups if the voltage is a bit too low, and so can incorrect memory timings.

Completely reinstalled windows and used 345.20 drivers. Still freezing :(

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Completely reinstalled windows and used 345.20 drivers. Still freezing :(
Hmm... ok... seems like a dead end with hardware failure. Time for a GPU upgrade?
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Hmm... ok... seems like a dead end with hardware failure. Time for a GPU upgrade?

I just want to make sure that it is actually the gpu at fault and not just the psu or the faulty battery affecting it before getting a 970m

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i had simmilar problem on my gt70 with 870m while playing FarCry3. Video was stuttering, freezing etc. At time it was with stock driver which came with my laptop (337.88). Whatever, in my laptop it was all about overheating and cooler not spinning fast enough... which was odd. Anyway i repasted termal compound, reinstalled windows, new drivers came up. And it did right. Actually i have some freezes and TDP related FPS drops but i think changing vBIOS will make it better. i think you should do same - repaste thermal compund (if you didn't do it - in MSI's laptops its overkill!) and try to change vBIOS for some like OC version - you don't have to OC but they are likely to be optimsed for TDP and voltage bottleneck which make card to freeze.

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i had simmilar problem on my gt70 with 870m while playing FarCry3. Video was stuttering, freezing etc. At time it was with stock driver which came with my laptop (337.88). Whatever, in my laptop it was all about overheating and cooler not spinning fast enough... which was odd. Anyway i repasted termal compound, reinstalled windows, new drivers came up. And it did right. Actually i have some freezes and TDP related FPS drops but i think changing vBIOS will make it better. i think you should do same - repaste thermal compund (if you didn't do it - in MSI's laptops its overkill!) and try to change vBIOS for some like OC version - you don't have to OC but they are likely to be optimsed for TDP and voltage bottleneck which make card to freeze.

No overheating issues, temp sensors show temps below 75C and there seems to be no correlation between temps and freezing in my case. I have tried intensive games like gta5 and arkham origins on ultra (also heaven benchmark) as well as very less intensive games like dark souls and counter strike. I have tried running at stock fan speed and with fans turned up to various levels up to max. There seems to be no logical variance in both cases even though both these situations should have much variance in temperature. I have tried drivers all the way from 320.49 all the way to 352, went from SVL7's vbios to stock and back, even tried reinstalling windows and changing the EC firmware. Bah, I am at my wit's end. I would have just bought a new card if it weren't for it working perfectly for varying amounts of time that seem to correspond to nothing. That has me concerned that it is something other than the card at fault here, which would mean that it would be a waste of money to buy a new card.

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Does sound like some driver issues.

I think a good start would be a reformat / or partitioning your drive a bit and reinstall Windows there. If the issue persists, then you've (almost) excluded software issue

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Hmm... ok... seems like a dead end with hardware failure. Time for a GPU upgrade?

Okie, ran 3dmark firestrike on loop for nearly an hour today with no problem which was weird. Started up dead space 3 and it froze before I could even get out of the menu. I decided to check if it was the VRAM causing trouble and I think I found the culprit: https://i.imgur.com/iWsvJl0.png

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Maybe memory overclocks fucked it up? Does this happen when you OC the gpu memory clock?

Well, that depends. The short answer is "no" but needs to be qualified with more detail than a simple no response. How far are you overclocking it? If I try to overclock beyond what my GPUs are capable of handling with stability or try doing too much of an overclock using stock voltage, or not enough added voltage, it will cause lockups and other undesirable behaviors, but otherwise it does not.

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Well, that depends. The short answer is "no" but needs to be qualified with more detail than a simple no response. How far are you overclocking it? If I try to overclock beyond what my GPUs are capable of handling with stability or try doing too much of an overclock using stock voltage, or not enough added voltage, it will cause lockups and other undesirable behaviors, but otherwise it does not.

I was overlocking it. I stopped after the freezing issues started occurring. I used to normally run at +345mhz core at stock voltage (1.037-1.012V) and no memory overclock while gaming. While playing gta 5, which was what I was playing when the freezes started occuring, I also ramped up the memory clock +400mhz in afterburner (+200mhz displayed in gpuz).

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I was overlocking it. I stopped after the freezing issues started occurring. I used to normally run at +345mhz core at stock voltage (1.037-1.012V) and no memory overclock while gaming. While playing gta 5, which was what I was playing when the freezes started occuring, I also ramped up the memory clock +400mhz in afterburner (+200mhz displayed in gpuz).
If the problem goes away with stock clocks, then lower the memory overclock or increase the voltage and it may be fine.
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If the problem goes away with stock clocks, then lower the memory overclock or increase the voltage and it may be fine.

But that's the problem. The problem doesn't go away at all, even on complete stock clocks. Been 2 weeks since I played any game.

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