Tech Inferno Fan Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 US$90 PE4C V2.0 with a 220W Dell AC Adapter has been releasedShipping is US$23, so US$113 total. Can purchase the expresscard or mPCIe version and add the additional mPCIe, expresscard or PCIe adapter+cable for another US$20. A much better package than any previous PE4L/PE4H. Highlights being:- looks like supports x1 or x2 links "Support dual channel signal transfer"- Gen2 compliant- supports user-settable Reset Delay switch via jumpers "Support two sets external pin to setup delay time. Support two delay switch to avoid registration problems when boot."- appears to support CLKRUN delay "Support Suspend Clock"- has ATX plug on board -> does this mean can draw slot power from second rail on multi-rail PSUs?Documentation still sketchy on detail with unresolved links. Looks like may have been a rushed release.Check it out --> PE4C V2.0 (PCIe x16 Adapter) <-- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbadbad Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Just wondering if a 240W Dell adapter would work instead of the shipped 220W. Planning to power a GTX770 without using a bulky ATX PSU (SFX is still bulky).I like the x2 links though. Hoping x2.2 would work on the 2570p, since the WiFi whitelist is buggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_price1 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 US$90 PE4C V2.0 with a 220W Dell AC Adapter has been releasedShipping is US$23, so US$113 total. Can purchase the expresscard or mPCIe version and add the additional mPCIe, expresscard or PCIe adapter+cable for another US$20. A much better package than any previous PE4L/PE4H. Highlights being:- looks like supports x1 or x2 links "Support dual channel signal transfer"- Gen2 compliant- supports user-settable Reset Delay switch via jumpers "Support two sets external pin to setup delay time. Support two delay switch to avoid registration problems when boot."- appears to support CLKRUN delay "Support Suspend Clock"- has ATX plug on board -> does this mean can draw slot power from second rail on multi-rail PSUs?Documentation still sketchy on detail with unresolved links. Looks like may have been a rushed release.Check it out --> PE4C V2.0 (PCIe x16 Adapter) <--That's maybe a stupid question but do you think that the hdmi to express card adapter could be replaced by a thunderbolt dock with hdmi port ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noric Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 What are those pillars, anyway?And I wonder how is it being switched on/off. Let's hope it switches on automatically when plugging the expresscard, like Exp Gdc does.Looks promising, all in all. A bit pricey, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniordiscart Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 That's maybe a stupid question but do you think that the hdmi to express card adapter could be replaced by a thunderbolt dock with hdmi port ?That's very interesting indeed. I'd like to see that as well. HDMI 1.3 seems to have a throughput of 10.3Gb/s (and it goes up from there, 20Gb/s for HDMI 2.0), which is a tad more than the first generation of Thunderbolt. I guess, when somebody should buy the PE4C V2.0, it would be cheap and easy to test out. One thing I'm not sure about is that there is no "Thunderbolt to HDMI" converter, all I can find is "Displayport to HDMI". So the question is also: will Displayport recognize that at the other end of the cable, a PCIe device is running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THELOU101 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 It would be great if they would have added a thunderbolt connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 That's very interesting indeed. I'd like to see that as well. HDMI 1.3 seems to have a throughput of 10.3Gb/s (and it goes up from there, 20Gb/s for HDMI 2.0), which is a tad more than the first generation of Thunderbolt. I guess, when somebody should buy the PE4C V2.0, it would be cheap and easy to test out. One thing I'm not sure about is that there is no "Thunderbolt to HDMI" converter, all I can find is "Displayport to HDMI". So the question is also: will Displayport recognize that at the other end of the cable, a PCIe device is running?This seems very very interesting. Wish something could be done close to this idea in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kytael Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 this seems like a big deal, why isn't there more discussion about this like the EXP GDC? (1 page vs 18?) naively this looks a lot better than the EXP GDC, more stable video card due to posts, included power, and cheaperthe EXP GDC has a nice cover and will let you use your own PSU, but that's about it as far as I can tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakkara Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 How is this cheaper than the EXP GDC? This costs 113 USD vs. EXP GDC which was 89 USD both with PSU and shipping to Finland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noric Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Exp gdc is 99$. I think this pe4c is very interesting. Honestly, I think I'll go for this one, instead of the exp gdc. It seems there have been a few defective units of exp gdc, while bplus's support to the egpu community makes it more reliable (hopefully). Those pillars make pe4c very stable too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcagara08 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 US$90 PE4C V2.0 with a 220W Dell AC Adapter has been releasedShipping is US$23, so US$113 total. Can purchase the expresscard or mPCIe version and add the additional mPCIe, expresscard or PCIe adapter+cable for another US$20. A much better package than any previous PE4L/PE4H. Highlights being:- looks like supports x1 or x2 links "Support dual channel signal transfer"- Gen2 compliant- supports user-settable Reset Delay switch via jumpers "Support two sets external pin to setup delay time. Support two delay switch to avoid registration problems when boot."- appears to support CLKRUN delay "Support Suspend Clock"- has ATX plug on board -> does this mean can draw slot power from second rail on multi-rail PSUs?Documentation still sketchy on detail with unresolved links. Looks like may have been a rushed release.Check it out --> PE4C V2.0 (PCIe x16 Adapter) <--Hey mate, I sent an e-mail to the sales team asking them about the availability of this product PE4C PM100C V2.0 and I did not get a respond yet, hopefully by tommorow on a Monday.Is it really out of stock or pulled out of sale? I read you made a post somewhere that they are having an upcoming revision release, can you comment on this?and the supplied AC adapter is only 180 watts not 220W or 240W? I would like to use at least an R9 280X or the least 270X without using a separate PSU.Otherwise, I will just build myself a SFF gaming PC (silverstonetek ML07 or raven RVZ01+600W SFF PSU+R9 290X+AMD APU) if these things will be further delayed.I finally understood the whole picture of this amazing adventure you started and even signed on that petition for Intel to let ASUS sell XG 2 station to consumers.Can't wait to get my hands on the necessary hardware and that setup 1.30 software of yours, my $25 bucks is ready though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Inferno Fan Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 Hey mate, I sent an e-mail to the sales team asking them about the availability of this product PE4C PM100C V2.0 and I did not get a respond yet, hopefully by tommorow on a Monday.Is it really out of stock or pulled out of sale? I read you made a post somewhere that they are having an upcoming revision release, can you comment on this?and the supplied AC adapter is only 180 watts not 220W or 240W? I would like to use at least an R9 280X or the least 270X without using a separate PSU.Otherwise, I will just build myself a SFF gaming PC (silverstonetek ML07 or raven RVZ01+600W SFF PSU+R9 290X+AMD APU) if these things will be further delayed.I finally understood the whole picture of this amazing adventure you started and even signed on that petition for Intel to let ASUS sell XG 2 station to consumers.Can't wait to get my hands on the necessary hardware and that setup 1.30 software of yours, my $25 bucks is ready though.Yes, PE4C 2.0 was pulled from sale. Was told there was a bug in the hardware design that triggered it. A new PE4C V2.1 will be released fixing those problems. I do not have a firm date when that will be. If you need something sooner rather than later then consider a EXP GDC V6. http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/6643-exp-gdc-v6-discussion.html#post88642 . Just note the warnings about quality of the product. AFAIK both the PE4C V2.x and EXP GDC V6 have a Dell DA-2 220W AC adapter option. That's good enough for a GTX680 or R9 270X. R9 280X requires 250W. A NVidia card is recommended for it's superiour performance over an AMD equivalent where the candidate system has an active Intel HD iGPU and a x1 1.0 or x1 2.0 PCIe link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcagara08 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yes, PE4C 2.0 was pulled from sale. Was told there was a bug in the hardware design that triggered ait. A new PE4C V2.1 will be released fixing those problems. I do not have a firm date when that will be. If you need something sooner rather than later then consider a EXP GDC V6. http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/6643-exp-gdc-v6-discussion.html#post88642 . Just note the warnings about quality of the product. AFAIK both the PE4C V2.x and EXP GDC V6 have a Dell DA-2 220W AC adapter option. That's good enough for a GTX680 or R9 270X. R9 280X requires 250W. A NVidia card is recommended for it's superiour performance over an AMD equivalent where the candidate system has an active Intel HD iGPU and a x1 1.0 or x1 2.0 PCIe link.Hey thanks Tech Inferno Fan! I will probably wait for the PE4C V2.1, they responded (bplus tech sales) and told me they are planning to release on Q4 2014, so I guess we can still give suggestions for redesigns for the upcoming version to bring improvements and more feasibility too cause they are listening to us! I will probably start to build a small form factor PC as of this moment then. I hope us all to have more options in the future especially that thunderbolt 2 platform being held back by intel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightySnake Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Hey thanks Tech Inferno Fan! I will probably wait for the PE4C V2.1, they responded (bplus tech sales) and told me they are planning to release on Q4 2014, so I guess we can still give suggestions for redesigns for the upcoming version to bring improvements and more feasibility too cause they are listening to us! I will probably start to build a small form factor PC as of this moment then. I hope us all to have more options in the future especially that thunderbolt 2 platform being held back by intel..What kind of bug there is? Just to know.Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Inferno Fan Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 What kind of bug there is? Just to know.Thank youThere was an undisclosed hw functionality bug which caysed BPlus to pull the PE4C V2.0 off the market. Now that it's on sale again we can assume it's been corrected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightySnake Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 There was an undisclosed hw functionality bug which caysed BPlus to pull the PE4C V2.0 off the market. Now that it's on sale again we can assume it's been corrected.Hope that the seller have a new one (i've buy it from an American ebay seller, i live in italy)Thank you nando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davide445 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 There was an undisclosed hw functionality bug which caysed BPlus to pull the PE4C V2.0 off the market. Now that it's on sale again we can assume it's been corrected.Just to let you know I received this answer from BP support about this bug I was asking for:PE4C v2.0 is bug free,And PE4c V2.1 has more function added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcagara08 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Just to let you know I received this answer from BP support about this bug I was asking for:PE4C v2.0 is bug free,And PE4c V2.1 has more function added.Well this is good news to all eGPU enthusiasts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noric Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 One feature request to BPlus, if possible: please make the new 2.1 release turn on/off based on expresscard power (= laptop is on/off). In short, like Exp Gdc does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambda Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 They could make USB 3.0 port and not just USB 2.0. Somehow USB 3.0 is only available on PE3A which is for ExpressCard only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Inferno Fan Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 They could make USB 3.0 port and not just USB 2.0. Somehow USB 3.0 is only available on PE3A which is for ExpressCard only.The USB port on any of the BPlus or EXP GDC products are just re-routes of the expresscard slot USB pins. The USB spec, 2.0 or 3.0, will be whatever the manufacturer has wired to your expresscard slot.The way to add definitive USB 3.0 support would be off the PCIe bus itself. That would mean sharing the EC/mPCIe PCIe bus requiring a PCIe bridge chip + USB 3.0 chip. Bridged PCIe products are not cheap. Consider the difference in price between the Sonnet single-slot versus 3-slot (bridged) Thunderbolt II enclosures:http://forum.techinferno.com/enclosures-adapters/7633-us%24314-sonnet-echo-express-sel-16gbps-tb2.html$500 Sonnet Echo Express SE-II as shown in http://forum.techinferno.com/implementation-guides/6879-%5Bguide%5D-2013-15-macbook-pro-iris-gtx760%4016gbps-tb2-sonnet-ee-se-ii-win-8-1-a.html#post94263 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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