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On 1/2/2016 at 4:11 PM, Prema said:

No the power issues are due to BIOS total power draw throttle code...also careful with randomly swapping modules without fixing dependencies and also porting board specific code.

Boards are different (voltages, layout etc) and what may work for some time may damage the board in the long run...

Hi, prema I have been finding it difficult to get to you but finally I have. I needed your help please  i have a clevoP157SM-A Intel® Core™ i7-4710MQ Processor (2.5GHz), 6MB L3 Cache and ® GeForce™ GTX 970M GPU with 6GB GDDR5 VRAM and will like to safely overclock it, at least I do the minor clocking but want to push the card higher. Can you please give me specific mods files and directions i need to safely overclock it. Have much respect for you, thanks.

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Guys I have small question about RAM.

Tomorrow I will have second Clevo - this time P150EM barebone. I bought it because I still have old i7 3630qm, 7970m and msata 128GB SSD somewhere in the closet.

Only thing I need is RAM. I think about 2x8 or 4x8 HyperX Impact 1600MHz CL9-9-9 1,35-1,5V. Only problem is - will they work ?

Now in my P170EM I have Kingston 4x8GB 1600MHz CL11 1,5V.

Price is very similar but CL9 sounds much better.

Someone have HyperX Impact 1600 in 150/170/370EM ?

 

PS Prema - when we will see v3 bios for 150-170EM ?

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@Prema what is the average ASIC % that your BGA 980M mod's stock voltage is based off of?

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@Prema Thank you for the V2 980m update. I purchased a 980m upgrade kit from Eurocom for my p170em late last year. I reached out to them to get the latest vbios since none of the newer 360.xx drivers would install. I've had nothing but negative experiences with Eurocom and of course they didn't respond to my email and never called me back. So I said f-it, paid for tech inferno subscription and downloaded your V2 vbios and all is well now! One question, how can I utilize the new power meter feature?

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1 hour ago, hexum23 said:

@Prema Thank you for the V2 980m update. I purchased a 980m upgrade kit from Eurocom for my p170em late last year. I reached out to them to get the latest vbios since none of the newer 360.xx drivers would install. I've had nothing but negative experiences with Eurocom and of course they didn't respond to my email and never called me back. So I said f-it, paid for tech inferno subscription and downloaded your V2 vbios and all is well now! One question, how can I utilize the new power meter feature?

It just shows how many watt your graphic use. For example 100%TDP = 330W then 40%TDP = 132w

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On old 359.06 with prema vbios mod v1 I got around 13k in 3dmark 11. On new 361.75 with prema vbios mod v2 I got only 11600 points in 3dmark 11 . New drivers sucks ?

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On 2/1/2016 at 5:20 AM, maskofwraith said:

HI How can i force enable nvidia gpu?  thanks

just go to device manger and look for display driver then right click that's your answer.

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On 2/4/2016 at 7:27 PM, majster msi said:

On old 359.06 with prema vbios mod v1 I got around 13k in 3dmark 11. On new 361.75 with prema vbios mod v2 I got only 11600 points in 3dmark 11 . New drivers sucks ?

Can confirm, my old NV inspector settings crash my system and scores are much worse somehow now. Using both bios and vbios V2 from Prema.
On the other note, ive used to get some random freezes but not anymore, this only happened on long gaming sessions.

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On 2/3/2016 at 0:44 PM, Sonrexx said:

Hi, prema I have been finding it difficult to get to you but finally I have. I needed your help please  i have a clevoP157SM-A Intel® Core™ i7-4710MQ Processor (2.5GHz), 6MB L3 Cache and ® GeForce™ GTX 970M GPU with 6GB GDDR5 VRAM and will like to safely overclock it, at least I do the minor clocking but want to push the card higher. Can you please give me specific mods files and directions i need to safely overclock it. Have much respect for you, thanks.

 

1. Depends on the system. (Many Clevo systems have reduced/throttled CPU performance with stock BIOS). 

2. Use the correct Mod for your system and follow the included "readme" file instructins.

3. Also depends on the system. If it is an MXM GPU then yes.

4. vBIOS only controls the GPU. BIOS the CPU, RAM and everything else

5. Sure, they have a lot of unused potential. Even your stock results will be higher without OC as it won't unnecessarily throttle.

 

Use NVIDA Inspector for GPU OC. Just leave the voltage @ stock and push the core like 100-200Mhz and see how far it's stable.

Add voltage as required. vRAM can maybe do some 300Mhz.

 

 

ENJOY! :)

 

On 2/3/2016 at 0:35 AM, kamyk155 said:

Guys I have small question about RAM.

Tomorrow I will have second Clevo - this time P150EM barebone. I bought it because I still have old i7 3630qm, 7970m and msata 128GB SSD somewhere in the closet.

Only thing I need is RAM. I think about 2x8 or 4x8 HyperX Impact 1600MHz CL9-9-9 1,35-1,5V. Only problem is - will they work ?

Now in my P170EM I have Kingston 4x8GB 1600MHz CL11 1,5V.

Price is very similar but CL9 sounds much better.

Someone have HyperX Impact 1600 in 150/170/370EM ?

 

PS Prema - when we will see v3 bios for 150-170EM ?

 

Any HyperX with 1.5v work just fine on that system...

 

As for a public releases:

 

- non-throttle vBIOS for older Alienware

- GTX9 for HM

- GTX7/8 for EM

 

...could have made all that happen a long time ago if shops would stop using my mods without permission to sell more cards to people.

 

All I get are mails from very well known shops, who rip people off by selling them knowingly non-working stuff on daily basis:

 

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Prema:

It won't work right without my mod, they are just cheating customer like ...others...

3DMark11 P10000 (for GTX980M) means it is not working...that's like GTX880M.

That's 25% under-performing...

Working means P12500-17000...

 

Unnamed shop:

But working. For many customers is enough...

 

On 2/3/2016 at 3:58 AM, octiceps said:

@Prema what is the average ASIC % that your BGA 980M mod's stock voltage is based off of?

 

70%

 

On 2/4/2016 at 8:38 AM, hexum23 said:

@Prema Thank you for the V2 980m update. I purchased a 980m upgrade kit from Eurocom for my p170em late last year. I reached out to them to get the latest vbios since none of the newer 360.xx drivers would install. I've had nothing but negative experiences with Eurocom and of course they didn't respond to my email and never called me back. So I said f-it, paid for tech inferno subscription and downloaded your V2 vbios and all is well now! One question, how can I utilize the new power meter feature?

 

I made them custom v2 Mods a while ago...

You can use HWINFO64 or GPU-Z to get power-percentage readings.

 

On 2/4/2016 at 9:54 AM, UnicorN said:

It just shows how many watt your graphic use. For example 100%TDP = 330W then 40%TDP = 132w

 

It has nothing to do with actual watts...for that you need to use an in-line power meter.

It's really only useful in order to compare different OCs/OVs to each other.

 

On 2/4/2016 at 10:57 PM, majster msi said:

On old 359.06 with prema vbios mod v1 I got around 13k in 3dmark 11. On new 361.75 with prema vbios mod v2 I got only 11600 points in 3dmark 11 . New drivers sucks ?

 

See answer below! ;)

 

7 hours ago, JDF said:

Can confirm, my old NV inspector settings crash my system and scores are much worse somehow now. Using both bios and vbios V2 from Prema.
On the other note, ive used to get some random freezes but not anymore, this only happened on long gaming sessions.

 

Told you guys before that the 361 driver suck: 

 

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One thing is for sure 361.75 driver is a horrible performer and very unstable OCer also with working vBIOS ...even compared to the two previous 361 driver...

 

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7 hours ago, Prema said:

 

1. Depends on the system. (Many Clevo systems have reduced/throttled CPU performance with stock BIOS). 

2. Use the correct Mod for your system and follow the included "readme" file instructins.

3. Also depends on the system. If it is an MXM GPU then yes.

4. vBIOS only controls the GPU. BIOS the CPU, RAM and everything else

5. Sure, they have a lot of unused potential. Even your stock results will be higher without OC as it won't unnecessarily throttle.

 

Use NVIDA Inspector for GPU OC. Just leave the voltage @ stock and push the core like 100-200Mhz and see how far it's stable.

Add voltage as required. vRAM can maybe do some 300Mhz.

 

 

ENJOY! :)

 

If I set my 980m-g to +300 VRAM when I playing GTA5, if when 100% get a pure color screen with game audio keep going at specific place, everytime! When I lower the vram it's better. do you know what cause this? voltage not enough?

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24 minutes ago, UnicorN said:

If I set my 980m-g to +300 VRAM when I playing GTA5, if when 100% get a pure color screen with game audio keep going at specific place, everytime! When I lower the vram it's better. do you know what cause this? voltage not enough?

 

 

We can't change the vRAM voltage via vBIOS. You have breached your VRAMs limit. Try 250Mhz and see if that's gaming stable.

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21 hours ago, Prema said:

 

 

We can't change the vRAM voltage via vBIOS. You have breached your VRAMs limit. Try 250Mhz and see if that's gaming stable.

I changed it to +200 it won't happen in that "100% happening" place but it will happens somewhere else randomly. So this is due to VRAM 2 high for sure?

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2 hours ago, UnicorN said:

I changed it to +200 it won't happen in that "100% happening" place but it will happens somewhere else randomly. So this is due to VRAM 2 high for sure?

 

If you only OCed the VRam (as you mention nothing about core), then what else would it be except a driver issue? :)

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2 hours ago, Prema said:

 

If you only OCed the VRam (as you mention nothing about core), then what else would it be except a driver issue? :)

I keep the core at +130, I think it is working fine because I didn't change it. Thank you for answer

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Every driver clocks different, what is stable on one version may not be the case on another. You will probably have to reduce the core OC or raise the voltage.

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Hello. Do I understand correctly that in the Bios 2 now when heated to 92 degrees Celsius laptop will shut down to protect it from overheating? And you are specially made so that it was impossible to zalest in your BIOS through MaxwellBiosTweaker? You did not change the rotation of the coolers, and it seems to me that they are now less torque under load. BF4 in my P170EM, 980m heated up to 89 degrees, though there is a new thermal grease and recently cleaned the cooling system. I was a little worried at Stora BIOS I did not pay attention to it, but I think the temperature was lower.

Today I decided to rummage in your Bios and here that noticed. Now video not as earlier I had a card on old Bios, constantly fans slowly turned and temperature kept at the level of 38-42 degrees in idle time. Now video the card being in idle time has temperature of 40 degrees fans completely are switched-off (or very slowly turn) when temperature reaches 49 degrees fans turn on (or start turning slightly more) and temperature falls to 40 degrees and they are again disconnected and is so constant. Apparently you Prema somehow changed turns of video of the card in Bios, but something it not really it to be pleasant to me as generally temperature in games in my opinion increased if I for example include complete revolutions in BF 4 playing on an ultra that temperature doesn't rise higher than 70 degrees but if to leave to the discretion of system that at me already 89 degrees were reached by temperature. On old Bios of 100% of such I didn't observe, there was always temperature about 70-75 maximum Also on your Bios really there is an increase of productivity, to be pleasant to me it, but with temperatures in my opinion something not that. Still found one version of a vbios apparently for 980M it the version is as follows: 84.04.88.00.2E tell please you not from this Bios did the? If it is necessary to you, I can give it for viewing and possible modernization.

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Hello Everyone,

 

I still have my old P170EM but the 79070M died.

 

Which GPU can I use on a P170EM?

 

Is there any bios modification to do? ( I am using the latest prema bios for this laptop).

 

Thank you in advance,

 

Best regards,

 

N3ST

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19 hours ago, N3ST said:

Всем привет,

 

У меня еще есть старый P170EM но 79070M умер.

 

Какой GPU можно использовать на P170EM?

 

Есть ли модификация BIOS сделать? (Я использую последние Према  BIOS Для этого ноутбука).

 

Заранее спасибо,

 

С наилучшими пожеланиями,

 

N3ST

 

On P170EM it is possible to use 7970M, 8970M, 970M, 980M. For 970M and 980M it is necessary to have special Bios which will allow to use these videocards at Prema on how many to me it is known to eat such Bios

 

 

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I have been using Prema's modified bios v01 for my Clevo P150SM-A for sometime now with nor problems.

 

Whilst in the process of upgrading my 880m GPU drivers from 361.75 to 361.91, I also decided to upgrade my laptop BIOS to v02.

 

However since upgrading to PremA v02 I have been experiencing micro-freezes/stuttering within some games i.e. Rainbow six Siege and Arma3, that I did not experience prior to these upgrades.  I rolled-back my GPU driver to 361.75 and it did not fix the problem.

 

Following this discussion in NotebookReview.com:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/p157sm-a-premamod-issues-fps-drops.787166/

 

I've decided to try out slv7's modified NVIDIA vBIOS in combination with Prema v02 P150SM-A.

 

Although the solution wasn't clearly stated in that above thread, I assume the OP received a copy of slv7 vBIOs via PM, and also based on Prema's own post (2nd in the thread).

 

In short, does this cause and subsequent remedy to my current micro-freeze problem sound correct?

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The following are the steps I took in relation to this issue:

 

1) Update P150SM-A Laptop BIOS: Prema v01 to Prema v02
2) Update NVIDIA 880m Driver: 361.75 to 361.91
3) Stutters/freezes in games (i.e. Rainbow Six Siege, ArmA3)
4) Roll-back NVIDIA 880m driver to 361.75
5) Still encountering stuttering in games
6) Update NVIDIA 880m vBIOS to svl7 rev00
7) Still encountering stuttering in games
8) Downgrade P150SM-A Laptop BIOS back to Prema v01
9) No more stuttering in games

In short, I found the only solution was to downgrade back to Prema v01 BIOS for the P150SM-A. I kept the NVIDIA 880m svl7 modified vBIOS though.

I would very much appreciate any clear explanations behind why this stuttering occurs with Prema's v02 BIOS and not v01 in the above scenario, and any subsequent solution.

Many thanks!

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