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OK, I fixed my 2005 Clevo M570U with Quadro FX 2500M. For some odd reason 3DMark doesn't even know the GPU,

but even stranger is that NVIDIA themselves do NOT list it anywhere in their drop-down driver menu for Legacy cards either...

 

Anyway that should't stop us from setting new records:

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/3199135_

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/17883499

 

 

 

 

 

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It has single handedly not only beaten every Quadro FX Series (in their list) with the same T7600 CPU :

 

http://goo.gl/VxpMZH

 

It has also beaten every single Go 7900GTX (its GeForce equivalent) including SLI results, with a single strike:

 

http://goo.gl/WQEEaK

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Sorry, what score was from 2009?

The GPU is from 2005 and the driver is 2009 (it's the last one from Windows update to nativity support the GPU).

NVIDIA doesn't even have the GPU in its own Legacy driver list, they jump from from FX1xxM straight to FX3xxM.

 

700Mhz is a 40% OC on core with default 1.24v voltage. Stock clock is 500Mhz and the Clevo model voltage regulator is only 2 steps, so no over volt possible via vBIOS alone like on the Dell GO 79x0GTX which allow for 1.32v.

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@Prema The M570U is from before Clevo picked up MXM right? So that's the fastest card you can drop in?

 

Overclocking the CPU is huge for 3dm06. Time to look up that PLL on the motherboard.

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@johnksss oh didn't see that...from 3600 to 6k is indeed a good improvement. :) 

 

 

@Khenglish

 

Right, the GPU uses two funky ports to plug into the board. The best card they sold for this type was the GO 7950GTX, which essentially is an OCed & overvolted version of the same Go 9700GTX/ FX2500M.

 

FX 2500M/GO 7900 GTX:  500Mhz core / 600Mhz vRAM (1.24v)

GO 7950 GTX:                    575Mhz core / 700 vRAM (1.32v)

 

Let me turn the Quadro into a 7900 GTX, install a Geforce instead Quadro driver and redo the bench...

 

EDIT: These cards don't take vBIOS ID changes lightly...had to re-program the chip...the solder back then took a lot more heat than today's. :P

           

Guess I should have gone the good old software route in the first place. Anyway, now it has some Phobya pads and ICD, so it wasn't all for nothing. :) 


 

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3 hours ago, Prema said:

OK, here we go!

3DMark finally recognizes it properly it as GO 7900 GTX: 

 

 

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http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/17883774

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/3199811_prema_3dmark06_geforce_7900_gtx_go_6099_marks

 

Come on Prema, if you're using oldschool hardware you need to do the oldschool mods. 667 to 800 fsb mod on that pll for 2.8ghz is easy stuff. Then you do the socket vid mods to make it stable.

 

If you link me the PLL datasheet I'll tell you what to solder. Usually just 1 dab between 2 pins is needed.

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11 hours ago, Khenglish said:

 

Come on Prema, if you're using oldschool hardware you need to do the oldschool mods. 667 to 800 fsb mod on that pll for 2.8ghz is easy stuff. Then you do the socket vid mods to make it stable.

 

If you link me the PLL datasheet I'll tell you what to solder. Usually just 1 dab between 2 pins is needed.

 

The stock FSB is 166Mhz (667)...was able to bump it to 186Mhz (745) but RAM or some PCI component is crashing the system beyond that even with CPU at 6x)...

Can´t even validate @stock clocks because latest CPU-Z has a problem with this system and is hanging up when I only try to use that function, so here you go:

 

 

 

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Will raise the RAM Timings to see if it helps...

 

EDIT: This system or RAM can't recognize/boot with CL 5 (current Timings are 4-4-4), so I tried flashing a 4-5-5 SPD and got the FSB up a bit:

 

 

 

 

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Still very unstable and without a way to raise the RAM Timings further I guess that's it for now...

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4 hours ago, Prema said:

 

The stock FSB is 166Mhz (667)...was able to bump it to 186Mhz (745) but RAM or some PCI component is crashing the system beyond that even with CPU at 6x)...

Can´t even validate @stock clocks because latest CPU-Z has a problem with this system and is hanging up when I only try to use that function, so here you go:

 

 

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Will raise the RAM Timings to see if it helps...

 

Modding the pll will change the fsb strap so you'll still have stock sata, pci, and pci-e. I've found pci-e to crap out between 10 and 20% overclock on most systems, so if you're getting a hard instant screen freeze, that's likely your problem. Pci instability can cause that as well. Memory is usually a bsod if unstable.

 

I looked up your pll for you. Remove resistor R70 from the motherboard and solder pins 60 and 61 together on the pll. Your pll is ICS9LPR310BGLF. This has a 100% chance to work as long as the cpu has enough volts for 2.8ghz or you drop the multiplier, and the memory timings are loose enough for 800mhz.

 

I've done this mod to 2 laptops. Fun mod.

 

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@Prema Hmm. weird CAS5 is no go. Most DDR2 is CAS5. It'd be a shame to set it to 533mhz and lose synchronization with fsb clock. That will hurt latencies a lot.

 

Maybe 1 stick is better than the other? You don't need dual channel with the RAM clock matching the FSB clock so you could pull one. That likely only leaves you with 2GB of memory though.

 

We could always overvolt the memory.

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@Prema A memory overvolt is actually really easy on that laptop. Its easy to do with a pencil mod. The memory VRM is NCP5214. Find this chip, then find PR100 on the mobo near it. This resistor is 3.3k by default.

 

Vram = .8V * (4.3k + PR100) / PR100.

 

Default voltage is actually 1.84V, not 1.8V like it should be. Since you can get 186 MHz at 4-4-4, 1.95V to 2.0V should get us 200 MHz base FSB for 800 MHz RAM stable.

 

This corresponds to pencilling PR100 down to 2.867k Ohms for 2.0V, or 2.99k Ohms for 1.95V.

 

 

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The crashes are blue screens...it looks very much like a RAM issue as it also improved a lot when going from 4-4-4 to 4-5-5...will overvolt it if I can reach the resistor...

The problem is that I can no longer take the shell apart as the body is disintegrating and already held together by some strong two component stuff. :D

Will have to see which parts I can still reach... 

 

Anyway, here with the CPU@2660Mhz [FSB bumped to 190Mhz (760Mhz)]:

 

 

 

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OK, finally got 5-6-6 RAM Timings to boot and as such raise the FSB to 777Mhz:

 

 

 

FX 2500M: http://hwbot.org/submission/3201368_

 

7900GTX GO: http://hwbot.org/submission/3201372_

 

 

 

That's about as far as 'Soft-Mods' are taking us with this unit, will check out the board next...

 

EDIT: Just for the completion also benched the same settings as 7950GTX GO:

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/17884305

 

Very consistent benching results across drivers and runs with these cards. Scaling is also to the point unlike today's 'Throttle Stories'...

 

(The first 7 results on 3DMark are actually SLI runs that for some reason show as single GPU).

So second to a guy with CPU@3160Mhz (450Mhz+) who got a nice 6557 score. :) 

 

 

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