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21 minutes ago, D2ultima said:

Try using throttlestop alone to fiddle and setting current limit to 256A (I've seen some notebooks have 255A as highest; this may work too). Your CPU is throttling pretty hard though... it says 4GHz but that score should be closer to 3.4

 

i'm using XTU but can switch to TS if needed thanks.

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7 hours ago, Legion said:

 

i'm using XTU but can switch to TS if needed thanks.

I think the current systems need a very drawn-out process to switch from XTU. Clevo's fault.

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Well mighty Papusan great score.

 

I personally need something light also for work. I humbly will not compete with you because i'm Wingling not Phoenix! However i think i can get 4ghz/4.1 on CPU + 2000 or maybe 2100 mhz on GPU (will need Prema overclocking lord magics here though)

 

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Does anyone seen good guide how to use TS because at first glance it is much more complicated than XTU.

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23 hours ago, Legion said:

Well mighty Papusan great score.

 

I personally need something light also for work. I humbly will not compete with you because i'm Wingling not Phoenix! However i think i can get 4ghz/4.1 on CPU + 2000 or maybe 2100 mhz on GPU (will need Prema overclocking lord magics here though)

 

PS

Does anyone seen good guide how to use TS because at first glance it is much more complicated than XTU.

 

Look into bro @Mr. FoxYoutube videos for TS https://www.youtube.com/user/MrFoxRox2 Or take a walk into http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/

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Though my pair of 970Ms is still doing fine in FHD or QHD gaming, but some of the games that I like do not support SLI, such as Gears of War 4, Horizon 3, Quantum Break, etc. This annoyed me sometimes, and happened that I had a chance to be in China for 2 weeks. So well, just did some treasure hunt, and found a MSI 1070 in good price.

 

Here begins with some benchmarks:

Immediately unlocked the card to 200W TDP, core +215 MHz, mem +655 MHz:

 

Fire Strike, over 21K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11324399

Fire Strike Extreme, over 10K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11324446

Time Spy: 6.8K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1009997

3DMark 11 Extreme, over 9K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11882793

 

Behind the scene:

IMG_20170103_121119727-1.jpg

 

Programmed the vBIOS chip to 200W TDP using the SP16-B programmer, the chipset model is MXIC 25U8033E:

IMG_20170102_092737950-1.jpg

 

Modded the 980DT heat sink for standard card, required patiently sawing a corner and sanding work. Added 7 heat pipes for extra cooling:

IMG_20170104_094448896-1.jpg

 

Re-modded the CPU heat sink for better looking (got some phobia of small dense heat sinks), added 7 heat pipes also:

IMG_20170104_094555203-1.jpg

 

Loading temperature of 200W TDP in Furmark with 1280x720 (4xMSAA) after one hour:

Personally I think setting of 720p + 4xMSAA can very well represent general gaming load, 0xMSAA or 2xMSAA consumes too much heat and non realistic, not recommended.

furkmark_1070-2.jpg

 

Cost (got everything from taobao.com):

new MSI 1070: $660;

new 980DT heat sink: $65;

Heat pipe: $2 ~ 3 each depends on length;

SP16-B programmer: $70;

Also got a new B173ZAN01.0 for only $65 (including added $5 for picking a perfect screen); 40 pins EDP cable $35.

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So Prema finally got my 980(m?) to clock memory properly, or at least close enough to contend with cards made 980 by birth.

 

1526/7600 3dm11 22339 GPU score with 1.2V VID core.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11904402

 

It may take a bit, but I think I can get the core much higher and threaten 1600.

 

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On 06/01/2017 at 4:53 PM, coolane said:

Though my pair of 970Ms is still doing fine in FHD or QHD gaming, but some of the games that I like do not support SLI, such as Gears of War 4, Horizon 3, Quantum Break, etc. This annoyed me sometimes, and happened that I had a chance to be in China for 2 weeks. So well, just did some treasure hunt, and found a MSI 1070 in good price.

 

Here begins with some benchmarks:

Immediately unlocked the card to 200W TDP, core +215 MHz, mem +655 MHz:

 

Fire Strike, over 21K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11324399

Fire Strike Extreme, over 10K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11324446

Time Spy: 6.8K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1009997

3DMark 11 Extreme, over 9K GPU score: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11882793

 

Behind the scene:

IMG_20170103_121119727-1.jpg

 

Programmed the vBIOS chip to 200W TDP using the SP16-B programmer, the chipset model is MXIC 25U8033E:

IMG_20170102_092737950-1.jpg

 

Modded the 980DT heat sink for standard card, required patiently sawing a corner and sanding work. Added 7 heat pipes for extra cooling:

IMG_20170104_094448896-1.jpg

 

Re-modded the CPU heat sink for better looking (got some phobia of small dense heat sinks), added 7 heat pipes also:

IMG_20170104_094555203-1.jpg

 

Loading temperature of 200W TDP in Furmark with 1280x720 (4xMSAA) after one hour:

Personally I think setting of 720p + 4xMSAA can very well represent general gaming load, 0xMSAA or 2xMSAA consumes too much heat and non realistic, not recommended.

furkmark_1070-2.jpg

 

Cost (got everything from taobao.com):

new MSI 1070: $660;

new 980DT heat sink: $65;

Heat pipe: $2 ~ 3 each depends on length;

SP16-B programmer: $70;

Also got a new B173ZAN01.0 for only $65 (including added $5 for picking a perfect screen); 40 pins EDP cable $35.

 

i'm curious as to how you pulled this off since i have a 1070 as well. even knowing just how to mod the 980DT heatsink is a start :D

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i only managed a measly 15315 with a +120 overclock on the core on the 1070 notebook.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11273854

 

not a cool as @coolane's score but still respectable i think.

 

EDIT: is it possible to dump the vbios and flash it to another 1070?? oh coolane you have me all worked up!

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i'm curious as to how you pulled this off since i have a 1070 as well. even knowing just how to mod the 980DT heatsink is a start :D

 

16 hours ago, thegh0sts said:

i only managed a measly 15315 with a +120 overclock on the core on the 1070 notebook.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11273854

 

not a cool as @coolane's score but still respectable i think.

 

EDIT: is it possible to dump the vbios and flash it to another 1070?? oh coolane you have me all worked up!

 

About modding the 980DT heat sink, please take a look of the picture below (corner was cut out already). You can compare with yours and see the changes.

If you align the MSI 1070 with the 980DT heat sink, you will find those power phases popping the copper panel and preventing the GPU core from making good contact with the heat sink. Especially the individual one in the corner. I used a hacksaw to cut out the corner, and used the 400 sandpaper to deep-sand the places that I circled, following with refined sanding using 800-grit paper and 2000 grit for polishing. This required a lot of works, I would say adding extra (maybe 3) heat pipes on top of the 980M heat sink would be much easier if you don't want the trouble. 

 

20161223_155408.jpg

 

About the vbios of the 1070, I will recommend to wait for what @prema might come up later or a modded nvflash. Because at this moment, as I know, any modification of the pascal vbios cannot bypass the nvflash and requires a programmer to program it. This involves extra spending in a programmer and higher risk of bricking a card easily. 

I can't provide the vbios because it's not my property. I found it in a chinese forum; if you search "vBIOS硬刷 Pascal GTX1060/70/80" in google, maybe you will find the original thread.

The below post by Dreamonic is a reference of editing the pascal vbios using hex-editor, I tried to mod it by myself and resulted in black screen on boot, not sure what is the cause.

http://www.techinferno.com/haven/threads/94/

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On 16/01/2017 at 1:52 PM, coolane said:

 

 

About modding the 980DT heat sink, please take a look of the picture below (corner was cut out already). You can compare with yours and see the changes.

If you align the MSI 1070 with the 980DT heat sink, you will find those power phases popping the copper panel and preventing the GPU core from making good contact with the heat sink. Especially the individual one in the corner. I used a hacksaw to cut out the corner, and used the 400 sandpaper to deep-sand the places that I circled, following with refined sanding using 800-grit paper and 2000 grit for polishing. This required a lot of works, I would say adding extra (maybe 3) heat pipes on top of the 980M heat sink would be much easier if you don't want the trouble. 

 

20161223_155408.jpg

 

About the vbios of the 1070, I will recommend to wait for what @prema might come up later or a modded nvflash. Because at this moment, as I know, any modification of the pascal vbios cannot bypass the nvflash and requires a programmer to program it. This involves extra spending in a programmer and higher risk of bricking a card easily. 

I can't provide the vbios because it's not my property. I found it in a chinese forum; if you search "vBIOS硬刷 Pascal GTX1060/70/80" in google, maybe you will find the original thread.

The below post by Dreamonic is a reference of editing the pascal vbios using hex-editor, I tried to mod it by myself and resulted in black screen on boot, not sure what is the cause.

http://www.techinferno.com/haven/threads/94/

 

Thanks for you insight! i'll do some investigation when i can.

 

1. did you cut and sand with a dremel or something?

2. what do you mean by "sand this deeply inward? possible to get better pics of that section?

3. How do you apply the smaller heatsink fins?

 

i can see the difference between your heatsink and my unmodded one and I am wondering that this might help with temps even at stock TDP.

 

i also noticed that the area in red touches the heatsink...not sure of that's ok.

 

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15 hours ago, thegh0sts said:

 

Thanks for you insight! i'll do some investigation when i can.

 

1. did you cut and sand with a dremel or something?

2. what do you mean by "sand this deeply inward? possible to get better pics of that section?

3. How do you apply the smaller heatsink fins?

 

i can see the difference between your heatsink and my unmodded one and I am wondering that this might help with temps even at stock TDP.

 

i also noticed that the area in red touches the heatsink...not sure of that's ok.

 

 

 

1. I just used a simple hacksaw to manually cut it and 3M sand papers to sand it; the saw looks like this one: 

https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-STHT20139L-Rubber-Grip-Hacksaw/dp/B00B5A0T5K/ref=sr_1_2?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1484799254&sr=1-2&keywords=hacksaw

2. Hopefully the below picture can give you a better insight. If you put the 1070 together with the 980DT heat sink, you will see a better picture of where to cut out or sand out. Because your goal is to have the core contact the heat sink evenly with 4 screw holes aligned.

980DTmod.jpg

3. Just 3M double sides thermal tape, it came with the small heat fins I got from amazon. If you don't plan to resell your card, you can use some thermal adhesive.

4. It's okay to have the red-circled components to touch the heat sink, I applied some thermal paste there to dissipate the heat.

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1. I just used a simple hacksaw to manually cut it and 3M sand papers to sand it; the saw looks like this one: 

https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-STHT20139L-Rubber-Grip-Hacksaw/dp/B00B5A0T5K/ref=sr_1_2?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1484799254&sr=1-2&keywords=hacksaw

2. Hopefully the below picture can give you a better insight. If you put the 1070 together with the 980DT heat sink, you will see a better picture of where to cut out or sand out. Because your goal is to have the core contact the heat sink evenly with 4 screw holes aligned.

980DTmod.jpg

3. Just 3M double sides thermal tape, it came with the small heat fins I got from amazon. If you don't plan to resell your card, you can use some thermal adhesive.

4. It's okay to have the red-circled components to touch the heat sink, I applied some thermal paste there to dissipate the heat.



Thanks@coolane this info is brilliant. I'll give this a try.

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@coolane one last question, the mini heatsinks, what size are they? most of the chips / mosfets look like they're at least 1cm x 1cm (i checked my 980DT as a reference) - is that correct? i don't want to get bigger heatsinks and cut them down as that might screw with the sink's ability to transfer the heat away.

 

EDIT: I found some heatsinks that look similar on moddiy.com so i bought a few and some transfer tape. all i need to get now is dremel to "trim" the heatsink and the sand paper then i shall be set to go with this mod. i've started my commitment to this LOL

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On 1/20/2017 at 6:21 AM, thegh0sts said:

@coolane one last question, the mini heatsinks, what size are they? most of the chips / mosfets look like they're at least 1cm x 1cm (i checked my 980DT as a reference) - is that correct? i don't want to get bigger heatsinks and cut them down as that might screw with the sink's ability to transfer the heat away.

 

EDIT: I found some heatsinks that look similar on moddiy.com so i bought a few and some transfer tape. all i need to get now is dremel to "trim" the heatsink and the sand paper then i shall be set to go with this mod. i've started my commitment to this LOL

This is the package I got from amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Mudder-Aluminum-Heatsink-Cooling-Raspberry/dp/B01GE7Q060/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1485027248&sr=8-23&keywords=heatsink

They were designed for Rasberry Pi. I used the smaller one from the package, the size was showed as 8.8mm x 8.8mm x 5mm.

Please PM me if you have further question. I feel like this is a wrong thread to talk about modding in details.

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7 hours ago, coolane said:

This is the package I got from amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Mudder-Aluminum-Heatsink-Cooling-Raspberry/dp/B01GE7Q060/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1485027248&sr=8-23&keywords=heatsink

They were designed for Rasberry Pi. I used the smaller one from the package, the size was showed as 8.8mm x 8.8mm x 5mm.

Please PM me if you have further question. I feel like this is a wrong thread to talk about modding in details.

 

sure, i've made a thread for future reference and further discussion :D

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Uau I see mxm is not dead at all. Any chance in the future a p170em may get an 1060/1070 upgrade bios? Would it even be compatible?

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On 17.02.2017 at 4:02 PM, j3tstream said:

Uau I see mxm is not dead at all. Any chance in the future a p170em may get an 1060/1070 upgrade bios? Would it even be compatible?

 Prema already have tested 1060 in P150XX once so there might be a chance...

 

My new score after heatsink swap and TS usage. Temps are much better but stock BIOS/firmare is still problematic (current and power limits + my corsair 3000 mhz don't want to work properly).

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18307949

 

 

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Hello everyone!

I have a problem with my GPU.

When it's overclocked:

Core: +332MHz

Memory: +350MHz

Voltage: 1,5V

It crashes often during gaming, especially when I ran 3dmark firestrike.

GPU-Z shows under PerfCap reasons: Idle.

What causes this issue?

Is my power adapter not strong enough? I have a 180W PSU.

 

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